Eating disorders..

[pisceskitty]

Hello all,

I was wondering if indications of an eating disorder can reveal itslef in a chart. I had anorexia in my early 20's. I have Chiron is Aries in the 6th house. I became a Vegetarian when I was 24. I also love to cleanse my body, with herbal teas..fasting etc..can anyone give me any clues?

Born: March 11th 1973
8:26pm
New york, NY

[Miss Saturn]

Here are some significators of a possible eating disorder from Parker's Astrology

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Looking at your chart PiscesKitty you have Sun Square Saturn (denying Self). You have a Libra Ascendant (focus on appearance). You have an afflicted Moon and Venus. You have Cancer on the M.C and the ruler of the M.C the Moon squares Mercury (this may put an emphasis on the thinking about food analyzing what you have eaten). Also you have Pluto in the twelfth house in Libra can represent deep psychological problems. Twelfth house likes to keep things hidden and Pluto secret, maybe with Pluto in Libra obsession on appearance.

Miss S

[pisceskitty]

Hi,

Oh goodness! thank you so much. Luckily I dealt with it long time ago. I eat healthy now, and becoming a vegetarian is a great help. I focus on eating healthy now. I also work out. I find myself enjoying life alot more lately! Thank you again Miss Saturn!:) Yet that Pluto in the 12th house concerns me. Just reading "deep psychological problems" makes me scared. I did tend to obsess over my weight, and hide it. So I suppose that explains it.

[Miss Saturn]

It's alright, I had a slight eating problem when I was younger. I have Saturn in the 1st house. Saturn oppose Sun. My Saturn is placed in Virgo. Maybe my Venus Square Pluto contributed as well being obsessed with appearance.

Miss S

[pisceskitty]

Miss Saturn,

Wow, you have Venus square Pluto? What is that like? a guy I was seeing had that same aspect. How does it manifest itself? I know...wrong forum!:o

[Frisiangal]

Further to Miss Saturn's list:

8) With anorexia, an afflicted Neptune. Using Placidus, Pisces is on 6th house cusp.

Many years ago I attended a lecture regarding a study of anorexia nervosa. Still got the tape somewhere.
Mum, the afflicted Moon, came off very badly and Venus, love and values, also came into the picture.
In retrospect, do you now know and understand why you became anorexic?Would you be willing to share the experience?

F.

[pisceskitty]

Hi Fris,

I do have Pisces ruling my 6th house. I started obsessing over my weight at around 20yrs old. I remember specifically. I don't know what was going on astrologically at the time. I was looking at some pictures of myself back then:eek: ...at the time I thought I looked cute! I wouldn't eat any solid foods, just protein shakes. I remember feeling very proud of the fact that I had the discipline to starve myself. People also started giving me alot of attention, telling me how tiny my waist was, and It really felt nice at that time. It was all about control. I felt like i wasn't good at anything! I felt as though I had no control. The one thing i could control, was what I ate.

Once I hit 24/25 i began to get into fitness; organic foods, and healthy living. My relationship with food has really changed! I actually take weekend courses at the school of Intergrative Nutrition here in New York! I'm learning about holistic health, herbs..etc...I absolutely love it!

I've turned my past obsession with food into something good! I mentioned in one of the vocational threads that I would love to travel to developing countries and help mothers and babies as far as health/Malnutrition etc...I'm also going to get my RN degree[registered nurse]
I am a certified Home Health Aide, and working with home bound clients who suffer from diabetes, high blood-pressure, and other health problems has deeply healed me. It's funny how life works!

Sorry for the long post!;)

[franklin taylor]

PiscesKitty,
I read your question and I looked at a text that uses a great deal of really famous astrologers texts of the past concerning health. While it says Anorexia is governed by Saturn located on the Axis of Capricorn and Cancer, Saturn being placed in the 4th or 10th houses, or an Aquarian Moon placement, its says eating habits are governed by Mercury. You had a Retrograde Mercury at birth, it squared a luminary (Moon), and its in the 5th which rules all things you do for pleasure which eating has been twisted from something we have to do into some thing for pleasure over time, even moreso with mass media telling us that it is. So what I am thinking (and saying) is with this affliction of Mercury you may have/had anxiety or nervousness (Mercury bad qualities) involving your eating habits in your lifetime. Also the Moon/Mercury square, (your Moon is in a home sign of Mercury so the energies of Mercury are really playing up in your affairs of the fifth house this square also pulls in the moon's emotional component into the fifth house. With the fifth house stellium, the affairs of the fifth house are quite important in your life.
Take Care.
Franklin

[milkywaygirl]

Miss Saturn,

Wow, you have Venus square Pluto? What is that like? a guy I was seeing had that same aspect. How does it manifest itself? I know...wrong forum!:o

hey! miss s yeah i as well would like to hear how this aspect manifests for you. having it as well, it has really been a source of a really crazy intense and at times out of control love life.

i would sum my experience with this aspect as such:
-intense immediate attractions to people who are usually totally unsuitable: wrought with issues, poor, kind of crazy, unavailable in some way
-extremely intense emotions, sometimes feelings of not being able to live without the other person
-when the other person doesnt want to pursue the relationship anymore and is the one to make taht decision, crazy emotions; anger, jealousy, resentment that last for an unneccessarily long time
-when involved in a relationship for a while, the urge to get out because there must be something better and more intense out there
-control/manipulation issues
-when in a relationship, an almost obsession with sex and sexual activity - never able to get enough (*cough*)
-pining for innapropriate people, attempts to manipulate to "catch" that person

i have read that this aspect makes emotional/sexual involvements seem "fated", for me at least i can totally identify. almost all of my significant relationships totally seem that way.

but the biggest constant throughout it all is really powerful, almost overwhelming emotions in most relationships. in the past i have been borderline paralysed by such emotions, and in some cases have acted in ways that i dont feel are becoming or typical of me at all.

some of my friends have suggested to me that perhaps i have low self esteem because i almost always end up going for the wrong people. maybe i do have low self esteem and dont know it, but consciously i feel pretty good about my myself and dont think i have low self esteem. its just that i'll meet someone and get blown away and fall into something right away.. i cant say no because my emotions get so engaged. (i have asc/sun/moon/merc/uranus in water so i'm very emotionally driven... maybe if i was less water i wouldnt be so prone to the effect of this aspect)

anyway this is just how it has affected me. i know a lot of it sounds really terrible, and i have realized that and am trying to work through it. i think i've done a decent job of it as i have been able to overcome a lot of it, but its pretty hard still. at the end of the day though, theres really nothing like that feeling of being so wrapped up with someone so deeply and intensely, its really hard to describe. its not even all pleasurable, its really painful even when its going on, painful and pleasurable at the same time and a little scary as well. to illustrate, i remember times with several different men with whom i was involved, just lying in bed or sitting in a car and crying together because our emotions for one another were so strong. messed up!

i'm kind of trynig to stay away from those kinds of relationships these days and hopefully the next one i have will be balanced and not so intense. unfortunately you never know when you're gonna meet someone and have that crazy feeling!

i'd like to hear from miss s though and anyone else with this aspect! maybe i'm just a psycho!

[Virinchi]

ok..here's what i get thru vedic method
ur ascendent lord mercury is debilated and also your 7th and 4th lord jupiter.

2nd house lord venus is combust and afflicted by strong sun in 6th house, so your eating is irregular/unplannned

@ 20 jupiter's period has started for you which will last till 36.
so this will clean you up making you sensitive, veggie .

after 36 saturn's period will run till 55 and you will be more into this as saturn afflicts venus,sun and moon.

till 36 yu will accumulate unwanted fat but will lose it later

[Howl]

Milkyway :D I take these from your list, as things common to both of our pluto square venuses:

-when the other person doesnt want to pursue the relationship anymore crazy emotions that last for an unneccessarily long time
-when involved in a relationship for a while, the urge to get out because there must be something better and more intense out there
-pining for innapropriate people, attempts to manipulate to "catch" that person

These happen for me at particular intervals, and I always find them to be "out of character", I suprise myself with how I can feel. I tend to purposefully not act on them, and have trouble admitting to feeling this way. I spend time with myself wondering what the hell is going on :) But, I am an air/fire person in general, and both my pluto and venus are in air, so I believe that "moderates" the emotional strength of pluto sqaure venus.

I also add:

-being unable to understand how the other person either:
a) must not feel as much as I am feeling
b) or does not choose to act as I feel like acting, if they do feel the same

Basically, it can confuse the hell out of me WHY I am not getting the response that I sense I should be getting. In truth it's probably because the person concerned is less "pluto-venus" than I am, OR, they are spooked and avoiding the potential of "pluto-venus" IN THEMSELVES, as well as in me.

Ahh pluto venus. Thankfully I can now recognise these feelings, and realise that they come from me, that not everybody has them, and that I have to take care not to 'encourage' them. (ie - somehow stop 'pining' for people - I don't know, call in the mental police, enforce a reality check!!) I'm not sure of my methods, but they seem to be working :)

I'm going to justify posting this here with the admission that I also have suffered a mild eating disorder. It took me ages to admit it to anyone, and I managed to overcome it myself, only speaking about it or even recognising it in retrospect. Mine was connected to body image, and connects with venus/pluto energy. In a way, it was trying to enforce control over my desirability, because being desireable was (at the time) too large a part of what I felt I had to offer.

I am still sad about having felt that way :( I feel like I owe myself an apology

[Miss Saturn]

I have just looked in my astrology keywords book and Uranus is listed for Anorexia, pisceskitty has Uranus in the first House. I have Uranus afflicting my 6th house Mars in Aquarius. I don't really understand why it would be Uranus. Does anyone have any ideas on this, I will have a look into it myself as well.

Miss S

[Virinchi]

its bcoz uranus and debilated mercury as viewing each other directly
uranus -1, mercury - 7

uranus is about causing disturbance in whichever house it is. the intensity of disturbance depends on house owner's strenght

[Miss Saturn]

Here is a case history which possibly explains a little about Uranus being involved. Again this is from Parker's Astrology, I don't have the birth details for the chart, but the aspects are explained, so you will be able to follow it.

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PiscesKitty this chart almost mirrors your chart here are the similarities, Libra Ascendant, Uranus in the first house, Midheaven Cancer, Moon square Mercury, this girls Saturn opposes Moon, your Saturn squares the Sun. Also Pluto in the twelfth house.

Miss S

[milkywaygirl]

I also add:

-being unable to understand how the other person either:
a) must not feel as much as I am feeling
b) or does not choose to act as I feel like acting, if they do feel the same

Basically, it can confuse the hell out of me WHY I am not getting the response that I sense I should be getting. In truth it's probably because the person concerned is less "pluto-venus" than I am, OR, they are spooked and avoiding the potential of "pluto-venus" IN THEMSELVES, as well as in me.



ditto on that! man what an aspect! at least it keeps life interesting eh!

anyway i didnt mean to hijack this thread but it was at the prompting of pisceskitty so i'm blaming her. miss s i'd still love to hear from you about this aspect!!! :D:D:D

i dont have much to contribute to this topic as i love food and although i definitely have really odd eating pattens (i'll eat the same thing for 4-5 days and then switch to something new) and occasionally binge on ice cream and mcdonalds (maybe once a month, more to do with my cycle than anything astrological!), i dont really have any issues about food really, except that i love it all!!!

when i love it too much, i harness my scorpio ascendant power and hit the gym hard!

[Miss Saturn]

To be honest Milkyway I am trying to stay away from the subject. My view is too extreme when it comes to this aspect. We are talking about Pluto here, I have read a couple of books which I think describe this aspect perfectly. The Author of the books is a psychologist, and she goes deep into the psychology of the women who love in this extreme way. She calls this relating an addiction and this is how I see this aspect. Addicted to love.

The last chapter is called Dying for Love and I really connect to what she says. There is a deep depression which is covered up through relating this intensely. She describes these relationships providing a great escape, diversion, and certainly a highly effective mask for depression. It is almost impossible to experiance depression when we are very excited positively or negatively because of the high levels of adrenalin being released and stimulating us. Loving this way is like a disease which gets progressively worse, if the woman denies the problem, covers it up and if she doesn't get help. This addiction and loving too much can kill you.

See I said it was an extreme view, I have only touched on parts of the subject, because the reasons behind our love nature go very deep.

Miss S

[milkywaygirl]

hey miss s no worries! whats the name of this book btw i'd like to check it out.

i wonder what this aspect says about us karmically?

and as an addendum, i just want to say that i think its seriously freaky that you and i have run into one another on an astrology messageboard, i think about the freakishness of it every time i respond to and read your posts. everything you write i identify with, and although i see the many differences as well, the similarities are a lot! its like you are me and i am you but from another dimension!

[Miss Saturn]

The book is called Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood. It's funny talking to each other knowing we have the same aspects, but in different houses. You must be the more intense version of me with your Scorpio Ascendant. Maybe I am more serious with my Saturn in the first.

It is strange because if I read your posts I will think were different in many ways yet also the same. I always think of my aspects as personal to me but I guess all the people born on that day share our aspects, but in different houses. I remember a boy at school who I hated he was nasty, cruel seemed full of himself. I was mortified he had the same birthday as me. I guess we still have an individual soul. Why were we so different, must be were the planets have fallen and different Ascendant possibly.

Karmically with Venus Square Pluto, we have have to fill ourselves up with love, and not look for it outside ourselves.

Miss S

[pisceskitty]

Well, as far as accumilating fat, that hasn't happened! thank god. I'm pretty lean. I've never been fat, that's the funny thing. At this stage in my life, I've made peace with my body. I take care of it, and nurture it. I realize it's not the way it looks, it's the way it feels.:)

[pisceskitty]

Miss S.

WOW thank you as always for the valuable information. The part about fashion really hit home! I went to a fashion design High-school! and i recieved my B.A. in Interior design while in college! I never met my father, so maybe this has something to do with it? To be honest I don't think about him much. I think more about my mom.

[23]

I am very naughty and haven't read anyone else's posts in great depth but my take on your anorexia is as follows.

Anorexia and other eating disorders are about:
1. Perfectionism;
2. Wrong body image and wrong thinking;
3. Control of oneself.

I think its probably not of benefit to have a Pisc mercury but I see libran pluto in the 12th - secrets and possessive control of mind in the matters of beauty (body image). 12th house cusp is also in virgo, which adds this perfectionistic pursuit. I am sure you lib ascendant has something to do with it as well. Plus mercury sq moon must have some emotional impact on your mind and its conj with sun - fusion of thought and person/being ego. Plus saturn (taskmaster) in taur (beauty) must have something to do with it.

Hope that helps. I'm only a novice.

[pisceskitty]

My Saturn in actually in Gemini in the 8th house. Your post is very informative! don't worry 23..being "naughty" is good sometimes!

[23]

oops sorry :( I'm rather embarrassed. To reinterpret, 8th house's cusp is on tau (beauty) - deeper mysteries of life/obssession to you maybe is to achieve beauty (through anorexia) and saturn being in the 8th adds the taskmaster element to it, yourself.

[pisceskitty]

:) Aww..no 23 don't be ashamed! your doing a wonderful job! keep up the good work!;)

[23]

Another thing that dropped when I logged off was that the 8th house (which in your case has Saturn) and 12th house (which has pluto) and 11th house is of importance.

They say that Anorexia for some has a religious/spiritual feeling in the sense that secret societies are created by sufferers and these sufferers end up inciting each other to starve themselves more all in the quest to achieve their goals of starvation. It becomes their mantra.

Just wondering if you when you were anorexic dealt with other sufferers, since you have 11th house cusp on virgo?

[pisceskitty]

:eek:

No I never really talked about it to anyone. I pretty much kept it to myself. The one thing I do notice about myself, is this strong need to heal/help other people. This is why I study nutrition. I feel like I need to redeem myself for past actions.

[cara4art]

Lots of people have commented along the way in my life about what they think is extremely disciplined eating - in the meantime I am not as strict as some people I have seen(VERY few, in our culture). Since the age of 26, following a short bout with mononucleosis, I got onto the path of natural health and fitness, and been so ever since(I am now 59, and am about to step up and refine things even further). Natally I have Saturn(6 Leo), Pluto(11 Leo), and the Moon(15 Leo) all conjunct in the 6th house, and Jupiter Rx(18 Scorpio, 8th house) squaring my Pluto-Moon conjunction there. That Jupiter Rx opposes my Mars(23 Taurus, end of 2nd house). My natal Saturn is quincunx my Ascendant(5 Pisces).
Unlike many middle-aged folks with a Pisces Ascendant, I am not overweight at all, and except for a 3-year period(stress-full, sedentary job with no exercise, or attention to diet at that time) in my early to mid-20's, have been on the slim side. I am very health-conscious with my food choices, and as mentioned above, many people find this to be excessively abstemious - they often say - "Oh, you don't need to be so disciplined/and or work out - you're slim!" Well, that's how I STAY slim, and personally I have benefited from a largely vegetarian diet with small amounts of lighter animal protein(no red meats of any sort here, or much dairy either)and little in the way of refined flour products. Also, I am highly sensitive to poor quality/overly rich/spoiled food - what others can eat with impunity can often make me ill - been that way since childhood. I don't drink or smoke either, and don't eat refined sugary things either, save for a little 70% dark chocolate(that's my only sweet). Other desserts are not part of my life. Even my husband comments on my discipline and discrimination about food!
I have also benefited greatly from the use of alternative medicine
I did get down to a very low weight in the couple of years following my mother's death in 1978, but put on a few beneficial solid muscular pounds due to training in the years following. I have not gained any appreciable weight following menopause either, due to good health habits.
Anyway, here's my birthdata if anyone want to comment on the above:
6/21/1947 11:51PM Providence, RI USA

[Miss Saturn]

PiscesKitty,

I was just reading through this thread and I missed the part were you said you were worried about your Pluto in the twelfth house meaning "deep psychological problems". Sorry didn't mean to scare you. This was just what I had read on the placement. Everyone will have difficult placings in their chart. I have read many terrible things about my Mercury square Neptune aspect, but it doesn't really worry me, I am trying to ground my mind and bring in more focus, I am trying to use my aspects more positively I try not to dwell in the negative too much.

This sounds terrible but I love charts with really interesting aspects and placements, it makes for a very interesting person to me. My Partner he has his Moon in the Twelfth house, I know his problems, I know what is behind his Twelfth house Moon. With his past and childhood, he has had a lot to overcome. I love everything about him and yes he was emotionally wounded from childhood (Moon in Twelfth house) but I love him all the more because he is facing his pain and is a very loving kind person and he treats me lovely. My son has Mercury in the twelfth house but as you know I am not going to read his chart (being an overly worried mother). I am sure whatever problems my son has to overcome in this lifetime, he will do with courage, like his father.

Here is something I read from Parker's Astrology


I hope you don't worry about your placements in your chart, here is a little more information on this placing in your chart.

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Hope this helps to ease your mind.

Miss S

[pisceskitty]

Miss S,

Aww thank you so, so much. I tend to worry about that 12th house alot! when i looked at my solar return for 2007/2008 it had the Moon/Jupiter/Pluto sittin' right in there! But they are all making positive aspects to Venus. The Moon in the Ruler of the 7th. I sit and look at the 12th house like-:eek: LoL
I tend to worry alot! I'm very much a worry wart! I'm dealing with alot of past issues. It's been a painful/scary journey, but i'm getting there. I'm a tough cookie;)

[Shining Ray]

Uranus and it's relation to eating disorders - Uranus can disassociate on a physical level. Detachment can present itself as body dysmorphia, a distorted sense of body image, which in itself can result in disease, such as anorexia or bulimia, which are commonly regarded as an attempt at control, but at the root are a bid for freedom - from physical life itself. Dissociation is behind many if not all physical and psychological problems.

Shining Ray

[Nackie]

What an interesting thread, and like you Pisces Kitty, I have Pluto in Libra in the 12th, libra Asc. and chiron in aries in the 6th.

I've been bulimic for over 15 years now, although I have had it pretty much under control the last 5 years, with some highs and lows. I have a lot of the afore mentioned characteristics, libra asc and taurus moon (7th) and venus conjunct the MC, squaring both AC, DC and Moon. Saturn in cancer, cancer intercepted in the 9th.

I think the jupiter in the 6th points more towards bulimia than anorexia, a marker for impulse control and "expansion", i.e. eating lots of food. Jupiter squares saturn, saturn being also my only water planet.

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Nackie

[pisceskitty]

Hi Nackie!

It took alot of guts for me to even start this thread. There is a lot of shame when one has an eating disorder[at leats for me it is]becoming a vegetarian has really helped me alot. I'm actually eating something, and it's healthy too! it makes me feel at ease that the foods I eat are healthy. There's not all of this guilt invloved.

I do have my moments. Especially if I'm stressed about something, my first instinct is to NOT eat anything.When I was at my worse, starving myself felt good. I almost felt "proud" of myself. It was the one thing I could actually stick to![I loose interest reall quick!] I keep a journal, and I'm learning to not be so hard on myself. But the funny thing is-i looove to cook for, and feed other people. I've always loved cooking. Weird huh?:rolleyes:

[pixie1982]

Hi,

Sorry to those who wanted to stay away from that aspect but I wanted to agree with much that was said about the pluto sq venus aspect and to say that I think that it may be linked to eating disorders - because of the obsessive quality it gives people.

For example when a relationship breaks down turning this obsession towards food and controlling it so you become obsessive about dieting instead?

I have this aspect (and my venus also squares mars, jupiter and saturn i think) and I have struggled with eating disorders in the past and probably always will to an extent. I think I also loved the attention and something to become fixated on instead of relationships. I also think that the aspect may be linked to depression/ seeking destructive, controlling people or being one yourself?

I also think that this is a very interesting topic. I do think that eating disorders are linked to low self-esteem so maybe having aspects which cause this makes people susceptible to eating disorders?

[Francesca]

MilkyWayGirl, what shape is your Neptune in? Also, are there afflictions to Venus or moon other tatn mentioned? It's the "unsuitability,unavailable" aspect I am questioning. Thanks

[Shining Ray]

Here is the chart of Karen Carpenter which show the significators for Anorexia which were listed.

Karen Carpenter:

Birth Chart:

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The day she died:

On the evening of February 3rd, 1983, Karen spent the night in her parents house, in her old bedroom on the second floor of her parents home . Sometime the next morning, Karen got up, and donned a red jogging suit with a vial of Ativan in the pocket. She went down to the kitchen around quarter to 9 in the morning. At 8:50, her mother entered the kitchen, and found Karen unconscious on the floor. Paramedics were called, took her in an ambulance, tried CPR and the lot, and got her to the Downey Community Hospital where she was finally pronounced dead at 9:51am. Cardiac arrest. She was only 32, and weighed 108 pounds. If anyone has been living in a hole for the last 20 years, Karen suffered from Anorexia Nervosa, the eating disorder. It had finally taken its toll. Just when Karen was supposedly recovering, the toll on her heart was too much.


Here are the significators I posted for Anorexia from Parkers Astrology.

1. A powerful Saturn receiving negative aspects from the Sun, Moon or Ascendant - but note that these could denote a variety of ailments.

2. Indications of undue preoccupation with food and diet - look to aspects between the Moon, Venus and Jupiter, especially when a personal planet is in Taurus, Virgo or Libra is afflicted by Saturn.

3. Taurus, Virgo, or Libra emphasised by the Sun, Moon, or Ascendant.

4. A second or sixth house emphasis (by a personal or ruling planet).

5. An afflicted Moon or Venus - especially if either planet is in the sixth House.

6. An emphasis on Cancer-the sign of nourishment by the Sun, Moon, or Ascendant.

7. A heavily aspected Pluto in the health houses i.e the first, sixth or psychological health house, the twelfth.

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[Shining Ray]

Karen's Moon is also her chart ruler (physical body) Conjunct Pluto such a transforming of appearance. Emotionally she may find it hard to let her feelings show and plus the secrecy you have to keep with this illness about what food you are eating. The Mercury opposes Pluto too so possibly this all represents secrets/obsessions around food/her emotions. Jupiter aspects all this energy, and multiplies it. And Jupiter rules her sixth house of health so the obsessive dieting went too far.

The Sun/Saturn for restriction and Saturn is in Virgo/4th and I have read where Saturn is placed there can be an overcompensating expression of the energy, the place where our fears and insecurities lie. So because of our feeling of lack (in the sign/house where Saturn is Placed) we try to overcompensate.

Virgo is the perfectionist sign and so maybe she felt pressure within the family to be perfect at the deepest core of her being (4th house) Maybe she felt less than perfect and this depressed her and so she was driven to achieve perfection. Saturn rules the 8th house of death, and her eating disorder and this need for perfection is what lead to her death which caused heart/failure Sun/Saturn she never nourished her body (Saturn has lessons to learn around looking after your health well being, but without going to the extreme.) She has a sensitive Sun in Pisces and so when a journalist commented about her weight when she was a young girl she was really sensitive to this criticism and this started her off on her eating disorder.

Uranus has also been linked to Anorexia and Karen has this in her 1st house (physical body) a detachment at a physical level from her body. A distorted body image she still believed she was fat even though she was like a walking skeleton. In my Astrology book it says that disassociation is behind many, if not all psychological problems I think Karen needed to learn to reconnect to her physical body (Uranus 1st).

Looking at her Nodes, Uranus in 1st Cancer is square her Nodes on the Aries/Libra and 10th/4th axis with Mars in fall in Libra 4th conjunct SN. Mybe this is also significant in her chart.

[Mere]

Hi everyone. I have had OCD-like tendencies, periods of depression and anxiety, and disordered eating patterns since I was maybe about 12, however, in the past year these tendencies have spun more and more out of control and I have finally reached out for help. While I have not recieved an official diagnosis, my symptoms including periods of self starvation and over exercising followed by episodes of binge eating and purging, basically needing to feel "in control".



I've been interested in to see what kind of aspects in my natal chart have influenced these tendencies in the first place (I guess it's my scorpio rising always trying to get to the bottom of things), and have found a few aspects of particular interest in which I have listed below:

Sun oppose ascendant
Moon oppose Uranus
Moon oppose Neptune
Moon trine Pluto
Moon conjunct Chiron
Mercury Square Saturn
Venus oppose Neptune
Jupiter oppose Saturn
Pluto in the 12th house, heavily aspected
A stellium in Cancer in the 8th house

Of course, there may be more(or less) and the ones I have listed may not have anything to with the disorder. If you like to take a look at my natal chart, in which I have listed below.

http://interactive.0800-horoscope.com/cgi-bin/graphic/daisy13?x=720name=Mere&firstname=&birthplace=Washington,%20DC&lang=en&sex=f&dformat=0&date=5/17/1991&time=20:0&country=1&state=11&adjust=4.00&long=77.02&lat=38.53

So what do you all think? Are my interpretations correct or far off? I look forward to reading your response. Please feel free to PM if there are more details that I should supply.

Thanks

[Claire19]

[QUOTE=Miss Saturn;16673]Here are some significators of a possible eating disorder from Parker's Astrology

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Looking at your chart PiscesKitty you have Sun Square Saturn (denying Self). You have a Libra Ascendant (focus on appearance). You have an afflicted Moon and Venus. You have Cancer on the M.C and the ruler of the M.C the Moon squares Mercury (this may put an emphasis on the thinking about food analyzing what you have eaten). Also you have Pluto in the twelfth house in Libra can represent deep psychological problems. Twelfth house likes to keep things hidden and Pluto secret, maybe with Pluto in Libra obsession on appearance.

Miss S[/

Very good comment.. Sometimes abuse is the at the root and often sexual.. Saturn rules the 4th of nurturance if Cancer is on the MC.
square to the Sun can mean harsh and unloving influences with parents.

[Claire19]

What an interesting thread, and like you Pisces Kitty, I have Pluto in Libra in the 12th, libra Asc. and chiron in aries in the 6th.

I've been bulimic for over 15 years now, although I have had it pretty much under control the last 5 years, with some highs and lows. I have a lot of the afore mentioned characteristics, libra asc and taurus moon (7th) and venus conjunct the MC, squaring both AC, DC and Moon. Saturn in cancer, cancer intercepted in the 9th.

I think the jupiter in the 6th points more towards bulimia than anorexia, a marker for impulse control and "expansion", i.e. eating lots of food. Jupiter squares saturn, saturn being also my only water planet.

http://f7.yahoofs.com/users/B0TqU8cgsFpf/__sr_/ff97.jpg?tkn=phc9ZGFBKFMh0G0_&saveas=chart1

Nackie
Valid analysis for sure. I would concentrate on effects on the 1st, 4th and 6th houses though...I think the Moon afflicted definitely is the hallmark for all eating disorders. I have an afflicted Taurus Moon and comfort eat. Jupiter expands and exaggerates whatever it touches.

especially sweets...

[Frisiangal]

Hello Mere,
I think your 'self analysis' of the astrological symbolism correlating to your
eating problem is spot on. Hopefully, by understanding what the symbolism is explaining in terms of character and circumstances, you can get a grip on controlling it in a positive manner.

It's a pity that you did not include a chart with house cusps, which could provide more information, depending upon which house system is preferred.

[retinoid]

I use whole house...the biggest thing I could see was Pluto in the first with a bad aspect to the planets in the sixth house. Pluto wants to transform the way you appear to the world, and the planets in the sixth making a bad aspect could be saying that it will use your health in a negative way. I wouldn't have guessed anorexia, but I could see how health is not being used well with this transformative process.

[Mere]

Hello Mere,
I think your 'self analysis' of the astrological symbolism correlating to your
eating problem is spot on. Hopefully, by understanding what the symbolism is explaining in terms of character and circumstances, you can get a grip on controlling it in a positive manner.

It's a pity that you did not include a chart with house cusps, which could provide more information, depending upon which house system is preferred.


Oh I am so sorry. Here is a much better chart. Let me know if you have any problem accessing it.
http://s1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg492/Mere9991/?action=view&current=astro_w2gw_09_mere_hp8264943922.gif

[Nackie]

Wow, fun to reopen this old thread! Haven't been here in ages! This topic is still close to my heart, though. There are so many commonalities that there must be something to it.

@Claire19 what should I be looking at in the 1st, 4th and 6th houses? Here is my chart:
http://smartstyler.de/pics/horoscope.gif

[Nackie]

@Mere weird, I feel like your chart is kind of like a mirror image of mine!

[Mere]

@Mere weird, I feel like your chart is kind of like a mirror image of mine!


I thought the same thing of your chart as well. Its almost scary how many coincidences there are between our charts.

[Carmen C]

Just comment some coincidences, I have too Ascendant in Libra with Uranus in 1rst House, Saturn in Gemini in the 8th House, Pluto in the 12th, Chiron in the 6th in Aries :lol:
well, and yes I had a type of eating disorder, for many years I ate too much chocolate but was lucky with my weight. Only in 2008 I suddenly changed to organic vegetarian and a year later veganism because as mother I was much more concerned about health.
Congratulations for your sucess!

[Blackempress]

I'm not sure of the associated angles/planets etc, but once I came across my own interpretation regarding Neptune contacts as to having weight issues. I do have those & 10 years ago turned into a superb anorexic until my body began giving up on me by creating other medical conditions such as hypothyroidism & Diabetes insipidus etc. I just HAD to get back to my normal life but struggled with Bulimia & compulsive eating disorder too after that.

To date, I have alot of weight issues & unbalanced eating habits/lifestyle. Weight has always been a BIG BAD ISSUE for me. :pouty:

[Claire19]

Your 6th of diet and health is ruled by the Sun and square the Moon, also with Neptune ruling again square the Moon these would be indicators. HOwever predominant air often offsets the weight gains. Sometimes sugar is the culprit with so much Libra and I speak from experience. That you have blood sugar issues is not a surprise as I do too. I am not diabetic as it is not in my family but I have to watch it and I think I was hyperglycaemic in my younger days but low GI foods counter that. I find that to have smaller meals and more regular through the day helps a lot. Keeps the metabolism revving and when we starve it goes into famine mode and stores fat, after a while, so dieting is counter productive. WIth regular exercise we can keep it down as well. But hereditary factors do play a part for sure.

[Blackempress]

Your 6th of diet and health is ruled by the Sun and square the Moon, also with Neptune ruling again square the Moon these would be indicators. HOwever predominant air often offsets the weight gains. Sometimes sugar is the culprit with so much Libra and I speak from experience. That you have blood sugar issues is not a surprise as I do too. I am not diabetic as it is not in my family but I have to watch it and I think I was hyperglycaemic in my younger days but low GI foods counter that. I find that to have smaller meals and more regular through the day helps a lot. Keeps the metabolism revving and when we starve it goes into famine mode and stores fat, after a while, so dieting is counter productive. WIth regular exercise we can keep it down as well. But hereditary factors do play a part for sure.

Hit the nail on the head. Impressive indeed regarding Libran Sugar... I currently don't have Diabetes but it does run in my family which makes me very prone as well. I probably rank a very high GI too.. better get my diet straight before I end up doing it the hard way. Thanks!

[Mere]

Well, I am finally seeing a counselor who is helping me work through my binging/purging tendencies and the root of them. She said that because I label things (food in particular) "good" or "bad" and I put a strong restriction on them (maybe becaus of a strong Scorpio ascendant and having a strong pluto in the 12th house)? Also, my counselor and I are beginning to think that one of the triggers for the out of control eating patterns that I am experiencing have to relate to a horrible break up that I went through two summers ago when a lunar eclipse conjucted my natal moon and Venus and was opposition my natal Neptune.

[Tham]

Astrology of anorexia.


http://oxford-astrologer.blogspot.com/2011/07/astrology-of-anorexia.html

http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/astrology-of-anorexia-destiny-deprivation-and/

http://astrologybykingsley.com/2008/01/13/eating-disorder/

http://www.jupitersweb.com/anorexia-nervosa.html