Sun, moon and mercury in same sign

[Centaur]

How common is that? And how would you generally interpret such a cluster? Of course it depends on the sign they're in and so on, but generally speaking. :)

[Vagabondgirl]

My best friend has this cluster in one sign: sun, moon, mercury I think. I think its more common to have mercury conjunct sun, or Ive seen it in many charts at least.

Myself I have Mars, Venus and Moon in Virgo. Ive always been in the health business and only studied health related subjects. I feel that nothing else gives meaning to me than working with health (virgo trait?). I think the sign is intensified in your personality then, especially with sun, moon, ascendent.

Your energy is centered in one sign I mean. Easier to interpret perhaps?

[astrologer50]

How common is that? And how would you generally interpret such a cluster? Of course it depends on the sign they're in and so on, but generally speaking. :)

Actually, it's quite common, venus can never be more than one sign away from sun either side and mercury cannot be more than two signs away. If the planets are conj then this is called a stellium, which when one planets is aspected by a transit solar arc or progression the other planets are drawn into the equation and activated as well.

[Vista]

My ex boyfriend had Sun, Mercury, Venus, Nepture conjunct in the 12th house!
He also has Mars, Uranus, and Pluto conjunct in Virgo as well. Can you say intense??

[Centaur]

Thanks for your replies.:)
That's good to know, someone who looked at my chart once went all wide eyed over my sun/moon/mercury all positioned in one sign. Like as if it were something weird. Mercury is conjunct moon, but sun is 7 degress from moon.

Myself I've never seen it with anyone else, but I'm just an amateur and haven't done many charts so I haven't got much
to compare it to.

Vista; wow that does sound intense!

[Ebenia]

I have seen this few times on charts of people, who have been raised by single mom/father. When Sun and Moon are conjunct, one parent kind of takes on the both roles of mum+dad in one's life.

[Vagabondgirl]

I was raised by only my dad. But moon is 29 degrees virgo and sun 19 libra....Almost in the same sign, but not quite.

My best friend has moon conjunct sun at 1 degree orb in aquarius, and she is extremely aquarian + some gemini from her AC.

My sister in law also has many planets in libra, both moon, sun, jupiter and saturn if not more.... She acts like a typical libra!

[dhundhun]

How common is that? And how would you generally interpret such a cluster? Of course it depends on the sign they're in and so on, but generally speaking. :)

About three percentage of population has this combination. A lot depends on order of planets, level of combustion, New Moon, Solar Eclipse, Casimi, etc.

Basically, that sign is likely to be too personal sign, desires, emotions and thinking aligned in same direction.

[Centaur]

I was raised by both parents. But then my sun and moon are 7 degrees apart.

Here is my chart: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/xxwitchxx/b29ca972.gif

[gaer]

There are 144 Sun/Moon combinations. 12 of them are Sun/Moon in the same sign.

So on average expect one out of 12 people to have the Sun and Moon in the same sign. Since Mercury can always be in three signs relative to the Sun, figure about one person in 36 will have Sun/Moon/Mercury in the same sign. That's only a VERY rough approximation. :)

[astrologer50]

I have seen this few times on charts of people, who have been raised by single mom/father. When Sun and Moon are conjunct, one parent kind of takes on the both roles of mum+dad in one's life.

It's too easy to typecaste an aspect by suggesting sun/moon takes this role. My sun/moon are conj and my parents were married over 40years. 3planets or stellium in any sign suggests a concentrated element of that sign and energy expressions -- emotions are communicated with ease and comfort (depending on aspects) sun mercury - signing off the same hymn sheet :wink:

[gaer]

My Sun/Moon are conjunct, thought the aspect is separating and about 7 degrees. My parents were together and happy together for nearly 50 years, until my father died at nearly 90 years of age.

[Kukka]

Mom's :sun::venus::jupiter::mercury::mars::pluto: are in Leo; she's not a typical Leo (not moon).

All those planets are :square: saturn, the planets mixing up each other also changes the interpretation.

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Actually, it's quite common, venus can never be more than one sign away from sun either side and mercury cannot be more than two signs away.I believe you mean it the other way 'round. Venus can't be more than 47 degrees away from the Sun, and Mercury no more than 28.

[tanamarios]

How common is that? And how would you generally interpret such a cluster? Of course it depends on the sign they're in and so on, but generally speaking. :)

that means at least that the native's ego , emotions and communicates are very attuned and focused. It's likely that the native was born near New Moon , so any NewMoon/Full Moon will be more sensitively felt. A note: is possibly that the native's part of fortune would be close to the ASC.

[Arian Maverick]

I have a similar concentration of planets in my natal chart--Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus in my first house in Aries. According to my birth certificate, I have an Aries Ascendant, as well.

Don't concern yourself with how "rare" any configuration is, because "rare" does not mean "better" or "more special." We are each born at that moment when the planets are in exact alignment with our personal karma.

As for the Sun and the Moon occupying the same sign, this means that you were born during the Balsamic Moon phase (if the Moon is behind the Sun) or the New Moon phase (if the Moon is ahead of the Sun). This difference is very important, for two individuals with the same Sun/Moon sign may manifest this energy differently if they were born during different Moon phases.

All those planets are :square: saturn, the planets mixing up each other also changes the interpretation.

I agree with this statement entirely. Although I possess many typical Aries traits, I manifest them differently than individuals whose stelliums are not afflicted by difficult Saturn/Neptune aspects.

About three percentage of population has this combination. A lot depends on order of planets, level of combustion, New Moon, Solar Eclipse, Casimi, etc.

This is also a very good point, for I have read that the planet that's furthest ahead in a stellium is the "guide" planet, exerting more influence over the others. I wish I could find the link.

How far apart are these planets in your natal chart? Again, I imagine this makes a difference. There is some controversy about the "desirability," for lack of a better term, of combust planets. Many astrologers say it is better to have Mercury, for example, farther away from the Sun because this allows the native to have greater distance from his thoughts; thus, he is more receptive to the ideas of others. However, if the two planets are within orb of a conjunction, I think it is better if they are extremely close than somewhat far away because there's more distortion. Think of playing two notes on a piano, separated by a half-step or a whole-step. There's much dissonance there, and the sound is not pleasant, but when the notes become close enough to become one tone, it is pleasant.

So there are a lot of factors to cosider.

Arian Maverick

[Ataraxy]

How common is that? And how would you generally interpret such a cluster? Of course it depends on the sign they're in and so on, but generally speaking. :)When you have that kind of cluster of fast planets in the same sign it highly amplifies the influence of the sign. That kind of cluster is a powerful amplifier for anything it could be in contact with.
If there is a conjunction between those planets, the influence of any other planet aspecting that conjunction will be greatly amplified.

[Kukka]

My aunt is :sun::conjunct::moon:, and :mercury: in aquarius, she doesn't come across as very aquarian. Her's are square saturn. Also venus :capricorn:.

The fixed quality is there.

Personally I don't know cases where the cluster of planets in one sign would in itself stand out too much.

[Arian Maverick]

Personally I don't know cases where the cluster of planets in one sign would in itself stand out too much.

Truly? I've repeatedly observed typical sign characteristics in those who possess significant stelliums--including in myself. It's usually quite obvious to me if an individual has a stellium of personal planets in a particular sign. For example, I knew that my music student had the Sun and Mercury in Aries even before I learned her birthday! She may have Venus in Aries, as well, depending upon her time of birth. Saturn is in Aries, too.

Arian Maverick

[kbell]

I have a friend with all personal planets in Aries. Everything about him is so Aries. I have sun mercury Venus in Capricorn and it def shows for me as well.

[Ataraxy]

My aunt is :sun::conjunct::moon:, and :mercury: in aquarius, she doesn't come across as very aquarian. Her's are square saturn.If there's a square with Saturn, then Saturn may hold a major influence in her chart. She might be a saturnian Aquarius.

[Arian Maverick]

If there's a square with Saturn, then Saturn may hold a major influence in her chart. She might be a saturnian Aquarius.

Isn't that a bit redundant, since Saturn is the ancient ruler of Aquarius? :unsure:

I'd also like to add a quote from Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey that emphasizes the Saturnian quality of most Aquarians, although I'll probably have a flurry of Aquarians disagree with her:

"Only those who have an angular Uranus (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th houses) or have Uranus configurated with the Sun, Moon or Mercury are true Uranians. Most Aquarians are more Saturnian than Uranian and this will puzzle you unless you understand that the New Age egos will have Uranus, not Aquarius, prominently located." (Page 36)

Arian Maverick

[Kukka]

All I know she (aunt) feels more capricorn/cancer. The aquarius is there but it's not that clear. And I've come to realise that that the interpretation is not that obvious, because I learn by experience.

[Ataraxy]

Isn't that a bit redundant, since Saturn is the ancient ruler of Aquarius? :unsure:It is. I've meant people often imagine Aquarius in its uranian version... They depict Aquarians as restless reckless rebels, unrestrained, unwilling to accept any norms, or loud activists for freedom. Actually few of Aquarians match those descriptions. Few of them look like that uranian Prometheus depicted in books. Most of them are rather interested in a quest for serenity, for a sort of wisdom, they rather turn to inner life, they are not concernd with what is material, worldly, prosaic, they are concentrated on a spiritual growth. I think that saturnian version is more widespread among Aquarians and I agree with Hickey

[astrologer50]

My aunt is :sun::conjunct::moon:, and :mercury: in aquarius, she doesn't come across as very aquarian. Her's are square saturn. Also venus :capricorn:.

The fixed quality is there.

Personally I don't know cases where the cluster of planets in one sign would in itself stand out too much.
When a sun sign is conjunct (or hard aspect to) a heavyweight planet from Saturn onwards, ie: Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, that sun person automatically becomes and honorary Saturian, Uranian, Neptunian and Plutonian cos the contact with very strong
AM said,
I'd also like to add a quote from Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey that emphasizes the Saturnian quality of most Aquarians, although I'll probably have a flurry of Aquarians disagree with her:

"Only those who have an angular Uranus (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th houses) or have Uranus configurated with the Sun, Moon or Mercury are true Uranians. Most Aquarians are more Saturnian than Uranian and this will puzzle you unless you understand that the New Age egos will have Uranus, not Aquarius, prominently located." (Page 36)

totally agree, Aquarius Asc Uranus 7th square/con sun/moon midpoint in taurus --- I can be bit of rebel :love: :tongue: :biggrin: :w00t:

[neptunian]

Another example is my chart.. I have sun conjunction moon in leo (12th house) and mars conjunction mercury in leo ( 1st house).. my ascendant is leo.. also south node is in leo ( conjuncts with mars and mercury)..