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03-18-2010, 08:00 PM
I'm working on a horoscope but unfortunately the person has an unknown birthtime. I thought there might be people here who are good at seeing others asc? I do have an idea of what her asc might be, but I don't want to get it wrong. So any help would be much appreciated! :biggrin:
Here are the facts:
Born March 5 1948, London
Planetary positions planet sign degree
motion Sun Pisces 14°58'50
direct Moon Capricorn 17°46'46
direct Mercury Aquarius 21°41'25
direct Venus Aries 26°57'16
direct Mars Leo 21°44'32
retrograde Jupiter Sagittarius 26°27'43
direct Saturn Leo 17°17'15
retrograde Uranus Gemini 22°07'18
stationary (D) Neptune Libra 12°19'51
retrograde Pluto Leo 13°04'55
retrograde True Node Taurus 16°19'25
She is very short, blue eyes, dark blonde hair (though mostly bleached to a light blonde)
03-18-2010, 08:51 PM
Thanks for your reply. :) Could you say why you think of an earthsign asc?
03-19-2010, 12:19 AM
Without any idea of 'time' it's very very hard to correct a chart and I don't believe that looking at a picture will be successful. If a planet is conj Asc then it will dramatically alter the 'presentation' of physical body traits....
solar arcs are mainly used to rectify a time or 'fine tune' a chart. You need to start from childhood and put times, dates of relocations, deaths, illnesses, family history etc etc.
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almighty explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....
Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm (http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm )
03-19-2010, 12:26 AM
we are all visual people here and need to see charts, you can post a 12noon or 6am chart
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03-19-2010, 12:38 AM
Whatever her ASC is, it's letting her express her Psices Sun energy very freely. That much you can bank on. I would first say an early degree Pisces ASC with Sun in 1st, myself. Or a Taurus ASC sextiling her Pisces Sun as my second guess.
I definitely would not go with Virgo rising--that's my rising sign, and even with harmonious ASC-Sun aspects, we Virgo risings just aren't that "sunny" when we smile.
I might be tempted to suggest she's a Leo rising. It could be the "sunniness" I see in her is really her Leo Mars in aspect to her ASC, livening up her Piscean face with Leonine light. The big "but" to that is how close her Saturn is to her Mars and so if her ASC was in aspect to her Mars, it would be in aspect to her Saturn too, and I do not see that Saturn sobering influence there at all.
03-19-2010, 09:37 AM
Thanks for all your replies. :) I know it's difficult to tell, unfortunately it seems that the UK didn't have a policy of recording birth times for some reason.
Here is her chart with unknown birth time:
My own personal guess from both looks and ways would be a leo rising. That also makes the house placements and planets in houses make sense. She's an actress (theatre).
03-19-2010, 03:31 PM
I noticed the chart has disappeared, here it is again: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/xxwitchxx/fe621025.gif
Haizea; there are almost 30 years between the two pictures.
I started on a rectification, but then read somewhere that it was rarely accurate so I didn't do it anyway. But maybe I should give it another go?
I feel that there is something very sunny and warm about her, which overshines the more timid sensitive pisces sun and with her large eyes and thick hair I thought of Leo.
Maybe it's easier to use the elimination method and decide which rising signs she definetely could not be?
03-19-2010, 04:51 PM
Yes Taurus is the other alternative I'm toying with. The Leo vibe could be from her Mars...
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