The truth about him.

[Carole]

Hello everyone! I am new here and new to Horary Astrology. Can someone give me some help?

I am pretty confused at the moment. I really need to know if this person is telling me the truth.

I will deeply appreciate any help to clear my doubts.:o

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=432150&nho2=432150&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&fix=1&sday=21&smon=7&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=mfafileLjKp4W-u1153458453&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=

[Wave]

Hi Carolle,

from a brief look at the chart:

Saturn (the ruler of 7th house = him) is in your 1st house, he is interested in you.

Capricorn (the star sign of this chart's 7th house) receives Moon (the ruler of the 1st house in Cancer = you), also a good sign.

A good aspect between Moon and Saturn will tell us more, there is an inconjunct applying aspect between Moon and Saturn, I am not sure about the interpretation of it though.

So I would say that there is a chance he is sincere but my advice is wait for some more professional reply than mine, maybe there are some other aspects one has to consider in your horary chart.

Wave.

[Summery Joy]

Actually, I believe that Saturn is the significator of your husband. The cyber guy is a relationship on the side, and thus ruled by the 5th house. His significator is Mars.

Mars receives your significator, the Moon, by exaltation. Yes, he likes you a lot. Maybe even loves you. Your significator is in detriment in such reception though, so the relationship is not good for you. While his significator is succeedant, yours is cadent. He's getting out of this relationship more than you do. His significator in the radix 2nd may show his interest in stability, i.e. he doesn't want anything in his life to change.

The inconjunct, although I dislike using minor aspects in horary, decribes your relationship with your husband. It's between a trine and an opposition, so it's sort of bumpy. But because of the lack of stability in the smooth energy, it's generally stressful. Your husband's significator receives you by sign; he loves you more than the other guy loves you. It's likely that he is very contracted in showing his emotions though (Saturnian) acting as though what matters most is work or material stability or whatever. It's also likely that both of you feel guilty in your marriage.

Here's my 2 cents worth. The cyber guy does have genuine feelings for you, but only withing the current status context. He's not willing to change his life for you. You're probably just a get away from the stresses of life and he wants to keep you that way. But, in my opinion, you may still have a shot and at making your marriage work better than it does now.

I hope I've helped.

[Carole]

Thank you, Wave....I appreciate your comments a lot. Yes, it's what I understood when I first started to analyze it. Then I got soooooo confused with so many things I wasn't able to clarify. :)

[Carole]

Hello, sorehearted! Thank you very much for your help.

Carole

[archergirl]

I'm sorry; I sincerely don't mean to sound callous, but I just can't see how you can have genuine feelings for someone you've apparently never met, and have only spoken to online. In psychology they would call that a transference. I understand that the online person may in some way fill a hole in your life, but I would think that this is only an intellectual stop-gap for a need that is more deeply physical and emotional. Online people can be whoever they want to be, or whoever YOU want them to be. I know you are under very difficult circumstances, but it seems to me that online 'love' is actually a way of avoiding having to experience the real thing. It seems fairly clear that your online man is only interested in a kind of distraction; cyber-affairs are a good way of having a little risque fun without any of the serious consequences of a real affair, where people get hurt. I don't know...:confused:

[Carole]

Hi, archergirl. Yes, you might well be right. But I am open to accept that in this infinite universe we all are a tiny part of, energy works at very subtle levels and therefore it can be felt through time and space. There you have the theory about soulmates who feel pulled towards each other until they meet in this life (or another), regardless the circumstances they might have now. I always remember that love is the supreme creative energy. Well, this is only my belief.

As a Scorpio with Venus conjunct Neptune, I could perfectly be seeing only what I want to see, but I am trying hard to convince myself this is not the case. Thanks for your reply :)

[balefully]

Carole,

I hear you as I can fall madly in love with someone in the cyberspace too. :)

sorehearted,

I've just started to learn the dignities table.... I thought I have understood the table but it seems I have not. pardon me to ask something which I am confused from the post..

From the dignities table, Mars in Leo doesn't exalt moon. Moon is exalted in the sign of Taurus. Moon is detriment in Capricon. Moon is fall in Scorpio. Can you help me on with this?

Thanks with Luv,
bale

[Summery Joy]

Carole,

Thank you for explaining the situation in detail. I actually have nothing more to add, but now I understand why your husband was signified by Saturn in detriment.

bale,

I'd love to help, but I don't understand the question. Rephrase please. By the way, I've blabbed a lot about dignity in another thread. Check it out and see if it answer any of your questions for now.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2273

[balefully]

sorehearted,

Thanks! your wrote for carole here Mars receives your significator, the Moon, by exaltation. Yes, he likes you a lot. Maybe even loves you. Your significator is in detriment in such reception though, so the relationship is not good for you. While his significator is succeedant, yours is cadent. He's getting out of this relationship more than you do. His significator in the radix 2nd may show his interest in stability, i.e. he doesn't want anything in his life to change.

But from the chart Mars is in Leo and from the dignities table, it doesn't state that Moon is exalted in Leo. I don't know if I do managed to understand the dignities table.... any help is appreciated.

Thanks with Luv,
bale

[Summery Joy]

Oh.. you really should read the other post

You got it in reverse, bale. Planet A doesn't receive Planet B by exaltation if planet A is in B's exaltation! Planet A receives planet B by exaltation if B is in A's exaltation.

Mars is exaltated in Capricorn. Moon is in Capricorn. Therefore, Mars receives the Moon by exaltation. The fact that Mars is in Leo doesn't matter here at all.

Although the Moon is received by Mars, it is still in detriment because Caprcorn is the detriment of the Moon (the polar opposite of Cancer). So although a reception exists, it is not necessarily good for the Moon.

I hope this clarifies things.

[balefully]

sorehearted,

Apologies for post-and-run yesterday. I think I got it now and hopefully I really do.

e.g. Venus is exalted in Pisces. Venus receives any planets in the sign of Pisces by exaltation.


hopefully right?,
bale

[Summery Joy]

Yup. You got it.