Help my freind

[Amit89]

Hi, my freind looked into his birth chart and he noticed he has got the 22nd degree in jupiter, gemini.

Some people say the 22nd degree is to kill or be killed, I read the whole page on this site, http://www.astrologyinserbia.com/e/knjige/tajne/tajna_22.htm, my freind also read it, he is very worried at the moment.

Can anyone help please, he is a good freind of mine.

[wilsontc]

amit,

Once a person understands that there MAY be some challenges in a chart, they can begin to take steps to AVOID situations which could cause them to happen. If a person is afraid of "kill or being killed" they can stay away from killing others, for example (i.e., the army career would NOT be a good choice). They can also stay away from dangerous people or situations, avoid noisy bars, come in at a decent hour at night. It is important to USE astrology to your advantage. AND, of course, you and your friend could also consider all the OTHER astrologers who have no mention of a "kill or be killed" astrological degree.

Giving options,

Tim

[Amit89]

amit,

Once a person understands that there MAY be some challenges in a chart, they can begin to take steps to AVOID situations which could cause them to happen. If a person is afraid of "kill or being killed" they can stay away from killing others, for example (i.e., the army career would NOT be a good choice). They can also stay away from dangerous people or situations, avoid noisy bars, come in at a decent hour at night. It is important to USE astrology to your advantage. AND, of course, you and your friend could also consider all the OTHER astrologers who have no mention of a "kill or be killed" astrological degree.

Giving options,

Tim

Thanks Tim, you are right when you say use astrology to your advantage, I'm just wondering, should my freind seek proffesional help from astrologers out their?, I'm also wondering if any other person has had the 22nd degree in the chart in history and they have avoided both to kill or being killed, do you really think both could be avoided?

[FlyAway]

I think this question is based on fear and not on astrological insight.
How could an astologer "help" to change the degree?
They can't.
You can only live your life and make decisions from the heart.
Those decisions are always better than decisions based on fear.

And now we are talking about degrees anyway,
does anyone knows a website that sheds a light on the effects of all degrees,
and on the signs and houses they're in?

[Miss Saturn]

I have my Moon at 22 degrees Pisces, does that mean I will be killed. My Sun is at 8 degrees Pisces is that the death degree. My planets are in the 7th house, so I will be murdered by my partner. Neptune the ruler of the 7th is in the 4th I will be killed at home. Pisces is on the cusp of my 8th.

I also have my M.C at 28 Taurus and my I.C is at 28 Scorpio

I also have a Venus square Pluto aspect - Killed by Lover

I have just looked at my partners chart - he has his Venus at 8 Libra his Venus conjuncts Pluto and Venus also squares Saturn looks suspicious to me.

I just thought as well my Moon conjuncts Mercury and my partner is a Virgo.

Today I have just bought a book called Enlisting the Aid of Planetary Powers is this a sign. All sounds deathly to me. :eek:

Miss S

[Miss Saturn]

Oh my god did you see the time I last edited my post. 8.08. This is too freaky for me.

Miss S

[Miss Saturn]

My Pluto is at 18 Libra as well, My partners Ascendant/Descendant is at 8 degrees as well. I better stop this I am scaring myself.

Miss S

[Radu]

I'm sure not every person with any planet at the degree 22+ of any sign (actually this is the 23rd degree) will get killed. Just think about it - Pluto sits at the same degree for months! Does it mean that all the persons born during that time will kill/get killed? The same with the other slow moving planets or even with the Sun - it transits this degree during an entire day each month.

Oh, come on, Miss S! please let me remind you that the mind is very powerful and influence events like this one, making you notice things that don't mean anything. You're not gonna get killed and neither your partner. That's rubbish. If it all were so simple, astrology would be teached at Harvard.

[Miss Saturn]

Hi Radu,

I was half joking anyway you know me being a Mercury in Pisces (23 degrees ahhh)
squaring my Neptune always thinking the worst and vey Gullible.

I am going to meditate on the planet Pluto from my new book Enlisting the Aid of Planetary powers.

Pluto

O Pluto Lord of Fate, Death and Rebirth I surrender to you...

(Relinquishments)

Any sense of loss as being final.
Any fixed ideas that holding me back.
Any and all destructiveness in me or my life.
Any obsessions or horrors that I might have.
Anything that has outlived it's usefullness in my life.
Any extremes of thought or feeling that are damaging.
Any Taboos or secrets that are disempowering or coercing me.
I surrender all these to you.

O Pluto, Lord of Fate, Death and Rebirth, I Receive from you...

(Gifts)

The ability to let go of anything that is harmful to me.
Deep resourcefulness and regenerative powers.
An awareness of what is secret or hidden.
A sense of destiny and of everlasting life.
Personal power and profound insight.
The capacity positively to transform.
Resiliance and powers of survival.

I have a negative thinking mind at times, but I also have Mercury trine Jupiter, and Uranus. I always come back to the right path.

Miss S

[Miss Saturn]

Radu,

I don't appreciate being talked down to either I know full well Astrology is not that simple, if I thought it was. I would probably not have had such a long interest in the subject.

Miss S

[Radu]

Sorry, I meant no disrespect.

[Miss Saturn]

No I am sorry Radu. I know you were just reassuring me. Thank you for the reality check.

Miss S

[Amit89]

I found out I'v got the critical 22nd degree in my chart too!

I'm not scared, I know a lot of people who have got this degree in their chart, some of them sportsmen.