View Full Version : Chinese New Year 2010 - Year of Tiger Chinese Astrology
Master Tsai
02-10-2010, 06:08 AM
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/images/tiger/O_Tiger175X.jpg
Year 2010 is the year of Metal Tiger Year. 2010 Chinese New Year Day is on February 14, 2010 in China's time zone. This day is a new moon day, and is the first day of the first Chinese lunar month in the Chinese Lunar Calendar system. The exact new moon time is at 10:52 on 14-Feb-10 in China time zone.
If we apply Chinese lunar calendar system on the USA time zones, we find something interesting here. In the US Eastern Standard Time (EST), the new moon time is at 21:52 of 13-Feb-10. In the US Pacific Standard Time (PST), the new moon time is at 18:52 of 13-Feb-10. Therefore, the Chinese New Year Day for USA time zones is on February 13, 2010.
The first of Chinese Astrological Year is not on the Chinese New Year Day. In China's time zone, the first day of the Chinese astrological Metal Tiger Year is February 4, 2010, because February 4th, 2010 is the first day of Tiger month and the Tiger month is the first month of the year in Chinese Fortune-Telling Calendar system.
In the Chinese Fortune-Telling calendar, the first day of the first month, Tiger month, is called "Start of Spring", which is when the sun enters the 315th degree on the tropical zodiac. In the China's time zone, the time of the Start of Spring is at Feb-04 06:47. So the first day of the White Tiger year 2010 is on 04-Feb-09.
The time of the Start of Spring is on Feb-03 at 17:47 for US EST zone and on Feb-03 at 14:47 for US PST zone. So the first day of White Tiger Year in USA is on 03-Feb-2010.
This is because Chinese Four Pillar Five Element astrology uses the solar calendar, no the lunar calendar. Many people don't realize this; they think Chinese astrology should use the Lunar Calendar until they build a wrong Chinese astrology birth chart. If a person was born on February 5, 2010, before Chinese New Year Day, then his or her birth year animal sign is Tiger, not Ox. More about Chinese Astrology Calendar is at http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/clc/LunarCalendar.htm (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/clc/LunarCalendar.htm)
To predict people's Chinese horoscope 2010 using animal sign for 2010, it will describe using animal characteristics, such as "Chinese say one mountain cannot abide two tigers. That means there can only have one king in the nation. Tiger is a vigorous and ferocious animal. One Tiger is a symbol of power and authority. Two Tigers mean fighting for power. The loser will become powerless. Therefore, it's a taboo for Tiger people meet the Tiger of zodiac year. This implies 2010 is not a good year for Tiger people. Friendship, love relationship, money management, career position or power competition might be damaged in 2010."
But the traditional Chinese astrology prediction from Chinese fortunetellers are using the Chinese Five Element theory.
I wrote one for 2010 at http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/2010ChineseHoroscope.htm (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/2010ChineseHoroscope.htm)
If you are interesting about Chinese New Year festivals, then my Chinese New Year Questions and Answers page convers lots of information at http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/NewYear.htm (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/NewYear.htm)
Happy Chinese New Year!
byjove
02-10-2010, 08:26 AM
Hi!
It's wonderful to see some more excitement about the New Year! Year of the Metal (white) Tiger, no? Fast pace of year, many changes, no?
And could you teach us or refer us to where we could learn about deeper Chinese astrology?
E.g. I know I was born in the year of the Yin Fire Rabbit. I also know I was born
in the month of the Dragon, day of Metal Tiger and Hour of the Horse. But I
would like to learn about the importance of each animal. I find there is little useful information on this on the internet in English, though I bet there's plenty in Chinese. I would love to learn more!
starlink
02-10-2010, 08:51 AM
Master Tsai, thank you for this explanation. I am always very interested in Chinese astrology (and China also).
This implies 2010 is not a good year for Tiger people.
Now, my Son is a Tiger, a night Tiger and indeed, his Solar Return for this year has the Descendant of his natal chart on the Ascendant of the Solar Return chart, which usually is an indication of a difficult year ahead. Oh boy, and now you are also saying that a Tiger in a Tiger year is unfortunate. I thought that it would be the opposite actually, that when you get into your own year, that this would help you. I read something about that ages ago.
Nevertheless, his year started badly indeed. He has great problems in his job and I am worried for him as he had a burn-out in December. He just HAS to find another job or he will get ill again. Not easy right now.
I would love to learn more!
Yes, so do I! By Jove, do you know a site where I could look up about the month and the day animals? I only know I am a Fire Pig.:) but no idea what the rest is.
starlink
02-10-2010, 08:54 AM
Oh wait, I just opened the link Master Tsai gave, but must have a good look on how it all works.
Would this Tiger year be less or worse for a Tiger if they are of a different element? Like a water Tiger or Fire Tiger in this Tiger year? Lots of questions.....
I just looked at the first link in Masters post. What struck me, is that for a Tiger, you get this Aquarius/Pisces as astrology name. Now the Ascendant of my son is indeed Pisces.
For myself, Pig, you see Scorpio/Sagittarius and my Ascendant is Scorpio.
Is this a coincidence?
byjove
02-10-2010, 09:19 AM
Info. on this in English is poor...what I've found is scattered across many websites, and I can't remember half of them. But I found these to help move on from just the animal year:
Basic info. on a Chinese chart
http://www.kjfengshui.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=84
Info. on the houses and areas of life
http://www.aryabhatt.com/occult/chineseastro.htm
One of my fav. Chinese Astro. authors and good info.
http://suzannewhite.com/
Recent Chinese Astrology Forum with book references
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12403
Most of what I've learned has come from books which I've listed in
the above forum link. I know a little about the importance of the hour, day, month and year, but can't be the most knowledgeable one on that on here, if anyone does what want to know, we can go into that on here!:biggrin:
starlink
02-10-2010, 09:31 AM
Master Tsai, I went over all your links and it is the first time I understand anything clearly about the way Chinese Astrology is done. This is fantastic!! Thank you very much for this. I will use it in combination with the Western astrology charts from now on. What a find!!
Very unfortunate (I think) is my son. According to the charts, he is a White Tiger (oh oh!!) born in the year of the Green Tiger. And now in this White Tiger year, could this be extra bad you think? I still have to find which animals represent the month of the year so see which months are lucky for him. He actually never had much luck in his work, always ends up in companies which go bust or where he gets very unfairly treated. (like doing an enormous amount of work for a lousy pay,and when he leaves the company he finds out that his successor is getting double his pay for the same work.) I must study this stuff more. I am all excited about it:)
starlink
02-10-2010, 09:44 AM
Thanks a lot ByJove! I have noted down all the links. In the meantime I found the month I was looking for. This is really nice dont you think? I know now for the first time that I am a Green Monkey, Red (fire)Pig and Wood combination and that horse and snake are my lucky animals.That April and May will be my lucky months and that I should wear more RED! Ha ha, it so happens that I love red.
Master Tsai
02-11-2010, 06:44 AM
Not all People born in year of Tiger have bad luck in year 2010. They might have good luck in 2010, if their Luck Element is Wood or Fire, depending the Five element and animal combinations in the birth chart.
Most of Chinese horoscope websites tell people luck by animal signs. It’s easy to understand the predictions that way. But we cannot know too much about career or money luck from those animals. The professional Chinese fortunetellers predict people fortune using Yin Yang Five Elements (Metal, Water, Wood, Fire and Earth) Balance Theory.
The Balance Theory is a simpler and quicker way to understand the whole picture of Chinese Five Element Astrology.
We can calculate the Five Element weights from a Chinese astrology birth chart. If the score of Wood is zero or close to zero, then we know the person is lack of Wood. The person needs more Wood to balance his or her Five Elements. In Chinese astrology, we call Wood is the Lucky Element. That means the cycle of Wood will bring the person luck. Year 2010 is a Tiger year. Tiger contains mainly Wood. Therefore, Year of Tiger will benefit people lack of Wood - no matter that the people were born in Tiger Year or not.
How to know our Five Element scores? You can find the answer at http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/chineseastrology.htm
The key of Chinese astrology is to find the Lucky Element. There are different methods to help us to determine the Lucky Element. Please read http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/5EBasic.htm
However, The Five Element Score Balance Theory doesn’t work for everyone, but it will work for at least 70% cases. The Daily Chinese astrology uses Strong-Weak Method at http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/DailyChineseHoroscope.htm
If the fortune of a child is predicted bad, then either something bad will happen on him or his close relative. Therefore, if the child is healthy, then pay attention on the health of grandparents.
starlink
02-11-2010, 08:56 AM
Thank you very much for your answer to this Master T. My son's element is indeed WOOD, so I am a bit less worried now. I will look through all your links, very helpful, and then see what I can expect:). Maybe the Strong-Weak method will give me more information.
Starlink
byjove
02-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Lucky element eh? How do we 'harness' it to boost what we're lacking? I read that (I don't know if it continues) that Chinese people have often incorporated the missing element into the child's name...isn't that interesting? Hmm
starlink
02-12-2010, 04:01 PM
the missing element into the child's name
Ha ha, that is a good way around it! Question is, will it be sufficient protection?
byjove
02-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Oh, and by the way........just a month ago, I was reading all about how the Year of the Tiger would bring changes to many things, at times the year would be a bit hectic. Reading that a month ago, things were pretty quiet. Now? Things are definitely on the move....I've had multiple job interviews (and offers) and a see a
solution to current problems. We're only 2 weeks into the Month of the Tiger, and it's Chinese New Year tomorrow, and already it's quite clear what the year brings ahead, the changes are already in the air...:joyful:
starlink
02-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Yes, this will be a very interesting (difficult I guess) year, as also the total Mooneclipse at 10° Cancer/Capricornon the 31st of December predicted.
In 1945 there was also a Mooneclipse and a January Sun eclipse(24°Capricorn) observed and President Roosevelt died. The Sun of the USA (13° Cancer) is being triggered by these Moon and Sun eclipses (the Nodes axis) .
And president Kennedy was also killed (22 nov.'63) very shortly before the Mooneclipse , also end December 1963 when the Moonnode axis transited over the USA Sun. (same with Roosevelt)
So in both cases, this Moonnode transit caused far-reaching changes in the presidency of the USA. I read this in an astrological magazine I am subscribed to.
Almost 1 day after I posted here, my son got a severe anxiety attack and this also happened in the 2nd half of December, so I guess that Moon Eclipse can be felt already quite a while before. Anyways, this is not Chinese astrology, but I just wanted to mention it.
fensi88
02-14-2010, 06:05 AM
Can someone clear to me what is my lucky element:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=977
If I use suggestion on that site, my lucky elemnt are Fire and Wood, but I saw some examples of reading similar chart in this manner: "In this chart we have profusely Metal and because we can not beat it we must join it, so your lucky element is Metal??"
Please clear this to me so I will finaly know how 2010 year will be for me.
Thanks.
starlink
02-14-2010, 07:34 AM
Very good question Goca! I think the Master has to explain this for you (us)as indeed, it sounds like "joining", but that wont balance out the chart doesn't it. The idea of the Lucky element is balancing the "too much" of other elements. I go along with the saying: "That which you cannot beat should be joined" (what else can one do after all) but I would think that then one element gets too dominant which cant be good either. Lets wait and hope Master Tsai can explain this a bit further. In the
meantime he gave us this link which has a calculator in order to find your lucky element.(his last post to me).
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/5EBasic.htm (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/5EBasic.htm)
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.co...eastrology.htm (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/chineseastrology.htm)
fensi88
02-14-2010, 08:03 AM
I am not master of chinese asytrology but to me (in case like this) it si logic that lucky element for me must be Water to help Metal to realise this power energy through creative endevers. And then with "help" of Water I will have more Wood, more Wood produce more Fire and so on, I think in that case my chart will be more balanced. But lets see what others more experienced has to tell and explain.
starlink
02-14-2010, 09:26 AM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=974 Hé Gocy, this is a nice Smiley! Where did you find it?
starlink
02-14-2010, 09:30 AM
Master Tsai, a small question. In the daily horoscope, it is said that you must put in your Nick name, not your real name, but I had several Nicknames in the past, given to me by my father, my exhusband and my best girlfriend, but right now nobody is calling me by any of those nick names anymore. So what do I do, just put my own name in? I also saw that by putting in all the different nick names, I got the same answers, so I guess that the birthday is still the most important one.:)
fensi88
02-14-2010, 09:49 AM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=974 Hé Gocy, this is a nice Smiley! Where did you find it?
I found it on someother forum, click on it, save it on your comp and use if you like.
starlink
02-14-2010, 10:11 AM
Thanks!! this one is really nice.
byjove
02-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Happy New Year!
And I was just hoping to ask, how exactly are we to use the knowledge of our lucky element? I think mine was water, I don't know what to do, I can't rename myself with water in the name, should I leave bowls of water around?? LOL I just don't know! :tongue:
starlink
02-14-2010, 02:06 PM
And a Happy Chinese New Year to you as well, AND of course to Master Tsai!! He must be out celebrating:)
should I leave bowls of water around??
How about taking a daily bath?, go to a turkish bath once a week?
Now I also have a difficult task. I need to do something with fire (my lucky element) and wearing red, normally speaking, but I was born in Southern hemisphere and then things change yet again and I have to replace red with black and hot with cold:crying:!! (as too much fire might put my five elements out of balance too.) I love black, it looks great on me, so no problem there, but I dont know about cold. I am a tropical bird, born in Indonesia (but I am Dutch) and anything cold makes me really sick. I hate winter, rain, wind especially, so how to solve that? Chinese astrology is hard to follow, but I think we are seeing here more the "cookbook" versions of Chinese astrology and I am sure there is far more to it. Would love to know it all. Ah, why am I not 30 years old anymore......:sad: with years to study.
candiceaqua
02-16-2010, 02:57 PM
There are transit system in the 8 pillar of five elements in Chinese astrology as well.
-Firstly, the 5 Elements is represented by 5 stars, Venus for metal, Jupiter for wood, Mercury for water, Mars for fire, Saturn for mud
-These five elements is devided into 10 elements according to their different nature in sex, like yang metal, yin metal.
-Every 10 years in one's life could be represented by one yang/yin element, and they will have differnet influence on your life.
-If you are Yang Mud, then the 10 year for the Ying Fire will be good for you, everything will go well this year. (Because Fire is hot ,so it could burn the wood into ashes, then the ashes is just the Mud. So fire could bring energy to mud, but if one has too much mud already, then we will need wood to diminish the mud to keep the element in balance.)
-In Chinese astrology, they have 8 pillars of different elements, which is made up of your Four pillars : year-month-date-hour (each pillar have two elements).
-The date pillar is always the most important as it represent yourself, the year is represented your grandfather or your ancestor, the month pillar stands for your brother, your wife or husband could also be represented by the date pillar. The hour pillar is your children.
-Different elements in the pillar have different functions, all around the date pillar. If your date pillar is mud, and the mud could control water, as when there is a flood, only mud could stop it by building up big dam.Something you could control we could see it as your money and resources and wife(if you are a male). If you have many water elements in your pillars, it could indicate that you enjoy the company of different lovers and you will focus on earning money.
- Mud is controlled by the wood, then if you are the mud, the wood element could control you and give pressure on you. The root of the tree and grass could keep the mud from moving and become solid. So if there is any wood element in your pillar, it will represent your father or grandfather or your boss, they will of course give you pressure but at the same time, they will help you if you choose to be a politician(if the element control you is something good for you).
There is more in the Chinese Astrology. there is an older Chinese Astrology called---Qi Zheng Si Yu, it is similar to classical astrology, and it may be a different branch of vedic astrology with different new idea from ancient Chinese. It is a very delicate system with 7 stars(sun ,moon, venus,mercury, mars, saturn) and 4 Point(North node, South node, Lilith, ....) and 12 houses which will fall in 28 different constellation stars each stands for an animal with different element.
This is the chart picture, http://home.comcast.net/%7Eathomeprojects/window_alt.png
candiceaqua
02-16-2010, 03:18 PM
Dear Starlink,
If you need more water elements, as this year is the wood tiger year, the water elements could bring luck to the wood which we all know that without water the tree could not even grow up.
The method of Chinese to bring more water element to themselves are:
-The simplest way to do is to have a new name with water(when you are still a baby)
Numbers for water: 1, 6 (better live in floor with such numbers)
Colours: Black, grey, blue (wear clothes of these colours)
Direction: North(Just like the lost item horary indicated all water signs belong to the north), you could wok or live in the north.
Industries: Journalist, sailor, trade, exporting, detective
Organ:Kidney
-Go swiming or keep fishes for pets
-Living near water, like river or lake.
-Be friends with the strong water elements people(like cancer, scorpio, etc)
-Metal could as well strengthen the power of water, and metal represent white and lung directing west.
fensi88
02-16-2010, 03:34 PM
Candiceaqua, can you please be so kind as to clear to me which is my lucky element, I sent my chart at post #14 of this thread. Thanks.
candiceaqua
02-16-2010, 04:17 PM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=977
According to your chart,you are the female metal in the day together with two metals in the month pillar so in all you have three metal out of 8 elements.
And the metal born in autumn is very strong, so you bear enough your peer in the natal chart. I'd suggest that first fire then water is your lucky element , they can control your metal element into a balanced quantity, which is still need to be confirmed by your transit luck.
Different sex have different route of transit, presuming you are a girl, then your transit year would be:
According to your chart,you are the female metal in the day together with two metals in the month pillar so in all you have three metal out of 8 elements.
And the metal born in autumn is very strong, so you bear enough your peer in the natal chart. I'd suggest that first fire then water is your lucky element , they can control your metal element into a balanced quantity, which is still need to be confirmed by your transit luck.
Different sex have different route of transit, presuming you are a girl, then your transit year would be:
0-10 years old yang water(express and show your talents)
10-20 yin water
20-30 yang wood(your money and resources)
30-40 yin wood(your money and resources)
40-50 yang fire(your husband and boss and career and fame)
50-60 yin fire(your husband and boss and career and fame)
60-70 yang mud(mud is something could look after you)
70-80 yin mud(mud is something could look after you)
80-90 yang metal
If any period is your best time in life, we could take that period element to be your lucky element. To make a guess according to your natal chart, your fire year is your best yesr in your life?
fensi88
02-16-2010, 05:29 PM
Dear Candiceaqua,
Thank you so much for this detailed analyse! I am impressed how you see all that "stuff" from this pic, yes I am female and born in autumn (7 oct 1953).
I'd suggest that first fire then water is your lucky element , they can control your metal element into a balanced quantity
Oh, yes, I see your logic here, fire to controle and water to realise so much metal!
To make a guess according to your natal chart, your fire year is your best yesr in your life?
Yes, 40-50 yang fire and 50-60 yin fire, but also 10-20 yin water!
Thanks for your kind explanation, now I understand how to look at Chinese 5 element chart!
candiceaqua
02-17-2010, 01:44 AM
lt is my pleasure to offer you some information.
Master Tsai
02-18-2010, 12:38 AM
Fensi 88,
Your Day Master Metal is very strong. But it's not strong enough to become a special case birth chart. (Your birth chart is not an Extremely Strong Case)
So you can choose Water and Wood are your lucky elements. Wood represents your money. But you won't feel too much wealth increase, if only some Wood comes from cycle. For example, 2010 is a Metal Tiger year. Tiger contains Wood. Wood is money. But it has to share all the Metal in your birth chart and the Metal in 2010. So you don't have too much left :sad:. you still see the money :happy:.
Your money year needs a cycle coming with strong Wood. Water can protect Wood from Metal. There is no Water in your Branches (animals). Water Rat and Water Pig can help you to generate the income. If the Yearly Cycle and 10-Year Major Cycle come in with Wood and Water, then that will be a good year to you.
Any good luck or not for our life, the key is in the 10-year cycles, because that the luck lasts for 10 years.
So we have to find how many lucky 10-year cycles in our life.
Usually, people have two 10-year Major Cycles (20-year) good luck. Luckier people have 30-year good luck. Some people's luck years come after age 80 - they must be very unlucky.
Allen Tsai
fensi88
02-18-2010, 05:35 AM
Dear Allen, thank you for your analyze and explanation especially for this :
Any good luck or not for our life, the key is in the 10-year cycles, because that the luck lasts for 10 years.
I did not know that, thanks for pointing this out! Now I will generate 10-year cycles chart for me and analyze it! Thanks once more.
fensi88
02-18-2010, 10:05 AM
Your Day Master Metal is very strong. But it's not strong enough to become a special case birth chart.
I have one more question. How much it has to be strong for special case chart? How do you look that? In percentages? Please explain!
Thanks.
starlink
02-18-2010, 04:28 PM
Dear Candice , wow, we really get some info from you!! Great! I dont know if I can understand it all, looks extremely complicated and I thought normal astrology was complicated! Thank you , I will have a good look at everything first before I will come with questions. It is nice to see this board come to life!:)
Starlink
starlink
02-18-2010, 05:25 PM
you are the female metal in the day together with two metals in the month pillar
Candice, in Fensi's chart I cannot see two metals in the month pillar. Is the other one not the white chicken? Where do you find the 3rd metal?
candiceaqua
02-19-2010, 04:40 AM
Hi Starlink,
The characteristics of the five elements , metal, wood, fire, water and Earth, impact the twelve animals of the Chinese Zodiac by assigning different characteristics to the animals . Since the twelve animals of the Chinese Zodiac actually represent a period of time, in this case a year (the 12 branches), assigning one of the five elements to each of the twelve years (12 branches) actually creates 60 different combinations. Rather than operating in 12-year cycles, the Chinese Zodiac is actually based on a system of 60-year cycles.
Each of the 12 animals are governed by an element plus a Yin Yang Direction.
Rat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 1st Trine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trine), Fixed Element (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing) Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28classical_element%29)).
Ox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ox_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 2nd Trine, Fixed Element Water).
Tiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 3rd Trine, Fixed Element Wood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_%28classical_element%29)).
Rabbit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 4th Trine, Fixed Element Wood).
Dragon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 1st Trine, Fixed Element Wood).
Snake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 2nd Trine, Fixed Element Fire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_%28classical_element%29)).
Horse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 3rd Trine, Fixed Element Fire).
Goat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 4th Trine, Fixed Element Fire).
Monkey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 1st Trine, Fixed Element Metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_%28classical_element%29)).
Chicken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooster_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 2nd Trine, Fixed Element Metal).
Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_%28zodiac%29) (Yang, 3rd Trine, Fixed Element Metal).
Pig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_%28zodiac%29) (Yin, 4th Trine, Fixed Element Water).
Zodiac Animal ---Western Zodiac
rat /子 --------------- Aquarius
ox / bull 丑 ------ Capricorn
tiger/ 寅 ----------- Sagi
hare / rabbit 卯--- Scorpio
dragon 辰 --------- Libra
snake 巳 ---------- Virgo
horse 午 ------------ Leo
ram / sheep 未 --- Cancer
monkey 申 ------- Gemini
rooster 酉 -------- Taurus
dog 戌 ------------- Aries
boar / pig 亥 ------------ Pisces
Below is some pdf for your to download if you are interested:
http://www.heluo.nl/articles/Additio...ourPillars.pdf (http://www.heluo.nl/articles/AdditionalChartingInFourPillars.pdf)
How to determine your luck elements--useful god for you:
http://www.heluo.nl/articles/FourPillarsUsefulGod.pdf
Easy way to build four pillar chart yourself:
http://www.heluo.nl/articles/FourPil...syFormulas.pdf (http://www.heluo.nl/articles/FourPillarsEasyFormulas.pdf)
Candice, in Fensi's chart I cannot see two metals in the month pillar. Is the other one not the white chicken? Where do you find the 3rd metal?
Master Tsai
02-19-2010, 05:59 AM
I have one more question. How much it has to be strong for special case chart? How do you look that? In percentages? Please explain!
Thanks.
If a birth chart contains only the same kind of elements and mother elements, then we can say the Day Master of the birth chart is Extremely Strong.
Master Tsai
02-19-2010, 06:29 AM
Dear Allen, thank you for your analyze and explanation especially for this :
I did not know that, thanks for pointing this out! Now I will generate 10-year cycles chart for me and analyze it! Thanks once more.
People's luck determines mainly by the Stems and Branches of 10-Year Major Cycle and Yearly Cycle.
If both of Stem and Branch of Major Cycle contain the lucky element, and both of Stem and Branch of Yearly Cycle also contain the lucky element, then that will be a wonderful year.
If both of Stem and Branch of Major Cycle contain the lucky element, but both of Stem and Branch of Yearly Cycle contain the unlucky element, then the person has at least 50% luck in that year. But the next year, the luck will be better.
If both of Stem and Branch of Major Cycle contain the unlucky element, but both of Stem and Branch of Yearly Cycle contain the lucky element, then the person has 50% luck. But the next year, the luck might be worse - because the next year might not have lucky element in the Stem and Branch.
2010 is Tiger Wood cycle. 2011 is Rabbit Wood cycle. 2012 is Dragon Wood and Earth cycle. The Wood Cycle covers 2.5 years.
2013 is Snake Fire Year. 2014 is Horse Fire Year. 2015 is Sheep Fire and Earth Year. The Fire Cycle covers 2.5 year.
The luck of Major Cycles last for 10 year. If a person’s lucky element is Wood and he has two lucky Wood Major Cycles, which is 20 years. Then he should have a very good 2.5 Wood years during those 20 years.
Therefore, we can see that a person has any chance in his life roughly by looking for Major Cycles.
starlink
02-19-2010, 09:38 AM
Good heavens, Candice, you really know a lot about this!! I am impressed.:w00t: Together with Master Tsai, we now have a comprehensible guide put together. I think I must print everything out, make a special order for "Chinese Astrology", take a cup of coffee and retreat on my sofa, in order to study all this in detail. It is overwhelming! 60 year cycles!! Cant believe someone can keep this all in their memory:).
Thank you very very much for your patient explanations.
Kind regards,
Starlink (also Moon in:scorpio: :ninja: by the way!)
candiceaqua
02-19-2010, 10:27 AM
Dear Starlink,
I learned a lot from your excellent understanding of horary, I love horary! I'd be glad to offer you information you are interested.:lol:
Kind regards,
Candiceaqua
starlink
02-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Thanks Cadice! So far it looks to me as if Chinese astrology is as complex as the Chinese language itself, LOL! I am a Taurus with a Saturn-Mercury exact square, so I need some time to absorb all this as you can well imagine:).
For instance, I seem to be a Green Monkey who is born in the year of the Red Pig. I always thought I WAS a Red Pig (Fire Pig) only. I have NO idea what a Green Monkey is all about. Now the person (me) is equivalent to Male Wood, but I am a female. Is it possible to see the "male" and "female" in a chinese chart? Like maybe the Hour (is here the birth hour meant?). My hour is Female Water.
Yes, I love horary astrology but still dont know half of what I should know I feel. I rely very much on my intuition which does play a big role in horary I have noticed.
Like with that horary you and I are busy with, the question Tikana posted. Not easy to see if the wife keeps the job or looses it. I am really curious to know the outcome.
If I am completely at loss for an answer, I use the "Yes or No" technique from Marc Edmund Jones which I find surprisingly reliable. I only use the very basic method, because his book goes into so much complex business, it is too much for me.
So then I looked at the house representing the job and the opposite house, and those planets also dont perfect. So answer is no (I think). We will have to see:)
fensi88
02-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Master Tsai, thanks for this additional explanation!
Candiceaqua thank you so much for links you posted!
candiceaqua
02-19-2010, 04:47 PM
Dear Starlink,
It is really a wonderful thing to absorb such delicate and beautiful art! Astrology, no matter occidental or oriental, both are very delicate art.
In 4 pillar astrology Chart, you will have 8 elements with different sex. If one has 8 male elements, it is not a very balanced one, it is called---Pure Yang Chart.(The person will be very strong-minded and stubborn,not good for his female relatives and wife.If he has good transit, then he could achieve success, but that is very rare.If a female have the Pure Yang Chart, then she will not have a good marriage, and also not good for her female relatives,and may not have a good relationship with her mother),vice versa for the pure Yin Chart(all 8 elements are female).
If your birth date is:
Male wood represents:Big trees, good talent, easy to get famous in society(all depends on how many woods in the chart), Integrity, generosity, calm, motivated
Female wood represents: flowers and grass, supple,stable.
Horary is very interesting! I will find some works of Marc Edmund Jones to read.The opposite house is really important.Thanks for your suggesstions!
Thanks Cadice! So far it looks to me as if Chinese astrology is as complex as the Chinese language itself, LOL! I am a Taurus with a Saturn-Mercury exact square, so I need some time to absorb all this as you can well imagine:).
For instance, I seem to be a Green Monkey who is born in the year of the Red Pig. I always thought I WAS a Red Pig (Fire Pig) only. I have NO idea what a Green Monkey is all about. Now the person (me) is equivalent to Male Wood, but I am a female. Is it possible to see the "male" and "female" in a chinese chart? Like maybe the Hour (is here the birth hour meant?). My hour is Female Water.
Yes, I love horary astrology but still dont know half of what I should know I feel. I rely very much on my intuition which does play a big role in horary I have noticed.
Like with that horary you and I are busy with, the question Tikana posted. Not easy to see if the wife keeps the job or looses it. I am really curious to know the outcome.
If I am completely at loss for an answer, I use the "Yes or No" technique from Marc Edmund Jones which I find surprisingly reliable. I only use the very basic method, because his book goes into so much complex business, it is too much for me.
So then I looked at the house representing the job and the opposite house, and those planets also dont perfect. So answer is no (I think). We will have to see:)
candiceaqua
02-19-2010, 04:57 PM
Dear Fensi88,
Very glad that I could be any help of you.
If you are interested in Chinese Astrology, I could find some information for you, I have a few Chinese friend who are very good at this.
Best wishes,
Candiceaqua
candiceaqua
02-19-2010, 04:59 PM
Dear Fensi88,
Very glad that I could be any help of you.
If you are interested in Chinese Astrology, I could find some information for you.
Best wishes,
Candiceaqua
fensi88
02-19-2010, 05:07 PM
Unfortunatelly, right now I have no such time to go detailed in Chinese astrology, hope I will have it in next life :cool: !
candiceaqua
02-21-2010, 07:42 AM
It really needs time to consume all that, lucky that I know the exsitance of horary not too late and got time to study!
:biggrin:
Unfortunatelly, right now I have no such time to go detailed in Chinese astrology, hope I will have it in next life :cool: !
KarenWu
05-27-2011, 05:34 AM
In China, the year of tiger will have many new born babies, because Chinese people believe that their tiger baby can be very smart and lucky.
byjove
05-27-2011, 11:46 AM
Hi Candice,
can you tell us the site you got the free reading at the top of the page? I've been to it a thousand times but not recently, and keep finding fake trash on the net when I search for it. Thanks.
How can we learn a little about how the Chinese ascendant affects the native? I'm really interested in this, and have a few books on it - but it does not talk about it much. (2011 year of the metal RABBIT)
----- Ascendant calculator...I was born in spring time - 1 hour AHEAD of normal GMT...GMT+1...do I remove one hour for calculation of the ascendant?-------I keep finding 'you are white tiger' so why in the world is the YEAR of our birth so popular today? Is this like the Sun signs in western astrology? So...I was born on the day of the metal tiger...should I really be paying attention to who and what the metal tiger is and not my year - the fire rabbit?
Year of the yin - fire rabbit (rabbit naturally - wood)
Month of yang +wood dragon (dragon naturally + earth)
day of yang +metal tiger (tiger naturally +wood)
hour of the yang +water hourse (hourse naturally -fire)
Try: http://www.feng-shui-institute.org/free4pillars.htm
Fourpillars
05-27-2011, 01:13 PM
I keep finding 'you are white tiger' so why in the world is the YEAR of our birth so popular today? Is this like the Sun signs in western astrology? So...I was born on the day of the metal tiger...should I really be paying attention to who and what the metal tiger is and not my year - the fire rabbit?
Hi,
There are a lot of finer details to 4P astrology, but in big lines:
the year pillar dominates the early childhood
month pillar is very active in the youth
day pillar determines the adult period
and hour pillar governs the old age.
You are considered a Yang Metal person (because that's the day stem element), and the other elements in the chart are then interpreted according to the 5 elements.
Of course there is much more to it.
PS: that site is also using my free calculator without giving the link to my site as per the terms of use, they removed it. Not very fair.
byjove
05-27-2011, 05:24 PM
Hmm I'm not sure if this is only for learning or can we discuss things here, but what happens if when you marry a person, your two ruling animals at that time are perfectly compatible, and the next stage, totally incompatible. Oh dear...! I've got to look out for that.
Another thing...I could be going down the wrong track here, but in people's opinions...would you consider Chinese astrology, as represented in the West to be 'misleading' in the same way that western astrology 'sun signs' are only one part of your life story? Would people instead recommed focussing on the characters of the stage of life you are in?
Hmm food for though. And thank you for the reply above ^^^ :biggrin:
bluesage
09-25-2011, 01:19 AM
Me.
Me be Tiger!
byjove
09-25-2011, 05:57 PM
In China, the year of tiger will have many new born babies, because Chinese people believe that their tiger baby can be very smart and lucky.
I'm confused. So my year is Rabbit and my day is Tiger. I'm told I'm a Tiger because the day represents me, but indeed, as the example above shows, many people choose the year to have a baby...I'm confused - which is me, my personality; Rabbit or Tiger? Following what someone else said; one pillar for youth, another for childhood, another for adulthood, and another for old age, I could see my Rabbit when younger and Tiger when older.......but why don't people talk about it like that if that's how it really works? All I read is year year year...but that's not the full picture...:joyful:
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