Good intuitive rapport with mother

[gimzo23]

I would be very appreciative if someone could take a quick look at my chart about the following. I think I can see where it comes from, but maybe there is something else I haven't noticed. The thing is that I've had quite some interesting "thought reading" incidents with my mother over the time. She doesn't have the same with me though. But for instance, after quite some years after divorce, she started dating again some time ago. She later began to tell me about the date and there was just a name popping up in my head and I said to her that Peter was his name wasn't it? And his name was indeed Peter and she never mentioned his name before. The exact same thing happened with another date of hers as well, as there was just a name popping in my head and I asked her how was it with Max? And the name was right again even though she never mentioned it before. Another time it was the city someone came from which she tried to remember. I don't know what it is, intuitive flashes of some kind. It's not on a regular basis, but when I get them it seems I'm always right. I think it doesn't work if I have to just guess a name or try it as a test, as I don't have conscious control or access to it unfortunately. So I think I would definitely fail if tested, lol. But it seems it's especially with names (or numbers on TV news) for some reason, as there has been a couple of other similar incidents with my mother before. (And a couple of other interesting incidents, though few and far between without my mother or names involved, but I'm mainly interested mother-related here).

Now for what I can see in my chart, the Moon rules the 12th and is in the 3rd of everyday communication, while also being conjunct the IC, making an exact sextile with the 1st house Mercury. I think these are the main constellations possibly indicating it, aren't they? Or might there be anything else adding up to this? 4th house Uranus squaring Asc, for flashes of intuition at home maybe? Most of the incidents with my mother happened at home, which seems to also correlate with the Moon conjunct IC as well I guess.

Thanks in advance to whoever likes to take a look at my chart and make a comment. :sideways:

[astrologer50]

well personally I would be looking closely at what T Neptune is doing or your secondary progressions? I've had some wonderful experiences with T Neptune trining my natal moon and very psychic to. can you post another chart with prog & transits?

[Vagabondgirl]

Hmmm. I also have "telepathic" weird experiences with my friends and mum sometimes...

Like you I have mercury in contact with neptune. I have sextile and I see you have the trine? I think mercury might be the one indicating telepathy together with neptune.

Maybe you might have these experiences with others if you are close same "wave length" too?

[Vagabondgirl]

Does Libra(?) and Gemini mean telepathy then?

[gimzo23]

well personally I would be looking closely at what T Neptune is doing or your secondary progressions? I've had some wonderful experiences with T Neptune trining my natal moon and very psychic to. can you post another chart with prog & transits?

Thanks for all the replies. Even though I've had experiences with my mother for longer, they definitely seemed to increase in "wow-factor" and frequency since a year or so. I just checked transiting Neptune and it indeed has been more and less trining my natal Moon for a while now. Thanks for the hint, Astrologer50. Maybe this added to the natal Moon constellation that might bring those experiences.

[gimzo23]

Hmmm. I also have "telepathic" weird experiences with my friends and mum sometimes...

Like you I have mercury in contact with neptune. I have sextile and I see you have the trine? I think mercury might be the one indicating telepathy together with neptune.

Maybe you might have these experiences with others if you are close same "wave length" too?

Thanks for that Vagabondgirl. Is your sextile rather close? I think my trine between Neptune and Mercury is a little too wide to have an effect like that. Though with the theory that planets could get influenced through other planets that are in aspect with them, maybe it works through Neptune trining Saturn, thus influencing conjunct Mercury, but I'm not sure about that.

As for experiences with other close people, it's mainly with my mother. Apart from her there have been a few quite interesting experiences rather with unknown people and situations and a couple of non-person related incidents. They're not too often though, the good or big ones. "Smaller" day-to-day experiences happen a little more frequently though. I would tend more to the exact Moon-Mercury sextile aspect in my chart than the wide Neptune-Mercury trine? Maybe the close Neptune-Asc trine adding a little to it rather?

[gimzo23]

Something else to have into account is that both of you have an important influence of Libra and Gemini: gimzo many planets, and you, Vagabondgirl, Sun and Asc (just saw your chart :wink: ).

I would think that Gemini, Libra and Aquarius (Air signs) are the most related to exchange of ideas in all its forms; to thoughts.

That's interesting, I didn't think about that. Maybe it adds to it that the Moon is also in an air sign with Libra.

[Vagabondgirl]

Thanks for that Vagabondgirl. Is your sextile rather close? I think my trine between Neptune and Mercury is a little too wide to have an effect like that. Though with the theory that planets could get influenced through other planets that are in aspect with them, maybe it works through Neptune trining Saturn, thus influencing conjunct Mercury, but I'm not sure about that.

As for experiences with other close people, it's mainly with my mother. Apart from her there have been a few quite interesting experiences rather with unknown people and situations and a couple of non-person related incidents. They're not too often though, the good ones. Natally, I would tend more to the exact Moon-Mercury sextile aspect in my chart than the wide Neptune-Mercury trine? Maybe the close Neptune-Asc trine adding a little to it rather?

My Mercury-neptune sextile is 2 degrees orb, and the pluto-neptune sextile is 3 degrees orb.

But I have 2 types of "psychic" experience, one when unconcious while dreaming and that kind and the other one during waking state. The one I have when Im awake I think is more telepathy pure, thoughts or visions.

When dreaming its more prophetic dreams. I think moon and neptune may be more responsible for this one?

You have sun (ruler of your ascendent?) square uranus. I think uranus and pluto contacts with important planets could be relevant. Or your venus opposite neptune?

Whats your mums chart like?

[gimzo23]

My Mercury-neptune sextile is 2 degrees orb, and the pluto-neptune sextile is 3 degrees orb.

But I have 2 types of "psychic" experience, one when unconcious while dreaming and that kind and the other one during waking state. The one I have when Im awake I think is more telepathy pure, thoughts or visions.

When dreaming its more prophetic dreams. I think moon and neptune may be more responsible for this one?

You have sun (ruler of your ascendent?) square uranus. I think uranus and pluto contacts with important planets could be relevant. Or your venus opposite neptune?

Whats your mums chart like?

I think that's a rather close sextile. I could imagine that sextile might be supportive, probably among other things, for giving you some of the gifts you seem to have. Prophetic dreams sounds quite amazing. I can relate more to the awake state telepathy/vision experiences. The closest to prophetic in a big event I've had involved an experience with the Challenger space shuttle explosion in the 80s. But that was in awake state, not dreaming about it in advance like you might have experiences with. I thought about Uranus with the square to my Sun and Asc, as for giving some flashes of insight or vision possibly.Maybe Uranus is playing a role in your chart as well, together with Neptune with your prophetic dreams?

My mother has a relative late Pisces Ascendant with her Virgo Moon directly on her DC, Sun in Sag in 9th house and Mars/North Node exactly conjunct on her 12th house cusp. I think those are the most notable things in her chart. Maybe I would have to look at the composite chart between mine and hers as well to find more in this matter. Though since it's only from me to her, it's probably more in my chart only.

[gimzo23]

I was reading that other psychic thread and liked this comment:



http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27457&postcount=39

I also think arts like Reiki are more related to Earth, didn't know about scrying.

Reading that thread, those who have experiences "seeing" or "feeling" presences otherworldly are mostly Water, but they are not saying that they have prophetic dreams, visions of the future or telepathy.

Ah Jupiter is connected with prophetic dreams as well. Didn't know that. Haven't heard the word scrying before either. I'll have to check that thread later, thanks for the link.

[astrologer50]

I was reading that other psychic thread and liked this comment:



http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27457&postcount=39

I also think arts like Reiki are more related to Earth, didn't know about scrying.

Reading that thread, those who have experiences "seeing" or "feeling" presences otherworldly are mostly Water, but they are not saying that they have prophetic dreams, visions of the future or telepathy.

the hands on healing art of seichem is channeled energy up from earth through the soles of the feet. Whereas Reiki and Shamballa are brought down through the crown chakra

[Vagabondgirl]

I think that's a rather close sextile. I could imagine that sextile might be supportive, probably among other things, for giving you some of the gifts you seem to have. Prophetic dreams sounds quite amazing. I can relate more to the awake state telepathy/vision experiences. The closest to prophetic in a big event I've had involved an experience with the Challenger space shuttle explosion in the 80s. But that was in awake state, not dreaming about it in advance like you might have experiences with. I thought about Uranus with the square to my Sun and Asc, as for giving some flashes of insight or vision possibly.Maybe Uranus is playing a role in your chart as well, together with Neptune with your prophetic dreams?

My mother has a relative late Pisces Ascendant with her Virgo Moon directly on her DC, Sun in Sag in 9th house and Mars/North Node exactly conjunct on her 12th house cusp. I think those are the most notable things in her chart. Maybe I would have to look at the composite chart between mine and hers as well to find more in this matter. Though since it's only from me to her, it's probably more in my chart only.

Hmmm. But maybe you have some connections to her moon? or your moon to some important planets of hers? But shes not feeling the same or? Strange that....Maybe we have a special inborn "bond" to our mothers usually. I could have some psychic prophetic experiences with my mum. I dreamt stuff she was going to tell me the same day or the next day, close to my dream. Much related to what her doctors and dentists told her. I have a prominent 6th house, so maybe thats why its about these cases.

[Vagabondgirl]

Yes, prophetic dreams I would relate more to Jupiter (if elements, I'd especially think of Fire).

My jupiter (in the 9th or 11th house???) is squaring my mercury/pluto conjunction. Moon trine jupiter (8orb) trine ASC.

[astrologer50]

My jupiter (in the 9th or 11th house???) is squaring my mercury/pluto conjunction. Moon trine jupiter (8orb) trine ASC.

Yeh that mercury square jupiter tends to overtalk when it needs to be quiet and undertalks when it should be talking, then conj pluto --capable of 'verbal lacerations' to :)

perhaps you should also research your mercury quincunx Asc :whistling:

Age 16 did anyone disappear or pass away or a relationships dissolve? SA Neptune conj MC. Age 20 did you travel, study or move house?

[Vagabondgirl]

Yeh that mercury square jupiter tends to overtalk when it needs to be quiet and undertalks when it should be talking, then conj pluto --capable of 'verbal lacerations' to :)

perhaps you should also research your mercury quincunx Asc :whistling:

Age 16 did anyone disappear or pass away or a relationships dissolve? SA Neptune conj MC. Age 20 did you travel, study or move house?

When I was 15-16 my stepfather died. My best friend changed school and we lost contact, grew apart.

20, hmmmm..... I moved several times btw 19-22. When I turned 22 I moved abroad to study, where I am right now:)

Verbal lacerations? What that?

I thought mercury-jupiter square meant I was wrong alot or something? I think I can be misunderstood often. People think Im wrong when I was right, just because I dont express it properly, or use the wrong words. Maybe....

I tried to check the ASC quincunx mercury yes. Cant remember what it said:biggrin: Ill check now!

[Vagabondgirl]

And after my stepfather died (15-16), I think I gained some kind of "psychic" ability. It was latent or absent before....

[astrologer50]

Verbal lacerations? What that?


to lacerate is to cut -- to verbally very very cutting, sharp incisive and quite nasty if needed

I thought mercury-jupiter square meant I was wrong alot or something? I think I can be misunderstood often. People think Im wrong when I was right, just because I dont express it properly, or use the wrong words. Maybe....
Jupiter is all about expansion, in air = communications

[Vagabondgirl]

Sometimes with authority....

Pluto doesnt help I guess:P

[gimzo23]

Hmmm. But maybe you have some connections to her moon? or your moon to some important planets of hers? But shes not feeling the same or? Strange that....Maybe we have a special inborn "bond" to our mothers usually. I could have some psychic prophetic experiences with my mum. I dreamt stuff she was going to tell me the same day or the next day, close to my dream. Much related to what her doctors and dentists told her. I have a prominent 6th house, so maybe thats why its about these cases.

No it's just from me to her with those experiences, but I think I'll take a look at our composite charts then. You seem to have some great gifts with those dreams. I find it always interesting to see where things like that might come from.

[Vagabondgirl]

Then maybe its something about your abilities and not hers? So maybe if you have neptune ( or uraunus, pluto) aspects with something representing your mum in the chart could indicate it. 4th house or moon?

[gimzo23]

Then maybe its something about your abilities and not hers? So maybe if you have neptune ( or uraunus, pluto) aspects with something representing your mum in the chart could indicate it. 4th house or moon?

I'm just looking at our composite charts, for the first time looking at a composite chart lol. If I'm seeing this right my Moon seems to be closely conjunct her Neptune/Saturn conjunction, and my Mercury is also closely conjunct her Pluto. Hmm, maybe that Moon/Neptune connection with her helps? I've just read a little through that other psychic thread, and the more I think about it the more I tend to my singleton angular Uranus in the 4th house aspecting the Sun and Asc as possibly playing a good factor with this too, even though it's intercepted, since most of the experiences with and without my mother have come like rather quick, sudden flashes of insight. Pluto seems to be connected with psychic experiences, too, as I've just read. Wouldn't have thought. It sextiles my Asc, maybe that adds a little too, who knows.

[Vagabondgirl]

Ah, ok. Her neptune conjunct your moon will probably create some psychic connection yes.

Ive read several times that mercury conjunct pluto has something psychic about it, and I have this aspect in my natal chart too.

Pluto is the planet of death, rebirth and maybe the other side? And it rules the 8th house that has something psychic over it. I think mercury-pluto conjunction has something to do with seeing though people, like reading thoughts and that kind. But maybe you need help from other aspects to increase it in power, like a touch of neptune:)

[astrologer50]

Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com (http://www.astro.com/) click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

[gimzo23]

Ah I see. That's interesting. There seems to be some kind of connection with her chart then. Yes, well actually there's the experiences of "thought reading", or picking up some kind of vibes or energy like that, as mundane as it may sound, and then there's the non-personal or thought related experiences, which aren't too noteworthy usually though. But it might be two different forces at work here possibly, I'm not sure. I would love to be able to have conscious access to these kind of energies though. That would be nice. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help here Vagabondgirl. I've learned something new with this.

[gimzo23]

Thanks Astrologer50. I figured it out on astro.com. But I indeed forgot there are some interpretations to it as well.... :lol:

[gimzo23]

OK I have a question here. Which is better to look at regarding this topic, the synastry chart between us or the composite chart? Wouldn't the synastry chart make more sense here, to see where her and my planets meet and how they might interact, like with the Neptune/Moon conjunction, while the composite seems to be more about relationship questions?