Signs of Health - Is Your Health Ruled By Your Star Sign?

[Arian Maverick]

I would like to share this intriguing astrological article I found from Vernon Coleman (http://www.vernoncoleman.com/astro.htm):

This Special Report gives general material and opinions for information only and is not to be considered an alternative to professional medical advice. Readers should consult their family doctors or other qualified medical advisers on any matter relating to their health and wellbeing.

SIGNS OF HEALTH
Is Your Health Ruled By Your Star Sign?

Does your astrological birth sign really have an influence on your health? Is someone born under Libra more likely to suffer from heart disease than someone born under Taurus? Are Aquarians more inclined to suffer from arthritis than Scorpios?

A lot of nonsense is written about the influence of astrological signs on our lives. And so in an attempt to get at the truth I have conducted a scientific study

You may find it difficult to understand why astrological signs should have any influence on health (or, indeed, on anything else). I readily admit that I find it difficult to understand why there should be any such link.

But the results obtained in this study seem to leave no room for doubt: your date of birth, and the astrological sign under which you were born, do seem to have a significant impact on the type of diseases to which you are most likely to be susceptible.

My conclusion is simple: the astrology-health link is a significant one which we can no longer ignore. You can use the information in this report in the same way that you can use other personal health information

RESULTS AT A GLANCE


Those born under Gemini seem to suffer more illnesses than anyone else.
Sagittarians seem to suffer less illness than anyone else.
Anxiety and depression seem commonest among those born under the signs of Cancer and Aries.
Individuals born under Capricorn and Libra seem more likely to suffer from bone and joint disorders such as arthritis.
Those born under Leo and Gemini seem more likely to suffer from heart disease or high blood pressure.
Asthma, bronchitis and other breathing difficulties seem commonest among those born under Taurus and Scorpio.
Scorpios seem more likely to suffer from kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis.
Those born under Pisces and Aries seem more likely to suffer from hair or skin conditions.
Ear, nose and throat problems seem commonest among those born under Taurus.
Obesity seems commonest among those born under Cancer.
Those born under Leo and Gemini seem most likely to suffer from cancer.
Blood disorders such as anaemia and leukaemia seem commonest among those born under Leo and Scorpio.
Individuals born under Scorpio or Libra seem most likely to suffer from hormone or endocrine problems such as diabetes or thyroid trouble.
Sexual problems seem commonest among those born under Gemini.
Liver and gall bladder problems seem commonest among those born under Aquarius.
Problems affecting the male organs (penis and testicles) seem commonest among those born under Virgo.
Problems affecting the female organs (uterus and ovaries) seem commonst among those born under Aries.
Chronic and recurrent infections seem commonest among those born under Aquarius.
Eye problems seem commonest among those born under Capricorn and Cancer.
Digestive problems such as ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome and indigestion seem commonest among those born under Libra, Cancer and Taurus.

WHAT ILLNESSES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR STAR SIGN?

Under this heading I have listed under each astrological sign the disorders linked with those signs. These disorders occur more often than average in the signs under which they are listed.

ARIES(7)


Anxiety and depression
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis or psoriasis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Female health problems (including those affecting the uterus and ovaries)
Sexual problems
Hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorders such as diabetes or thyroid problems
Eye problems

TAURUS(8)


Bone and joint disorders such as arthritis
Breathing problems such as asthma or bronchitis
Kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis
Female health problems (including those affecting the uterus and ovaries)
Blood disorders, including anaemia and leukaemia
Hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorders such as diabetes or thyroid problems
Digestive problems such as indigestion, ulcers or irritable bowel syndrome
Ear, nose and throat problems

GEMINI (12)


Anxiety and depression
Bone and joint disorders such as arthritis
Heart disease or high blood pressure
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis or psoriasis
Kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Female health problems (including those affecting the uterus and ovaries)
Sexual problems
Cancer
Blood disorders, including anaemia and leukaemia
Breast problems
Eye problems

CANCER (11)


Anxiety and depression
Breathing problems such as asthma or bronchitis
Kidney and bladder problems, such as cystitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Female health problems, including those affecting the uterus and ovaries
Male health problems, including those affecting the penis and testicles
Sexual problems
Nutritional problems such as obesity
Digestive problems such indigestion, ulcers and irritable bowel syndrome
Eye problems
Ear, nose and throat problems

LEO (10)


Anxiety and depression
Bone and joint problems such as athritis
Heart disease or high blood pressure
Breathing problems such as asthma or bronchitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Female health problems, including those affecting the uterus and ovaries
Male health problems, including those affecting the penis and testicles
Cancer
Blood disorders, including anaemia and leukaemia
Breathing problems such as asthma and bronchitis

VIRGO (7)


Heart disease or high blood pressure
Breathing problems such as asthma and bronchitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Male health problems, including those affecting the penis and testicles
Cancer
Liver and gall bladder problems
Digestive problems such as indigestion, ulcers and irritable bowel syndrome

LIBRA (8)


Bone and joint problems such as arthritis
Heart disease or high blood pressure
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis or psoriasis
Kidney and bladder problems, such as cystitis
Hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorders such as diabetes or thyroid problems
Liver and gall bladder problems
Digestive problems such as indigestion, ulcers and irritable bowel syndrome
Breast problems

SCORPIO (10)


Heart or high blood pressure
Breathing problems such as asthma or bronchitis
Kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Sex problems
Blood disorders, such as anaemia and leukaemia
Hormone, endocrine and metabolic problems such as diabeties and thyroid problems
Breast problems
Eye disorders
Ear, nose and throat problems

SAGITTARIUS(6)


Anxiety and depression
Sex problems
Cancer
Nutritional problems such as obesity
Digestive problems such as ulcers, indigestion and irritable bowel syndrome
Breast problems

CAPRICORN(8)


Bone and joint disorders such as arthritis
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis and psoriasis
Male health problems, including those affecting the penis and testicles
Blood disorders including anaemia and leukaemia
Nutritional problems such as obesity
Liver and gall bladder problems
Eye problems
Ear, nose and throat problems

AQUARIUS (9)


Bone and joint problems such as athritis
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis and psoriasis
Kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis
Neurological problems such as epilepsy
Cancer
Infefectious diseases
Nutritional problems such as obesity
Liver and gall bladder problems
Ear, nose and throat problems

PISCES(10)


Anxiety and depression
Hair and skin problems such as eczema, dermatitis and psoriasis
Kidney and bladder problems such as cystitis
Sex problems
Infectious diseases
Hormone, endocrine or metabolic problems such as diabetes and thyroid problems
Nutritional problems
Liver and gall bladder problems
Digestive problems such as ulcers, indigestion and irritable bowel syndrome
Ear, nose and throat problems

Arian Maverick

[Arian Maverick]

This is a continuation of my previous post:

THE SICKEST AND HE HEALTHIEST

For the purpose of this survey I collected information about symptoms in 20 different categories:


anxiety and/or depression
bone or joint problems (such as arthritis, rheumatism)
heart disease/high blood pressure
breathing problems (such as asthma, bronchitis)
hair or skin problems (such as eczema, dermatitis, psoriasis)
kidney or urinary problems (such as cystitis)
neurological problems (such as epilepsy
female disorders (affecting the womb or ovaries)
male disorders (affecting the penis or testicles)
sexual problems (such as impotence, or unusually high or low libido
cancer
infectious diseases (chronic, recurrent or frequent infections)
blood disorders (such as anaemia or leukaemia)
hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorders (such as diabetes or thyroid disease
nutritional problems (such as obesity, anorexia, vitamin defiency)
liver and gall bladder disease (such as hepatitis and gall stones
digestive problems (such as indigestion, ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome
breast problems
eye problems
ear, nose and throat problems

The average respondent in this survey complained of having (or having had) suffered from diseases in 4.48 of these categories.

The following list shows where each of the 12 star signs stand in relation to one another with regard to the average number of disorders complained about.

Although all 12 signs are relatively close to one another, there is absolutely no doubt from these results that Sagittarians seem to suffer from far fewer different diseases than individuals under any other star signs. Equally, there is no doubt that those born under Scorpio and Gemini seem, on average, to suffer most.

This table lists the average number of types of illnesses (out of a possible 20) suffered by individuals born under the twelve different star signs.

Do not despair if you find that your star sign is one which seems to be associated with a wide variety of types of ill health. Remember that knowing your susceptibilities can help you protect yourself and improve your health.

Less diseases than average:

1. Sagittarius 3.85
2. Virgo 4.10
3. Capricorn 4.26
4. Pisces 4.47

Average:[/I]

5. Aries 4.48
6. Libra 4.48

[I]More diseases than average:

7. Aquarius 4.52
8. Leo 4.62
9. Taurus 4.63
10. Cancer 4.64
11. Gemini 4.78
12 Scorpio 4.96

YOUR STAR SIGN AND YOUR HEALTH: THE COMPLETE RESULTS

The figures on the following tables show the likelihood of an individual born under each star sign suffering from the condition named. For example, an individual born under the star sign of Cancer will have a 69% chance of suffering from anxiety and/or depression in his or her lifetime.

It is important to remember that these figures should not be taken as meaning that anyone has immunity to a particular type of illness. Everyone is susceptible to every disease (with obvious gender limitations

What the research does show, however, is that there are links between star signs and an extra susceptibility to some specific disorders. And this information can be useful

Please note that these figures are rather lower than the normal figures for the lifetime incidence of specific diseases. For example, the incidence of cancer is now generally regarded as one in three. In other words one in three individuals will develop cancer (though they will not necessarily die of it). The figures here are lower than this because the people taking part in this survey were, inevitably, only part of the way through their lives. Most illnesses develop in the last few decades of life.

Anxiety and /or depression.

Those born under the star signs of Cancer and Aries seem to be significantly more likely to suffer from anxiety and/or depression while those born under the star signs of Capricorn, Virgo and Aquarius seem significantly less likely than average to suffer from problems of this type.

The average risk level is 59%. This means that those born under the sign Libra have an average chance of developing anxiety or depression. Those above Libra on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing anxiety or depression. Those below Libra on this list have a lower than average chance of developing anxiety or depression.


Cancer 69%
Aries 67%
Leo 62%
Pisces 62%
Gemini 61%
Sagittarius 61%
Libra 59%
Taurus 57%
Scorpio 54%
Capricorn 52%
Virgo 52%
Aquarius 38%

Bone or joint problems

Those born under the star signs Capricorn, Libra and Taurus all seem to have a significantly enhanced risk of suffering from bone or joint problems. In contrast those born under the star signs Aries, Virgo and Cancer seem to have a lower than average risk of suffering from disorders such as arthritis and rheumatism.

The average risk level is 61%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing bone or joint problems. Those below 61% on this list have a lower than average chance of developing bone or joint problems.


Capricorn 74%
Libra 74%
Taurus 70%
Leo 65%
Gemini 64%
Aquarius 62%
Pisces 60%
Scorpio 58%
Sagittarius 57%
Aries 55%
Virgo 55%
Cancer 45%

Heart disease/high blood pressure

It seems from these results that individuals born under the star signs Leo, Gemini, Virgo, Libra and Scorpio may need to take particular care to protect themselves against heart and blood pressure problems. It seems that individuals least likely to suffer from problems of this type are those born under Pisces, Aries, Capricorn and Sagittarius.

The average risk level is 33%. This means that those born under the signs Taurus and Aquarius have an average chance of developing heart disease or high blood pressure problems. Those above Taurus and Aquarius on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing heart disease or high blood pressure or similar problems. Those below Taurus and Aquarius on this list have a lower than average chance of developing heart disease, high blood pressure or a similar problem.


Leo 46%
Gemini 43%
Virgo 39%
Libra 37%
Scorpio 37%
Aquarius 33%
Taurus 33%
Cancer 29%
Pisces 27%
Aries 26%
Capricorn 26%
Sagittarius 24%

Breathing problems (asthma, bronchitis etc)

Those born under the star signs Taurus, Scorpio, Leo and Cancer all seem to be exposed to an unusually high risk of developing a problem of this type. On the other hand those born under Aries, Capricorn, Libra and Sagittarius seem less likely to be affected by breathing problems.

The average risk level is 27%. This means that those born under the sign Pisces have an average chance of developing asthma, bronchitis or another type of breathing problem. Those above Pisces on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a breathing problem. Those below Pisces on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a breathing problem.


Taurus 37%
Scorpio 37%
Leo 35%
Cancer 33%
Virgo 29%
Pisces 27%
Gemini 25%
Aquarius 24%
Aries 22%
Capricorn 18%
Libra 18%
Sagittarius 18%

Hair or skin problems

Those born under Pisces, Aries, Libra, Aquarius and Gemini all seem to have an enhanced chance of suffering from a hair or skin problem. In contrast those born under Sagittarius, Scorpio, Virgo and Taurus all seem to have a reduced risk of suffering from a hair or skin problem.

The average risk level is 24%. This means that those born under the signs Leo and Cancer have an average chance of developing a hair or skin problem - such as eczema, dermatitis or psoriasis. Thos above Leo and Cancer on this list have a greater than average chance of developing a hair or skin problem. Those below Leo and Cancer on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a hair or skin problem.


Pisces 35%
Aries 33%
Libra 30%
Aquarius 29%
Gemini 28%
Capricorn 26%
Cancer 24%
Leo 24%
Sagittarius 21%
Virgo 19%
Scorpio 12%
Taurus 10%

Kidney or urinary problems

Those born under Scorpio, Aquarius, Taurus and Gemini all appear to have an increased risk of suffering from kidney or urinary problems. Those born under Leo, Virgo, Aries, Capricorn and Sagittarius appear to have a reduced risk of suffering from kidney or urinary problems. Those born under Leo should be aware that the low level of risk which seems to be associated with this sign should not be misinterpreted as meaning that there is no risk at all.

The average risk level is 24%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a kidney or bladder problem. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a bladder or kidney problem.


Scorpio 46%
Aquarius 38%
Taurus 33%
Gemini 32%
Cancer 26%
Libra 26%
Pisces 25%
Virgo 19%
Aries 18%
Capricorn 18%
Sagittarius 18%
Leo 0%

Arian Maverick

[Arian Maverick]

What can I say? It's a long article! :D

Neurological Problems

Those born under Aquarius, Scorpio, Aries, Gemini , Leo and Capricorn all seem to have an increased risk of suffering from neurological problems. Those born under Libra, Pisces and Taurus all seem to have a lower risk of suffering from neurological problems. (This should not be misinterpreted as a zero risk.)

The average risk level is 4%. This means that those born under the sign Capricorn have an average chance of developing a neurological problem such as epilepsy. Those above Capricorn on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a neurological problem. Those below Capricorn on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a neurological problem.


Aquarius 9%
Scorpio 8%
Aries 7%
Gemini 7%
Leo 7%
Virgo 6%
Cancer 5%
Capricorn 4%
Leo 3%
Libra 0%
Pisces 0%
Taurus 0%

Female disorders

Women born under Aries, Gemini, Taurus and Cancer seem to have an increased risk of suffering from a problem involving the womb or ovaries whereas women born under Aquarius, Pisces, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Libra, Virgo and Capricorn seem to have a lower risk of these problems.

The average risk level is 17%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a disorder of the womb or ovaries. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a disorder of this type.


Aries 44%
Gemini 29%
Taurus 23%
Cancer 21%
Leo 19%
Aquarius 14%
Pisces 12%
Sagittarius 12%
Scorpio 12%
Libra 11%
Virgo 6%
Capricorn 4%

Male disorders

Men born under Virgo, Leo and Capricorn seem to have an increased chance of suffering from a disorder involving the penis or testicles. Men born under Pisces, Aquarius, Aries and Libra seem to have a less than average chance of suffering from a problem of this type.

The average risk level is 4%. This means that those born under the signs Gemini or Scorpio have an average chance of developing a male disorder affecting the penis or testicles. Those above Gemini and Scorpio on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a problem of this type. Those below Gemini and Scorpio on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a male disorder affecting the penis or testicles.


Virgo 13%
Leo 8%
Capricorn 7%
Cancer 5%
Gemini 4%
Scorpio 4%
Taurus 3%
Sagittarius 3%
Pisces 2%
Aquarius 0%
Aries 0%
Libra 0%

Sexual problems

These results suggest that those born under Gemini, Pisces, Scorpio and Aries may have an increased risk of suffering from a sexual problem. The results also suggest that those born under Aquarius, Capricorn and Libra may have a lower than average risk of suffering from this type of problem.

The average risk level is 11%. This means that those born under the sign Leo have an average chance of developing a sexual problem. Those above Leo on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a sexual problem. Those below Leo on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a sexual problem.


Gemini 21%
Pisces 17%
Scorpio 17%
Aries 15%
Cancer 12%
Sagittarius 12%
Leo 11%
Taurus 10%
Virgo 10%
Aquarius 5%
Capricorn 4%
Libra 4%

Cancer

The results suggest that individuals born under Leo, Gemini and Virgo may have an increased chance of suffering from cancer while those born under Pisces, Scorpio, Capricorn and Cancer may have a reduced risk of contracting a cancer.

The average risk level is 8%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing cancer. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing cancer.


Leo 16%
Gemini 14%
Virgo 10%
Aquarius 9%
Sagittarius 9%
Aries 7%
Libra 7%
Taurus 7%
Cancer 5%
Capricorn 4%
Scorpio 4%
Pisces 2%

Infectious diseases

Those born under Aquarius or Pisces seem more likely to suffer from a problematic infectious disease. By contrast those born under Capricorn , Libra, Sagittarius, Taurus, Virgo, Aries and Cancer seem likely to have a lower than average risk of suffering from an infectious disease.

The average risk level is 8%. This means that those born under the signs Scorpio and Leo have an average chance of suffering from chronic, recurring or frequent infectious diseases. Those above Scorpio and Leo on this list have a greater than an average chance of acquiring a troublesome infection or series of infections. Those below Scorpio and Leo on this list have a lower than average chance of developing this type of problem.


Aquarius 14%
Pisces 10%
Leo 8%
Scorpio 8%
Gemini 7%
Capricorn 4%
Libra 4%
Sagittarius 3%
Taurus 3%
Virgo 3%
Aries 0%
Cancer 0%

Blood disorders

Those born under Leo, Scorpio, Capricorn , Gemini and Taurus may have an increased chance of suffering from a blood disorder (including anaemia and leukaemia).

Those born under Sagittarius, Pisces and Virgo (and, to a lesser extent, Aquarius and Cancer) seem less likely to suffer from a blood disorder.

The average risk level is 11%. This means that those born under the signs Aries and Libra have an average chance of developing a blood disorder. Those above Aries and Libra on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a blood disorder. Those below Aries and Libra on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a blood disorder.


Leo 22%
Scorpio 21%
Capricorn 15%
Gemini 14%
Taurus 13%
Aries 11%
Libra 11%
Aquarius 9%
Cancer 9%
Virgo 6%
Pisces 5%
Sagittarius 3%

Arian Maverick

[Arian Maverick]

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Hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorder

Those born under Scorpio, Libra, Aries and Taurus may have an increased chance of suffering from problems of this type. It seems that those born under Aquarius, Gemini, Capricorn, Leo, Virgo, Cancer and Sagittarius may be likely to have a reduced chance of suffering from problems of this type.

The average risk level is 16%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorder. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a hormone, endocrine or metabolic disorder, such as diabetes or thyroid disease.


Scorpio 33%
Libra 29%
Aries 22%
Taurus 20%
Pisces 17%
Aquarius 14%
Gemini 14%
Capricorn 11%
Leo 11%
Virgo 10%
Cancer 9%
Sagittarius 6%

Nutritional problems

Those born under the star signs of Cancer, Aquarius, Capricorn, Sagittarius and Pisces may have a higher than average risk of suffering from a nutritional problem (including obesity, anorexia, vitamin deficiency). Those born under Leo , Gemini ,Taurus ,Aries, Libra and Scorpio seem less likely to suffer from a nutritional problem.

The average risk level is 15%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a nutritional problem. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a nutritional problem.


Cancer 29%
Aquarius 24%
Capricorn 22%
Sagittarius 18%
Pisces 17%
Leo 13%
Gemini 11%
Taurus 10%
Aries 7%
Libra 4%
Scorpio 4%

Liver/Gall bladder disease

Those born under Aquarius, Virgo and Pisces seem most likely to suffer from problems of this type (which include hepatitis, gall stones).

Those born under Sagittarius, Leo, Aries, Gemini and Scorpio all seem less likely to suffer in this way.

The average risk level is 10%. This means that those born under the sign Taurus have an average chance of developing a liver or gall bladder problem. Those above Taurus on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a liver or gall bladder problem. Those below Taurus on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a liver or gall bladder problem.


Aquarius 24%
Virgo 13%
Pisces 12%
Capricorn 11%
Libra 11%
Taurus 10%
Cancer 9%
Sagittarius 9%
Leo 8%
Aries 7%
Gemini 7%
Scorpio 4%

Digestive problems

Those born under Libra, Cancer, Taurus and Sagittarius all seem more likely to suffer from problems of this type. (which include indigestion, ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome etc)Those born under Leo, Capricorn, Scorpio, Aquarius and Gemini all seem less likely to suffer from diseases in this category.

The average risk level is 44%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a digestive problem. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a digestive problem.


Libra 52%
Cancer 50%
Taurus 50%
Sagittarius 48%
Pisces 47%
Virgo 45%
Aries 41%
Leo 40%
Capricorn 37%
Scorpio 37%
Aquarius 33%
Gemini 32%

Breast problems

Those born under Scorpio, Leo, Gemini and Libra all seem most likely to suffer from breast problems. Least likely to suffer from problems of this type appear to be those born under Virgo, Aquarius, Cancer, Aries, Pisces and Taurus.

The average risk level is 8%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a breast problem. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing a breast problem.


Scorpio 17%
Leo 16%
Gemini 14%
Libra 11%
Sagittarius 9%
Capricorn 7%
Virgo 6%
Aquarius 5%
Cancer 5%
Aries 4%
Pisces 2%
Taurus 0%

Eye problems

Those born under Capricorn, Cancer and Scorpio seem most likely to suffer from eye problems. Those born under Aquarius, Taurus, Leo and Pisces seem least likely to suffer from eye problems.

The average risk level is 28%. Those above this level on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing an eye problem. Those below this level on this list have a lower than average chance of developing an eye problem.


Capricorn 37%
Cancer 36%
Scorpio 33%
Aries 30%
Gemini 29%
Sagittarius 27%
Libra 26%
Virgo 26%
Aquarius 24%
Taurus 23%
Leo 22%
Pisces 22%

Ear, nose and throat problems

Those born under Taurus, Scorpio, Capricorn, Aquarius, Cancer and Pisces seem most likely to suffer from ear, nose or throat problems. Those born under Virgo, Gemini and Sagittarius seem least likely to suffer from problems of this type.

The average risk level is 33%. This means that those born under the sign Libra have an average chance of developing an ear, nose or throat problem. Those above Libra on this list have a greater than an average chance of developing a problem of this type. Those below Libra on this list have a lower than average chance of developing an ear, nose, or throat problem.


Taurus 53%
Scorpio 42%
Capricorn 44%
Aquarius 43%
Cancer 43%
Pisces 40%
Libra 33%
Leo 32
Aries 30%
Virgo 29%
Gemini 21%
Sagittarius 18%

CONCLUSION

To be aware of your susceptibilities is to increase your chances of survival. If you have a family history of heart disease or diabetes then you would be foolish not to take very special care to make sure that you do not expose yourself unnecessarily to external factors which might increase your chances of suffering from that problem. If you have a family history of diabetes then you would be wise to watch your diet carefully, to avoid becoming overweight and to have regular check ups for early signs of developing diabetes.

The information produced by this research should be used in a similar way. So, for example, if your star sign shows that you are unusually susceptible to digestive problems then you should take special care to avoid that type of problem.

About this survey

This study is based on 1,643 separate pieces of information supplied by 367 respondents in the autumn of 1999. I hope that the results will encourage other researchers to continue the work begun with this paper.

Arian Maverick

[23]

Your stats are incredibly interesting.

I am a life long sufferer of eczema, but I would say it is rather mild compared to others. I have Aqu sun but I also have mars in gemini, opposed neptune.

Skin issues of pisceans - probably some affliction to their ruler of neptune or sun.

Aqu's nutritional probs is probably caused by the erratic nature of their personalities and maybe even a personal neglect. Again, infectious diseases, just cos we are wierd :P :)

But since then, I have not had any problems with ENT issues.

Also what about circulation issues? When it is too cold, I can't feel my toes. Surely this is an Aqu thing.

I notice in general, those of mutable signs have least disease and fixed, the most. Is it how it is taken by the person?

Heart disease is in leo is probably caused by the fact that leo rules the heart and there is some afflication. Probably caused by an outrageous partying lifestyle they lead. I have noticed that a lot of leos that I know smoke and drink.

Sag is healthy probably because it is ruled by Jupiter. Cap becuase it rules bones has probably has bone probs if there is a sun or sat affliction. Maybe taurean asthma has something to do with its square with Aqu, an air sign.

[Arian Maverick]

I am intrigued by Aries' inclination towards anxiety and depression, especially since these are not generally traits associated with this sign...

Arian Maverick

[23]

I am intrigued by Aries' inclination towards anxiety and depression, especially since these are not generally traits associated with this sign...

Arian Maverick

Well I think a lot of it has to do with more than a person's sun sign. Since both anxiety and depression are mental health issues, and this kind of falls within the piscean world, I would say a lot of these Arians have something from their neighbouring pisces in them; maybe an afflicted piscean mercury of something.

[Arian Maverick]

Well I think a lot of it has to do with more than a person's sun sign.

I agree; I wish this study involved other planetary influences as well!

Since both anxiety and depression are mental health issues, and this kind of falls within the piscean world, I would say a lot of these Arians have something from their neighbouring pisces in them; maybe an afflicted piscean mercury of something.

With the exception of my Pisces North Node, which I consider to be more of an indication of what one must strive for rather than a natural component of one's personality, I have no Pisces influence in my natal chart; indeed, my only water placement is the generational influence of Pluto in Scorpio. Therefore, unless one utilizes the sidereal zodiac, I am devoid of an energy many spiritual persons hold in greatest esteem--sensitivity, emotional depth, and many other characteristics indicative of an enlightened society. If only those primitive fire signs were capable of complex emotions and could transcend their own anger, jealousy, and lust!

For months I have meticulously combed through my natal chart, searching for indications that may explain my considerable sensitivity and inclination towards both anxiety and depression. Like many other astrologers and astrology enthusiasts, I immediately dismissed Aries as the origin of these mental health issues; Aries is an uncomplicated sign, so surely any of its innate difficulties would be uncomplicated as well!

Perhaps I am simply ranting, yet I believe my identity has more facets than modern astrology can explain...

Arian Maverick

[Lynns]

The sagittarians I know have never been really depressed. They have a buoyant optimism ...

..But Librans afaik, are very prone to depression, basically because they are such people pleasers and their sense of harmony is always undergoing distortion.

..Scorpios, being the extremists of the signs, can fall really deep into depression.

I think as was mentioned, it goes beyond general sun signs, even though alluding ailments to a sign is the basis of symbolism anyway.

...especially if one has a stellium, the intensity of their nature would tend towards brooding and depression.

[Arian Maverick]

...especially if one has a stellium, the intensity of their nature would tend towards brooding and depression.

What if an individual has two stelliums that form a series of hard aspects to each other?

Arian Maverick

[Lynns]

Hi Arian Maverick,
I think the traits as mentioned then would be increased. I recently talked to someone who said that stelliums give rise to complex and intense natures, so I guess two would have a greater effect than one, and the hard aspects mean there are more thigs to be resolved.
(A conjuction is also a hard aspect for many sources, thus stelliums are super hard aspects).

[Maries]

It surprises me that Aries and Cancer suffer the most from depression. I would have bet Capricorns were the ones to suffer from depression!

Maries

[Lissa]

Very interesting article,even though I must say I haven't read it all,the article is just huge and I have the atention spam of a bean!!!Blame the Mars in Gemini!!!

I wholeheartdly agree with 23,this things go beyond Sun signs-there should be a study like this but for other chart factors.

Yes,I would never associate Aries with depression-with anxiety,yes,Aries have that urge to get what they want,when they want and how they want it.So maybe the anxiety is generated because Aries' wants a lot of things-but can't get it all and even if they can't,waiting for what they desire gets them extremely frustrated.

As for the depression-I can't imagine restless,impulsive Aries lying in bed crying all day.What strikes me about this is that Aries does rule the head-but not the brain.Or does Aries rule the brain?

[Arian Maverick]

As for the depression-I can't imagine restless,impulsive Aries lying in bed crying all day.What strikes me about this is that Aries does rule the head-but not the brain.Or does Aries rule the brain?

I've read a quote somewhere that the seeds of depression die a quick death in Arian soil, and I would tend to agree with this statement unless there is a strong Saturn/Capricorn influence present in the chart or the chart ruler Mars is located in a water sign, where it may express itself in a matter quite different from that associated with Aries and other fire signs.

I've also read, I believe from the same source, that depression is anger turned inwards, and I believe many of us are familiar with Aries' legendary anger. It is also a very individually-oriented sign, so the above definition would describe Aries quite well, in my opinion.

Yes,I would never associate Aries with depression-with anxiety,yes,Aries have that urge to get what they want,when they want and how they want it.So maybe the anxiety is generated because Aries' wants a lot of things-but can't get it all and even if they can't,waiting for what they desire gets them extremely frustrated.

Aries' tendency towards anxiety didn't surprise me either, but as for its possible connection with depression, I know from personal experience that prolonged anxiety can trigger depression, although it seems farther along the natural progression of psychological disorders for this sign.

Here's an amusing, tongue-in-cheek idea that just occurred to me: Perhaps Arians become depressed when the world doesn't cater immediately to their needs! We do tend to be an impatient lot, and beneath the outer layers of confidence and boldness lies great insecurity.

Arian Maverick

[Lissa]

I've read a quote somewhere that the seeds of depression die a quick death in Arian soil, and I would tend to agree with this statement unless there is a strong Saturn/Capricorn influence present in the chart or the chart ruler Mars is located in a water sign, where it may express itself in a matter quite different from that associated with Aries and other fire signs.

I've also read, I believe from the same source, that depression is anger turned inwards, and I believe many of us are familiar with Aries' legendary anger. It is also a very individually-oriented sign, so the above definition would describe Aries quite well, in my opinion.

I read those quotes too,I believe someone on this forum said them somewhere.

Aries' tendency towards anxiety didn't surprise me either, but as for its possible connection with depression, I know from personal experience that prolonged anxiety can trigger depression, although it seems farther along the natural progression of psychological disorders for this sign.

You're probably right-maybe Aries de pression has to do with acumulated anxiety.On the other hand,Aries are not too good dealing wiht their feelings,are they-when life throws bad things at them they try to keep away their pain and move on,until it all builds up and explodes.

It's funny-Pisceans have a hard time dealing with their egos,Arians have a hard time dealing with their hearts.

I would never think of Cancer for anxiety as well-I may be wrong but I've always regarded anxiety as an urge for something,and I've seen Cancer as very melancholic and focused on the past.

Oh well-medical astrology is still a msytery to me:eek:!

[tsquare]

Aries is really goal oriented as well as cancer. If there are two signs that are complete opposite as far as flows go cancer and aries are it. cancer inflow emotion. Aries outflow emotion. Any flow that goes too far in one direction for too long leads to a reverse flow. They are both doers. Mabie it's goal oriented problems that lead to depression. Like creating goals that one can not achieve in a short span of time. Earth signs I believe are often too unconcious to really pay too much attention too themselves some times. Like they can be negative and it doesn't really bother them too much, they just plow onward. you can often crack a joke about a capricorn and they will heartily laugh at themselves, you cant always do this with a cancer or aries. Capricorn is an outflow of sorts somewhat, and they are goal oriented as well, but the flow doesn't directly come from self Like in aries or Leo. Capricorns do have a tendency for peccimism, but that isn't really depression. Capricorns don't usually put allot of attention on emotions. Mabie this is more the tendency towards arthritis and such. They just keep plowing on through life, doing their duty, whatever that is. It does seem that capricorn's do have the strange manifestaition of reaching out into the society that they are in and society compels them to do their job. My brother has something like 5 or 6 planets in capricorn including saturn, he's 16 and he can crack his nuckles by just closing his fist. He has quite a few other joint problems as well. yet they really don't bother him yet, I get the idea they will later on though.

[Lissa]

Aries is really goal oriented as well as cancer. If there are two signs that are complete opposite as far as flows go cancer and aries are it. cancer inflow emotion. Aries outflow emotion. Any flow that goes too far in one direction for too long leads to a reverse flow. They are both doers. Mabie it's goal oriented problems that lead to depression. Like creating goals that one can not achieve in a short span of time.

Thank you for explaining Tsquare,that actually makes sense.I think I get it now.

Thank you,
Lissa

[tsquare]

I found this sight a while ago and I have always found the diagrams of the signs that this researcher has come up with interesting, read it with a grain of salt though. He has a whole sight of interesting information but it may not be for everyone. One doesn't have to agree with all of his views to find some of the information interesting.

Here is the link:
http://www.censorthis.com/ouran/GD16.html

[sageofaquarius]

Interesting survey, beloved Moderator.

Under Nutritional Problems, the percentage value for Virgo has been omitted (thought I'd get that in before Draco did). :rolleyes:

Interesting to note that the four fixed signs all occur in the More Diseases Than Average section.

Further research might consider whether there are differences in recuperation times between the signs.

[Arianedreams]

I've read a quote somewhere that the seeds of depression die a quick death in Arian soil, and I would tend to agree with this statement unless there is a strong Saturn/Capricorn influence present in the chart or the chart ruler Mars is located in a water sign, where it may express itself in a matter quite different from that associated with Aries and other fire signs.

Arian Maverick

I would agree with this strongly. I'm an Aries with a Cancer Moon and Pisces Mercury (sq Saturn) and I have always blamed those wimpy 'low' moments on my oversensitive Moon and negative self-defeating thoughts on my afflicted dreamy Mercury. I've always been thankful that my impatient Sun doesn't have the stomach for being 'down' for too long and kicks my butt back out there with renewed (if not overly though-out) optimism.

[proluna8]

Dear Arian Maverick, I hate the fact that this poor little egg had the regent of its ascendant in opposition to the Asc. itself!!! and the poor siblings watching there!!! (very tragic, hahaha).

OK, for the topic: you really took some time reading all that and posting it. Besides the fact of respecting Mr. Coleman for writing and conducting the statistics (something I wouldn't have the patience to do), I deeply disagree with his approach to astrology in the first place.

We all know that there are not two equal charts, even if you consider the lapse of 24,700 years or so for the "realignment" of planets to their original position, the galaxy itself would not be the same then... so, if two twins have very different lifes and experiences and if we consider the magnitude of these mathematical combinations, it makes no sense to put every person in the planet in just one out of twelve categories!!!

I think it's very "Roman astrology" and we all know not a single Aries is even closer to similar to the next one. (Imagine hospitals including "zodiacal sign" in their entry forms!!!)

Also, those statistics show very little difference, in some cases, between signs regarding one particular sympton. It reminded me of Gauquelin and his "cosmic clocks" conducting statistics that showed exactly the opposite thing from what he wanted to prove.

If you consider an aries with a moon in conjunction with his sun: is it dicreasing or not? it's going to make a world of difference (leaving aside the fact that one of them is going to kill the kid almost inmediately) Now, please indulge me and put that same moon in a trigon to that sun, in a square? whatever... how does that arian person feel during his whole life?

What if his saturn is in some specific position and the poor fellow suffers a chronic disease for years, in pain and with no hope at all? how does he feel?

On the other hand, give him some nice aspects for his moon and mercury, his mars in domicile in a trigon to saturn in the midheaven in sagitarius in the 9th house (which will give him just some muscular pains) this person is not going to understand the meaning of the word "depresion" and I ask: do we know how many arians have these kinds of aspects? (probably many thousands)

I am also thinking of a good mars (also in domicile) in a sun-moon opposition chart (besides the fact of not being very good at socializing, not a big problem for many), I can imagine an extremely successful person who copes with hundreds of problems and succeeds every time (at whatever it is), perhaps not the happiest one but deppresion is a forbidden word for this dude.

Show me one chart where saturn and venus are connected in any possible way, then tell me about all the stories this person is going to tell you about his love life (couple, children, friends?) Very sad or at least, hard to live with.
No matter what the solar sign is.

Or give me a moon in Capricorn or a moon connected to saturn by conjunction, oppostion or square... there are so many possibilities to have a deppressed person regardless his sun sign...

Again, let us imagine a bad sun in house one and some difficult collocations in the chart of a (say) killer? He goes to jail in the worst imaginable conditions with a thirty year sentence. Two years later, when his excellent neptune in house twelve goes over his natal sun (imagine some twenty years after his birthday) and the guy tells you: "I discovered the existence of God!!!" and he spends the rest of his life in prison learning teology and helping others and so on and so forth... he will go out of prison and he will devote the rest of his life to some religious activities in a church. I can assure you it doesn't matter what sign he is, he is going to have a happy life, because that good neptune in transit over his sun is going to change him forever.

Which brings me back to Mr. Coleman and my question now is: when is that aries going to suffer from depression? at what age? didn't Mr. Coleman consider transits and the theory of ages and NLP?

I don't want to bother you all with my sometimes rambling speech and I want to make it clear that I am not criticising you Arian Maverick, far from that. I just wanted to call some attention to the enormous value of each separated natal chart regardless the solar sign. I don't like the idea of overgeneralising in any aspect of human life.

All the best to all, Adriana

[Astrocurious]

Very interesting article,even though I must say I haven't read it all,the article is just huge and I have the atention spam of a bean!!!Blame the Mars in Gemini!!!
Hahahaha, this made me laugh, I agree with you here thanks to Mars in Gemini(and I haven't read it all either thinking the same thing!):p I HATE it sometimes(having a short attention span).:60:

[Pisceanfool]

Wow that was pretty interesting, i've read that all medical personnel were at one time required to know basic astrology. Welcome to the age of doubt...

[PYXIS]

Wow that was pretty interesting, i've read that all medical personnel were at one time required to know basic astrology. Welcome to the age of doubt...




PF- the Einstein quote u have posted fascinates me, somewhat.
Imagination is certainly the ultimate ...I agree...but perhaps our knowledge facilitates our imagination...?
Einstein had his Moon/Aquarius..i believe..
I have always thot of Aquarius as the sign of profound imagination and genius.

[Pisceanfool]

He had a sag moon, jupiter and the NN are the only points in aqua. This is off topic PM if you wish.

[autumnleaf]

I love this place!! No matter where I go I find so much useful information!! Can I just move in and set up shop? hehehe
I'm printing this up as we speak.

I'm curious, though. I have a stellium in H1 (scorp), and I have had issues with those things that this article says is most common in Aries. Could that be because of Aries' natural rule over H1?

That part about Gem's always being sick holds sooo true for my sister. Anyone with a cold can just look at her and she gets sick! her Sagi moon does nothing to help her in that department. Poor thing!

[Arian Maverick]

This seems like a strong possibility to me, but I believe a stronger possibility would be that the signs Scorpio and Aries are both ruled by Mars, and thus, natives of both signs may suffer from Mars-type afflictions.

I believe this small study only took Sun signs into consideration, but oddly enough, quite a few of the ancient rulers of certain parts of the body corresponded with the signs who experienced the greatest chance of acquiring a certain illness.

If you wish to learn more about these astrological-bodily connections, I recommend that you browse through the Skyscript (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/) pages; you will see a small grid of boxes with numbers under House meanings: near the upper left corner of the main page, directly beneath the text box that enables you to Search this site:.

If you visit the House Rulerships in Practice - the First House (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html) and scroll down to Medical (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html#medical)--or simply click the link at the top of the page to be brought directly there--you will find the following description:

In Medical Matters:
The head and face: eyes, ears, mouth, hair, nose, tongue, teeth; Culpeper notes: "whatsoever is above the first vertebra of the neck".
Saturn, Mars or the north node in this house denote a blemish in the face, or in the part of the body represented by the sign on the cusp; Lilly notes: "as if Aries be in the ascendant, the mark, mole, or scar is without fail in the head or face; and if few degrees of the sign ascend, the mark is in the upper part of the head; if the middle of the sign be on the cusp, the mole, mark or scar is in the middle of the face, or near it; if the later degrees ascend, the face is blemished near the chin, towards the neck." ([CA] p.51)
In decumbiture charts the 1st house represents the patient and the condition of its ruler shows the strength of their vitality, as opposed to the 6th house ruler which represents the disease. If the 1st house ruler is stronger than the 6th, the patient will overcome the illness.

I'm curious, though. I have a stellium in H1 (scorp), and I have had issues with those things that this article says is most common in Aries. Could that be because of Aries' natural rule over H1?

I don't know specifically which issues you are referring to, and I'm not going to pry, but you may wish to know that the sign Scorpio rules over the sexual organs, so "female health problems (including those affecting the uterus and ovaries) and "sexual problems" listed beneath Aries fall into the Scorpio realm.

Here is what Skyscript: Scorpio the Scorpion (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/scorpio.html) has to say; this information can be found under Traditional Rulerships:

Illnesses: Although Scorpio is considered a fertile sign, in decumbiture charts it signifies afflictions to the womb, and both the internal and external reproductive organs. Governed by Mars, many of its diseases are associated with ruptures, inflammations, ulcers and acute pain caused through abrasions and blockages. Diseases that fall under the signification of Scorpio include ureteral stones (bladder stones, blockages in the penis); strangury (painful discharge of urine); priapism (prolonged, painful erection); inflammatory bowel disease and such diseases as lead to fistulas (ulcerations that form channels of infection) in the lower intestines and genital regions; sexually transmitted diseases such as gonorrhoea and syphilis; hemorrhoids or piles (swollen veins in the rectum and anus which cause painful burning and itching); testicular diseases and all illnesses that lead to pain in the lower abdominal, genital or perineal area.

Scorpio is also generally associated with viruses or afflictions that come from bites, stings or poisoning. Raphael claims it signifies "all secret and virulent diseases" and it has often been ascribed to illnesses of an hidden, occult or unknown origin. Raphael also claims that Scorpio signifies scurvy, a disease caused by a lack of vitimin C, which prevents the healthy absorption of iron from the intestines.
Arian Maverick

[autumnleaf]

AM, the "Aries stuff" I was referring to is from the threads where you posted all the information about each sign. I was just curious because I related to most of what it was saying relates to Aries, yet I have nothing but Chiron retrograde in Aries. I do have a stellium in H1 and was wondering if it's from there, which is Aries' natural house, that I'm finding my life riddled with Aries related problems.

I've already been there, done that with all the Scorpio reproductive nonsense. With my strong Scorp influence there was no getting away from it. I've recently started having some foot issues. Nothing serious, just something up with where the arch of the foot meets the heel. Almost as if you've been wearing the wrong shoes. (had to edit this in---foot probs related to Pisces Moon).

I just find this kind of information fascinating. I got hooked on astrology long ago because of how accurately it describes peoples personalitites. Anymore my fascination and use of it is turning purely medical, and I find it fascinating how it can be applied to healing and point out possible problematic areas.

Linda Goodman once wrote about a "color diet". I found it difficult to stick with it long enough to get results, but I'm interested to see how signs, planets and foods are related to health and illness. Something along the lines of fast food is ruled by Uranus--sudden overdose of cholesterol = sudden heart attack! LOL

[Heart of a Scorpio]

i dont agree with this a 100% just yet. I think for the most part its rather accurate. But i believe it still needs to be further researched. This is a good start though in my opinion.

WHat sort of sexual problems do they speak of? E.D.?

[Arian Maverick]

i dont agree with this a 100% just yet. I think for the most part its rather accurate. But i believe it still needs to be further researched. This is a good start though in my opinion.

Oh, I agree; I believe this study only used Sun Signs. Unfortunately, many people don't take astrological research seriously, so it is difficult to come by.

What sort of sexual problems do they speak of? E.D.?

They were hardly specific at all, unfortunately :(

Arian Maverick

[Liquid Green]

just thought i'd add this site to the discussion

http://www.internationalastrologers.com/anatomical_sagittarius.htm

it gives the degrees of the signs and the body part they are meant to link with......I have found degree of my sons rising, links to the place of his birthmark.....!..............perhaps the rest of you will some correlations too....

[Arian Maverick]

Wow, thanks, Liquid Green! :cool:

I'm not certain of the exact degree of my Ascendant, but now I fervently hope it's not Pisces 28; I don't want Tuberculosis! :eek:

I'm not sure precisely which toe nails the descriptions for Pisces 29 and Pisces 30 are referring to, though...

I just looked up the degree for my Sun, but I'm not sure if you round up like the Sabian symbols; I assume that you do because the list begins at 1 Aries. If planets are not quite at 1 Aries but still in the sign of Aries, it wouldn't make sense to use the degree for 30 Pisces.

I'm going to keep with my rounding system because the description for 15 Aries is downright scary. I'll take "Pons Vareil" over "Lateral Lobes, Stroke, Suicide" any day!

Arian Maverick

[Liquid Green]

what is pons vareil?...........cant be too important, cos i dont think i have ever heard it in my entire life.....LOL........but i am no doctor, nor know everything!

I would like to know what medical astrolgers think of this site......no doubt there is some methodology in using the site..............something deeper than just looking at our planets and thinking we will get a problem with each degree on the site.................you'd hope so anyway;)

[cjc]

Mav,

For a living, I write the medical articles you read in journals...

There is one non-breakable rule: EVERY CLAIM must be referenced to a legitimate and credible source before statements such as those claimed in the article you posted are published.

I didn't see one reference there... I know there are astrological studies in the medical literature, and even Jung, which I respect.

Can you get that guy to back up any of his statements?

It's one thing to say that Su sq Sa is a nasty aspect or transit, but when someone claims quantification such as this... it needs backup. I think most of us with Su sq Sa could really build support for the belief.

I wish astrologers would follow the guidelines we have in medicine: proven beyond the possibility of chance and reproducible. Jung did this in "Synchronicity," and I believe Guaghelin (sp?) did it in his research. If our practice is going to gain credibility, we must PROVE it, not listen to someone who sits behind a keyboard and just spits out vague memories, assumptions, and recollections.

I've been in astro for more than 30 years, and I have made many, many accurate analyses and predictions. But I would never expect anyone to take my word for the end results. Maybe ask my x... she was there wnen i bumped into a woman I told would have an accident (4 Ma/Ur squares in transits and progressed). The woman had spent months in the hospital after a car wreck. ..... I could tell you this, but it's just my word... My x (who really has no great love for me) could back me up (if she remembers) and give a lot of credibility to the statement.

I like this site, and I've enjoyed it here. Maybe we could use it to bolster our credibility? A database dedicated to delineations or predictions >with charts< and their ultimate outcome? Verified by a witness if possible. There are enough practitioners here that a database with the entries we could garner would really lower the P value (possibility of chance). If enough members contribute, I think we could meet a sampling size that would be significant.

It would be a monumental task, but, I think, well worth the effort.

Just a thought or two...

c

[Heart of a Scorpio]

Oh, I agree; I believe this study only used Sun Signs. Unfortunately, many people don't take astrological research seriously, so it is difficult to come by.



They were hardly specific at all, unfortunately :(

Arian Maverick

well there is no doubt that some of this is leading somewhere. as i said i'm sure its a great start of some great research.

but ****, i wanna know what sexual problems! :(

[Liquid Green]

Wow, thanks, Liquid Green! :cool:

I'm not certain of the exact degree of my Ascendant, but now I fervently hope it's not Pisces 28; I don't want Tuberculosis! :eek:

I'm not sure precisely which toe nails the descriptions for Pisces 29 and Pisces 30 are referring to, though...

I just looked up the degree for my Sun, but I'm not sure if you round up like the Sabian symbols; I assume that you do because the list begins at 1 Aries. If planets are not quite at 1 Aries but still in the sign of Aries, it wouldn't make sense to use the degree for 30 Pisces.

I'm going to keep with my rounding system because the description for 15 Aries is downright scary. I'll take "Pons Vareil" over "Lateral Lobes, Stroke, Suicide" any day!

Arian Maverick



that pons is wrong hey!
its pons varoli............and its part of the hind brain...........you need all of it mav..........in good working order.......otherwise where else is all this great research gonna come from? toe nails are the go, make sure you chop em straight!

[cjc]

After my previous post, I went to PubMed (THE official website to find medical journal articles. US government sponsored. Available at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/)) and found the following article:

Br J Sports Med. (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:AL_get%28this,%20%27jour%27,%20%27Br%20J%20Sp orts%20Med.%27%29;) 2000 Dec;34(6):465-6
World cup soccer players tend to be born with sun and moon in adjacent zodiacal signs.

Verhulst J (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Verhulst%20J%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus).
Louis Bolk Institute, Driebergen, The Netherlands. Jozef.Verhulst@ping.be


The ecliptic elongation of the moon with respect to the sun does not show uniform distribution on the birth dates of the 704 soccer players selected for the 1998 World Cup. However, a uniform distribution is expected on astronomical grounds. The World Cup players show a very pronounced tendency (p = 0.00001) to be born on days when the sun and moon are in adjacent zodiacal signs.
PMID: 11131239 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Now, this is what I'd like to see more of... Not just sunsign ****, as too many of these articles do. I haven't pulled down the article yet, but it's free. Click on link above and insert 11131239 into the search bar to retrieve the abstract above. There is also a link for a free copy of the entire article which you can follow. (You can enter any search term... say "astrology"... in that bar to get all articles that mention astrology)

By the way, the P=0.000001 means there is at most a 1 in 1000 chance that this could only be a coincidence.

I'm going to look for more.

Ciao,

c

[Heart of a Scorpio]

it appears many of the signs have the same problems.

[Arian Maverick]

This is an awesome finding, cjc!

I happen to be a bit of the scientific bent myself, but I had nearly given up on the idea that astrology could be proven through scientific means; therefore, I have tended to hang my logical/scientific hat at the proverbial door whenever exploring the realms of astrology, although I see now that this has been a mistake.

I will definitely explore the site you have provided.

EDIT: Unfortunately, I was not able to visit the link to the Br J Sports Med. article, nor was I able to read anything more than an abstract when I conducted a search for astrology on the main site. Does it require a paid subscription in order to access these articles?

that pons is wrong hey!
its pons varoli............and its part of the hind brain...........you need all of it mav..........in good working order.......otherwise where else is all this great research gonna come from? toe nails are the go, make sure you chop em straight!

I noticed the incorrect spelling as well with a quick Google search, and unfortunately, little things like that make me begin to doubt the accuracy of this information. It's still worth exploring, though.

Arian Maverick

P.S. Your post made me giggle, especially make sure you chop em straight! :38:

[cjc]

Mav...


EDIT: Unfortunately, I was not able to visit the link to the Br J Sports Med. article, nor was I able to read anything more than an abstract when I conducted a search for astrology on the main site. Does it require a paid subscription in order to access these articles?

This is no paysite. I got right through to the Br J Sports Med. Granted, they make you sign up, but it doesn't cost anything, and I respect the BMJ publications. I pulled down the article. Hit me with a PM with where I can send it. I don't think copyright would allow me to post it here.

c

[cjc]

I happen to be a bit of the scientific bent myself, but I had nearly given up on the idea that astrology could be proven through scientific means; therefore, I have tended to hang my logical/scientific hat at the proverbial door whenever exploring the realms of astrology, although I see now that this has been a mistake.

The problem is that most of these guys don't know there's anything more to astrology than Sun signs. there are more than a few articles pooh-pooing astrology after just using Sun signs to prove that astro doesn't work. However, when they get into the nitty gritty, tunes change.

Jung and Guaquelin come to mind immediately. Most of us know Jung's "Synchronicity," where he found the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant were closely linked in the charts of married couples beyond the realm of chance.
Gaughelin set out to disprove astro... but ended up proving it. ("The Scientific Basis of Astrology": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Gauquelin -- although Wikipedia is not my first choice for a reference; you can Google him.)

I'll stick my nose into it a bit further and let you know what I come up with.

c

[cjc]

Just a thought, Mav....

As you're a moderator here, do you think we should start a new thread on "Scientific Validation of Astrology" as we're moving away from the "health" aspect of this thread....?

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[Arian Maverick]

Just a thought, Mav....

As you're a moderator here, do you think we should start a new thread on "Scientific Validation of Astrology" as we're moving away from the "health" aspect of this thread....?

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Yes, that's not a bad idea; I can probably transfer our somewhat off-topic posts over to this newly created thread, but unfortunately, the transferring often makes a mess of things.

I'm not sure which category it would best belong in; I'm leaning towards Other branches of astrology (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=10), if only because it is a sort of miscellaneous thread. I just hope it gets enough attention there....

Do you wish to create the thread, since this was your idea? I don't want to steal your thunder ;)

Arian Maverick

[zubiringo]

Thanks Alan,
What great research and it is all facinating stuff. I do agree however about Aries being prone to depression etc. They move around so quickly they are obviously using up a lot of nervous energy so stands to reason when things don't go as planned or they don't get the recognition they think they deserve that depression would raise it's ugly head..........being an Aries, Gemini/Saturn Ascendant I can really relate to this.

[Maries]

I'm surprised. I would have thought Capricorns suffer the most from depression--or even Pisces, plus from other mental ilnesses.

[Bellea]

Wow, this is great! Thank you!
I've noticed a great deal of Aquarius and Capricorn illnesses running in my family. I'll have to look further into this. :)