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angelina
07-07-2006, 01:11 PM
We have been friends for six years and we only see each other two or threee times a year (no physical intimacy but emotional intimacy). We are both long time married so I put him in the 11th. I was having alot of stress with my health over the last year or so and emailed him a bit. I thought he would stop writing me well because we are married and it is a litte strange. Anyway he keeps writing me back even though he does not have too really--and I know it sounds weird but I want to know why he does. He seems pretty private about his feelings. Perhaps just polite?
If he rules 11th then he is mercury and I am the sun? He is in 12th (funny because he is a medical researcher at a hospital lab). Also isn't that secrecy in communication (mercury in 12 and he is retro). It looks like he and I will meet because he is going back and sun is coming forward so they will actually conjunct at 24 cancer-- (12th house of secrecy) or so...
I still don't get it. What is his reasoning. I just feel something. I don't know what! If the signs met up in the 11th, it would just make me think he's being a good friend.
Any help would be nice.
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Arian Maverick
07-07-2006, 06:06 PM
What a fascinating horary chart!
Mars is tightly conjunct the Ascendant and opposite Neptune, which is tightly conjunct the Descendant; Jupiter seems to be conjunct the Nadir within two degrees, Venus is tightly conjunct the eleventh house cusp, and the moon is occupying the last degree of Scorpio! :eek:
Unfortunately, I cannot seem to derive any insight from these scrambled astrological observations...
Arian Maverick
angelina
07-07-2006, 07:16 PM
yeah arian...and see if he is Mars also---he is in my 1st house and opposing neptune in 7th. Does that mean he is into me or I am into him? Also Venus is moving to Mars..
Does Neptune in 7th oppose him mean he's deluding himself about me?
Francesca
07-07-2006, 08:36 PM
Don't take this seriously, because I'm just beginning horary, but isn't the first house ruled by Mercury (you)? If so, you are in the 12th house of secrets, perhaps describing the aura of your communications with this man.Mercury also rules the 11th, doesn't it, reflecting the communications defining your relationship. The moon at 29 deg Scorpio, and is VOC, indicating status quo for a while at least. Venus is aspecting Mars in a friendly way. Could this mean you have some mixed feelings about the nature of the relationship yourself?
It's tempting to interpret Neptune into all this but the outer planets are not traditionally used in horary. It COULD be seen reflecting the confusion over the nature of the relationship, if you consider a possible 7th house aspect to things. If so, saturn could be a co-significator. Could someone please rescue me, now, and take my foot out of my mouth? Radu? Jasmine? Anyone?
Arian Maverick
07-07-2006, 08:51 PM
I am not sure that your friend is represented by Mars, although this would be a logical choice; from what little I know of horary astrology, I believe one must determine the nature of the relationship and assign the quesited (the person or issue whom the question concerns) to the planet that rules the corresponding house. You, the querent, are signified by the Sun--the ruler the chart's Leo Ascendant. The Sun is located in the eleventh house in Cancer loosely conjunct the twelfth house cusp; thus, it may exert some influence on both the eleventh and twelfth houses. The Sun forms a Grand Trine with your third house Jupiter in Scorpio (conjunct the Nadir) and your eighth house Uranus in Pisces. Remember that Uranus and Neptune are currently in mutual reception, so your Descendant may subtly receive the energies of this configuration...
We must also not ignore the significance of the Mystic Rectangle, composed of an opposition between your first house Mars in Leo (conjunct the Ascendant) and your seventh house Neptune in Aquarius (conjunct the Descendant) as well as your fifth house Pluto in Sagittarius and tenth house Venus in Gemini (conjunct the eleventh house cusp).
Perhaps a more experienced astrology can make use of these basic observations ;)
Arian Maverick
Summery Joy
07-07-2006, 10:28 PM
Angelina,
A question like yours is very difficult to answer. I wouldn't know where to start. But after reading your original post, I think I can rephrase your question to "Does he keep in touch with me because he secretky has feelings for me?"
Your significator receives his by sign and triplicity and is in the 11th house. His significator receives yours by term and face and is in 12th house (his turned 2nd).
There are no applying aspects between the significators.
You both like each other, but your feelings for him are stronger than his for you. The hidden reason (radix 12 house) for keeping in touch with you is that corresponding with you gives him a sense of security (turned 2nd house). The rx motion of his significator may show trouble that he is having.
Neptune on the DSC my or may not show delusions that you are having about your marriage, but I don't think it says much about him.
angelina
07-07-2006, 10:30 PM
Thanks everyone. I am a little confused. I am asking the Question so yes I am LEO ASC= SUN. And that makes sense because I am his friend. Friends are ruled by 11th so that would make him Mercury?. I would give him Mars too as a guy and me Venus as the lady. Also I would get the moon (voc though I am not asking if it's going anywhere I wanted to know what his reason is for staying in touch...).
But then what? I do think 12th house is significant..for his field and the secrecy involved....
Francesca
07-07-2006, 10:33 PM
I WAS wrong about rulership- for heaven's sake listen to Sorehearted and don't be confused by me. I'm only trying to learn. Thanks, Arian.
Sorehearted, what do you mean by his "turned" house? Is there some formula for turning the houses? Thanks
Summery Joy
07-07-2006, 10:41 PM
Angelina,
The radix 12th house is your 12th house. The significator there shows that there something you don't know, not that there's something he's intentionally keeping a secret.
Fran,
Turning the chart means looking at it from the percepctive of the quesited. The friend here is ruler by the 11th house. We "turn" the chart counter clockwise to position the 11th house as though it is the 1st. This makes the 12th house his turned 2nd, the 5th house his turned 7th and so on. So when we talk from the questited precepective we say "the turned chart". When we talk from the querent's precepective, we say the "radix chart"
angelina
07-08-2006, 02:21 AM
Wow thanks sorehearted and all!
so sorehearted--for security?? But there's nothing of tradiitonal security can offer him since I have a husband--- but my friendship and love I guess. Not marriage not money not sex. I can't offer any of those.
SO you think because he is in retrograde he is feeling weakened or wavering about something and our friendship (me) offers him emotional security?
Is there any meaning to him moving back towards the Sun. Is that him seeking security in the friendship?
Summery Joy
07-08-2006, 11:43 AM
SO you think because he is in retrograde he is feeling weakened or wavering about something and our friendship (me) offers him emotional security?
Maybe
Is there any meaning to him moving back towards the Sun. Is that him seeking security in the friendship?
I cannot see his significator "moving back towards the Sun". Mercury is not moving towards any major aspect with the Sun and cannot be considered moving in any way towards it. The Rx motion shows his less-than-ok state. That's all.
angelina
07-08-2006, 03:47 PM
I am sorry sorehearted. Am I completely reading that transit wrong there? I am lost.
Mercury Retrograde is moving back. From what I can see on the astro charts, Mercury will continue moving in retrograde and at Cancer 24 the Sun at 24 Cancer and Mercury at 24 Cancer will conjunct. Is that wrong?
Summery Joy
07-08-2006, 05:40 PM
What are you apologizing for, angelina? You have every right to ask any question about your horary.
The problem with the aspects at the 24 degrees is that there will be frustration by the Moon before they are perfected. So whatever that can be expected out of the perfection of the aspects will be interrupted by something or someone.
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