Understanding my Horary question/answer

[yalie09]

First of all, I would like to thank this forum. I had never heard of Horary Astrology and it is fascinating. With that being said I am not sure if I am reading this the right way.
My question was if me and my ex husband will get back together again.
The chart which I've shared here shows some nice aspects between my significator and his moon,mercury, sun and venus.
However I read somewhere that if my significator is not in the 7th house w/ him that it is not a good indicator. He has Uranus in pisces in the 7th house. Uranus is a very unpredictable planet. Does it mean that if there is indeed a love interest now it will not last? I also think that our strong mercury aspects mean that we should keep the communication lines open. :wink:Can someone shed a light? Thanks so much!
The chart is below and so is a link to the same chart:
http://www.adze.com/SuperPower/Report.php?ChId=&ChPw=&parameters=Us%7C39N57%2C75W11%2C5W%2C20100101%2C64 5PM%2CPhiladelphia%2C+PA%7C%7C%7C%7CEqual


born 2010 January 1 at 650PM, Philadelphia, PA (39N57 75W11 5W)
House System: Equal
Planet
Longitude
Rx
Declination
Sun
11 Capricorn 28

22S57
Moon
28 Cancer 10

20N09
Mercury
17 Capricorn 55
Rx
23N48
Venus
9 Capricorn 06

23S24
Mars
18 Leo 40
Rx
11S55
Jupiter
26 Aquarius 36

13S11
Saturn
4 Libra 25

0N15
Uranus
23 Pisces 09

3S08
Neptune
24 Aquarius 28

13S36
Pluto
3 Capricorn 15

18S20

Chiron
23 Aquarius 32
Node
21 Capricorn 35
Ascendant
7 Leo 35
Midheaven
25 Aries 43


House System
Equal
House
Longitude
1
7 Virgo 35
2
7 Libra 35
3
7 Scorpio 35
4
7 Sagittarius 35
5
7 Capricorn 35
6
7 Aquarius 35
7
7 Pisces 35
8
7 Aries 35
9
7 Taurus 35
10
7 Gemini 35
11
7 Cancer 35
12
7 Leo 35

[astro09]

Yalie09
It is important to have the data accurate, even if I draw the chart using my software, I have no time, date and place for the question and the chart you erected. It is preferable to attach the chart (I am thinking as a horary chart).
We will be here.

[yalie09]

Yalie09
It is important to have the data accurate, even if I draw the chart using my software, I have no time, date and place for the question and the chart you erected. It is preferable to attach the chart (I am thinking as a horary chart).
We will be here.
Thanks. I included the information now. Thanks again!

[astro09]

Yalie09
Sorry, I can not open your attachment.

[yalie09]

Yalie09
Sorry, I can not open your attachment.

I pasted in the chart on my original post. When you scroll you'll see it. Thanks again.

[yalie09]

Yalie09
Sorry, I can not open your attachment.


Here is the link to the chart I used. :happy:
http://www.adze.com/SuperPower/Report.php?ChId=&ChPw=&parameters=Us%7C39N57%2C75W11%2C5W%2C20100101%2C64 5PM%2CPhiladelphia%2C+PA%7C%7C%7C%7CEqual

[astro09]

You, the sun in Capricorn, have feelings for him (although there is some reservations or something). However, he seems to not have those same feelings for you. There is a separating aspect between you and him, but I see no applying aspect between the two. Your moon, also cadent as your sun (you, you) unable to get something helpful to salvage the marriage. Watch that moon, void of course like nothing will come out of this… Sorry, but I see that at the end, the relationship will dissolve; time will tell.

[yalie09]

You, the sun in Capricorn, have feelings for him (although there is some reservations or something). However, he seems to not have those same feelings for you. There is a separating aspect between you and him, but I see no applying aspect between the two. Your moon, also cadent as your sun (you, you) unable to get something helpful to salvage the marriage. Watch that moon, void of course like nothing will come out of this… Sorry, but I see that at the end, the relationship will dissolve; time will tell.


I thought I was the ascendent and moon? I thought he the male figure is the sun or the 7th house? I am confused about this. I have read on this forum that the male is the sun not the female. Would be open to hearing some opinions. Thanks!

[yalie09]

I went back to see what this forum said about locating who was who in the chart. In the horary chart the moon(female) is in cancer. I am natally right on the cusp of cancer born on june 22. Pisces is in the 7th house. My research points to the 7th house as the "male" I am asking about because it is a relationship question. Cancer and pisces are trine being of the same element. So there is a moon uranus trine. This is the definition of this aspect :There is an ability to productively exploit the information, skills, and techniques that you acquire through life. ...Moon trine Uranus: You take bold steps in your approach to everyday problems. This gives your personality a sparkle and excitement that others love and respond to. You know how to make excitement out of everyday activities, as you search out new methods for performing routine activities.
Another way I can look at it is that I am the ascendent virgo he is in the 7th which is pisces so there is an opposition, but the opposition is helped by the sun(male) trine to the ascendent and the trine between mercury and venus which I see as the "elements" of the relationship.
Would like to read comments on my insights aswell as any other interpretive insights.
Thanks in advance!:wink:

[astro09]

You are correct, the sun signifies the man. In this case, a horary chart, your asc is leo, thus, sun represent you, the querent while he is signified by the 7th house ruler, saturn.

Hope this help clarify.

[yalie09]

I see myself as the moon, not leo. In my research it seems you can interpret both ways...

[yalie09]

Let's go w/ leo for discussion purposes. I am the sun in this chart because leo the ascendent is ruled by the sun...ok the sun is in capricorn so it sextiles my ex in pisces 7th house. And is in conjunction / same house w/ four other planets all mind you in the 5th house which makes sense to me because we have kids(2). So in essence if we use the sun as me I am indeed aspecting him in the 7th house. So much activity in the fifth house tells me we will share a home together.
More than open to hear comments on my insights or other notess concerning this chart.
Thanks in advance!:whistling:

[yalie09]

Saturn? I am under the impression that since pisces is in house 7 that his ruler would be neptune? Please clarify.

[yalie09]

Let's go w/ leo for discussion purposes. I am the sun in this chart because leo the ascendent is ruled by the sun...ok the sun is in capricorn so it sextiles my ex in pisces 7th house. And is in conjunction / same house w/ four other planets all mind you in the 5th house which makes sense to me because we have kids(2). So in essence if we use the sun as me I am indeed aspecting him in the 7th house. So much activity in the fifth house tells me we will share a home together.
More than open to hear comments on my insights or other notess concerning this chart.
Thanks in advance!:whistling:

[yalie09]

The chart says pisces is in the 7th?

[yalie09]

That's not what the chart says. This chart is a bit sophisticated. Is it possible to have two signs in the same house. Not planets but signs. I have seen charts where one sign occupies different planets in the cusp of the house. For example my chart says I have virgo/uranus 7th and virgo pluto in the sixth...
Also the planets in the fifth house are Venus, mercury and we already discussed the sun in the fifth as well as 1 outer planet which i guess is not used in horary...still that is a lot of action for one house...

[yalie09]

Also I am under the impression that Aquarius is ruled by both saturn and uranus...

[yalie09]

I thougt saturn ruled capricorn? I want to work out all the aspects. i don't think anything is cut and dry especially when there is so much activity in one house...some things are obvious leo-aquarius opposition in the 7th but no relationship planets there which is heartening. The signs are just opposing each other./ saturn -sun square. But oppositions in my chart have had an "anchoring" affect. It means there is tension no doubt. I did divorce him. Opposition to me means confrontation and partnership. If we are to be together some things will "have" to be worked out prior.
But there is also the 3+ planets in the fifth house i believe to be positive...I think if you have other favorable aspects lke our busy fifth house and our sun/mars conjunction. Also mars in the eight house is significant:Mars in the eighth house asks us to enlarge or sacrifice our ego boundaries in order to enter into relationship or union with another...
I think the chart is telling me that if the work is done we have a second chance.
I would have liked a trine to the 7th house, but the reality is all relationships require work...

[yalie09]

It just DUH dawned on me that there will always be a first house opposition w/ the 7th...LOL...I think it's significant if there are planets and there are none for the purposes of horary...this is fun and insightful...:smile:

[yalie09]

Question. Horary deals w/ right now right? because I moved away so there is no way we could get back together till i move back this summer. The other thing is if Leo is indeed the ascendent it is the 6th house we have all the planets in which also makes sense because he is in a "work gotta be successfyl" frame of mind right now...

[yalie09]

Yes mars in leo would be house 1. This is based on the day of my decision. I would like to get our charts done and see when would be optimum for a reunion. Anything worth having takes work so I am actually encouraged by the report. I did get a divorce. The tensions in the horary chart wee expected. I would have been leary if there were trines everywhere. Trines mean no effort which is boring.
In the horay chart mars would be the male? or how is that worked out? Thanks!

[yalie09]

I want to make sure I understand. This reading basically gives us the probability of a reconciliation for now...which I would agree with. This is good for how long? We all know situations change. What are the top five major aspects that are looked at for a favorable relationship answer? Horary is a ye or no based answer and we all know with relationships there are many variables. I didn't see a female prescence in the 7th. Even the moon does not aspect the 7th. Would the horary chart just have me and my ex in it? Not the children or family members? This is really fascinating...

[yalie09]

Mars rules 10 in the horary - so it's your public status or career. I would expect public status as this is a relationship question and your status has changed and you're not happy about it - you're divorced.

Mars is the natural ruler of divorce, separation, and conflict, amongst other things, which may also have some bearing here. As it's in your house (the 1st), that may be why you're feeling it so keenly.

I actually divorced and moved 800 miles to attend school to advance my career so that makes sense to a certain extent. I was the one that filed and moved. I left. The divorce had to happen as a matter of principle. Even when we speak there seems to be a possibility. he cried when he spoke to me a couple days ago. He said I broke his heart when I left w/ the kids...

[yalie09]

The chart says you won't reconcile - full stop.

Now, should circumstances change drastically, you can ask again. But unless they do, nothing is going to happen. Your planet, the Sun, his planet, Saturn, and the Moon, are all cadent - so there's no action possible. Cadent planets (planets in 3, 6, 9, and 12) do not have the ability to act. Angular planets (in 1, 4, 7, and 10) are strongest, and succedent planets (2, 5, 8, 11) can get the job done - well - 8 wouldn't work in a romance chart because it's all about grief and loss, but 2, 5, or 11 would.

If circumstances do not change drastically, take this as a final answer - if they do change drastically (should you fall pregnant by him or something like that) then it would be worth it to run another chart.





We both know there is not a cure all end all. This is based on the time the question was formulated not our charts. I will get our progressed charts done at a later date and post the findings here.
Nothing is EVER fool proof. I have faith and perseverance. Regardless nothing ventured nothing gained...The hard aspects you speak of could be opportunities no detriments. It's good to know the challenges that exist so that I can work with the energy that is present. Truly we are the masters of our universe! BTW, you are fairly awesome with your insights! We just have a different approach to life!

[yalie09]

I don't think you know what a horary chart is, so you can toss the whole thing out.

Quite seriously. You had no idea what you were asking - so it's not a valid chart.

Which might make you feel better about the whole thing. Horary is meant for those situations where you've already lost sleep over the matter in question, don't know which way to turn anymore, and need to know the answer more than you need to like the answer.

And that isn't what you were looking for. Ergo, not a valid chart. And that's okay. I'd estimate that 90%+ of the horaries on this board aren't valid - I wouldn't answer most of them in my professional practise. No shame in it, btw - you simply didn't know. And that doesn't get held against you.



Oh my gosh Olivia you are more awesome than I had originally thought. The only problem really is that I am not sure about the time. That is the caveat.I don't know if it was at the stroke of 12 on new years or much later...Regardless there are definitely oppositional forces and its good to know what they are so you can work with them and not against them...

[yalie09]

Well guys. I moved back home the third week of January and have been back with my ex since the second week of March. Just wanted to let those out there know that no matter what a Horary answer states life happens and ultimately "you" are the architect of your future!
Believe!!!:biggrin:
Cheers!!!

[yalie09]

Well suffice to say our reunion was brief...too many hurt feelings and such. So here I am again.
My question this time is will we ever reunite forever or permanently.
I am ready for whatever it is that is going to or not going to be.
This really *****!
Thanks again.
I included a new chart for my new question.

[yalie09]

Best of luck!

[yalie09]

This was an old post. He came back after this was posted. We have both moved on. Even if he came back now I would not take him back. I don't love him anymore.