Uranus in Dignity and Debility

[Arian Maverick]

This series of threads was created with the intention of discussing the influence of planetary dignity and debility in natal astrology. Each planet has been designated its own thread and a quick reference sheet of this planet's dignity and debility has been provided.

Dignity:


Uranus exerts rulership over Aquarius
Uranus is exalted in Scorpio


Debility:

Uranus is in its detriment in Leo
Uranus is in its fall in Taurus


Arian Maverick

[pisceskitty]

Greetings,

I have Uranus in Libra conjunct my Libra Asc. It is trine my Gemini Moon in the Ninth, and Square my Mars in Capricorn in the third. I have always been somewhat rebellious in nature! I do sometimes say things that i know will shock people just for the fun of it! I never do it to hurt, just to have a little fun;) I am really shy in person..but when it comes writing I find that I am shockingly honest.

I sometimes admit, that i'm really hard-headed, and don't always listen to advice. It's gotten me into alot of trouble. But I do believe I am a fighter. Especially for those who can't fight for themselves. I'm very politically active, and an advocate for women's rights. Belive it or not, Uranus is my favorite planet. I liked being shocked, and shaken up! it keeps life interesting. I hate being bored, and can't sit still for five seconds!

[Sisi]

HI to all - am new here!

I too, like pisceskitty have Uranus conjunct the Ascendant, and am trying to understand how it works. My asc is 5 Virgo, and also have Pluto at 6 Virgo and the south node at 28 Leo (with Uranus) in the 12th. Any ideas? I get the Pluto bit. Any suggestions about how to define it would be a great help. Thanks!

[freedomlover]

I have Uranus conjunct Pluto in Virgo in the 8th house opposing Saturn in Pisces in the 2nd. I have always thought this was the most prominent feature of my chart. I was also musing on the subject of this earlier this morning: I was wondering what the conjunction of the Pluto with Uranus (Scorpionic energy blending with Aquarian) and then them both in the 8th house (ruled by Scorpio) That double-dose of Scorpio behind the Uranus has to mean something.

[23]

Uranus in 7th here in Sco - no relationship issues at the moment - square my Aqu sun/merc, sex pluto and wide square (disassociate) to Can Sat

[Manic_Monday]

I have Sun trine first house Uranus. I'm a bit of a rebel. I can be shy, but I like to do things my own way. I can't stand people telling me what to do.

[Michael]

I have Uranus Square Ascendant. And yes, I'm a rebel.

[Kawa]

Hi Arian,
this thread is old but it is new for me, and i cannot skip it.
I love Uranus, :D in a very visceral way, that's a strange word 'visceral', but that's how it came out of me the moment i started writing here - and i think that's honest not to change it with a more refined one, that's exactly how i feel. For visceral i mean that i feel it in my torso, heart and stomach, like having a soulmate inside. Uranus is me or i am Uranus, and the description here is so perfect,
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/uranus-conjunct-ascendant.php
there is not even a single word that i would change, that's amazing actually. :cool:
So, my Uranus is in 1th house,
conjunct AC Gemini 6.35 orb
conjunct Node Gemini 4.04 orb
trine MC Aquarius 0.17 orb
sextile Moon Aries 3.16 orb
sextile Mars Leo 0.03 orb
sextile POF Aries 2.19 orb
trine Jupiter Libra 1.10 orb
trine Chiron Libra 1.38 orb
quinconx Pallas Capricorn 1.45 orb
parallel Saturn Cancer
parallel Pluto Leo
parallel Node Gemini
parallel Sun Gemini
parallel Pallas Capricorn
there is no square or opposition.

I love changes, rebelliousness, lightning bolts upsetting the status quo, sudden break ups, the "sudden-ness" is enlightening, always taking me into a new better life!
Cheers! :60:

[Miss Saturn]

Some people argue over why Uranus is exalted in Scorpio an Air planet in a water sign which is deeply emotional and penetrating. I have read the reading on the placement. Mercury is in fall in Pisces which is understandable. Why has Uranus been exalted in Scorpio. :hands on hips, awaiting answer: :D .

Although I have Uranus in Scorpio in 3rd. :)

[Miss Saturn]

And also Aquarius squares Scorpio by sign in the chart. Like Pisces is square to Gemini. Maybe I am just in a nitpicking mood today. :D

[Miss Saturn]

I understand why Uranus is in detriment in Leo because Leo is about self and Aquarius "the good of all, the group etc and Uranus rules over Aqua". I will shut up now. :rolleyes:

[Kawa]

What is death? Not the end maybe but a "sudden" change, even though everybody knows death is a certainty, it gives no hint that it is coming. It always comes suddenly, catches you unawares, and the friend is gone, the lover is gone, the beloved is gone, the mother, the father, the brother is gone. But why make it dramatic? That's the normal way of Scorpio. From the point of view of Uranus that's normal, that's why the exaltation, it is from an higher point of view. That's my view.
Though i don't know about sex, i have to think about. ;)

[Kawa]

I don't know when Uranus got the exaltation in Scorpio, maybe at that time sex was still considered taboo (like death) but the sexual revolution was already on the horizon, and some intelligent people decided that sex is something natural, even though dramatic in Scorpio [for the old mind], and hence the exaltation. The emotion of Uranus is cool!
Hey, i just asked my inner soulmate Uranus and that's what he suggested :D

[Miss Saturn]

But :D.

Your right Uranus is cool, but Scorpio isn't it's ruled by Mars and Pluto. Death is under Pluto. If you get a terminal illness it doesn't come suddenly, or if you are at a very old age you know death is approaching it's inevitable. Death of the young and healthy is the most unexpected and shocking. Death reminds me more of people being ripped out your life. But in a grim reaper way :D I am getting a bit morbid. Scorpio the 8th house and Pluto see death as natural. Uranus/Aquarius would rather not deal with it all. I understand Mars being well placed in Scorpio. I understand Venus not being placed well in Scorpio (although I don't always agree with it :D ) I will think more on this,.

Thanks for the input :) .

[Kawa]

There have been two kinds of societies in the world:
one society which makes sex taboo, and it is not afraid of death;
the other society which drops the taboo against sex, then it immediately becomes afraid of death.
There is no society that i know in which neither sex nor death are taboos.
That's what Uranus is going to create in my hopes for the future of humanity.:)

For example, in India, sex is taboo - you should not talk about it, and there is a famous book called Kamasutra totally ignored by the mass - but death is not taboo. Death seems to be one of the most talked about subjects in India, not sex. Sex is absolutely taboo. See what happened when Sarkozy planned to visit with the girlfriend [now wife]? The Parliament discussed how to solve this thing because "obviously" they could not share a bedroom, but at the same time it was obvious they could not tell them to sleep in two separate rooms. What a problem.:eek:

And if you look at America US, death is taboo; you should not talk about death. If you start talking about death, people will avoid you. You will not be invited to parties anymore. You are not supposed to talk about death. That's why even if somebody dies you have euphemisms, words to cover up the fact of death. You say, "He has passed away." You don't say, "He has died", or do you?

Sex and death are one like birth and death - and in between there is life.
Uranus says: Live life intensely without fear. [actually i say it] :)

[Miss Saturn]

Is Uranus not a more detached planet, I get the meaning of Uranus through Scorpio, not having outmoded ideas on sex like the examples you have given. Sexual revolution freedom from taboos. Deep explorations of the unknown. Uranus breaks up old ways of relating sexually, the hidden in society etc..

Uranus in Leo where the planet is in detriment - these people can find new ways of expressing themselves creatively. Changes through entertainment, being more individualistic than the group.

There are good expressions of Uranus through both signs, I do still wonder why an Air planet is being exalted in Scorpio a water sign. :) Are they really that compatible. Obvious we can find a good expression through the planets ourselves. The way astrology works some signs have natural rulership with others and so on... Aquarius Uranus ruled, is square to Scorpio which rules all that is taboo, sex, death etc.. as well as the instinctual side of life.

[Kawa]

But :D.

Your right Uranus is cool, but Scorpio isn't it's ruled by Mars and Pluto. Death is under Pluto. If you get a terminal illness it doesn't come suddenly, or if you are at a very old age you know death is approaching it's inevitable. Death of the young and healthy is the most unexpected and shocking. Death reminds me more of people being ripped out your life. But in a grim reaper way :D I am getting a bit morbid. Scorpio the 8th house and Pluto see death as natural. Uranus/Aquarius would rather not deal with it all. I understand Mars being well placed in Scorpio. I understand Venus not being placed well in Scorpio (although I don't always agree with it :D ) I will think more on this,.

Thanks for the input :) .
Hi Miss Saturn,
if you get a terminal illness still death comes suddenly, you know that a terminal illness can go on for months, even years but the meaning of sudden is literal, you never know exactly when, and when death comes is always sudden, i mean there is not knocking on the door, or saying hallo, death comes and life disappear, but you know it only when life has disappeared.
I know it seems obvious what i am saying, in fact it is.:60:

Why you say "Uranus/Aquarius"? Let Uranus be Aquarius in Air and let Uranus be Scorpio in Water. What's the problem? Just for a change i see it perfectly well as the other face of Uranus, cool emotions, actually i am realizing just now with this discussion that i never considered this aspect of Uranus but all of sudden i fell into this conversation and it seems perfectly natural.;)
I never thought i could have this extra Scorpio side, because my 8th house is empty and the only Scorpio i related was my Pluto in Leo.
i read the other message...:)

[Kawa]

Is Uranus not a more detached planet, I get the meaning of Uranus through Scorpio, not having outmoded ideas on sex like the examples you have given. Sexual revolution freedom from taboos. Deep explorations of the unknown. Uranus breaks up old ways of relating sexually, the hidden in society etc..

Uranus in Leo where the planet is in detriment - these people can find new ways of expressing themselves creatively. Changes through entertainment, being more individualistic than the group.

There are good expressions of Uranus through both signs, I do still wonder why an Air planet is being exalted in Scorpio a water sign. :) Are they really that compatible. Obvious we can find a good expression through the planets ourselves. The way astrology works some signs have natural rulership with others and so on... Aquarius Uranus ruled, is square to Scorpio which rules all that is taboo, sex, death etc.. as well as the instinctual side of life.

Uranus in Leo, why in detriment? actually i don't know! but i can imagine myself relating with a Leo or sitting in a Leo's house (i have a friend Leo) and i cannot stay there for too long. Leos move energy like hot air and again i have to say Uranus is cool in the literal meaning too, and Leo is fixed while Uranus is sudden mutable. Is Uranus hot or cold? because i feel it cold even though there must be some kind of hotness too, maybe changing from hot to cold and vice versa and very easily? Huh:60: i don'y know about creative expressions and new ways for Leos but why not? Are you Leo? What is there to understand why an Air planet is being exalted in Scorpio a water sign? I think i said it already but maybe i have to find another way to express it. Uranian e-motion = water in motion, Scorpio can be kind of stagnant. . . no offense for Scorpio:) i got a new friend just recently, so i am discovering new aspects. :)

[Miss Saturn]

Uranus is in detriment in Leo because it is in the opposite sign it naturally rules which is Aquarius. Leo is a fixed sign and Uranus is a fixed air planet. Uranus is more cold I don't mean that it dos not care as Uranus cares about humanity, the people ect.. but doesn't always take the individual into account (Leo). The news way of creative self expression are for people born with Uranus in Leo, like the news ways of relating sexually are for the Uranus is Scorpio generation.

What do you say about why Aquarius and Scorpio square in the chart. What makes these two signs be in conflict. This is why I am questioning Uranus being exalted in Scorpio. :)

[Kawa]

Uranus is in detriment in Leo because it is in the opposite sign it naturally rules which is Aquarius. Leo is a fixed sign and Uranus is a fixed air planet. Uranus is more cold I don't mean that it dos not care as Uranus cares about humanity, the people ect.. but doesn't always take the individual into account (Leo). The news way of creative self expression are for people born with Uranus in Leo, like the news ways of relating sexually are for the Uranus is Scorpio generation.

What do you say about why Aquarius and Scorpio square in the chart. What makes these two signs be in conflict. This is why I am questioning Uranus being exalted in Scorpio. :)

Okay, i have no time to go on right now, so i may answer something tomorrow, not because i know, but i may need to learn some more.
I am not "supporting" the exaltation, neither rejecting, i just say that i am not "fixed" with rules and regulations, so it must be an Uranian choice, totally irrational :60:. See you tomorrow!

[Miss Saturn]

I am not totally rejecting it either, I am just wondering why this combination go well together. If you have any more thoughts please share them :) .

In the natal chart Aquarius is squared to Scorpio.

Traits of Aquarius;

Air sign:

Humanitarian
deals with logic/facts
intellectual
Needs personal freedom
Idealistic
The mind detaches from emotions
Independent
Equality
friendly/sociable
detached

Traits of Scorpio

Water sign:

Emotional
Passionate
Mysterious
secretive
private
possessive
instinctive sign
revengeful
hot temper
loyal
sexual

Just imagine an an Aquarian and Scorpio dating: It looks like this below :D Only joking although when I bring out my Venus/Pluto aspect many men try to run ha ha ha, fools. :p

Scorpio Woman

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/466/morganaangiegz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Aquarius Man

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/894/runpj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kawa]

I am not totally rejecting it either, I am just wondering why this combination go well together. If you have any more thoughts please share them :) .

In the natal chart Aquarius is squared to Scorpio.

Traits of Aquarius;

Air sign:

Humanitarian
deals with logic/facts
intellectual
Needs personal freedom
Idealistic
The mind detaches from emotions
Independent
Equality
friendly/sociable
detached

Traits of Scorpio

Water sign:

Emotional
Passionate
Mysterious
secretive
private
possessive
instinctive sign
revengeful
hot temper
loyal
sexual

Just imagine an an Aquarian and Scorpio dating: It looks like this below :D Only joking although when I bring out my Venus/Pluto aspect many men try to run ha ha ha, fools. :p



Yep, i know what you mean, but you should never bring out your Venus/Pluto aspect - how come you do that? where is the secrecy? what is the real reason for popping that up? do you want they to "try" to run? . . so that you can catch them again? nice game hmm, and yes i always have thoughts to share :p .
So, i am an aquarian expressing freedom colored with hidden plutonian hues, mixed with neptunian nuances and saturnian perseverance, so it is quite difficult for me to separate or make lists, i tend to unify, merge together elements, something like this:
I go on watching my emotions with detachment, enjoying the passion in every single cell of my body and mind, just because never totally lost in it, i know what i am feeling.
Dealing with logic and facts i stepped into the mysterious, realizing the limits of logic and intellectual knowledge, useful in a day to day life but left behind when entering into the mysterious or irrational.

I know i am not answering your question, in fact i don't know why Uranus is in exaltation in Scorpio, but i am having fun :34: trying to mingle your list just with what makes sense to me.

Equality brings a friendly attitude [sociable], but the need for personal freedom makes me appearing secretive, just because my independence needs a private space to enjoy myself, to know myself. :D
To me humanitarian is the one who says, i have traveled on the same muddy path, i have suffered the way you suffer, made the same mistakes, so i understand you, and i also understand why you don't understand me, that's why i am ready to help you become an individual. I love people and that's why i love individuality, it may seems a contradiction but you need to be an individual if you want to make humans working together. Otherwise we may have robots, as we actually have on this planet, conditioned minds, unknowingly slaves.
Okay, now few words are still left of the water sign:
Possessive - it is a negative trait when exaggerated, i have Venus in Cancer, so i know how difficult has been to let Uranus work to dismantle it, but the combination of these two energies may not be completely bad together - possession is needed for living in independence.
Idealistic: isn't that just the opposite of realistic? do you know anybody who is realistic? i don't (except me :60: of course). Underneath the idealistic concepts lie hidden the deepest sins. Think about it.

Sexual - hmm, Uranus in exaltation and sex becomes the door to the divine, i wonder if Tantra can also be called the uranian sexual way. Because Tantra is basically sex with detachment, sex in meditation or sex in its instinctive nature.
What is left of your list is hot temper but i don't agree that's exclusively for the water sign - not loyalty either.
And the last revengeful i left it for the end because i really don't know the meaning of it, i mean i can't be revengeful, i never felt revengeful, it is not in my nature, not that i have never received insults/hurts but that's not my business, simply because i never feel insulted/hurt - that's my revenge! :eek: a very uranian trait in exaltation, don't you think so?
Now, i don't really know anything about how astrologers have chosen the dignities for the late discovered planets - is that so important? I think we can also do without exaltation.
Searching the web i have found here (http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:uT47_lXSw78J:www.seeingwithstars.ne t/pdfs/EssDig.pdf+choosing+exaltation+rulership+uranus&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6) a nice definition:
Planets in Exaltation are “more in a position of honoured guests”.
Did i forget something?
Thank you for allowing me to consider these points, i think i am going to dig this topic even more. :)

[Night Sky]

Venus is exalted in Pisces. Love and compassion.


Uranus exaltation in Scorpio?


Uranus is the bringer of change. Scorpio is sign of transformation.

Uranus has rulership of group relationships. Scorpio has rulership of group resources.

There are similarities in the goals of these planets and signs though definitely temperament is to be debated.

[omnia]

Hi everyone,
I have Uranus in 7th house i Scorpio, that's the planet i have here.Uranus squares Mars and Jupiter and have opposition to ascendant.:)I have hard time in my relationships, i don't have so much close relations, i put a boundaries.

[BobZemco]

Hi everyone,
I have Uranus in 7th house i Scorpio, that's the planet i have here.Uranus squares Mars and Jupiter and have opposition to ascendant.:)I have hard time in my relationships, i don't have so much close relations, i put a boundaries.

You're going to have a real hard time, unless you can learn some discipline. I don't have any idea how you're going to that. Do they let women in the Bulgarian army?

[omnia]

You're going to have a real hard time, unless you can learn some discipline. I don't have any idea how you're going to that. Do they let women in the Bulgarian army? Hi BobZemco,
I miss that my Mars and retro Jupiter are in conjuntion in the 5th house.(Mars, in Leo, Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo):pHeheh, yes but if you want to be a profesional warrior, it's not obligatory.Should i go there...:D?

[BobZemco]

Hi BobZemco,
I miss that my Mars and retro Jupiter are in conjuntion in the 5th house.(Mars, in Leo, Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo):pHeheh, yes but if you want to be a profesional warrior, it's not obligatory.Should i go there...:D?

You have to find a way to use that energy in a creative manner, or most of your life will be not very fun. I know a few people with Uranus in the 7th or Uranus in the 7th square Mars, but I didn't know how to help them. Never seen Uranus in the 7th with a T-square is it? with Mars opposing Jupiter square Uranus? I'll have to think about that one.

[skywatcher1221]

What do you say about why Aquarius and Scorpio square in the chart. What makes these two signs be in conflict. This is why I am questioning Uranus being exalted in Scorpio. :)

Uranus may be exalted in Scorpio not so much because it is well placed there, but because it is in its fall in Taurus. It is easier to see why it is in its fall in Taurus.

[nejispirit]

I have to admit, I feel almost amused and very intrigued by the tension that Mercury in Retrograde brings to forums, nonetheless;

I have Uranus in Sagittarius in the 4th house, which has always had my home life in chaos and I think until I no longer live with a close relative, I shall be able to bring a calm to it.

I have Mercury trine Uranus, Venus trine Uranus, Moon trine Uranus and Uranus trine Lilith- I know the true meaning of eccentric people, that is for sure ;)

[Jenna Jupiter]

If you have Uranus in Capricorn AND Saturn in Aquarius? (My generation)

Aqua Sun Conjunct Saturn
Aqua Moon Conjunct Saturn?(To wide orb, at least i think so)
Aqua Mercury Conjunct Saturn
Cappy Venus Conjunct Uranus
Cappy Mars Conjunct Uranus
Cappy Neptune Conjunct Uranus

It just feels like a very weird match!!

/JJ