will they work it out

[jag]

hi

i was wondering if someone with more experience can help me decipher this chart i ran an hour ago... friend is asking if this relationship will survive the right now turmoil; i'm saying yes because there is so much pure stable energy with saturn playing a key role.

date july 1, 2006
time: 12;26 a.m. (DST)
time zone (5)
71.05 lat 42.46 long(bradford, ma, USA) aries rising

she's represented by mars and the moon and mars is in the house of joy so i'm guessing she has all the power in this situation but may be wrong and not know how to properly approach like back to off and give it some time or what to do.

he is represented by venus and there are no aspects to mars and venus but there are other interesting things. his venus and her mars hit saturn favorably so i'm guessing this means if they do work it out there might be some more stability and staying power or is it just saying there is a strong pull to each other now?

sun is in the fourth house and is trine jupiter which is combust and i'm not sure if that weakens the aspect or not.

i also used pof and pof trine his venus square jupiter and oppostie mercury and saturn so talking right now is out of the question. it's also trine the asdendant part of marriage is conjunct mercury and saturn which means he is reluctant to talk about the relationship. it's sextile his venus, squares jupiter and trines the ascendant.

all i can say is there is alot of energy in this chart. can anyone see how i misinterpreted things. as for timing when would this issue be resolve as of 10 min ago he hung up on her saying he had nothing to say to her and maybe the chart tells her to back off and let him get in touch with her; she still has a bag of personal items but he can mail them to her if he had to. moon's last aspect is square pluto which to me means that the old must die in order for the new road to be taken in this relationship.

as for timing would i use venus sex saturn where mars is separating. and it's in a mutuable sign so i'm guessing the 1.6 difference is one week and 6 days or a month and 6 days. anyone any good at figuring out time frames. thank for any help or light that can be shed on this particular horary chart.

jag

[Summery Joy]

How committed is the relationship? Are they married or engaged? Or maybe living together?

[jag]

hi....
thanks for asking for clarity. they have known each other for alittle over 5 years. he wanted to move in together and she didn't want it to turn out that living together wasn't going to result in a commitment. psychic she saw recently asked if he gave her a ring and she replied no and the astrologer (who she's used and is very reliable) said that the union would end up in marraige. he doesn't want to get married because of "issues" he said are in the relationship but he won't discuss them so they can be dealt with on anyone's level. so i thought part of marriage was an essential part to use because it tells so much buti don't know all it tells.

thank you for any more light you can shed on this... she's really torn apart and she just found a message he must have left early this morning that said you aren't the right girl for him and he doesn't want any communication, he is taking some sleeping pills that can be addictive and he is an alcoholic so i wonder if that isn't feeling it's way in. he also starts a new job after being out of work since mid february; he went into a deep depression and she put her needs aboveh is and did whatever she could. she feels duped but doesn't want to prematurely leave the relationship behind. like i said she is heartbroken and i d on't know if the chart can tell when positve contact information can be tolerated and what he is thinking or coming from; her biggest thing is needing to know "why?"
jag

[Summery Joy]

This is a 5th house issue. It doesn't matter what that astrologer said. right now, they are not in a very committed relationship.

I got the ASC at Aries 8:11

She is signified by Mars at Leo 16:40 in the 5th house. This house position shows her remaining interest in him. Her significator, however, is essentially peregrine, but has some accidental dignity by being succeedent.

He is signified by the Moon at Virgo 11:58 in the radix 6th (his turned 2nd). The sign position describes his depression. Unlike Mars, the Moon has essential dignity by triplicty. He's interested in his own self at the moment.

There is no mutual reception between their significators which do not behold each other in any way. The last lunar aspect is a sqaure with Pluto Rx. If considers the lunar node, the last lunar aspect is an opposition iwth the South Node.

I believe the answer to the question is No. Even if we use Venus as the ruler of the 7th house, we still have no reception nor and the only aspect will be frustrated by the Moon.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't look like this turmoil will be overcome. Even if they get over it, they'll break up again.

[jag]

hi sorehearted
thanks for the insight buti still don't knw what the issues aer and who has the problem here. can it be worked out andthen issues solved? i dont see why it wont workin the chart andh e runs hot and cold.

thanks for yourhelp
jag

[Summery Joy]

Where in the chart do you see that they could work it out?