Does your descendant describe your partner

[Miss Saturn]

Hi,

Does your Descendant describe your partner, I was reading up on the descriptions of the D.C and was looking at my Descendant, mine does quite accurately describe my partner I think. It doesn't just have be his Sun Sign.

Here is how I think my D.C describes him.

I have the sign of Pisces on my Descendant and the Sun, Moon, and Mercury placed there with lots of aspects but it will take too long to look at them.

I looked at my partners birth chart and he has his Ascendant, Moon, and Mercury placed in Leo certainly the type of person who likes to shine and he is very dramatic. I think this represents the sun in my 7th which can mean a Leo type partner.

Next he has his South Node in the sign of Cancer so he knows how to be caring, protective and emotional, skills he has well developed. This is represented by my Moon in the 7th

He has his Sun in Virgo, he is intelligent a workaholic and likes to be of service to others. This is represented by my Mercury in the 7th.

He used to be an Alcoholic, he has Sun Square Neptune. This could be my Pisces Descendant
( Attracting the drunks ) Just Kidding he is really lovely.

How does your Descendant describe your partner? I would be interested to know.:)

[laliqueviolin]

Descendant Sagittarius 26°32'50

I am attracted to the very friendly and freedom-loving types. The type of people who are always having fun, having an adventure one day or on another.. like the beatnik Jack Kerouac! this intrigues me. It fits the description of whom I am always attracted to... the ones I can't ever have. I'm sure I can have them, but it would mean some great deal of freedom of space has to be involved, which can get complicating.

If there is someone who is too settled, I'll get bored. But if someone is too freedom-loving, I would want to be the one who wants a little "settling" down. Argh!

:)

[Miss Saturn]

Thanks for the info SS. I have read having Sagittarius on the cusp of the Seventh or Jupiter placed there can bring a lot of Marriages. Part of the reason these people marry often is because they're optimistic, buoyant, and enthusiastic about jumping into an alliance.

[Rubella]

Hmmmm,
Interesting thought. I have Aries Descendant, with Sun, Jupiter and Mercury ( the last two in conjunction ). I heard that the more planets you have in the 7th, the more picky about your partner you are, cause it needs to have more specfic qualities.

[Mary]

I have Sagitarius 29º at the desc, Capricorn intercepted (juno at 9º Cap), and a little bit of sag. Also I have neptune at 26º sag.

All guys who were involved romanticaly with me were Sun in Pisces, or Moon in Pisces.

My actual relationship: Sun in Pisces, Mercury in Pisces, Ruler of the Asc in the 12th, Jupiter in Aquarius in the 10th Capricorn Mc. Sun´s dipositor is in Capricorn.

I think there is sth in common with sag and pisces: jupiter. The side of jupiter I love most is jup with a mix of saturn: The wise, the philosopher, the one who has ideals, free spirit, visionary, quite eccentric.

Mary

[Howl]

Capricorn on the cusp, with seventh house containing cap south node and aquarius venus

My deepest and longest lasting relationship with with a capricorn, with aqua mars and aqua rising, so it does seem rather accuate for me so far.

My DC and mars are the only points of my chart to touch Earth, and I do have rather a fatal attraction to Earthy boys :P

[23]

My DC is in Libra and I have Uranus and Moon in the 7th house, with Moon roughly conjunct the 7th house cusp. My partner is a gemini (whose sun trines my moon and DC) with a scorpio moon and capricorn AC. He is a bit eccentric though, probably because he now would have progressed aqu asc and his dad is an aquarian so that fits in well. I think he also is very sensitive but doesn't express it much, fits in with the moon. He also likes the finer things in life. He likes good clothes, food, wine, coffee, appreciates good music etc but probably in a more Taurean way than a Libran way. He is not very artistic though but appreciates the arts. So I guess in a tenuous way he matches my DC and the contents in the 7th house. The fact that my 7th house also contains sco in it makes more sense in matching my partner as he involved in the health profession

[Lorielle]

I have 14 Leo 14 on the 7th house cusp. My recent x has his vertex at 14 Leo. Our moons are conjunct at 5 and 6 Leo. My Moon falls in his 7th house. However, my Mars is at 2 Cancer in the 5th house and I'd say about 90% of my relationships, including 2 marriages were with Cancer men.

Lori

[AquariusMoon]

Hi. The sign on the cusp of your DC alone will probably not describe your ideal partner. You have to also add in the qualities of the planets in your H7, your Sun sign and your Mars sign. The more qualities of these signs that you can incorporate into the mix, the better.

AqMoon

[Lynns]

My desc. is in cancer. He is caring and sensitive, yes.
My mars is in Saggi, and he has a Saggi moon and midheaven, very much a Saggitarius.
His Venus is in Libra, and I'm a Libran. His desc in Virgo, which is on my moon.

I would say he is close to my ideal, if not my ideal.

[23]

Hi. The sign on the cusp of your DC alone will probably not describe your ideal partner. You have to also add in the qualities of the planets in your H7, your Sun sign and your Mars sign. The more qualities of these signs that you can incorporate into the mix, the better.

AqMoon


Well in that case, my mars in gemini conjuncts both his venus and sun. And yes, I am attracted to geminis in general the most.

[Manic_Monday]

I don't have a partner at the moment.
My descendant is Gemini, so that would mean I'm attracted to intelligent but unreliable men, i.e. smart liars.
Doesn't Juno tell about the partner as well?

[Howl]

Ouch, sounds like you've met some of the dregs of the gemini population ;)
They're not all like that, I promise

Yeah, I would be interested to hear if anyone has had or has a long term partner who is described by their juno placement.

[Sanem]

I have Moon in 7th House in Cancer.

I've never had a close relationship, but I notice I prefer Cancerian people over just about anyone else. Although I also seem to get along well with Capricorns.

The only two girls I've ever told I loved them were both Cancers, although I don't think I really loved them.

To give a hint, half of the people who's birth date I've collected are Cancers, or have Cancer Ascendants.

[laliqueviolin]

Hmm.. curious, I was thinking that most of my own relationship troubles with "Sagittarian" types (my desc) has always been because its something that I don't have, so I fill it by having a partner who is quite not like me.. but love to have in a form of a person.

Would this understanding better help us to choose more reliable ones in the future? It makes much sense... of course these things are unavoidable but it helps better lessen the hurts and disappointments..

[deepak gurnani]

Dear All
I have no planets in the seventh house. But my wife has 5 planets in her ascendant - Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury!!! We do all the things in our own way!!!

[Francesca]

Everything in my chart to do with partners and 7th is neptunian, yet I am always attracted to Geminis due to my Gemini mars. But I must admit my response to them is frequently neptunian- fuzzy minded, idealistic and martyrish

[Lorielle]

Like Francesca, I am attracted to Cancer men.. My Mars is in Cancer in the 5th.. And I plead the 5th. :)

[Howl]

Mmm, I was thinking about this last night; all of the strong platonic friendships in my life are with people very strong in the signs and elements I have (air/fire) Many of the women who are important to me are of the same sun sign as my venus and moon.

However, there's a complete reversal when when I look at the guys I get involved with, all water and earth!

SS, I think you're onto something with your theory of "fulfilling" the presence of certain signs in your life in the form of other people. I have wondered before if I will attract/be attracted to partners 'less different' to me as I become more comfortable with 'using' the different qualities myself.

[Miss Saturn]

On the subject of relationships I found this lovely description of my Virgo boyfriend.

The Virgo B*****d

How to spot one

If he looks vaguely familiar, thats because he is you probably saw an artists sketchy impression of him on most wanted the night before and faintly remember words like "bludgeoned," "manhunt" and "Virgo.
However he is much more attractive in the flesh. He is well groomed and often fair of hair-like most serial killers in most killer serials. Just look for the cool calm and collected one doing nothing but staring disconcertinly at you from across the room.

Where to find one

Holding up lines at the bank querying the service charges. Loitering inside the army reserves. In a public restroom washing the evidence off his hands. In a maximum-security psychiactric ward complaining that the wardens put his jacket on back to front, and furthermore it doesn't go with his trousers.

How to intrigue one

Mention your inheritance in casuual conversation. At the same time run your finger seductively up and down the wine bar and comment on the disgraceful amount of dust there.

First Date

When he eventually gets around to asking you out, he'll take you to one of those Hare Krishna centres. Where for less than fifty cents you can eat all the lentil soup you do not wish to eat. ( Handy hint get rid of all the small change at the bottom of your handbag ).Be on guard if at the end of the evening he says he knows this little great spot for an after dinner drink and it happens to be down a basement, at the edge of a cliff, or down a dark alley.

When to do the deed

Don't the Virgo b*****d does to sex what mad cow disease did for the traditional pot roast.

When to pop the question

What question are you talking about here? "when you polish the faucet in the future can you also clean the bathtub"? "how come I'm paying for dinner again"? Or why do you wax the hair on your chest when you have so little on your head.

If he dumps you

Like most Virgos he probably won't get round to it. If he does it is obviously because you never kept the shower recess clean enough or filed his grocery reciepts properly. Either that or you flicked through the mug shots at the local police station, pointed to his face and said that's him. That low life who loaned me twenty five cents to make an emergency phone call after he attempted to hack me to death.

If you dump him

He'll be ominously quietly hurt and just when you think you're rid of him he'll appear from behind accompanied by dodgy camera angles and predictible cello solo. Don't think he is hiding a bunch of flowers behind his back-flowers cost money. No the thing in his hand behind his back is that god dammed ice pick again.

I can't wait to read this to him he'll love it.:D

[Sanem]

Like Francesca, I am attracted to Cancer men.. My Mars is in Cancer in the 5th.. And I plead the 5th. :)

Lol, I've got a female friend who seems to take a liking in me.

Now I have her chart

- she's a Cancer

- and it happens she has Mars in Cancer (she likes Cancer types?)

- in 7th (Mars in 7th, so she likes Arian types; Cancer in 7th, she likes Cancer types?)

- Moon and Venus in Gemini (not sure what the role of the moon is here, but I guess it would indicate she has Gemini emotions and behaves in a Gemini way in a relationship?)

While I have

- Moon in Cancer (I'm a strong Cancer type)

- in 7th (I'm attracted to Cancer types)

- Venus in Aries conjunct Mercury (I like Arian types/am an Arian type/like Gemini types?)

- and Mars in Gemini (I'm a Gemini type in a relationship?)

Lol, I'll ask her in a few hours what type of guys she falls for, macho's or sensitive types (she already remarked that I'm a sensitive type).

[Wave]

Hi,

my descendant is in Saggitarius, so I am attracted to freedom and adventure loving men, who are also quite individualistic, and are different from other men since they are unique and original. Sometimes I think why I am not attracted to some more 'easy to handle' types - but than I remind myself that my descendant is in Saggitarius...

Wave.

[EvilPixyScorp]

Yes...

Gemini DC, no planets here.
Taste for Gem boys when younger, but have decided Caps are more my style.
Mars in Cap, strongest planet in my chart., plus
serious Saturn conj. Mercury, sextiled by Mars.
So we see I like hardworking, subtle dry humor,
well read, a bit rebellious...That's about right, lol


Oddly...Aquarians always approach *me* first, sensing the Venus/Uranus energy easier than others since it's hidden in the 12th.
Oh, and my last 2 stalkers have had Venus conj or opp. Pluto...Yikes!

[Howl]

Thought I'd revive this pearler of a thread with some descendant astrology I hadn't yet seen...

Cancer Descendant
If Cancer lies on your Descendant, you're looking for a love mate who will free you from the emotional chains you lock yourself up in, someone whose warm, affectionate and protective nature will melt your chilly reserve. Since you have Capricorn Rising -- a Sign that signifies a need for control, caution and accountability -- you need a partner who gives freely of their love and their attention. You don't take much time for yourself because you're so worried about keeping up with your obligations, but you instinctually seek out lovers who pamper and spoil you, but who are also somewhat emotionally needy in their own right. When you fall in love, you tend to do so slowly and cautiously, fearful of losing control of your destiny; you'd be most content with someone with whom you can start a family and share a secure home.

Scorpio Descendant
If Scorpio lies on your Descendant, you're seeking a torrid romantic partner, someone with whom you can get very intimate. Since you have Taurus Rising -- a Sign associated with perseverance and stubbornness -- you seem to the world quite in control of your appetites and passions. Behind closed doors, you're craving intense, lusty encounters, profound and complex connections and unrestrained emotion expression. When it comes to falling in love, you put on a brave and diligent face, sizing up your potential mate, assessing their physical beauty (a high priority for Taurus Rising) and material worth. Once you've got a lover in your sights, though, your defensive layers peel away like skin off an onion, your simmering emotions and passions heating things up in no time. A partner who is somewhat possessive and intense, someone keyed into your ardent desires will make you the happiest.

Pisces Descendant
If Pisces lies on your Descendant, you wish for a romantic partner who is as tuned into the universe's rhythms and to the joy and transcendant possibilities of love as you are. Since you've got Virgo Rising, people often see you as serious and meticulous, as needing to quantify everything and be in control, someone who enjoys being needed; you may seem like the type who views love as way to security rather than as a mystical and exciting experience. When it comes to falling in love, you are at first hesitant, cautious and businesslike, quantifying your potential partner's qualities to discern whether or not they're worth your time. But it's all quite to the contrary once you're intimate with someone; in love you're actually looking for someone with whom you can share intense emotional connections and perhaps a common spirituality, someone who can read your mind and intuit your needs. A mate whose open mind and heart will free you from fears or reservations will make you the happiest.

Gemini Descendant
If Gemini lies on your Descendant, you're searching for a partner who will help you to see the trees for the forest, someone who will deflate your rhetoric with their keen view of reality. Since you have Sagittarius Rising, you have a tendency to want to roam the world endlessly, to continuously question your life's path and explore your every whim and curiosity. Being tied down frightens you, and you instinctually seek out partners who will make you aware of the smaller picture, someone who will want to keep moving around as much you do. When it comes to love, you paint with broad strokes, idealizing the notion of love and expecting your lovers to live up to your high intellectual expectations. You'd be happiest with someone vibrant and youthful; they must mentally stimulate you yet not congratulate you for your occasional arrogance and preachiness!

Libra Descendant
If Libra lies on your Descendant, you're searching for a romantic partner with an even temperament and a sense of inner harmony. Since you have Aries Rising -- a Sign associated with aggressiveness and action -- you seem to the world quite spontaneous, bold and assertive. Beneath the surface, though, you're a soft-hearted romantic who yearns to meet that special someone and settle down. Coupledom -- even with all its inherent benefits and aggravations -- profoundly appeals to you, the idea of sharing your life with one person resonating in your soul. When it comes to falling in love, you may at first seem blasé, too preoccupied and busy with your own dynamic lifestyle. You may even warn your potential mate of your roving eye or your need for freedom; once you've got their ear, though, you'll reveal your heart's true intentions. A mate keen on marriage and building a family will make you the most satisfied.

Aquarius Descendant
If Aquarius lies on your Descendant, you aim to meet a romantic partner who will expose you to life's rich variety, a true individualist and independent. Since you have Leo Rising -- a Sign associated with imperiousness, drama and positivity -- you seem like someone who requires much adoration and attention. You give the impression that you want a mate who will coddle you and cajole your powerful ego. To the contrary, though, you're actually looking for a relationship partner who will step back when necessary, giving you a break from all the attention you're always receiving. When you fall in love, you do so with an open heart, showering your new mate with lots of gifts and affection; once you've got their attention, though, you reveal your true desires. A mate who is eccentric, active, intelligent and inspiring will make you the happiest.

Capricorn Descendant
If Capricorn lies on your Descendant, you aspire to meet someone who is successful, honest and dignified, a romantic mate whose gifts to you go beyond flowers and foot massages and more toward fiscal security and unswerving devotion. Since you have Cancer Rising -- a Water Sign associated with emotional sincerity and the maternal instinct -- you seem to desire someone whom you can baby or dote on, someone who will only intensify your tender vulnerability. On the contrary, you're actually seeking a partner who is more mature than you (you may in fact marry someone a bit older than you!), someone on whom you can rely, someone to dote on you! When it comes to falling in love, you seem to lead with your heart; once you've got a potential mate's attention, though, you pull out your checklist of desired qualities and assets. A partner of status who is serious, established and ambitious will best suit you.

Taurus Descendant
If Taurus lies on your Descendant, you yearn for a romantic mate who can offer you a sense of material comfort and stability, someone dependable and reassuring. Since you have Scorpio Rising -- a Sign known for its obsessive and secretive tendencies -- you seek out someone whose calm and comforting nature will soothe your fears and build up your confidence. You aspire to create harmonious, affectionate relationships, possibly to deflect the mysterious and sort of dark energy you seem to attract because of your mysterious Rising Sign. When it comes to falling in love, you really only give yourself over once you know that a potential partner possesses a reliable source of income and a balanced temperament. You may even feel the urge to delve into your mate's past to make certain what they're telling you is true: And this includes peeking at their bank statement and investigating the histories of past relationships!

Virgo Descendant
If Virgo lies on your Descendant, you desire a mate who is selfless in their service and dedication to you, a lover who will provide unwavering reliability and stability. Since you have Pisces Rising, others see you as dreamy, emotionally pliable, submissive even. Consequently, you may feel you need a mate who can anchor you in reality and clue you in when you're overlooking important facts and clues. You need someone who is pragmatic and astute, alert to the world's perils and possibilities, someone who will keep you on your toes. When you fall in love, you do so with your heart open, your idealistic romantic notions bared and vulnerable; it wouldn't feel like love to you if you were guarded. Though you seem to enjoy having your head in the clouds, you're actually craving structure and security, the kind of certainty that comes from routines and habitual behavior.

Aries Descendant
If Aries lies on your Descendant, you're seeking a love partner who will stimulate you, someone dynamic and assertive. Since you have Libra Rising -- a Sign known for its indecisiveness and caution -- you feel as though you need someone who's resolute in their actions. You crave relationships full of fireworks and surprises, so expect that, with whomever you attract, you will experience some spirited conflicts and misunderstandings. It's in your nature to fall quick and to fall hard, impulsively wrapping yourself up in someone's life before you even take a moment to consider the consequences of the union. You may also marry on a whim. With the combination of impetuous Aries on the Descendant and romantic Libra Rising, you could wake up single in the morning and find yourself hitched in Vegas by nightfall!

Leo Descendant
If Leo lies on your Descendant, you're hunting for a mate who is as gregarious and sociable as you, but who possesses the sort of resolute confidence and emotional expressiveness that you sometimes feel you lack. Since you have Aquarius Rising -- a Sign associated with aloof intellectuality and humanitarian interests -- you need a mate who will counter your self-deprecating pride with their own brand of pride -- of a more effervescent, positive variety. You hold your own in the spotlight, assured and well-spoken. When the attention turns to your love life, though, to sharing your most intimate emotions with another person, you run and hide, fearful of being pinned down or caged; and yet you instinctually seek out romantic partners who are steadfast and loyal and who will worship you and spoil you with unconditional support and affection.

Sagittarius Descendant
If Sagittarius lies on your Descendant, you're searching for someone who has not only the same intellectual nature as you, but also the focus and stamina to turn their innovative thoughts into direct action. Since you have Gemini Rising, people see you as intelligent but also a bit brisk and lighthearted, not too keen on delving beneath the surface or advancing past the initial fun stages of things. You seek out a mate who will take you deeper, who will allow your expansive mind the space it requires, someone with whom you can share the rather idealistic beliefs you keep hidden beneath a cool, glib exterior. When it comes to love, you're flirtatious and spontaneous. You tell potential partners that you need your freedom, that you can't be tied down to one mate forever (and you'll likely marry more than once), but you actually feel the most liberated when you're in a secure relationship.

[Shining Ray]

She is such an excellent Astrologer Miss Saturn, I totally agree with everything she says. :D ;)

Hey Howl the description of my Pisces Descendant sounds a lot like me, I am very cautious in approaching love. I do need to be needed in my relationship. I didn't like it when my partner's mum cooked him a meal before he left from visiting her, because I was going to cook for him. I can be critical to my partner but I do it gently I hope.

Shining Ray

[ashakamath]

I wonder if it does?
I am an aquarius ascendant so a Leo Descendant.
aqua 28D has north node 227/mars4/jupiter 15D
taurus has moon 21D
Leo has south node
virgo has Saturn Retro 6D
sagi has mercury 11 D
capricorn has sun 5 and venus 21D

My first husband was a mentally sick person. My 2 nd one was love of my life-but it broke up after birth of our daughter 20 years ago. Noone else has ever come in my life.
any Karmic connection?

[Brooklyn Dave]

I though the descendant would be one of the indicators of the type of persona you'd basically be attracted to.

[starlink]

Yes Aquarius, you are right. 7th house alone can not be the only indication. Mars for a women, Venus position for a Man are to be taken into consideration as well. 7th house can just as well be the way you are with your partner or, what sort of qualities you would like in a partner. The partner you get does not necessarily have those qualities found in the 7th, but maybe seen from your Mars, the sign it is in and the aspects Mars makes.

[ashakamath]

dear star link
I did not understand this part of it.
I have a Leo which is my descendant house. I have aspect of Jupiter on it-but also aspects of north node, mars as well. what could it be??

in another case the acsendant is Virgo with south node in it. in pisces which is the descending house, there is Jupiter, North Node and venus-so how do we interpret either of these?

regds
asha

[starlink]

Dear Ashakamath, In order to understand what you mean, I need to know a bit more. You tell me that your descendant falls in the Leo sign. This means that your Ascendant must be Aquarius. You write about a Jupiter, Mars and north node aspecting the 7th house (Descendant).I need to know what sort of aspects they are, otherwise you cannot tell. Is Jupiter conjunct the 7th house? (you mention: "on it"). The place where the North Node is found is considered to be a point of gain, increase and added confidence, the point in your horoscope you should strive toward to find fulfillment.
Where the north Node is, you are given or you take in. The South Node is where we give out, release or let go. It is the area where you must give or where you are taken from. It often shows the area where the person takes the easy way out.The axis where the nodes fall, also seem to indicate some sort of family interaction, so between 1 and 7 you could have visible character, personality or appearance traits in common with one of the parents or grandparents.(between 2 and 8, similar value systems as your parents etc.)
The other case where the Ascendant is Virgo, that must be another chart I suppose. (your partner or boyfriend?)In the 7th house of that chart you say : "there is" Jupiter etc. do you mean that they are in that 7th house? And what sort of aspects do they make?. You see, from placements and aspects alone you cannot get a full picture. You must look at the whole horoscope.

In many cases a Pisces Descendant and on top of that Jupiter in it, could mean more than one marriage (most double sign Descendants, so also Gemini). But it can also show a highly romantic sort of spouse, or your expectations being too high when it comes to a partner and therefore you could be prone to desillusions (Pisces). Everything is possible but you must know the rest as well. Hope this gives you some idea.

[pearlized]

Very interesting! My Descendant is Leo which is my hubbies Ascendant and his Descendant is Aquarious which is my Ascendant.

[Lissa]

My descendant(4ºCancer)doesn't describe my partners(when I have one:D ,which doesn't happen very often LOL).It does describe the type of person I''m atracted to.I usually go for boys who look sweet and innocent and in need for protection-basicly,just the typical Cancerian traits.Things usually go wrong cause,sometimes,their personality matches their look,and I end up discovering that that sweet looking guy is in fact very needy and extremly depressive!Having Jupiter in the7th,I prefer to be with people who are cheerful,philosophic and positive minded.So dependency is something I'm unconsciously atracted to-not something I like to deal with.

[Summery Joy]

Descendant Sagittarius 26°32'50

I am attracted to the very friendly and freedom-loving types. The type of people who are always having fun, having an adventure one day or on another.. like the beatnik Jack Kerouac! this intrigues me. It fits the description of whom I am always attracted to... the ones I can't ever have. I'm sure I can have them, but it would mean some great deal of freedom of space has to be involved, which can get complicating.

If there is someone who is too settled, I'll get bored. But if someone is too freedom-loving, I would want to be the one who wants a little "settling" down. Argh!

:)
You're not alone, laliqueviolin. I have Dsc in Sag too and boy do I feel for you!

[SunMoon]

Thank you Howl for the article!
My Descendant is in Capricorn (also my sun sign) how often does this happen?
Capricorn is also on the cusp of my 7th House. Mars in Pisces and Cancer is my rising sign... I DO like Pisces people a lot, of course not all people from the same sunsign are the same, but in general. Also, my chart has a lot of water and a lot of ''Saturn'' so i guess it all makes sense.

[Howl]

Pearlized - I like your name :). I also have a partner whose descendant is my ascendant, and vice versa. He has an 8" Capricorn ascendant, and I have an 11" Cancer ascendant. If you held our charts side by side and folded one over onto the other, the zodiac would almost match ;)

I wouldn't be surprised if this happens more often (than it otherwise would statistically!) because partners with opposing ascendants will (generally) have opposing signs ruling the same houses. Maybe you have Pisces on the cusp of the second house, and he has Virgo, etc. Since each of these polarities represents an "opposite" approach to the "same" thing, I believe that there is a fundamental polar attraction. It feels like that anyway :p

Hey SunMoon! Um, about 1/12 of people have their sun in the same sign as their descandant :). Why do you count Mars in Pisces as your rising sign? I can see that with a Capricron descendant (seventh house cusp) you'd have a Cancer ascendant (first house cusp) like me, heheh. I'm not sure how this links to Mars in Pisces though?

[Howl]

Ahhh, I get it now! You are attracted to Pisceans because your mars is in Pisces (mars being considered an indicator of women's attraction to men, as Starlink pointed out), a separate point to your ascendant being Cancer. Sorry, misreading :p

[SunMoon]

Oh wow, really? See, i didn't even know that about Mars. I did read the last page but i missed that part, i just noticed that someone mentioned what sign their Mars was on and so i did the same. And thanks for letting me know 1/12 of people have their sun in the same sign as their descendant, i didn't know that either.

[Paws of Nickel]

Mmm, I was thinking about this last night; all of the strong platonic friendships in my life are with people very strong in the signs and elements I have (air/fire) Many of the women who are important to me are of the same sun sign as my venus and moon.

However, there's a complete reversal when when I look at the guys I get involved with, all water and earth!

SS, I think you're onto something with your theory of "fulfilling" the presence of certain signs in your life in the form of other people. I have wondered before if I will attract/be attracted to partners 'less different' to me as I become more comfortable with 'using' the different qualities myself. I have an air predominance, closely equaled by fire. My only earth and water placements are the most distant outer planets! :eek: Most of my close, platonic friends are also air/fire strong. Even my family members and I share some key personal planets, such as my Sister's Venus in Aquarius which conjuncts my Sun and loosely Mercury and Venus. :p

My descendant is in Sag, complete with a Sag Uranus and a Cappy Neptune hanging around. My brother is a Sag and I have some good friends who have key planets in Sag as well.

Last year, I met my lovely, wonderful girlfriend. I do agree with your theory about filling that elemental hole with a partner who is heavy in the elements that you lack. Well, my girlfriend has a stellium in Libra and several fire planets. BUT! She has her Mars in Virgo, an Earth sign! I think it was her Virgoan Mars that attracted me to her in the first place. Then it's her Libra, Aries, and Sag placements that keep me on my feet. ;) Because of her and several other reasons, I love and appreciate people who have Mars in Virgo, and Mars in Earth signs in general. :p

[yelena234]

Hello MisSaturn,

This aspect: Sun square Neptun has my ex friend, and he was never Alcoholic. It is true, that he has smoked all his life, but smoking and drinking are two different things.

I have Sun in 7th, and understand myself very good with Leos. That doesn't mean, that I have boyfriend in Leo.

When somebody looks, what sign should be partner, then you look, where is your Mars? In what house? My Mars is in 10th, and most of my friends (more than that) are born in Capricorn, 10th sign. From other side, I am Taurus and Capricorn is ideal from that point.
Mars is also ruler of my 7th house. Men I know, are very athletic with good and nice body. It could be also somebody with uniform!

I am thinking to make some club, men born January 1st. For me, they are all attractive. Why that, I don't know.

Yelena

[lilllybelle]

I've got to confess I didn't read through this whole thread, but I've had an idea about the descendant tinkering around in my head for the past couple of weeks and I thought this would be a good place to plop my idea down. Maybe the descendant represents the qualities that we project onto our partners. My dec is pisces and I have quite a few partners in the past that I saw as incompetent or as barely able to take care of themselves. Mybe that wasn't how they really they were, maybe I just projected a helpless pisces quality onto them. Quite a few of the men I've dated have had a leo desc. I don't think of myself as acting very leoan, but about a month ago my boyfriend described me as having a bold dramatic look. He used some word like that. I can't remember which. Maybe the descendant is just the lens that we view our partners through.

[astrobhadauria]

Dear,
It is true that our descendant always support in personal life,and oppose in the out side life.I am living in India and there are more examples for the supporting and opposing with in the field.After reading about the nature and creativity for maintain the descendant,there are some my own thoughts those I collected from past readings of many charts,and also by the personaly contect.
If descendant is Aries,means there are more and more power of physical power,he or she always ruling home,related people,also mind thinking,what is thinking by opposite side,and how can he or she will maintain,if anybody will make short talk about the enmity,there are bisfot like a bomb.If anybody want to make insults of his or her partner,there are no ways to save by maker of insults.
If descendant is Taurus,there a big faith on couple and 90% long relations,with life partner,or with partner,if anybody leave partnership,Taurus always think in mind that he or she is alone in world and nobody can help him
If descendant is Gemini,there are double thinking in mind always,he or she has news of out side people,and in free time there are lots of stories,we can hear,private detectership is the formula,always thinking in mind to female child and always thinking in mind about conectivity,more speech also reason of disturb life.
If descendant is Cancer,there are full life depends on heart,this type person always change mind,there are all works by heart,they can not use mind,if a short talk feels him,they think for that whole time.They past living of grand father's time is genrely the point of discues.
If descendant is Leo,there are full depending on the life partner,if partner make food,then they can eat,if partner arrenge the stay they can live,like a Lion and lioness,you can see in the life of lion,always first atteck by lioness,then after killing the food lion goes slowly to the food,and when he eat the food,lioness make defence of the eating of food.
If descendant is Virgo,always happy life,no single works will be posible in personal life,always this type person want to make service and they know the indications of requirements,they can feel the imotions and make service in proper time.
If descendant is Libra,there are always thinking like a business person,more time they spend in the making balance,and more time they required for the making desisions.If there are a sexual requirement by the partner,first they think,if the cooperate for the sexual activity,what fruit will be posible,if there not profit seeing by him,they make a reasonable point and refuse the sexual activity.
If descendant is Scorpio,the mind always going to life partner,for making good and good in the family life and they can use witches,voodoo works,there are some thing feeling like he or she is not able make satishfection to him.But the partner always think to make good and good for him.

[wintersprite1]

My 7th house is empty. Cancer is on the cusp, all of Leo, and some Virgo to boot. My partners in life have been ecclectic in "signs", but all have some sort of Moon and Sun energy that is strong. I think the duality actually fits me well, since I have a direct opposition between Sun Capricorn and Moon Cancer.

I really thought that my Sabian Symbol for the DC proves this need for dualtiy also

24º Cancer (114): A WOMAN AND TWO MEN CASTAWAYS ON A SMALL ISLAND OF THE SOUTH SEAS.
The three "souls" in man-factional, emotional, mental -"exiled" in the body. Potential fulfillment.


TK

[Neptune Rising]

Hello
I have Gemini on my Descendant, and the South Node is there too, I have never really settled down with anyone yet, also Saturn in Cancer in the 7th house. So I guess that makes me really picky about who I settle down with. I like to have to freedon/space to be who I am and hate to feel stifled.

The guys I like most and stick with most (can be counted on one hand!)usually have venus in Gemini.

The guys I am most attracted to are intelligent, dazzling me with their wit and humour, and are always older. They have a serious tone about them, are established in some way and are self reliant, but also a bit lighthearted, not too heavy! If I find someone who is too 'steady' I go off them in an instant. There has to be space and some sort of movement for me to stick to a guy, even if it is just an evening course one of us does, something outside of the relationship to keep it lively.

Neptune

[5th house moon]

Starlink, you said:

'7th house can just as well be the way you are with your partner or, what sort of qualities you would like in a partner.'

I'd have to agree with that. I have mercury conjunct my cap desc - I definitely look for the chatty, quick-tongued mercury types as opposed to the saturnian types. Usually Geminis (I'm a sag) but I do have Sun in 6th conjunct Mer, so I do find Virgos generally quite stimulating. My most recent love interest has a gem desc.

I do find guys with Uranian flavour quite intriguing also - probably due to my aquarian venus.

Interesting thread!

[astrobhadauria]

24º Cancer (114): A WOMAN AND TWO MEN CASTAWAYS ON A SMALL ISLAND OF THE SOUTH SEAS.
Ashlesha Nakshatra: Spread from 16:40' to 30: degree Karkata(Cencer). Chandra(Moon) is the lord. It is the birth star of Ketu(South Node of Moon). Symbol-coiled up snake. It is the nature of a snake to hide himself, to encircle and entwine, to creep on the chest, to embrace, and to enjoy or unite surreptitiously. All this is an attribute of Ashlesha also. The cunningness of the serpent, its devious nature, the burning sensation of poison and pain along with all consequences that poison connotes are to be read in the constitution of Ashlesha. The virtues and vices of the serpent are all in it. Chandra(Moon) in Aslesha sicklied over with various faults in great intensity. Whoever would have his or her karmapathi (Lord of the 10th house) or bhagyapathi (Lord of the 9th house) in this star would run the risk of having all his or her principal acts in life handicapped, jeopardised or spoiled by many kinds of danger and obstruction. If the Lagna(Asc) is in this star, the native would possibly be of willy disposition. Such people would like to work in secret and their words would carry the sting of poison.
Those born in the star Aslesha are cruel, daring and angry; they probably co-habit with people of same sex and animals like cow, according to Narasimha Prayoga Parijata(A Book of Indian God Narshimha). They travel aimlessly, do undesirable jobs, harmful to his own and other people; they are proud and suffer on account of sex starvation. They are angry and are strong like lion; they know Brahman(Worshiper and religious person in Hindu community) and dependent on others for life. They are cruel to all beings, pay fines by doing sinful acts, unstable minded, and fearful. They are always sad, serve others, short temptered, and vary bad persons. They are childish, slow in the work of their lord (nidhana-drohi), wide eyed, endowed with fish sign in eyes, develop enemity with his own people, highly stingy and stubborn.
Those born in the third pada(Foot) are chatter boxes, slow, idle, interested in doing silly jobs, stingy and thieves. They suffer from windy diseases.

[Moonshine]

Hi Astrobhadauria
My descendant is in Scorpio I don't know if it is the same degree as my ascendant which is 25.37 Taurus. In Vedic how does this describe my partner and his personality - please answer.

Moonshine

[astrobhadauria]

Dear,
Vrischika (Scorpio) descendant The body of the native of this descendant is well proportioned. Hands are generally long. The stature is above average. Face is broad with commanding appearance. Such natives have generally a good personality. The native of this lagna is a particulary determined individual. He will crush the obstacles before him and move forward. He has a fertile imagination and sharp intelligence. He is emotional but possesses remarkable intuitive power. He has self assertion, courage, resolution, independence and forcefulness. He is highly sexy and has relations with many women. A good Vrischika native evinces great interest in occult sciences and spritual experiments. The natives of this lagna have a harsh tongue. They are revengeful and vindicative. They love to criticise others and establish their superiority. The domestic life of a person with this lagna can be happy only if every member of the family is submissive to him.

[tikana]

Actually, it not only describes your partner but what kindof people you are attracted to.

i have Aquarius 23 aquarius.
my uranus conj sun, merc, trine mars, square saturn. I must have an oddball goofball person next to me.. i cannot stand normal people.

Tik

[sara31tx]

Descendant in Aries 24degree's 16' 24
7th House has Jupitor in Aries
and Chiron in Aries

[Dark_Uranian]

Scorpio descendant 2°36'20 here! :D


I agree with Howl description about each sign descendant. But i dont really like possesive or intense partner, they tend to make me runaway from them...

So far, none of my previous partner or current one describe my descendant or vice versa. And I never attract any Scorpio person in my life ( real love relationship I mean). I dunno why Gemini person always come in and out as my partner.

And currently, now Im with Cancer person. And it's like riding a roller coaster... :confused:

[sallyd]

I have Aries descendent and my husband is a Leo with Sag rising and Sag moon - I think that sort of confirms that I like fire.....

His descendent is Gemini and I am Libra rising but also Moon in Aries - it sort of fits I spose....

[enigmas]

my DC is in pisces and I like mysterious boys

[Nessy]

My sympathies to Manic Monday.. I too have a Gemini Descendant/Intercepted Cancer. I too have no partner at the moment.. and I too have met my fair share men who swiftly appear in ones life and swiftly are shunted out or leave on their own accord! The longest term relationship I have had (8 years) was with a Gemini.. the rest have had all the qualities of Gemini but have been other signs..mostly fire! I would like to point out why I think this is.. The Sag Asc... giving the impression of a very independent, freedom loving, confident and fun individual.. is what so many men found attractive about me but was ultimately my downfall.. I attract the intellectual freedom loving type, confident and very self assured... I also had a blind date recently knowing nothing of the individual I was going to meet beforehand.. and as if by magic.. the same again... always!!!!!

[Moulin]

Howl,
Great descriptions! My Aquarius descendant needs freedom FREEDOM! So good l had to say it twice haha

My sun in Taurus loves security and is always fighting with my freedom needs. Most relationships l feel totally suffocated as the other person thinks that when they fear losing me, my free spirit needs reigning in.. which of course only makes me either curl into a ball or run for the hills.

My partner is Leo sun/mars which is conjunct my Asc and opposing my Dsc and l do feel free and unrestricted by him. He nevers asks me petty questions that less confident more needy signs do, so he gets my vote!

His venus is in Libra which goes with my taurus sun. My mars is in taurus, his dsc.

Interestingly, his Dsc/saturn is Taurus - my sun/mercury... I think his moon in sagittarius and his Asc in Scorpio goes passionately with my Aries moon/venus/saturn/n node stellium in 9th (incidentally his 5th ruler is Aries).
He is also a foreigner so l guess he checks all my boxes ;)

*BLISS*

[VenusInAries]

I have Libra Rising and three major relationships in my life. First I have to say that above description of Aries on the 7th house was accurate. For me I don't like being one of those controlling bossy females. No offense, and I do know some men like that - having a woman tell them where to go what to do lol. But me I prefer what I have always called "alpha - males" - so I do think that follows along with my 7th house cusp. I don't like wishy washy men - my Libra rising is wishy washy enough. There can only be one captain of the boat and I don't want it to be me!

I also have Saturn in the 7th house. The father of my baby and someone that was there for me and took care of me like a father was a triple cappy. Don't know where this plays into it but every man I have dated has had Venus in scorp and Mars in Leo. I do have the Sun tittering between 7th and 8th house so maybe Sun there gives the leo? I dont know how I fit into his Cancer 7th house.

I was Married for 5 years I have 22 Libra rising he has 23 Libra rising - he was very alpha malish military stuff..but he liked women controlling him and that is where I drew the line. His saturn in aries conjuncted my venus in aries.. needless to say that sucked..but can't see my 7th house in him too much. Us both having Aries on the 7th house dunno didn't work for me. He was very fatherly like to me I'm sure the saturn in 7th.

This current relationship he has Moon in Aries right on my 7th house, he gets hot under the collar pretty quick like me but lets it go pretty quick I think, I think I am quicker - his Scorp Sun hangs on to stuff a little longer. But he is very alpha maleish - likes to be the captain of the boat - he has leo on his 7th house with mars in there.. so yes I like to look pretty and I guess my venus in aries like to give it as good as I get it so I can be his mars at times I suppose. This time he is 10 years younger then me but he still takes on a fatherly like role to me :) I think my pisces moon (which is in his 1st house) comes across as needing to be taken care of.

Those that have been in long term relationships and marriages though would like to hear what both of your 7th house cusps are.. are there ones that compliment each other better ect?

[pixie1982]

I agree with those descriptions! I have my descendant in Gemini - and when I realised this a few years ago my heart sank - realising I'll always end up with unreliable liar with the gift of the gab - with tales that I'll fall for again and again, being an idealistic sort of leo..

But when I met my current partner - not only a gemini, but sun, asc, venus and mercury all there - I wasn't keen, no gemini types for me I thought. But he is lovely and has completely changed my view. Gemini's aren't necessarily the stereotypical unfaithful naughty suign just as the other stereotypes aren't always correct - all signs have good and bad. All of his gemini planets (except for the mercury) are in his 12th house and he is romantic and sweet - bit like a pisces.

My ascendant (sag) is on his 6th house cusp, and when he says what he likes about me he says that I am witty and fun and also intelligent. I guess he see's that sagg side of me where other past partners would say either caring, or sexy or something less nice, depending on the way our charts interracted.

So I think the dec just shows what qualities we are looking for/ or even subconsciously are attracted to.

[autumnleaf]

I have Scorp ASC/Taurus DC my current beau of 4 yrs has Taurus ASC.

[Charm]

I have Taurus descendant with Jupiter in Taurus in house 7. I also have Neptune in Sag in house 1 and Venus in Pisces and Pisces on house 5. Most of my past boyfriends have been foreign born men. The 2 American men I dated were both Sag's. Sign of ruler of the 5th. I have Mars in Cap and have dated 3 Capricorns. But for my husband I always said I wanted a quiet business man type who was very loving and supportive and from the Caribbean. So this perfectly describes my Jupiter in Taurus. BTW every man I have been in love with have had Venus in Sag. So there Venus has been in the same sign as the ruler of my 5th!

[Undo]

You learn 800 new things here every day. I never knew that your descendant describes your partner so... It makes perfect sense, given the past relationships I've been in as opposed to the women I wish I -could- be with.

I'm a Sun/Moon Cancer with a Leo Rising, my descendant is of course, Aquarius. I don't know why, but I'm attracted to free spirited women. I don't mind so much despite being a cancer, as long as I know I'm #1 to them. I think my Venus in Gemini also helps make this a little easier, since I hate to be tied down in a straitjacket form of relationshi which I seem to enter into a lot.

It seems pretty funky from a purely stereotypical astrological standpoint. Cancer + Aquarius seems to be a definite no-no in terms of Sun signs.

[autumnleaf]

You learn 800 new things here every day. I never knew that your descendant describes your partner so... It makes perfect sense, given the past relationships I've been in as opposed to the women I wish I -could- be with.

I'm a Sun/Moon Cancer with a Leo Rising, my descendant is of course, Aquarius. I don't know why, but I'm attracted to free spirited women. I don't mind so much despite being a cancer, as long as I know I'm #1 to them. I think my Venus in Gemini also helps make this a little easier, since I hate to be tied down in a straitjacket form of relationshi which I seem to enter into a lot.


I'm a free spirited woman, yet I seem to attract men who want to control or "tame" me rather than just run with me. I feel like I'm in a straightjacket if I try to go with what that Taurus DC says. The relationship ends really quick when I do that. For whatever reason, I have a deep fear in the pit of my being about being controlled, owned, tamed, or getting my independence squashed by someone else.
I tried dating a Sagi Sun, Aqua Moon, Gem Asc and it was great as far as having somebody to travel and have fun with, but he turned out to be very controlling and an abusive alcoholic. :(

I've come to the conclusion that some of us are just not meant to marry or have any kind of a fulfilling relationship where you're allowed to be yourself.

[Undo]

I'm a free spirited woman, yet I seem to attract men who want to control or "tame" me rather than just run with me. I feel like I'm in a straightjacket if I try to go with what that Taurus DC says. The relationship ends really quick when I do that. For whatever reason, I have a deep fear in the pit of my being about being controlled, owned, tamed, or getting my independence squashed by someone else.
I tried dating a Sagi Sun, Aqua Moon, Gem Asc and it was great as far as having somebody to travel and have fun with, but he turned out to be very controlling and an abusive alcoholic. :(

I've come to the conclusion that some of us are just not meant to marry or have any kind of a fulfilling relationship where you're allowed to be yourself.

Well, some people will always try to control or "tame". Try attracting free-spirited people while needing considerable reassurance. ;) Alot of them seem to despise giving reassurance. But, I don't really care what they do or where they go as long as I know where they stand with me.
Sorry he turned out to be a typical "winner". :(

Part of my attraction to and from them, could stem from my inability to actually settle down. No matter how hard I want to have a comitted relationship, I feel like I'm unable to find it. I guess I just expect fireworks or explosions with people you connect with on a deeper level.

Well, that's not as bad as coming to a conclusion where you realize you're always going to be moody. ;)

[autumnleaf]

Part of my attraction to and from them, could stem from my inability to actually settle down. No matter how hard I want to have a comitted relationship, I feel like I'm unable to find it. I guess I just expect fireworks or explosions with people you connect with on a deeper level.

Well, that's not as bad as coming to a conclusion where you realize you're always going to be moody. ;)

Yep, I can totally relate. I keep thinking I want to settle down, and I have that opportunity now but it totally lacks all "fireworks and explosions". This relationship didn't reach in and grab me like the one with the Sagi did. My heart did flip flops when I first laid eyes on him. The Leo I've been with for four years is a complete opposite. No drugs or drinking....ever! He's everything a girl looks for in a mate, yet I can't bring myself to commit to marriage.

Mr. Leo:
Asc Taurus
Sun Leo
Moon Pisces
Venus Cancer
Mars Capricorn (I think)

Ms. Scorpio
Asc, Sun, Venus Scorpio
Moon Pisces
Mars Aquarius

Looks great on paper, and is a very comfortable, relaxing relationship without and spark or excitement. It has me very confused.

[Undo]

Yep, I can totally relate. I keep thinking I want to settle down, and I have that opportunity now but it totally lacks all "fireworks and explosions". This relationship didn't reach in and grab me like the one with the Sagi did. My heart did flip flops when I first laid eyes on him. The Leo I've been with for four years is a complete opposite. No drugs or drinking....ever! He's everything a girl looks for in a mate, yet I can't bring myself to commit to marriage.

Mr. Leo:
Asc Taurus
Sun Leo
Moon Pisces
Venus Cancer
Mars Capricorn (I think)

Ms. Scorpio
Asc, Sun, Venus Scorpio
Moon Pisces
Mars Aquarius

Looks great on paper, and is a very comfortable, relaxing relationship without and spark or excitement. It has me very confused.

I wouldn't even know how to begin to dissect that! (Still a beginner)
That's completely odd as for the no drugs/drinking ever. From what I've noticed about Leos, they seem to be the social drinkers. Though, I rarely drink myself.

To be honest, it could be the Mars in Capricorn with other aspects that make him lack "spark or excitement". Those guys tend to generally be cool-headed (without any aspects).

[zohra]

:38: mine did but also show their true colour in longterm

descendant virgo intercepte house mercury in aquarius 11th house. Jupiter/uranus/sn in libra 7th house

1st childhood sweatheart aquarius ascendant pisces , sweet but extra affair behind my back

2nd 18 year long term relationship
Aquarius asc capricorn (my sun capricorn conjonct is venus) nasty piece, 2 faces, manipulator and a great cheater. I was glad to finish him

3rd current relationship (the closest to my ideal), caring, kind, thoughtfull and in love
Aquarius asc virgo (mercury lord of my 7) he is my second partner (lord 9 jupiter) in my 7 house trine mercury Lord 7 so i guess he is the one

on his part i am his second partner (Lord 9 ) venus, conjonct jupiter in 7th house pisces trine saturn (lord 5) , I am 6 years older than him

[autumnleaf]

I wouldn't even know how to begin to dissect that! (Still a beginner)
That's completely odd as for the no drugs/drinking ever. From what I've noticed about Leos, they seem to be the social drinkers. Though, I rarely drink myself.

To be honest, it could be the Mars in Capricorn with other aspects that make him lack "spark or excitement". Those guys tend to generally be cool-headed (without any aspects).


I wasn't looking for an answer necessarily, but I didn't think about his Mars in Cappy being a "damper" on his spark. That does explain a little bit. Thanks :39: