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interglossa
10-26-2009, 01:52 AM
Dear vedic astrologers,
Please answer me if there is a chance of me getting married while Saturn is in Virgo?
DoB 09 December 1965, at 05:09 h
Place of birth Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, daylight saving time
geographical coordinates for Rio de Janeiro 43 06 W, 22 53 S

As I have Saturn and Venus in 7th in Navamsa, and am running Saturn dasa Venus antardasha period, I was wondering if the Saturn transit in Virgo might give me a chance of getting married?
Thank you very much and God bless you

starlink
10-26-2009, 04:06 PM
Interglossa, could you please put up a chart for your Vedic Astrologers to look at?
That would be very helpful. Thank you!

Starlink

interglossa
10-26-2009, 04:24 PM
Dear Starlink,
I'm sorry but I don't know how to do this. When I go on the links with free on line horoscopes I can't copy the chart.
Hopefully someone has a program on the computer and will then see the chart.
Thank you

ian wood
10-27-2009, 01:08 AM
rahu is the key as it is the nakshatra ruler of saturn and in 7th house at birthyour desire in this life is for relationship. next month rahu will transit into sagitarius this is your 2nd house (family life) and is 7th from your moon .this transit will last 18 month and should give the opportunity for a relationship during this period............you have a difficult placement of mars in your 2nd house which is also 7th from your moon this will cause problems for family life due to money problems especially in next 5 month when mars is fallen in 2nd house from moon which is your 9th house take care to avoid conflict with your father.it is not an easy chart for married life but it is the area that you will learn and grow.not without difficulty

Virinchi
10-27-2009, 02:35 AM
saturn in virgo has nothing to do with ur marriage
ur entire saturn dasa will be boring and you'll feel dejected in many issues as its being controlled by rahu in 8th H, though sun in 2nd H being sublord stops things from getting worse.
bw 2009-12 sat-venus period will be somewhat tough on you, though both are friendly planets and both are beneficiery for your lagna.
you will get attracted to someone during this period but it may not end up with marriage.
however sat-sun is most fav. time for marriage
sun being controlled by planets in 2nd and planet owing 2nd H, it'll give u a family between 2012-13

interglossa
10-27-2009, 03:45 AM
Dear Ian
Thank you very much for replying. Yes I am craving for a relationship, but I am very depressed and lonely as I can't manage to keep any. I hope your words are true regarding the forthcoming period.

Is it only a possibility of a relationship without marriage during Rahu transit in Sagit.? What about marriage meaning living with someone under the same roof?


Dear Virinchi.
Thank you also for replying, but isn't my Sun in the first house and Rahu in seventh. Not Sun in 2th and Rahu in 8th? Does this change the time meaning 2012/13?

starlink
10-27-2009, 09:47 AM
Interglossa, here is a link which can help you uploading a chart. It is easy to follow. You must always safe the chart first on your computer. You cannot upload it directly from Astrodienst, at least, I have never done it that way. See if this helps, if not, we will help you.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/paperclip.gif (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=22#) http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/subscribed.gif http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/sticky.gif Sticky: Attaching Chart as a Thumbnail! (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126) (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/multipage.gif 1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126) 2 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126&page=2))

Starlink

Virinchi
10-28-2009, 07:10 AM
what has daylight saving time to do in december?
i use this
http://www.astrogle.com/download/jagannatha-hora-vedic-horoscope-software.html
software which automatically takes into account all daylight or not based on DOB

interglossa
10-28-2009, 10:14 AM
I hope this will help, I have attached my chart but Western horoscope not vedic.

Virinchi
10-28-2009, 11:32 AM
that cant be applied in vedic
you need to reduce ayanamsa
thats y i got your asc. to be libra

interglossa
10-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Finally :)

ian wood
10-28-2009, 12:43 PM
I hope this will help, I have attached my chart but Western horoscope not vedic.
thank you that has confirmed that i am reading same horoscope as you not sure how virinchi gets vedic libra asc.can only get that if i use double summer time which seems unlkely(2 hours summer time correction)i notice you have strong pluto conj uranus which tends to give psychological problems stemming from childhood and time spent in womb experiencing emotions of mother who who may have rejected the fathers paternity in some way.saturn in 4th house reveals she didnt feel warmth and protection when carrying you .you are left feeling needy and out in the cold at times, which is very depressing.this latent neediness is a big turn off for women who look for the strong father for their children.you can hide this but as you open up emotionally these feelings surface and you become clinging.also your unconcious is programmed to undermine the mother which affects any long term relationship.you may want to consider counselling or homeopathy to addess these issues.only when we are coming from a real none needy place can we have something to offer in a relationship involving children.so we are not competing with the child for the mothers love.in short yes you have the desire but are you ready emotionally? your unconcious will block and spoil untill you have addressed these issues.this is difficult i wish you success in your endevours. i am puzzled by use of daylight saving time but as i dont have this info for brazil i wont attempt any more vedic predictions as we need accuracy my above comments apply for chart with or without time correction as saturn still in 4th house(placidus )and still pluto conjunct uranus.

interglossa
10-28-2009, 12:52 PM
Dear Ian
Thank you. Yes you are absolutely right, both regarding my parents, and unfortunately my desperate desire to have and be in a normal relationship. Tell me can you predict a relationship with someone in the very near future? Or perhaps marriage? I have been involved with a person 10 years my senior, but we somehow broke up suddenly and off course I am still hoping to make it up again. He was born 15 May 1956 in Podgorica, Montenegro, I am not sure about the time but he says around 8h a.m. He is a widower since 2000, with two children.

Virinchi
10-28-2009, 01:12 PM
i get that chart only if i use LMT, which is used for dates before wordl war-2
but u were born in 1965 so i didnt use it. it could be a mistake on my part !

nevertheless, pluto and all have no place in vedic astro. infact the planets you see in telescope are not same what you see in a vedic chart.

if i go by your chart, sat-venus period till 2011 sept will not support marriage as venus is on constellation owned by sun and sun being in 1st H and owner of 10th H doesnt support family formation.

so it shouli happen only durring venus-sun or venus-moon
between 2012-13 as sun's sublord is mars and moon's constelaltion lord is mars and Mars being in 2nd H, supports a family formation.
also rahu in 7th house signifies moon as its in constellation owned by moon.
so all matters related to 2nd(family) and 7th(spouse) will happen between 2012-13

ian wood
10-28-2009, 01:24 PM
virinchi i checked with j.hora and got libra rising like you but it gave time zone difference of 1 hour west .my horoscope explorer indicates 3 hour west. as rio is (approx)45 deg west it would indicate 3 hour correction.it seems strange to have any correction for summer time as it is winter and so close to tropics.hope someone can throw some light on this

starlink
10-28-2009, 01:34 PM
Virinchi, you make me feel like learning Vedic Astrology, but I am afraid I am too old for that now, but it sure does look very interesting. Cant do it all unfortunately!!

Starlink.

Virinchi
10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
@ianwood
yes. i noticed that error of timezone and corrected it to get scorpio Asc.
brazil is 3 hrs west of GMT

@starlink
learn k.p directly. dont go for outdated and old fashioned vedic methods which are constantly failing to give accurate predictions.
k.p can be learned from a series of 6 books and then start applying it.

i wanted to learn western and how progressive charts are used to predict future events, but a learned man who studied both western and vedic once advised me that i dont need anything else as i've already studied k.p and no other method in world is more accurate than this..so i just stuck to it

ian wood
10-28-2009, 02:20 PM
thanks virinchi i assume your last prognosis is for this .with 1 hour summertime correction. for some reason i had block in seeing brazil has summer in dec. original chart it seems was correct .logic quite often confuses my instinct .look forward to continue to learn by your examples.sorry to post about outer planets on vedic section but am moved by my desire to help in any way i can.

starlink
10-28-2009, 04:49 PM
learn k.p directly


Virinchi, I am a bit lost when it comes to initials. Mmm.... what does K.P stand for exactly?

interglossa
10-28-2009, 05:07 PM
Dear Virinchi, Ian and Starlink
I am sure that it is daylight saving time, it lasted for a couple of months in 1965. I have the link http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html

where in Portuguese
http://pcdsh01.on.br/Icones/MarcadorBolaPeqAzul_03.ico N° 57.303 (http://pcdsh01.on.br/HV57303.htm) de 22/11/1965.
Período: 24h de 30/11/1965 até 00h de 31/03/1966.
Obs.: Todo o Território Nacional. you can see that there was a decree relating to summer time.

I hope this solves the problem :)

Virinchi
10-29-2009, 02:32 AM
@starlink
K.P is krishnamurti paddathi , a method derived by prof. krishnamurti, which calculates to the minute divisions of cusps and planetary positions based on a vedic chart and it eliminates the usage of other divisional charts like navamsa(D-9), D-4, D-7, D-10 etc.

vedic has divided a sign into constellations with 4 quadrants each, but K.P has further divided each constellation into 9 parts, which are subdivisions and lords of them are sublords.
so, minutest calculation gives which planet is controlled by which constellation andn sublord and same for cusps of 12 houses.

to get a clear answer to a question like when will i marry ?
k.p tells you :
1. will you marry at all ?
2. timing of marriage
3. features of spouse
4. how and when will you meet them
5. relation between both after marriage
6. kids
7. divorce possibility
8. 2nd marriage

and much more

well, marriage is just an example i gave as many keep asking marriage related queries.
K.P can be applied to just any query, even horary too

@interglossa
we tried that.
i can see love and an existing relation between 2008-11 but marriage only after that

interglossa
10-29-2009, 05:28 AM
Dear Virinchi

Thank you very, very much for your time and attention.
If I am not bothering you could you tell me a couple of more thnigs.

1. Existing relationship between 2008-2011. You see I did not have anyone until this summer and then got involved with a widower 10 years my senior. He broke up with me suddenly and now I am in pain. Is that the relationship you mean? Or someone else maybe? (meaning maybe we have a chance of making it up again).
2, You mentioned that you can predict when and how I will meet him (husband)? Could you tell me that. Or maybe when and how I will meet the relationship you mentioned until 2011. Is it only one relationship in this period? Is it that widower or not?
3. Is there a possibility of having a long relationship that ends in marriage after 2011?
4. The features of my husband.
5. Please see that if I somehow get married will the marriage last with no divorce.

I would be very grateful if you could answer me.
GOD BLESS YOU and THANK YOU FROM MY HEART.

Virinchi
10-29-2009, 03:27 PM
i cant answer all as they require deeper study
bust a quickie for you..

he'll be from a place east or south-east to your place.
if this relation will go beyond 2011 and end as marriage can only be done by comparing both charts more deeper
rahu in 7th H shows no satisfaction derived from marriage whomsoever you marry
divorce is not seen but temporary seperations cant be prevented
most of the quarrels will be due to bad temper

thats all i can say right now

interglossa
10-29-2009, 04:14 PM
rahu in 7th H shows no satisfaction derived from marriage whomsoever you marry
divorce is not seen but temporary seperations cant be prevented
most of the quarrels will be due to bad temper


Thank you Virinchi very much and I hope sometime you'll have the time and analyze this more deeply. I am very grateful for the time you spent on me. May God bless you!

As far as Rahu is concerned I'm tired of separations as they all seem to leave me and never come back. Really I am tired.
Thanks once again.
p.s. I would really like to know if it will be one relationship from now to end in marriage fortunately, and not several as I have really no more energy :( :( :(

Virinchi
10-29-2009, 04:28 PM
its not the question of time.
this forum is not for deeper and professional readings
so i limited it there
also astrology is not my profession
i do it as hobby out of my own interest whenever i find time

coming back to relations, dont expect too much of current relation too as it may also break by 2011
your lesson in life , by the time you grow old will be, not to expect anything from anyone

starlink
10-29-2009, 08:42 PM
also astrology is not my profession
i do it as hobby out of my own interest whenever i find time




Well, Virinchi, you are doing a good job at it! Thank you for the explanation of K.P.
It looks like you can see almost anything with this method! Most impressive.

interglossa
10-29-2009, 09:10 PM
Thank you Virinchi as well as all of you for the time and interest in my situation.
May God bless you all!