Will he pass the exam ?

[Minami]

My friend attended an Exam for government job last Saturday.
I erected a chart for him a day before, by asking if he will pass or not.
Here is the chart :
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_w2at_03_exam_hp.7154.14333.gif&res=63&va=&cid=ij5file8ySveA-u1253510981

Belows are my findings, but I am new to horary, hope there is anyone could advise their opinions upon my judge.:happy: Tks !!

Querent : Jupiter
Exam : Venus (10H)
Moon : in 6th (gemini), and square to its ruler -- Mercury

Venus : in virgo, detriment by Mercury.
Saturn makes conjunction to both Mercury and Venus, is it implied any unfortune here ?

10H for Exam : Sun is there, and it trine both Jupiter and Moon, I think it brings light to the result and give good fortune to Querent.
So I think my friend would hv chance to get Pass....don't know if I am right or not....

[starlink]

Minami, your chart expired. Try to do it this way:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/paperclip.gif (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=22#) http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/subscribed.gif http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/sticky.gif Sticky: Attaching Chart as a Thumbnail! (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126)

These charts do not expire.

[starlink]

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/tag.png http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/trashcan_small.gif http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/misc/sticky.gif Sticky: How to Read a Horary Chart: The Basics (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782)

And this might help you to understand Horary better. There are also more articles beneath this one, very useful. Do read them and you will see that for instance trines in horary are not the same as trines in natal astrology. We only talk about ingoing and outgoing aspects in horary and the faster planet always has to approach the slower one. That planet can therefore already have past that trine or is going to make that trine. It means that either some things still will happen (ingoing) or already have past (outgoing). Outgoing aspects often show a no also.

Hope this will help you.

Starlink

[Minami]

Hi Starlink,

Many thanks for your advise, I attached the chart again.
And I will go to read that article, tks !

Best Wishes,
Minami

[fensi88]

Because you ask about your friend, friend is 11 house matter, ruler of 11 hosuse Ma. To pass exam is his turned 10th house matter i.e. radical 8 house ruller that is Moon. See if there is applaying aspect between rulers or if some planet collect the lights of rulers and that will be answer on your question.

[Minami]

Actually he is my boyfriend, so I should take 7th House as his significator if turning chart, right ?

However, how about if he asked this question and I erected the chart for him ? Can I treat he is the querent and simply use the 1st House for him ?:unsure:

[fensi88]

Actually he is my boyfriend, so I should take 7th House as his significator if turning chart, right ?
If you ask the question, as you said in your first post, and he is your boyfriend than, yes, he is represented with 7 house ruler.

... if he asked this question and I erected the chart for him ? Can I treat he is the querent and simply use the 1st House for him ?:unsure:
Yes, of course!

[starlink]

OK Minami, thanks for putting up the chart, that helps!!:)

OK, now you must tell us if you asked this question or if HE asked it and you did the chart for that question. As Fensi said, in the 1st case YOU are the Ascendant, in the 2nd case, HE is the Asc. So which one is it?

The 10th house is actually the "success" and the exam is usually the 3rd house ruler.
So look for an ingoing aspect between his significator (being the 7th or the 1st, according to whom asked the question). That is the first thing to look for.

[Minami]

Ok, I take the 1st case as I worried about him so I asked the question.
I am the asc, in 1st house, that is Jupiter.

As per Starlink's advice, 3rd is Exam ruler, which is also Jupiter.
10th house is the result, it rules by Venus, which falls in 9th house(Virgo)
Sun in 10th house, it falls in Libra...

The only aspect for Jupiter I can find is Sun trine it, what is the meaning of this ?

Moreover, 7th house respresent my boyfriend, which ruler is Moon.
Moon is in 6th house which is cadent, does it means his power is weak ?

Any hints can be further advised to me ?

Thanks !!

Cheers,
Minami

[starlink]

I am the asc, in 1st house, that is Jupiter.




OK, thanks. Well, then we look at the 7th for him and take his 3rd for the exam, As per Starlink's advice, 3rd is Exam ruler, which is also Jupiter.
no Minami, that would be YOUR exam, not his. We have to look at all this from HIS perspective and see the 7th house as the 1st house for him.

which is also ruled by Mercury. Often when you see this, the answer is yes. Now you can also look and see if he/the exam, has been successful. The 10th house of the 7th is "his success" and ruled by Mars. Mercury will sextile Mars, so I guess that he maybe passed the exam. Mercury is also in his exaltation and domicile which show strength and Mars is accidentally dignified in his 1st house (showing "Success comes to him")
Mercury just left Saturn which you can also see as a disciplined situation of sorts, very much like an exam. It could have been difficult.

The only thing I am worried about is that the South Node, which is malific, is conjunct Mars exactly! This shows also a fateful situation. (maybe if he does not pass then he will quit his studies?). You should have put the Part of Fortune in here. You can still look at that chart in astrodienst and add the POF. see where it is.

[Minami]

Hi Starlink,

Many thanks for your interpretation !
Learnt a lot from your reply, which encourage my study.

I hv added POF on the chart and attached here again.
POF is in late degree of Leo, and semi-sextile Mercury.
Does it make any effect to the outcome ?

Cheers,
Minami

[starlink]

Hi again. Thanks for finding the POF. The conjunctions and oppositions seem to be the only one's worth looking at (According to Frawley but not according to Hamaker Zondag) but a minor aspect I would never use in horary. What you can see as positive maybe, involving POF, is that it's ruler, the Sun, is placed in his 4th house, the house which shows how the matter will end.

Looking at the Moon who shows the development of a situation in a chart, you can see that it has passed the trine to the Sun, but will trine Jupiter, the great benific, then sextile the POF before leaving her sign. Maybe that shows a good ending.

Lets cross fingers and wait and see! Let me know yes?

Starlink

[Minami]

Hi Starlink,

Thanks for giving advice on the POF, great to hear it will lead to a good ending !:lol:

From your previous reply, you said Mercury just left Saturn which shows a disciplined situation, yes, my boyfriend said this exam is very difficult...

One more thing shocked me is you mentioned the South Node conjunct Mars shows fateful situation.
YES, if he does not pass, he is not able to get his desired government job.
And he once said that if he failed this exam, it would frustrated him and he will not re-take the exam again and forget that government job !

Results will be released within one month, I must report to u at once.
Fingers cross ! :smile:

Cheers,
Minami

[Minami]

Hi Starlink,

Just receipt the exam result today.
There are total 4 papers, 2 passed and 2 failed....

Actually these 4 papers are individual papers, people can re-take the failed paper next time separately.
But for applying government job, all 4 papers need to get "Pass" results.
So for my boyfriend, he thought that he failed the exam :sad:

Do you think there is any missing hints on the chart can show this actual result ?

Thanks !

Cheers/Minami

[starlink]

The only thing I am worried about is that the South Node, which is malific, is conjunct Mars exactly!


So sorry to hear this! I think it must have something to do with the above quote. I always underestimate the (malific) strength of the South Node. What a shame!
Also, I now realized, the Sun in the 10th is in Libra, a sign where the Sun is peregrine. I guess these two factors might have been the cause. Mercury (general signifier for exams and everything to do with papers and communication) and being HIS 3rd house ruler, is heading for the Sun, in other words, he is under the Sunbeams. I should have seen that. I must have had my head turned the wrong way when I interpreted this chart. I am sorry to have given you hope for this situation. I do hope he will not give up and re-do the other two exams again.

[Minami]

Hi Starlink,

No, don't feel sorry about this, you are always Great :happy: !

This Art is incredible, just thought that every chart does gives us inspiration and can learn more case by case.

I will support and encourage my boyfriend to take the exam again !
So do I , will continue study this path :wink:

Thanks !

Cheers/Minami