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Howl
06-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Hey folks :)

Now, I've read many explanations of the significance of house six. I am particularly interested, because I have sun, mercury and neptune all hanging out in there (sagittarius). However, I don't feel like I've worked out a really satisfactory concept of what the sixth house means to me. I can't 'see it', if you know what I mean.

So, I am appealing to you for your personal impressions! What houses (and/or signs) do you have in the sixth, and what does it mean to you?

Shower me with wisdom ;)

Rubella
06-11-2006, 12:30 PM
The sixth house is one of the house I do not fully understand as well... so I'd be glad for an explanation too! I have a Venus in Pisces, ruler of my ascendant, and she's giving me some trouble... my hard aspects are square saturn and square uranus, those two do not play nice.

Personally I would move her to conjunct the ascendant to insure myself stunning good looks, but that's just me :-P

sajalgwl
06-11-2006, 12:42 PM
Hello

R u there

sajalgwl
06-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Hello Rubella and How!

Sixth House is very serious house and this house can be create lot of animy and lot of dieseas if your planatirial posstion is not strong and if your planatirial possition is very strong so your enimy and dieseas can be self collepsed.

Rubella
06-11-2006, 12:47 PM
I thought my ill aspected Venus will indicate a bad love life, not a bad health!

Lorielle
06-11-2006, 02:11 PM
6th house... Moon in Leo. My mood affects my health. Stressed and/or depressed and I either don't eat, or what I do eat doesn't stay with me long.

sam
06-11-2006, 02:17 PM
I have a sixth house stellium including Sun, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn. On top of that, I have Moon in Virgo... talk about pedantic ;)

Sixth house is also small animals and pets, and Sagittarius is one of those outdoorsy signs that love animals, Howl, so maybe you like animals or have a lot of pets?

Lorielle
06-11-2006, 02:22 PM
Oh yeah! Pets. :) My only "child" is a Scottish Terrier.

Howl
06-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Bwahaha! I'm allergic to just about every animal under the sun :D

Perhaps it's that neptune in saggie in the sixth house ;)
It's not that I don't like them, they just make me itch.

I have heard about the relationship with health and the sixth, but there's always a focus on susceptibility. What I want to know is, what are the POSITIVE things about having planets in the sixth? I don't want to have three planets parked in the house of 'susceptible to poor health'.

I want some sagittarian optimism about what I can do with those planets there. So Sam, you too have neptune sun and mercury in the sixth? What do you associate those placements with?

Lorielle
06-11-2006, 02:25 PM
I know that having the Moon in Pisces makes me like working in a place where I like the people I work with. I tend to mother the co-workers. :)

Howl
06-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Thanks Lorielle :) Why did I think you were a leo moon in the sixth? Must've read your chart wrong at some point.

Also, I feel that there's an overemphasis, or simplification, surrounding the word 'work' for the sixth. Perhaps this is because I so rarely hold a traditional 'job' and so don't feel that my sixth house shows up in the 'work place'.

Actually, most people don't 'work' in a strictly defined sense for large periods of their life. At times they are too young, too old, unemployed, studying or raising children. What does your sixth house do then? hmmm.

sam
06-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Bwahaha! I'm allergic to just about every animal under the sun :D

Perhaps it's that neptune in saggie in the sixth house ;)
It's not that I don't like them, they just make me itch.

I have heard about the relationship with health and the sixth, but there's always a focus on susceptibility. What I want to know is, what are the POSITIVE things about having planets in the sixth? I don't want to have three planets parked in the house of 'susceptible to poor health'.

I want some sagittarian optimism about what I can do with those planets there. So Sam, you too have neptune sun and mercury in the sixth? What do you associate those placements with?

Hmm... to be honest, I don't know :P

Sixth house correlates to Virgo and the sextile. Energy there is colored by the Mercurial nature of Virgo (words, communication, etc.). Some keywords are health/diseases/cures, pets, hobbies, attitude towards work (jobs themselves would be shown by tenth), service.

The sun is the father, life force, core, center, ultimate expression of our psyche, and can show where someone is devoted and expresses the male/yang aspect of their psyche (moon being the feminine/yin). Sun in the sixth would express itself through health, service, seriousness. The extreme masculinity of the Sun would be muted in the sixth, a feminine house.

I read somewhere that Mercury in the sixth can make someone very sensitive to their environment.

As far as Neptune, I haven't the slightest. :(

Elianah
06-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Hi everyone,

My 6th house cusp is 14° Taurus 58 and it has a little over eight degrees in Gemini.

For me, when I look at the 6th house, I look at what type of service to the Earth my soul wants to provide within this incarnation. Service includes work, vocation, avocation, mentoring and volunteering. How well one is doing the service component will influence the health component of the 6th house. The more of your avocations you can incorporate into your chosen vocation and then find a workplace that can use them to benefit all, not just their narrow concerns.

In my experience, many people think vocation = work. This is not really the truth, but it is how many have been trained over the millennia to respond to the idea of vocation. I'd like to propose a different approach and if it resonates for you, please use it. If it needs tweeking for it to resonate with you, please do that. If it does not resonate at all with you, please feel free to throw it into File 13.

What is it that you do that really resonates with you fully? Those things that make you feel fully and totally connected into everything, what are they? Whatever is on that list are the avocational services that your soul gave to you to provide in your own unique way in this incarnation. They are the services which the Earth, in all of its forms and dimensions, needs and can only receive them in your unique presentation. These skills are the ones that you combine to create your vocation of service to the Earth. The more of them you can combine together and use to benefit all pulls you into deeper resonance with your soul.

Let me give you an example of one of my unintegrated avocations that I do not use all that often: poetry. I love writing poetry and I have a unique style of expressing myself in it. It is not surprising that I have this ability because Taurus is also the undertone of my 5th house. It makes me feel truly connected with all when I do it, which is not very much. I have not found a way yet to integrate that avocation into the vocational matrix.

Vocation is the way one expresses the avocational services indicated by the signs located within the 6th House into the world. This is the feeling of "what I can truly and honestly give to you that will fulfill the services I am meant to give on Earth at this time." The more one can give this through the work environment, the happier the person doing the work is.

Work is the stage that ultimately the vocation is shown on, in theory. The reality, however, is that the workplace very rarely chooses to tap into the vocational matrix in total, only the pieces that will fit its narrow agenda. This is why ailments from the workplace environment develop, in my opinion. The person wants to provide more service than the workplace chooses to use and the narrowness of the scope of the usage of the those pieces affects the body. The area of the body that will be affected the most will be those ruled by the sign(s) found in the 6th House.

If the workplace is unable to put into action the vocational services of the person, it is up to that person to find the mentoring and volunteer venues that will put the vocational matrix into the greatest action. The more mentoring and volunteering one does that vibrate to the service that the soul came into provide, the less effect the workplace environment will have on the person's health.

The key here, I believe, is to understand what the 6th house sign(s) (and planets located within, if any) are saying about what the soul's service in this incarnation is. You don't have to believe in reincarnation to know that your soul has a service plan for your life. How you choose to meet that service plan will affect how your body responds with health or disease. The more you understand and put into motion your full service plan, the healthier you will be, I believe. The more unconscious you are about your service plan, the greater the chances are that you will attract dis-eased states that will start their manifestations in the signs located in the 6th House.

Elianah

Howl
06-11-2006, 07:10 PM
Hallo, that’s what I was looking for!

Thank you Elianah :D

Avocation, I haven’t heard the word before but it seems like a concept that I’m going to adopt. I feel the total focus and flowing self into the world, when I am:

drawing
talking to a person honestly about their self, feelings, being
expressing myself openly in the same way
touching people, physically, in affection because I want to
using my body to express
alone, and with myself, or walking and thinking
writing a truth in a way that says what would otherwise be unsaid
finding the common meaning between myself and someone else
understanding what is important to people, what they are hesitant to show because it’s so close to the core of them

So, my list of avocations, don’t coincide too much with any work place I can think of!! This is a really valuable way of looking at it. I’ve always known which things I do give me the ‘total connect’ feeling, and having a way to try and consciously build these into my roles in life is very much what I am after :)

I often feel that I have to much to 'do', and that I don't know where and how to 'do' it, which is partially why I don't find myself in any regular sort of workplace too often. However, to use your words, not having a true vocation for my avocations leaves me needing to feel more fully engaged. Partially, I think that it's hard to 'prove' the value of what I really WANT to do, and find a space to do it, within the framework of 'work'. You know, reconcile all that fluffy stuff I said with the ability to command finances and so forth! The inability to do so satisfactorily (as yet) leaves me feeling vaguely guilty and impractical.

I'm sure I'm not the only one :)

Lapis
06-11-2006, 10:56 PM
Well - Pluto intercepted in Leo thank you very much! Don't need anything else there.

Sam.....great Bet photo/avatar!:cool:

At the moment transiting Saturn is here too for me, adding to the overall sense of fun and adventure. Yes I'm being mildly sarcastic. ;) I think the houses can each be interpreted at different levels......mundane, emotional, physical, esoteric, spiritual, karmic and so on. Just one across-the-board flat house meaning isn't full enough for me, and I hope it's not for anyone else. The House meanings have, in many cases, deteriorated into such petty little **** meanings that it's embarrassing!

With the 6th house I sense so much Chiron energies interwoven with all the 'things' ruled by it. Health, hygiene, foods, eating proplems, sensitivites, disorders, allergies etc. The whole small animals and pets thing. The employer/employee/co-worker business on all those levels! Hobbies and/or things you really enjoy doing that pull in that inner healing side of the 6th house. The ability through focused work (from anything like house cleaning to drawing blueprints and everything inbetween) to enter an altered state of consciousness and exit (move beyond Saturn time/physical reality) 'normal' reality and awareness and enter Chiron's bridge to Uranus and beyond. Like 'trance dance' or Shamanic activities that alter your consciousness.....very Chiron and also 6th house IMO.

To me the 6th house is where we can, usually through illness, physical pain, pretty severe health problems, intense focused physical work of any type, the pure joy and love of our pets etc., we exit this reality for brief periods of physical time. So in some strange ways to me at least, and maybe it's my Pluto there???, the 6th house is one of the houses where we easily leave physical reality through the 'things' of that house.

Francesca
06-11-2006, 10:59 PM
The sixth is the house of the"work" you do for others, the way you do service for your community. Think about your Sag placements and aspects for a while in this light.

23
06-12-2006, 06:33 AM
Hello
I have to pretty much agree the 6th house is about service and the others things that others have said. I also agree it does seem chironic. I think I might have read that another "ruler" (or something with strong affinity with 6th house) of the 6th house is indeed chiron.

I see it as the service house pretty much. Having Sag on it with planets being in Sag and 6th house probably indicates a sag related service, for example, teaching, law, philosophy politics etc. It could even be something as broad as say public health, the philoshophy behind health.

I have pluto in the 6th house. I'm still waiting to bring down and regenerate the service that I intend to be in. I have been told though that I am very fanatical and serious when it comes to work though.

Here's a link but most the of the info is mentioned in previous posts:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h6.html

Frisiangal
06-12-2006, 08:51 AM
Hi,
Like it or not, the 6th house 'is' connected with how one EMPLOYS one's creative ability (following 5th house) through some kind of service that provides PERSONAL (under horizon) satisfaction. This includes self-service ! Ply 6th house energies into this service and they will not work inwards into the body at some stage in life.
You have Sun-Mercury in Sag. going up against Neptune, which is also the modern ruler of your 9th house in Pisces. That would suggest a strong theme at work regarding 'meaning and reason' behind anything you personally undertake. You could have an altruistic nature, taking up the banner for lost causes of any kind that take you out of, or help you work against the harshness of reality ( square to mars in Virgo). Until you find the 'dream' situation that Neptune seeks in which you can apply your talents and express opinions that will be heard (Sun-Mercury in Sag.), you will be restless ( Sun in Sag.), 'drift' (Neptune) from job to job because nothing provides the ideals (Sag.) you are born to serve (6th house). You may be more humble than egotistical, not have too high an opinion of, and belief in yourself, so temporarily lack the faith(Sun to Neptune) to reach towards those Sagittarian goals.
Could this be the reason behind your saying? :

So, my list of avocations, don’t coincide too much with any work place I can think of!! This is a really valuable way of looking at it. I’ve always known which things I do give me the ‘total connect’ feeling, and having a way to try and consciously build these into my roles in life is very much what I am after :)

I often feel that I have to much to 'do', and that I don't know where and how to 'do' it, which is partially why I don't find myself in any regular sort of workplace too often. However, to use your words, not having a true vocation for my avocations leaves me needing to feel more fully engaged. Partially, I think that it's hard to 'prove' the value of what I really WANT to do, and find a space to do it, within the framework of 'work'. You know, reconcile all that fluffy stuff I said with the ability to command finances and so forth! The inability to do so satisfactorily (as yet) leaves me feeling vaguely guilty and impractical.

To get the 6th house stellium to work well for you, you will need to go further afield and/or set your sights higher towards the goals (Sagittarius). There's much of a 'Seek and Ye shall Find' about Neptune. You mentioned wanting to study overseas: Interesting that you said 'overSEAS' implying an expanse to cross (in more ways than one?), and not 'abroad':). That would suit a Sun-Mercury-Neptune very well. Anything of a Neptunian nature in Sagittarius surroundings will serve well, which could range from bar-tender in a foreign sea port, teaching chemistry, global pollution, to saving souls in a relief shelter for the homeless, etc., but which, through the square to Mars in Virgo, will have to work (Mars) in substantial and real (Virgo), rather than 'fluffy stuff', ways that serve the social system (Sagittarius). Sifting papers in an office is hardly the way of Neptune. People will invariably take advantage and/or misuse your good intent but that's the way of Neptune and what is required of you. You'll probably find that once your mind is out of the 'command of finances' sector and other things are of more importance to you, Neptune in Sagittarius will eventually lead you into a divine philosophy that you can dedicate a 6th house life of service to.

IF the energy does not flow outwardly from yourself but remains inside, being projected onto people/objects from whom you require aid and help, physical indispositions could occur in the region of the body associated with Sagittarius and of the nature of Sun-Mercury-Neptune

Howl
06-12-2006, 09:19 AM
Hi Frisiangal and 23,

Thanks for your thoughts :)

I think you have pinned down something I battle with in the mars (3H virgo) square the stellium in sagittarius (6H). I do find it a challenge to practically act in expression of the ideals that are so important to me. So far, the grand quest has taken me 'overseas' to study twice already as an exchange student and to work as an English teacher. I leave the shores at least once every 2years :)

At the moment, I'm working towards my Masters in Development Studies (which would be called 'third world development', if that weren't a problematic term). The subject matter resonates perfectly, it combines the more societal/universal/expansive aspects with what another astrologer once diagnosed as 'the need to heal' (chiron in the tenth, cancer ascendant and north node, and all those planets in the sixth).

However, my current doubts concern my ability for sustained, practical efforts and being 'assertive' and detailed enough to 'make' my influence in a career sense. Sometimes I feel like it may ask too much of me. I do have very high ideals, and just quietly doubt that I have the assertiveness to persistently carry through. I think that mars square is very important, particularly as mars is in the third, and my chart seems to be very much about self expression/thought/communication.

p.s.-the command of finances thing is pretty much because I have minimal finance to command! Permanent studenthood does not make for subtantial earnings ;)

Thank you, again, for your time and insight, this has been a revealing 24 hours for me :D

Miss Saturn
06-12-2006, 09:21 AM
Hi,

I have mars in my sixth house and work wise I have worked in a very male enviroment represented by mars.I have been very competitive within my workplace,I wanted to be the fastest and because I was the only female I wanted to show everybody I could do the job just as well as the men in the company. I also used to drive a red truck (mars again).

Mars in my 6th house

Work in a male enviroment
Competitive with co workers
speed was important for the job
Work involved driving a red truck

It's funny when astrology can be so literal.

Health wise I have mars square uranus and I have burnt (mars) myself by accident(uranus) a few times.
I have also cut(mars again) myself on glass and needed unexpected(uranus) surgery(mars can rule surgery)

87This is how mars in the 6th house has worked for me.:)

Rubella
06-12-2006, 02:25 PM
Howl,

I'm surprised at how alike we sound... everything you've mentioned in regard to you feeling what "you have to be" or want to do, is very much what I feel as well. A bit strange, since I don't see that much likeness in our map! :)

Can anyone tell me what does Venus ( ruler of ascendant ) in Pisces 6th house indicates in terms of health issues, and more importantly, my vocation?

maverick
06-12-2006, 06:43 PM
I have Sagittarius on the 6th house cusp, the 6th containing the Dragon's Tail, Jupiter, Mercury, and Neptune in Sag. The Sun and Uranus are conjunct close to the 6th house cusp and could be interpreted there, especially depending on the house system used.

Currently, I work on a boat that ferries passengers daily to and from Seattle, WA to Victoria, BC on Vancouver Island in Canada.

It's all there in the work environment; the Ocean, alcohol & cigarettes, spiritualism, slippery and confusing work practices (Neptune), international travel, passengers from foreign lands, a boisterous and jovial atmosphere of coworker camaraderie (Jupiter), schedules, manifests, sales, fast-paced exchanges and interaction (Mercury), to name some examples.

Arian Maverick
06-12-2006, 06:52 PM
My Virgo South Node is intercepted in the traditional house of Virgo...and yes, I am a perfectionist!

Arian Maverick

laliqueviolin
06-12-2006, 11:04 PM
My Saturn and Uranus is in 6th House, Scorpio and Sagittarius...

Sometimes I get this inner relentless dissatisfaction if someone in a higher position from me can't do their job right, can't give their ALL into something... or can't find the simplest, effective solutions to problems at the workplace... because, inwardly, I feel like I know the meaning of WORK and SERVICE better.. as well as the negative and positive consequences. But then again, cases like this are workaholics, who strive maybe a pure perfection within a system.

Yikes!

franklin taylor
06-13-2006, 12:40 AM
Hello,
The Sixth House does have a real significant influence if your interests are in how well you work, relate to co-workers,subordinates, and employers, or your desire (or lack thereof) for service, and your desire to be useful. It also is suppose to indicate general health including determining your general constitution and diseases you may be specifically prone to. It is known to apply especially to diseases brought about by stress and emotional worry. I have Leo-Mercury, Cancer: Venus, Mars, Jupiter all in the sixth house I also have Cancer-Moon but it is in the fifth house. I know that Mars in the sixth house can indicate a temperment for militant careers (civil and military), I pulled up a chart for the date and hour I was "sworn in" into the U.S. Army and Mars was in the sixth house of that chart close to the same angle as my natal Mars. Mercury so place is suppose to indicate an interest in nutritional health (an the talking about it!) Mercury there may indicate an interest/aptitude for writing which I wrote a weather column for an area newspaper for several years. I have Jupiter here and that can indicate health problems due to excess which some of mine are. Jupiter in Cancer so placed in the sixth is suppose to indicate fortune selling liquid refreshments I do not know though. I don't have a Bar/Club or a late 19th century drugstore. I did have a summer job at Pepsi one year (I split my hand on glass..... Another trait about Mars in the sixth house is accident proneness). Two friends whose charts I have worked on had Pluto in the sixth and one is a great Veterinarian, and the other is a student in medical residency. So Pluto is suppose to indicate healing powers. Another Man's chart I did is a successful business man with no planets even in the general area of the sixth house but his expansion of the sixth house (the twelth house) is very busy. He is a millionaire several times over with no sixth house placements and the first Scorpio Sun and Scorpio ascendant person's chart I have worked on anyways. A very private person.
Take Care.
Franklin Taylor

cara4art
06-13-2006, 02:11 PM
I would have to go along with what Lapis, Elianah and Frisiangal have to say about the 6th house, along with franklintaylor's comment about natal Pluto in 6th, too.
In my own case, I have a 6th-house stellium of Saturn(6Leo), Pluto(11Leo), and the Moon(15Leo). Artist/designer, lifelong. Have never had a so-called "straight" job. The Saturn-Pluto conjunction sextiles my Venus-Neptune trine. My work is highly-detailed, polychromatic, and somewhat visionary in nature.
Healthwise, I was sick alot as a kid with chronic bronchitis for a number of winters running, such that I would miss 3 weeks of school each time. But in adulthood, my health steadily improved, especially after the age of 26 following a bout of mononucleosis, during which I received the strong insight that I was going to have to heal myself. That started the path of correct diet and fitness that I refine to this day, now in second Saturn return. Over the last 2.5 years I have been through an intensive spiritual process that has brought much to light, and dealt with the reasons for a back injury suffered 2.5 years ago. My back is in good shape presently, and my health is very good now!
My DOB: 6/21/1947 11:51PM Providence, RI USA, if anyone cares to comment. Thanks1

Howl
06-13-2006, 03:15 PM
Hi everyone, wow, I found out more than I bargained for! ;)

I have had health challenges, from asthma (quite chronic as a child) to scoliosis, and many many food and animal allergies (which are associated with my digestive system and improve when I eat well). It's interesting that my twin brother's sun is in the fifth house and he doesn't suffer health wise to the same degree. And, more importantly, BECAUSE of those health challenges, I have learned through naturopathy etc to pay very close attention to what my body needs, which moves very quickly towards paying attention to what your mind, and emotions need. So even at a basic level I can see the value of planets in the sixth, even if health problems are the catalyst!!

I'm glad to hear from you cara4art, about never having a 'straight' job. That's part of what has been miffing me. With sun in the sixth, it seems I am supposed to be "all about work" and very active, even some sort of role model in the workplace. Well, not yet, anyway! I do, however, take pride in what I do.

Mary
06-14-2006, 02:01 AM
My sixth house is quite complex:

Uranus in entering (right in the cusp) sextile mars in the 3rdh
Neptune is the too, but this time leaving the house, but is techincaly in there.

Actually, I´m in no service at all, I´m a full -time student. I´m studying music. Sometime I give clases (music) at schools and sometime I have private students. I love to work independetly, but sometime I feel I need to be employed, so I feel my soul will find balance if I´m both employed as a teacher and if I work independently as a musician.

Neptune is the lord of my 9th (pisces) venus is there squaring my neptune, also my mars is squaring my neptune, and my moon and asc is opposed my neptune.... I had a hard time guessing what problems this could attain, since this may be a grand cross, ...

I say that it may be the best or the worst, but nothing in the middle.

C1
06-14-2006, 08:07 PM
<*>Howl, thanks! What a depth of learning! The best minds...(and hearts)...of our time contributing here, and
I benefit.

The SUN transited my 6H during the past 21 days (a little house at 2 gemini to 21 gemini).

Opposite natal Merc in 6H is natal Chiron in 12H at 7 Sag 27.

So, during the past three weeks I have experienced the following:

my SERVICE work is paid work for a client with Lyme disease and we
are both participating in a healing dance...when Sun was at 6H cusp
I had a growth cut off my back...it had been sucking my energy, was
making me self-conscious, had been there for 10 years, growing little
by little and I never thought I had enough money (and no insurance).

Suddenly, snip, snip....gone.

Then, I house-sat with friendly dog of wolf ancestry and 2 cats in
a house next to the water (beautiful and I could be out of this world
in a sense).

Then, my client and I read about a new
support group for people with Lyme disease at our local library, and
we went to it and it was good.

Then, my midwife housemate took out the stitches in my back because
she had the sterile tools and the skill to do so, while we played Mexican
bingo (El Borracho, El Corazon, etc.)...and I won and we laughed....and
then at the spur of the moment last Friday I joined the Peace Walk
with the Zen Buddhist monks and several peace activists and indigenous activists setting off from Chief Seattle's grave and walking 13 miles that day
to the gates of the nuclear submarine base,
where many thousands of nuclear weapons are
loaded and unloaded and
depleted uranium tests are performed,
chanting for peace. I had much energy after that!

Also in my 6H is natal Juno at 16 gem 22 and Alpha Tauri:

http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/aldebaran.html

It feels like many who responded to Howl's "What have you got?"
have got lots of SERVICE in this house.

With gratitude to all for the insights

C1

Manic_Monday
06-15-2006, 07:56 PM
I don't have any planets in my 6th house. It's in Gemini.

nomadpixi
06-15-2006, 08:27 PM
I'm very new to astrology, but I remember my chart enough to know that I have a traffic jam in my 6th house (and nothing in my 10th. Go figure :confused:

Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune. Incidently Jupiter and Venus seem to be conjunct Spica.

I have a powerful need to feel useful in a job and I have been under-employed for the past 5 years which has lead to a depression that I can't even explain the depth of.

I have yet to have figured out what I want to be when I grow up but if anyone has any clues PLEASE LET ME KNOW! I'd be REALLY interested.

November 5, 1969 Manhattan, NY 17:28 (5:28PM)

wilsontc
06-15-2006, 09:12 PM
nomad,

Since you have Pisces (spirituality, also confusion) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 11th house (friends, also other people's self-expression), you can help those around you express the spirituality in their life. This is the sort of goal where there is no indication of where you are or how you are progressing, so it can get confusing, but as long as you have a sense of living up to your spirituality and helping others discover their own spirituality in some way, you ARE moving forward in this goal.

Moving forward,

Tim

Mary
06-18-2006, 06:05 PM
Actually I see north node is in the 11th house

Mary
06-18-2006, 06:15 PM
Do you have any professional study? I see that you 9th house ruler (higher studies) is in the 12 house cusp, opposing your sun and mercury in the 6th and also squaring your mars in the 9th...And also the ruler of your 12th is in the 9th, both ruler square themselves.

Maybe you uncounsciously have put to yourself a lot of responsability and you may judge yourself too harshly due to this. Maybe you feel that if you don´t are useful in a job you just don´t fit.


It´s hard tough to see where you should be oriented, since I have a very little info about yourself and interests. Anyway I may speculate that with uranus lord of 10th trining your mars, you may try to study sth related with technologies, computers or even study on-line sth that you may apply to your job.

I´m sure you could make it, you may be very perseverant and strong-willed. Just try to avoid depression but studying sth that could be applied to your previous job experience and interests..

Wish you luck...

Howl
06-18-2006, 06:26 PM
Hmmm, I see NN in the 11th house too. Also, I'm noticing that your Sun, and your Jupiter/Venus conjunction, all in the sixth house, are unaspected. Perhaps this means that have a LOT of very strong energy in the sixth house, and some trouble connecting to it. Infact, the only aspect to ANY planet in your sixth house is an opposition to Saturn in the 12th, and a square to your midheaven

I will post again if/when I have any further suggestion as to how to interpret this ;)

Lunar Pisces
06-18-2006, 06:50 PM
I have a busy 6th. It's ruled by Aqua, which is problematic, since Aqua is at odds with the essential nature of the 6th. I have Mars, NN, Vertex and Vespa there, all within 15 degrees in Aqua.

Having an Aqua 5th makes me pretty intolerant of being in servitude or in a suborborinate position. I'm a nightmare as an employee. I question authority readily, am incorrigibly nonconformist and am very bossy myself. I have had serial problems with supervisors, as I don't take orders well, especially if I disagree with them. LOL. I'm highly critical of how other people exercise authority, and if someone in a position of authoiry appears weak or incompetant, I lose all respect for them.

On the other hand I work well on my own, or with an equal partner(s), provided I don't get "cramped" too much. Work in general brings out my willful nature (Mars) and I can get pretty disagreeable when in another area of my life I'd be rather laid back and indifferent. I'm not really competitive, but if I encounter competitiveness, unfairness, or ethical wrongdoing in a workplace, I can get very confrontational. I don't "go with the flow" very easily when this house is involved.

I do work well in a position of leadership in a workplace, but I really don't have the desire for that. I would prefer to be left alone. I also don't like working in a "conventional" work setting (I'd like to torture the guy who invented teh cubicle - I hear he deeply regretting that invention in his later life. No surprise to anyone with a soul!). I am a teacher currently, which I can tolerate because when I'm in the classroom, I'm on my own schedule and I'm left alone more or less by the administation. But I want to be a writer, and work on my own one day (hopefully I can - my MC is in Gem).

Mars in the 6th means work tends to burn me out and can have serious effects on my health is I spread myself too thin. I've changed jobs very often because of this. I need definite time off, and I can't work any kind of job that I have to "take home" - I need to keep work at work, and home at home.

I know with a NN in the 6th and in Aqua, I have big lessons I need to learn about cooperation, humility and being at the service of others. I tend to resent service to others if I feel unappreciated. I've actually worked many servile jobs, and I don't mind the work itself. I just am naturally very proud (SN in leo, of course) and I resent being treated like dirt by people who assume they were above me just because of my job. My aquanees tends to make it hard for me to accpet people usually don't see past whatever service you provide for them, and I often resent that I'm not treated like a human being by those I provide service to.At least on the flipside, I tend to be very considerate and kind towards people who provide services to me.

I do have various health problems. I have PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome) which stems no doubt from having Mars (sex/reproduction) in the 6th. This causes a number of other health problems for me - depression, insulin resistence, weight problems, blood pressure problems, and heart palpitations, to name a few. I also have Asperger's Syndrome, a neurological condition (Virgo) that isn't genuinely disabling (for me) but can have adverse affects on the physical body if not managed well.

One other thing I think the 6th house represents is our awareness of our bodies and physical condition. This is why I find having a 6th house ruled by Aqua so problematic - Aqua's pretty indifferent to the physical, and so it took me until my late 20's to "get" how my body was giving me signs and sugnals of what was wrong or what it needed. I nad to learn that awareness and learn how to listen to my body, which thankfully has lead me to take better care of myself. An Aqua 6th seems to also cause some hygenic challenges too, LOL. I'm notorious about forgetting to shower or brush my teeth, for example, usually because I was too busy "living in my head."

nomadpixi
06-19-2006, 03:01 PM
Do you have any professional study? I see that you 9th house ruler (higher studies) is in the 12 house cusp, opposing your sun and mercury in the 6th and also squaring your mars in the 9th...And also the ruler of your 12th is in the 9th, both ruler square themselves.

Maybe you uncounsciously have put to yourself a lot of responsability and you may judge yourself too harshly due to this. Maybe you feel that if you don´t are useful in a job you just don´t fit.


It´s hard tough to see where you should be oriented, since I have a very little info about yourself and interests. Anyway I may speculate that with uranus lord of 10th trining your mars, you may try to study sth related with technologies, computers or even study on-line sth that you may apply to your job.

I´m sure you could make it, you may be very perseverant and strong-willed. Just try to avoid depression but studying sth that could be applied to your previous job experience and interests..

Wish you luck...
Mary, Howl:
You are right on the money. I have been horribly confused about what I'm supposed to do. I've always had this feeling that I'm supposed to be doing somethin HUGE with my life yet had no direction that I could really focus on (it wasn't until 2 years ago I notice a conjuction in my chart of Jupiter in Libra with Spica and Arcturus).

I REALLY wanted to be a dancer but my Mom put a stop to that right before college, even after 12 years of solid dance training.

So, I took average admin jobs (6th house). I was sort of fine with these jobs, however, I do feel majorly depressed when I'm not feeling like my skills are being really used or that I'm useful in my job (my current dilema: mindless busywork driving me round the bend).

I once got interested in web design (have LOTS of graphic skills:libra/venus) but could not find decent training on the programming end of it so could not make a decent living doing it. If there are indicators that my going back to school for web-programming would be successful, let me know. I'm really quite lost right now but need to know more clues to make a more informed decision about what to pursue.

I feel really draw to graphic art, design, performance (dance) and other, I guess venus-like things. I just need to figure out how the heck it works with the 6th house.

Thanks so much for your insight.:D
I'd be happy to hear more

Mary
06-19-2006, 03:45 PM
In order to improve you work situation, I think you should study web programing, otherwise you may find more obstacles. Also web design is good for you, since all your 5th house planets, including your 10th ruler, uranus, trine your mars in aquarius in the 9th. You may also promote your self indepently from your job. Or you may work by yourself.


Good Luck!

archergirl
06-20-2006, 08:37 AM
Also, nomad, being that you're the same age as me, you should be having a MASSIVE Jupiter Return right about now, as Jupiter is currently Rx in the first decanate of Scorpio. Jupiter Returns are fantastic opportunities (sometimes in disguise). I would say, with all this happening in your 6th (haven't looked at the chart, so I'm assuming) this would be the perfect time to simply set your focus on *whatever* it is you want to do, and then just JUMP. I'm having my Jupiter Return in my 9th/10th houses and after 36 years of wandering around the planet changing jobs every two years, I've finally decided to take the 'other' meaning of the 9th and go back to university to train in osteopathy, which, having Neptune on my MC, gives me the 'selfless' profession I've been searching for.

The sixth house is all about the services you do for others in the most mundane sense (whereas the 12th would be more esoteric service, all priestly-like). To use a Jesus analogy, the 6th is Jesus washing the feet of his disciples; the 12th is him dying on the cross (okay, this is extreme). You need to have a job where you can feel of *service* to people, and service can mean literally anything that leads to the betterment of others' lives.

And I have to say, having wanted to be a jockey as a child and having NO encouragement from my mother, at 36, if you still want to be a dancer, then *$@£ what your mother told you, and go dance!! Life is short! :D And dancing itself is a service to the Arts, something that brings pleasure and joy to millions, yourself included. Start your own dance company!

archergirl
06-20-2006, 08:46 AM
Oh, and back the original post, I don't have any planets in my 6th; I have Cancer on the cusp and the Moon its ruler is in the 3rd. Debbi Kempton-Smith, in her pivotal book Secrets from a Stargazer's Notebook (the best astrology read around, IMO, in terms of humour and user-friendliness, especially for beginners), says that the Lord of the sixth tells you what kind of foods you like; since I have the ruler in Aries, I like my food SPICY, and this is oh, so true. I eat hot sauce on everything. :p

devalight
06-25-2006, 06:26 PM
Sixth house is empty, Pisces on the cusp. Neptune in Scorpio in the 2nd conjunct Jupiter in Libra.

Devalight

Mary
06-25-2006, 10:22 PM
Devalight..

It´s your conjuntion in the 2nd house aspecting anyother planet with a major aspect? Which is the ruler of the MC? Where it´s placed its lord by house, sign, aspect? Which are the aspects that apply to your MC?

devalight
06-26-2006, 01:17 AM
Mary,

Its complicated:

1. Jupiter/N. Node/Neptune conjunction (stellium?) in 2nd house in Libra and Scorpio:
Trine Moon/Venus conjunction at midheaven in Gemini
Oppositon Mars in Aries in the 8th house.


2. Moon /Venus conjunction midheaven opposition Saturn in the 3rd, sextile Mars, and sextile Pluto in the 12th house.

3. Virgo ascendant, chart ruler Mercury is in the 11th house conjunct Uranus and trine Saturn in the 3rd.

I have a T-square and mystic rectangle patterns.

Devalight

Cassie Priam
06-26-2006, 12:33 PM
I have the sun, moon, NN, in the 6th (Pisces) and born on the same day as a solar eclipse (Pisces) in the 6h. Aq is on the cusp.

This is a very karmic house, linked to Virgo (ruler of Chiron). And Chiron's natural home. You might want to look at your 12h to understand the polarity.

6h is linked to health and service. This is a house where your talents are abilities can be used in a productive way. The sun indicates a life of service and it will manifest in a sag way, in a way that offers freedom and intellectual stimulation. Also perhaps something sporty.

A loaded 6h indicates that you are bringing forward much body karma from past lives. Sun indicates vitality and growth, a strong constitution, but a propensity to the physical correlates of your sign (sag). This would be issues with the sciatic nerve, hips and thighs, and pituitary gland. You may have hip, rheumatism, pulmonary and liver complaints, fevers, sports injuries, sprains and broken bones. For you, you will need to exercise the body and mind, and avoid over indulgence of any kind.

6h merc indicates that you may worry a great deal or tend to be over stimulated mentally. And Nep in the 6h can mean problems with addictions of all kinds, allergies, lack of energy, emotional issues. These illnesses tend to be difficult to diagnose and are never straightforward. You will be sensitive to medications and treatments as well.

VENUS
06-27-2006, 10:04 AM
ive noticed alot workaholics tend to have alot of planets in the 6th house ...love of pets maybe? lol stress/anxiety caused by work related problems...?

Mnemosyne
06-27-2006, 12:36 PM
Eeeerm, not so sure about the workaholism myself VENUS! Have Mars in Taurus in the 6th, and workwise once I get into something I'm interested in I will keep at it til the bitter end. I find I get really easily bored though - have no tolerance for the sort of utterly pointless tasks I'm frequently set - and although I'm working in a general area I'm very interested in, I'm not in the exact job I'm interested in (though getting there slowly but surely thanks to Saturn in the 9th!).

Arian Maverick
06-27-2006, 05:18 PM
I am certainly a workoholic, yet my only sixth house placement is my Virgo South Node. However, I believe I am suffiently determined to gain recognition
(tenth house stellium) that I am willing to adopt characteristics Virgoan characteristics to "get the job done." ;)

Arian Maverick

23
06-27-2006, 08:46 PM
ive noticed alot workaholics tend to have alot of planets in the 6th house ...love of pets maybe? lol stress/anxiety caused by work related problems...?

Or probably some affliction of a planet there?

As I said previously, I have pluto (luckily not afflicted) in the 6th and I am a workaholic.

Cassie Priam
06-27-2006, 10:32 PM
This is a very karmic placement, SN in 6h Virgo. This position indicates a wisdom beyond time and space. With hard work in this life may get to a very wise mystical place. (Clow, CHIRON.)

AquariusMoon
06-28-2006, 12:39 AM
Hi, Cassie. I like your readings! I'd be interested to know what you think Taurus on the cusp of H6 means. Venus sits in H7 and rules the MC, H5 and H6.

Thanks,
AqMoon

Howl
06-28-2006, 06:18 AM
Hi Cassie,

Thanks for your insight. I like the idea of "a life of service that will manifest itself in a sag way", that makes perfect sense to me. Right now, it looks like sevice at the societal level, also internationally.

Mercury in the sixth = overstimulated mentally, hehe yeah. It's also (somewhat, I haven't decide yet) sqaure mars in the third :)

Neptune in the sixth with sun and mercury. One funny thing about this...I always used to have nightmares about fish...jumping out of fish tanks in an uncontrollable fashion, and/or water leaking flooding spilling swooshing...lots of out of control water dreams. I used to work in a fish pet shop when I was younger, which may partially explain it!

Over the past few years, I've made peace with my dream water. First I had a dream where I stood alone in a beautiful home, frozen in awe, as a wild, foaming, beautiful tidal wave rose weightless and shining in the night air under the light of the moon. I was alone in Thailand (this was before the real tsunami). I had the feeling that it was for me, or had something to do with me. I was also on the phone to my friend, and water slid suddenly and silently all across the dark marble floor under my feet. Sounds wild, but I could it as a positive, and beautiful dream.

I had another where my mum took me across beach dunes in the daytime, and showed me huge waves, four metres high, and also weightless, shining, lush, foamy, and wild. She was talking to me, gently reminding me that i was to start swimming, now was the time, just start, get in there, even if I didn't know how to. Logic would have told me that the waves would crush the life out of me, and I was aswed, but not afraid.

And lastly, a dream where I lived with my family in the desert, in a caravan. I had a personal swimming pond standing out the back, and went out to put my hands in the water, and go and play with my two giant fish. They were two metre long koi, and they loved to be near me as much as I loved to be with them, they felt hard and smooth and I was so damned happy to have them there, they liked to play, it was a huge sensation of joy. This last one I had on the most recent pisces new moon :)

Cassie Priam
06-28-2006, 09:47 PM
Howl,

I agree that the pet store dreams could be a classic anxiety dream related to your childhood job, but all the others seem more like something else. And it does seem curious that of all the childhood anxiety situations one can face you have chosen to remember a water and fish one!

If you have Chiron conjunct your SN, you could be dreaming about past lives. It is quite possible that you had some past lives living near water.
Do you know what your PNSE sign is? And what house?

Also with Nep in the 6th house you are going to be wide open to outside influences, a psychic sponge of sorts. You can soak up everything around you, including other peoples illnesses, feelings and environmental stress. So your dreams could reflect that as well.

You are also going to be very sensitive to anything you ingest, food, medications, etc. Health problems can be linked to past live problems and the aspects to Nep will indicate the specifics.

If I could see your natal chart I could say more.

Howl
06-29-2006, 06:46 AM
Hello again,

yes, the later dreams are definitely about something more, and I quite like the fact that they're still water dreams but more powerful and rewarding, rather than anxious. I remember water/fish anxiety dreams more than the others because it came up pretty often!

Here is my chart. I don't know what you mean by PNSE sign?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4814/yod1uq.th.gif (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yod1uq.gif)

Cassie Priam
06-29-2006, 09:19 AM
Dreams that occur over and over are significant dreams and we should pay attention to them. And yes I like the fact that the dream progression has matured into healthier dynamics. PNSE is prenatal solar eclipse. I can look it up for you.

I will take a look at your chart as well...

Cassie Priam
06-29-2006, 01:03 PM
This is your prenatal Sol eclipse info:

Jul 31 03:46 T 145 Sun 7 Leo 51

The site below will show you when your eclipse first started, when it ends and when it will visit you again!

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEsaros/SEsaros145.html (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEsaros/SEsaros145.html)

Brady indicates that this saros cycle eclipse is going to dust you with the following energy:

Unexpected events involving friends or groups will place pressure on personal relationships. And these issues will become more apparent with eclipse transits. In this life it is important for you not to make hasty decisions since information may be distorted or false. You also need to work on health issues in this life, not getting too fatigued or ignoring health problems.

The Leo PNSE indicates the need to exercise leadership and authority in karmic situations, with vigor and resolve, half hearted attempts will not be successful. It is important for you to develop the creativity, self confidence and vitality that are karmic gifts.

You must learn the difference between self confidence and self focus in this life, and leave behind the negative traits of Leo.

It is likely with this placement that you may have a paternal karmic relationship with one of your children. And many with the Leo PNSE work with children and promote the welfare of children in some capacity.

The first house placement indicates a need to examine issues of self responsibility. It is important to see yourself as an individual and to be honest about strengths and weaknesses.

BTW I love your natal chart double tailed kite. And then the one Chiron tail has the tip of your yod. I think that 4/5 house Scorpio and sag energy and the retro Uranus are going to be an important release points for all that trine and yod energy, And Uranus is your chart ruler so I think you should pay attention to this.

Cassie Priam
06-29-2006, 09:57 PM
What kind of aspects does Venus have? We need to look at those to get more info.

Taurus can indicate significant body karma, especially around over indulgence in past lives.

Howl
06-30-2006, 01:47 AM
Wow thanks Cassie, that's a whole lot of new info about my chart!

I hadn't looked into PNSE before but the info you posted is very interesting. First, it mentions that "unexpected events involving friends or groups will place pressure on personal relationships" which seems synonymous with my 11H moon opposition to 5H uranus, both of which aspect 7H venus

It also mentions health issues, which seems to link nicely with my sixth house focus.

Like the PNSE placement, my NN is also in the first house, but in cancer.

I'm also interested that you see a double tailed kite in my chart. When I first came to this forum, I thought I ad a kite (because astrodienst drew one!) but now, on advice from astrologers here, I doubt that my mars completes the kite (I'm not convinced that it qualifies as a trine to moon/venus).

Also, why do you consider uranus my chart ruler?
Hope you don't mind more questions, you've got me thinking :D

Cassie Priam
06-30-2006, 10:40 AM
Duh, Ura is not your chart ruler, it is the moon right? Duh I must have looked at the wrong chart, I have a million charts floating on my desk. That is why you need to keep an eye on me :(

That moon is on the tail of your kite. And you are balancing Ura on your nose there. It is so beautiful, I love looking at that double kite and yod tucked in one tail.

And yes I just love it when the same things are repeated over and over in a chart. Those are the dynamics you need to pay attention to. The universe it trying to tell you something.

Karmic astrologers use wider orbs than classic folks, we go up to 10-12 depending upon the circumstances. Such as outer/inner planet placement which are karmic, and if other parts of the configuration are tight orbs we will go wider on other parts of it. And in synastry if there is a double whammy.

I know that this gives the classic folks heart failure. But it just does not makes sense to me to see the planetary energy in a chart in such black and white terms. Something is so powerful and present, but one degree difference means it does not exist at all? I do not believe that is how energy works. Yes with wider orbs we are looking at more subtle influences, but influences nontheless. I do not believe energy can be seen is a dichotomous on or off way. It is much more complex and subtle. and messages from the Divine are not simple.

I know that this is heresy for many, I supposed I will be frogged march to the forum door :(.

And I never mind questions, I love to talk about all of this.

Arian Maverick
06-30-2006, 11:31 AM
I know that this is heresy for many, I supposed I will be frogged march to the forum door.

Nonsense! You have proven yourself to be an asset to this community, and I am confident that your online peers will respect whatever theories you may present :)

Arian Maverick

Howl
06-30-2006, 01:54 PM
Hi again Cassie :)

I really do appreciate what you've had to say, thank you for sharing it! I've noticed your posts far and wide on the forum, it's little wonder you have a million charts fluttering around when you take such generous interest ;)

Yep, the moon is my chart ruler. I'm not familiar with the different astrological schools of thought and their differing emphasis, but I will enjoy keeping an eye on that kite and tryng to discern in what way, and to what level, I believe it works.

Do you consider element/modality as particularly significant when determining how to view an aspect?

For example, do you think there's much difference between a square of wide orb when the planets are squared by sign, compared to when they are only squared by degrees (and not by sign?) What if they are tightly squared by degrees and not by sign? What do you consider most significant?

Ok completely off topic from this thread now, but I am interested in your opinion :D I need all the opinions I can get! I do agree that "on" and "off" for aspects is rather too binary....

Cassie Priam
06-30-2006, 06:40 PM
I feel like a kid in a candy shop, there are so many interesting threads. I have many questions and I also like to contribute if I can. I wish time would permit me to respond to more posts. I am very interested in career, relationship, health issues, so I would like to be more active on those boards. (Not sure if a karmic approach will be appreciated but so far everyone has been very nice.) And of course spirituality is really my major focus so I need to get myself over there very soon.

Yep, the moon is my chart ruler. I'm not familiar with the different astrological schools of thought and their differing emphasis, but I will enjoy keeping an eye on that kite and trying to discern in what way, and to what level, I believe it works.

I took out the p fort kite on your chart. Usually I do not use pf very much, but after reading Clow's book (she thinks it is important) I have been thinking and playing with it in relation to the nodes and Chiron, and your pf was trine Chiron.


Do you consider element/modality as particularly significant when determining how to view an aspect?


Oh yes, elements are very important for a number of reasons. It is really telling us much about how the soul decided to incarnate in this lifetime. We are souls who inhabit human bodies, and we chose our bodies for very specific reasons. So the elemental balance is telling us a lot. An imbalance can suggest that there have been many types of lives in certain bodies, or for whatever reason the soul has not chosen to learn much about the kind of energy in this lifetime.

For example in your chart you have a lot of fire and air, and not much water or earth. That is telling us that you are going to be more creative in this life, have more visionary perception and experience life through intuition and spirit. The sun and moon placement support the emphasis, making it clear that this is what the soul wanted to do in this life. And you are going to be more rational and intellectual in this life, experiencing life thru the mind. One of the reasons for incarnating is for the soul to experience the world in a physical body and we can tell by the elemental balance how the soul wanted to interact and perceive the world in this life.

Your Grand Trine is air, with a bit of earth, makes me think that you have done many lives in air, and you have gotten the energy down pat, but you still want to make sure you learned the lesson so it is still with you in this life. You do have powerful air energy. (One theory is that the easy aspects indicate that we have mastered that element in past lives and now it is good karma for us to enjoy in this life, but we still want to make sure we learned the lessons. Sometimes we take it for granted however.) It looks to me like you have come out of some earth lives and are not too interested in working on that element now. And you have some earthy energy in your kite, but you did have some body wounds in a last life or a wound to your self worth or security.

The hard aspects are things we want to learn, want to balance that energy in this lifetime. Or deeply ingrained karma that we need to rework in this life.

The air and fire combination can be a bit volatile at times, with strong outbursts of energy followed by exhaustion. This soul may do very well in the realm of ideas and imagination but less so in the everyday world.

I am going to answer your last question in the next reply. I have a lot to say!

Message from Moderator: Cassie, do not be alarmed that I have edited your post; I simply corrected an HTML tag ;)

Amit89
06-30-2006, 08:56 PM
I'v got the north node in the 6th house, with zodaic sign aquarious.

Cassie Priam
07-01-2006, 10:34 AM
Howl wrote: QUOTE]For example, do you think there's much difference between a square of wide orb when the planets are squared by sign, compared to when they are only squared by degrees (and not by sign?) What if they are tightly squared by degrees and not by sign? What do you consider most significant?
[/quote]

I would say neither one is more significant than the other.
Both are giving information and all data is important. In this
situation orbs are giving me information about the strength
of the square relationship, the other is telling me about the
nature of that relationship. One is a quantitative the other
is qualitative. One is more micro the other more macro. And
I am going back and forth between the two all the time.
That said, I would be much more interested in the sign, as
that is going to give me a lot of information about the karmic
implications of the square in question. Mixed signs tell me
that the energy is complicated.

(BTW qualities are very indicative of karmic issues, squares
in fixed signs or houses indicate long term deeply entrenched
karma, built up over many lifetimes, and must be dealt with
in this life. Mutable is more recent karma and can be worked
on or not. And cardinal sq is karma in the making. Mixed is
just telling you that there is more than one type of karma
in this aspect.)

But I would say that my approach in general is more qualitative
and flexible, less quantitative. I see the natal chart as a
gold mine of information and I am looking at everything.
The natal chart isincredibly rich with information on many
levels. I am looking to see how it all fits together.

BTW I want to say that I am in no way an expert, I am
just a student and learning every day as I go. But in my
day job, I am in a scientific field requiring extensive training
to assess large amounts of data and synthesize and
integrate it all into a meaningful whole. So I am quite
familiar with the process. But I must admit, astrology is
more complicated than anything I have ever encountered!

pisceskitty
07-21-2006, 09:37 PM
I have Chiron in Aries in mine...I have really weird eating habits! But I do have a love of Nutrition, and health foods 'n stuff.:)

Yoi
09-30-2006, 03:29 PM
I have a somewhat strange sixth house that I hope someone will interpret for me.

The 6th house starts in Libra but near the end of the sign. My 7th house starts near the beginning of Sagittarius. So though the house starts in Libra it entirely encloses Scorpio. The beginning of the house is definitely in Libra though as it is nowhere near the Libra/Scorpio cusp. In fact Scorpio takes up the majority of the house. The 6th house contains a very tight (<1%) Mercury/Uranus Conjunction in Scorpio. What effect if any is there with the house starting in Libra but mainly encompassing Scorpio? In fact the only two planets in the house, the Mercury/Uranus Conjunction are in Scorpio, not Libra. Is the 6th house more "Libran" or "Scorpian"?

Now for some possibly useless info: Virgo is quite heavily emphasised in my chart with a Mars/Jupiter Conjunction in the 4th house. Saturn is also in Virgo but in the 5th house. The North Node is also in Virgo in conjunction with Mars. I have a very strong Mercurial influence in my chart overall. Not only the whole Virgo thing both Moon and Ascendent and the 2nd house in Gemini and it being what I read is a "funnel" chart with the energies being focused on the Mercurial Gemini Moon as the only planet in the entire left part of the chart... Not sure whether that will help with the interpretation of the 6th house but I thought since Virgo is associated with the 6th house and Mercury is the ruler of Virgo...For even extra info the house ruler of Libra and hence as far as I understand the house ruler of the 6th house in this case, Venus is in Capricorn in the 8th house, trine with the Mars/Jupiter/N. Node conjunction in Virgo. To make things even more *heavily* focused on the 6th house, my MC is in Aquarius, the two planetary rulers of which, Saturn and Uranus are in Virgo and the 6th house respectively. Not sure whether any of this means anything with respect to the 6th house though...Still this is one of the reasons why I am interested in the meaning of the 6th house. There seems to be quite a heavy focus on it in my chart with a lot of conjunctions and trines being thrown around everything related to it. Also the fact that is obviously the biggest house in the chart should mean that it has extra importance right?

Now that I think about this, all this heavy Mercurian/6th house connection could be the reason for my peculiar health problems. I am usually in robust health. However, once every year I will usually get a small cold that will turn into a very severe cough and even bronchitis.

EDIT: Here is my chart as people are finding my aside too hard to follow:

Catatonia
09-30-2006, 05:04 PM
Mars in Aries in the 6th.

23
09-30-2006, 11:42 PM
I have a somewhat strange sixth house that I hope someone will interpret for me.

The 6th house starts in Libra but near the end of the sign. My 7th house starts near the beginning of Sagittarius. So though the house starts in Libra it entirely encloses Scorpio. The beginning of the house is definitely in Libra though as it is nowhere near the Libra/Scorpio cusp. In fact Scorpio takes up the majority of the house. The 6th house contains a very tight (<1%) Mercury/Uranus Conjunction in Scorpio. What effect if any is there with the house starting in Libra but mainly encompassing Scorpio? In fact the only two planets in the house, the Mercury/Uranus Conjunction are in Scorpio, not Libra. Is the 6th house more "Libran" or "Scorpian"?

Now for some possibly useless info: Virgo is quite heavily emphasised in my chart with a Mars/Jupiter Conjunction in the 4th house. Saturn is also in Virgo but in the 5th house. The North Node is also in Virgo in conjunction with Mars. I have a very strong Mercurial influence in my chart overall. Not only the whole Virgo thing both Moon and Ascendent and the 2nd house in Gemini and it being what I read is a "funnel" chart with the energies being focused on the Mercurial Gemini Moon as the only planet in the entire left part of the chart... Not sure whether that will help with the interpretation of the 6th house but I thought since Virgo is associated with the 6th house and Mercury is the ruler of Virgo...For even extra info the house ruler of Libra and hence as far as I understand the house ruler of the 6th house in this case, Venus is in Capricorn in the 8th house, trine with the Mars/Jupiter/N. Node conjunction in Virgo. To make things even more *heavily* focused on the 6th house, my MC is in Aquarius, the two planetary rulers of which, Saturn and Uranus are in Virgo and the 6th house respectively. Not sure whether any of this means anything with respect to the 6th house though...Still this is one of the reasons why I am interested in the meaning of the 6th house. There seems to be quite a heavy focus on it in my chart with a lot of conjunctions and trines being thrown around everything related to it. Also the fact that is obviously the biggest house in the chart should mean that it has extra importance right?

Now that I think about this, all this heavy Mercurian/6th house connection could be the reason for my peculiar health problems. I am usually in robust health. However, once every year I will usually get a small cold that will turn into a very severe cough and even bronchitis.

The encapsulation of sco in the 6th house means that the 6th house intercepts the sign of scorpio. Here is a link for you to read about this:

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Intercepted_signs.htm

As for mercury-ura conj in sco in the 6th, mentally you might be quite penetrative and are able to see things with wit and things comes to you in sudden bursts such that thought patterns might be quite unique and innovative. You might use this in your work environment. As for health, it might indicate some erratic nature as ura is in the 6th, maybe quite sudden and difficult health problems to treat. Maybe this might affect things that are ruled by Mercury - things like hands, arms and lungs. This might also be combined with the intercepted sco, which adds blockage (maybe bronchitis here).

I'm assuming that your ura is in sco. But then you talk about ura in Virgo??

23
09-30-2006, 11:45 PM
ps, if you can put up your chart Yoi, it would help. I'm finding your "aside" para a bit hard to follow.

Yoi
10-01-2006, 12:08 AM
ps, if you can put up your chart Yoi, it would help. I'm finding your "aside" para a bit hard to follow.

Sorry! I've attached my chart. I attached it to my first post in case anyone else gets confused.

allie_b
10-01-2006, 02:04 PM
Hi everyone,

I love this topic! I have mercury in Pisces conjunct my 6th(from the 5th). Most astrologers put it in my 6th because I also have my sun in Pisces in the 6th, conjunct north node in Aries in 6th. Then I have Chiron in Aries in the 6th conjunct them both.

An astrologer said something interesting to me about the 6th house: that it represents blue collar workers, unions and the underdog. This truly resonated with me. My father was a firefighter(Sun in the 6th), my grandfather was also a firefighter and did a lot of work for their union. And I always root for the underdog as well.

As others have said, I am a very hard worker with Sun in the 6th. I think Sun in the 6th makes for a great work ethic. We may even be critical of ourselves(virgo house)in our work performance. Generally, a sense of self-worth comes from a job well done, I would say. I also feel a deep need to share my gifts of service to humanity. I am very helpful and try to help people as much as I can, at work and also in my day to day life.

I am also very aware of my health. I have oppositions from the 12th house, so my diet and exercise routine is very variable. But whether I'm eating junk food, vegan, or low-carbing, I am very aware of the food I put into my body and how it affects me. I'm always interested in the latest, cutting edge products and information to improve one's heath.:)

Howl
10-02-2006, 12:21 AM
Hey allie_b, fellow sixth house sun child :) I am curious about something. How do you connect the ideas of blue collar, unions and the underdog with ideas of health and body consciousness, all together in the sixth house?

I have the same body/health awareness, I have the sense of needing to be socially useful, and instinctively fight for underdogs too, but I don't seem to have the "blue collar" emphasis you've described. Do you think that this is influenced by signs on the cusp and planets in the house, or that it intrincically belongs to the sixth house itself?

Given that I have Saggie on the cusp, and my Mercury is within a 1degree orb of sixth house Sun, I guess that could describe the more "white collar" emphasis that I seem to have.

allie_b
10-02-2006, 12:56 AM
This blue collar association with the 6th house is just what an astrologer told me, it's not my hypothesis. But I thought the idea was intriguing enough to share it with everyone. I too, am a white collar worker but my sensibilites derive from my (blue collar) upbringing.

I don't try to synthesize the various meanings of the 6th house. It just is what it is.

The signs and planets probably do matter quite a bit with interpretation. The same astrologer I referred to before, saw my chiron and north node in Aries in the 6th and said that I could be a leader of a union. I do have strong beliefs(mars in sag in the 3rd)and I feel I definitely could start an organization that would help people in some way. I do have a particular idea in mind, actuallly, in the planning stages now.:)

cossie
10-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Hi ,

My chart ruler saturn sits in my 6th house and Im a Virgo sun,so I am also interested in the 6th house.

I can only tell you how I have experienced its effects on myself and others.

I believe that people with planets in the 6th house dont necessarily suffer with their health,rather they take an interest in their health, in particular their diet and are especially aware of the body/mind connection.ie your health is reflected by the state of your mind and vice versa.I find that often these people are vegetarian or at least try to eat healthily in general.

Planets in the 6th also tend to make people good at organising their day,and work routine.Often markedly concientious in their work and prepared to work hard.

Wether in their work or in their leisure they often find themselves at service to others and more willing to step in and help out than anyone else.

There are many positives to this house but I do feel it is one of the least understood. Hope some of what Ive said rings a bell with some of you.

Libra20
10-10-2006, 05:16 PM
I just found this thread. I've been wanting to post on this topic. I've got a hugely crowded Virgo 6th house and I'm not quite sure what it all means. I've got 5 planets (Moon, Venus, Pluto, Mercury, Uranus) there as well as my S. Node. All but Uranus are in Virgo. The Moon, Venus and Pluto also form a stellium. I know there's a whole lot of mental energy there with Mercury exalted and so many other planets in Virgo. I'm not quite sure how to interpret the stellium.

I know that the 6th house deals a lot with health issues. I've had lots of health issues when I was younger, but I am doing well now. I also am a bit too obsessed with proper diet etc.

pisceskitty
11-04-2006, 05:43 PM
I have Chiron in Aries in my 6H, which is ruled by Pisces. I'm obsessive about what I eat. I used to have weird eating habits as a kid. What I've noticed is whenever I fast, transiting Moon is usually in Aries conjuncting Chiron. Transiting Lilith was in Aries when I had an ectopic pregnancy, and needed surgery in 1993.

pisceskitty
11-04-2006, 07:33 PM
It's funny because I started this thread on my eating disorder. I have pisces ruling my 6th house, and for some bizarre reason, I feel like fasting alot, and having a body that is empty of food. I feel spiritually "heavy" when I eat. I know this sounds insane.... When transiting Jupiter conjuncts my natal Neptune in Sagittarius, I wonder how that 6th house of mine will be impacted.

I looked at Ghandi's natal chart, and he has Libra rising @26degrees. My asc is @ 21 degrees libra; The cusp of his 6th is 26degrees Pisces; The cusp of my 6th is @ 27degrees Pisces; he has Moon square Pluto/Moon square Venus just like me also. He also has Chiron in Aries in his 6th house!
Maybe this gives some insight to my obsession with fasting for spiritual reasons. When I feel like i'm confused, or need guidance from the creator, I often fast. it keeps me centered.

DoubleLibra
11-05-2006, 12:11 AM
Saturn and Chiron are natally in my 6th House Aries. As far as my career, Saturn has kept me at my current job for 5 yrs, so it's brought stability to that area of my life. As far as my health, I've haven't had anything real serious, knock on wood, affect me but have had some strange things creep up on me when under stress, so I feel Saturn's playing his part there. Not really sure about Chiron being conjunct Saturn in the 6th :confused: I haven't studied Chiron enough to know what I should look for.

Libra20
11-05-2006, 12:20 AM
Pisces Kitty-

I don't think that it sounds crazy at all. From what I've read, occasional fasting is important in spiritual work. I was looking for some good quotes, but didn't find what I wanted. If I do, later, I'll post it. I've also read that following a vegetarian diet (seafood is ok) is preferable.

You just have to make sure that the fasting is done properly and don't overdo it. You want to be conscious about it. Be in control of when you are to fast, don't let it control you.

Claire19
11-05-2006, 12:22 AM
Hi there

I have a sixth house stellium in Leo, Mercury,Saturn and Pluto plus the Sun which is close to the 7th cusp. I by the way have never married nor wanted to and am the true Virgin archetype which really means "whole in oneself" independent and not necessarily sexless. I am a natural therapist and counsellor.

Mercury can denote allergies but also learning about health matters, involvement with small animals, a lot of study and travel for work. Veterinary science, herbalism, housing department, retail, food stores. Depending on the aspects and to what houses will tell the full picture.

It is the house of everyday rituals, service, our housing, clothing and food needs. It is where we do our bread and butter work and if we are lucky it is connected to our career aspirations which also is not always the same at all.

Saturn in 6th can mean arthritis, bone and teeth problems. Working for the government, working alone and having periods of unemployment. A chiropractor, dentist, archaeologist, farmer or miner.

Pluto in 6th means jealousy and conspiracies in the workplace. Sexual harrasment. Healing work especially with the natural remedies. Death of pet is very significant. Psychology, sex industries, insurance, taxation, renovations, recycling and refurbishment work, major transformations..

Sun in 6th means being an authority figure in workplace, working in the entertainment industry, stock market, speculation, leisure & pleasure activities including performing arts. Arts and crafts and the organisation of the aforesaid.

This is just some of the indications and once again all depends on what aspects are being made and where.

Hope it helps some.

Claire (Virgin goddess)

Lapis
11-05-2006, 12:34 AM
Pluto intercepted :46:

freedomlover
11-05-2006, 12:44 AM
Retrograde Jupiter in Gemini, seemingly unaspected, unless you use very wide orbs.

marthafox
12-05-2006, 01:31 AM
In my sixth house I have...
...Absolutely nothing.

VenusInAries
12-05-2006, 04:58 AM
In the sixth house I have 29 degree pisces North Node, and the midpoint of my sun/moon is 11 aries.. my Venus conjunct chiron is there at 12 aries so right on my sun/moon midpoint in the 6th.

For me I will say I don't like getting my hands dirty, especially with food, disllike finger foods. I'm a vegan. I love animals. I'm one of those annoying happy types at work that rub you the wrong way with their perkiness. I can't stand discord in the work place. I like doing a job well and of being of service but my aries as to throw a twist of I was of service but in my own way of my own choosing kind of attitude in there. I have pretty much raised myself since I was 6yrs old and have felt alone and always like I can never be perfect enough or good enough for my parents love so ie I believe venus/chiron at the midpoint of my sun/moon.. sun..father..moon mother.. venus..love..chiron..wounded.. 6th house perfection..I always felt maybe if I'm pretty enough..maybe if I'm smart enough etc they will love me..so I think that plays into my 6th house stuff as well.

Draco
12-05-2006, 03:47 PM
Balsamic Moon in Leo on Regulus, although I would consider it to be drawn into the seventh as it is in the same sign as the descendant.

moon123
12-11-2006, 10:31 PM
Hello everyone,
I have got mercury in sixth house.It is in pisces.

I don't know what I should expect.
Please suggest.
moon123

Claire19
12-12-2006, 07:12 AM
Mercury in 6th can be many things. We need to look at your aspects and the signs involved. It can mean travelling for work, teaching and an interest in health matters, domestic animals and craftwork. It can denote allergies and problems with shoulders, arms and hands. It all depends. There may be a lot of gossip in the workplace, you can work with siblings or issues with siblings are played out there. You will be restless and nervous with employment matters.

Claire

Draco
12-12-2006, 09:13 AM
ive noticed alot workaholics tend to have alot of planets in the 6th house

That's funny, because the sixth house never did have anything to do with a persons working life. Unless of course in it's role of relating to our employee's or to anyone who serves or assists us in any capacity. The subordinate role of those who come under the sixth house, is part of the reason why it is associated with domestic animals, because they are subordinate.

The house of the public, working life is the tenth.

Some, particularly the middle class, try to make a distinction between work that is appropriate to the tenth and work that is appropriate to the sixth, trying to differentiate between 'careers' and 'jobs'. This is not correct either.

Work, no matter whether we are refuse collectors or entrepreneurs, is the tenth. Those who serve us, in any capacity, a plumber, a waiter, a lawyer or an astrologer even, come under the sixth.

Couldn't resist clarifying.

Howl
12-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Draco,

Would you agree that the sixth is also about how we serve others, not only how they may serve us? (Our 'subordinate' - although I wouldn't choose that word, perhaps something more like 'serving' roles?)

I have four planets there, Sun and Merc included, and no particularly notable relationship or emphasis with employees (never had one) or people who otherwise serve or assist me.

On the other hand, I am about to become a public servant :p

Brooklyn Dave
12-12-2006, 05:25 PM
My sixth house is empty (guess no terrible issues?) but I have Aries on the cusp. Could that be a general impatience in work related attitudes. As far as pets are concerned, not a big pet person----one more thing to be responsible for--no thanks. I like other people's pets in general. I have cat sat in the past--not bad--cats are low maintenence.

SunMoon
01-22-2007, 01:15 AM
In the 6th i have Sun, Mercury, Neptune (these planets in Capricorn) and Uranus (in Sagittarius). AND i have Sag on the cusp. What could all this mean?

Brooklyn Dave
01-22-2007, 06:11 PM
I have Aries on the sixth with no planets there--plus no planets in Aries at all.

Belgianmoonguy
01-22-2007, 06:50 PM
My 6th house starts in Aquarius (11°18' Aqua)
The Vertex is right on my 6th house cusp (11°30' Aqua)
I met some important people through jobs i did in the holidays...

I have Jupiter (16°18' Aqua) and Sun/ Moon midpoint (16°13' Aqua) also in the 6th...
Although i live with a disease i have from my birth, i have for the rest an fair good health
I have a rather optimistic outlook over life, a lot of years waisted by pessimistic thinking...

Also if we look at 6th house as daily life... my life has a lot of unpredictable turns (Aquarius on 6th) and is most of the time fun (Jupiter)... I also try to put things of my (lack of) religion in my daily life (i'm an atheïst or non believer)

rahu
01-23-2007, 12:33 AM
the sixth house is also a money house along with the 2nd and 10th.this house is associated with self employement,the nature of your workspace and the nature of your financial talents.many planets in this house can show a person who is self-employed.itis also a house of self analysis,shows introspective time.many planets here especially saturn can show mental issues that need to be worked out.it is associated with health problems but the aspects to the chart as a whole can lessen or eliminate health issues.
rahu

freedomlover
01-23-2007, 12:52 AM
SunMoon

In the 6th i have Sun, Mercury, Neptune (these planets in Capricorn) and Uranus (in Sagittarius). AND i have Sag on the cusp. What could all this mean?

Some ideas:

You could have a lot of skills managing money, good organization and managerial skills, in general. You like a job where you can be in control. With Sag on the cusp, possibly a travelling manager, overseeing a chain of stores, etc.

The Sag/Cap combo often indicates that you are a perfectionist and/or are waaay to hard on yourself. You need to learn not to "bite off more than you can chew".

Health-wise, possible problems with the bones and joints, esp. hips and knees.
Also areas of concern: liver and skin.

Of course, the whole chart and aspects need to be taken into consideration. These ideas could be modified and even negated by other considerations in the chart.

Just tossing out some ideas..............

SunMoon
01-23-2007, 02:32 AM
Ok, thanks Freedomlover!

Cassandra
01-23-2007, 10:01 AM
I have Chiron in conjuction with the moonknot in Capricorn in the sixth house.

And chiron opposite cancer ascendant.

Im divorced as my husband left me for another woman. The first time I encountered the 2 of them together was at the local supermarket(!!!) alomost at the exact time of my Chiron return. Difference just a few seconds in degrees.

Chiron can really hurt.

Claire19
01-23-2007, 10:11 AM
I agree that Chiron can really really hurt, I have come to an understanding of this lately. It is awound that often re-opens at different times too. I have it conjunct Venus and Jupiter in Libra and have lost faith in love a long time ago. When something comes along to trigger Chiron all the old heartaches come up again.

Claire

Claire19
01-23-2007, 10:13 AM
In the 6th i have Sun, Mercury, Neptune (these planets in Capricorn) and Uranus (in Sagittarius). AND i have Sag on the cusp. What could all this mean?

Are you a photo journalist or foreign correspondent working for the government??? :)

SunMoon
01-23-2007, 10:16 PM
I wish! lol I'm not but that sounds interesting. Photo journalist that is.
Foreign correspondent, i'm way too uneducated for that and i have no planets in the 10th and 11th houses...
I only have planets in the 6th, 9th, 5th and 4th House and no planets in air signs... But thank you for the suggestion.
Also, i found this : ''The House containing the Sun in your birth horoscope chart indicates the area of life where you will be learning most of your lessons about your true Self and your purpose in life.'' and ''The HOUSE placement of Mercury in your chart will determine in what area of your life you excel at gathering information and communicating ideas, have a particular gift for organization, or make connections in your community.''
I haven't found anything that really spoke to me as far as Neptune and Uranus. Maybe it just means i like to escape boring everyday chores and wish i could do something more unusual but i don't because these planets are in Capricorn (the ruler Saturn) and so i just can't. I also have Jupiter square Saturn, Jupiter Square Uranus and Saturn Conjunct Uranus, so i think i'm beginning to understand how it all works.

flea
01-24-2007, 01:14 PM
Hi Howl,
I too have sun and merc in sag in the 6th house and then neptune in scorpio in the 6th. My ascendent is gemini so my chart ruler is in the 6th. I too have been looking at how this strong 6th house focus is playing in my life. Oh pluto and uranus conjunct in virgo give me a lot of this type of energy. I do think that the planets will give clues to health issues, neptune would present as something hidden or not easily diagnosed, mercury possibly a nervous sensibility, and sun a focus on something that effects self esteem. I have a genetic skin disorder which is hidden from view, a tendency towards an excess of nervous energy ans so to anxiety. I also had adult ance effecting self esteem which was due to sensitivity to foods and chemicals in my environment. I have looked to these as clues to the self purifying process of virgoan energy. I have spent time investigating spiritual matters to see what resonates with me, I am addicted to books of all kinds, am very interested in people and their psychology. I also feel that with the sun near the descendent I am apt to focus on the other rather than myself. It has taken me a long while to develop self reflection, maybe that is why I needed the focus on the sixth to gain this.

The working environment is an ongoing task to find my ideal situation, and I have an 11 year old dog, who is just the best, he has moon in cancer like me and I got him when jupiter was in sag last time round!

I also wanted to add something about how I see the relationship of the 6th to the 10th. 6th is all the "work" you do in work and out of it, in all parts of your life, and the 10th is how this work that often takes place below the surface (below horizon in the chart) is then received in the wider public arena of career and recognition.

With scorpio on the cusp and am interested in the deep stuff, the unconcious, the hidden, the secrets in life. In essence that base structure of the self. I am still diving deep learning and feel I will always do this.

Neptune is a big player for me it contacts 6 planets with close orbs in most cases 1-2 deg a sextile to sun, pluto, uranus, mars and a trine to chiron and moon.

Hope this info hepls. It has been cool for me reading this thread and given me some indeas to investigate.

Flea

Lissa
01-24-2007, 01:23 PM
My 6th house starts in Gemini and I have Mars(21ºGemini)there.I have a book that says that Mars in the6th shows cruelty towards small animals,but it has worked the other way around for me;I'm afraid of animals.

I'm nervous and a little bit hyperactive and like to do puzzles and crafts and work with my hands,just for entertainment(Ok,this last sentence sounds weird LOL).I have mutual recpetion between Mars and Mercury,which may explain why I love debates and kinda enjoy arguments lol.

I would think planets opposing Mars from the12th house would explain the fear of animals,but I have nothing opposing Mars(not counting with the Part of Fortune in Sagitarius).

All the best,
Lissa

Claire19
01-24-2007, 09:02 PM
Ah yes, I have Mars sextile Mercury and love debate also. I am quick with repartee and a quick thinker. Mars in the 6th would have to be badly aspected to show cruelty to animals and as you say you are afraid of their aggression rather.....actually it can be a good placement for veterinary surgeons, spending a lot of energy in pursuing healthy lifestyle and working with and in male dominated employment. So many scenarios.....

Claire

SimplyRed
02-06-2007, 08:31 PM
this means working conditions as well. what you are suited for.
I always think pets and health together in sixth kind of funny, and work indicators here as well. People do not look at the sixth much either.

I have Gemini fifth and sixth. I think. LOL use to think it was moon ruling sixth but it is Gemini.

Actually, my sixth is gemini cusp and Cancer with Jupiter there. My animals are unusual, something always different about them. I had a three legged cat named MamaCat. She was a great mamacat and very smart. She loved to Talk or whatever. She would just chat or meow away. One of her back legs missing. she wandered into my yard a long time ago. She thought she was everyone's mama, even people.

I had a cat named KingKitty, now he was a major trip. He was very mishevious and intelligent but in a world of his own. He would sit in one pose for hours on end. His domain was his domain. He would sleep in mud puddles at times. Not afraid of anything. He would sneak up on other cats and scare them them into shivers. He almost looked like he laughed about it. He looked like the Alice in Wonderland cat.

I had a ferret once, Domino. He was something else. We put him in a cage at night. One night we forgot. HE came up the stairs into our bedroom and Raised H______________
He and my dog were best friends, Max. They would jump up in the air and it looked like they were doing martial arts or something. Funny. Max can still jump in the air and almost do a 360, spin around and face you.
He disappeard for six months and lived in the wild and survived. In the dead of winter. I was at a friends on New years Eve and the fireworks spooked him. They lived in the country and he vanished. He turned up in her yard after July the fourth. Healthy

I have owned many animals. Some of them were people:D

SimplyRed
02-08-2007, 12:20 PM
Your sixth and 12th houses are huge. Transits take their time to mess around.

I wonder if you relocated and the houses would change. I wonder if that would make any difference. I know when I play around with relocaton, my chart houses change and other people's charts do as well.

Sorry, to hear about the health problems. An astrologer moved to help his daughter because of her health problems.

Sun line is the best for health from most of the sources I have read about.
My older sis moved to her Venus and Jupiter lines and said it is much better than living on her Saturn line.

cardinal19
03-09-2007, 03:34 AM
my sixth house = lilith and part of fortune conjunct in virgo. I'm not entirely sure what that means. :confused: but it's probably something having to do with work and guilt, based on what I've read about of the pof and lilith and the sixth house.

astro.teacher
03-09-2007, 03:58 AM
my sixth house = lilith and part of fortune conjunct in virgo. I'm not entirely sure what that means. :confused: but it's probably something having to do with work and guilt, based on what I've read about of the pof and lilith and the sixth house.

Im not going to touch the lilth but look to where the Mercury is in your chart, you probably have a lot of success with regards to merchadise, especially with regards to small animals. The placement of Mercury will tell you more about where your fortune can be found. If your POF is positively aspected it will grant you good health as well.

SimplyRed
03-09-2007, 05:43 AM
Gemini cusps my sixth with Jupiter in Cancer in6/7

All my animals have a wild streak in them. My dog may be half fox. Once, he disappeard for seven months, Jan through July. Nothing wrong with him when we got him back.
MamaCat had only three legs, one back leg missing when she wondered up to my back door. She was a trip, Talked all the time in cat talk. She was a Great mama cat. Once when I was leaving, one of her kittens under my car. I tried to get it to come out but could not. She saw what I was doing and told the kitten to come out.

KingKitty looked like the cat in Alice in Wonderland.

One time my room mate was walking to the store and Max the half fox like dog was in the shadows. Jessie the Lab was jumping all around my room mate. Max barked from the shadows and told Jessie to attack him. Jessie tried to bite his feet. My room mate talked about it for weeks and laughed. He called Max the general.

Now work life, guess it is like my animals.:38: :38: :38:

Marsgirl
03-10-2007, 10:28 PM
Oh, and back the original post, I don't have any planets in my 6th; I have Cancer on the cusp and the Moon its ruler is in the 3rd. Debbi Kempton-Smith, in her pivotal book Secrets from a Stargazer's Notebook (the best astrology read around, IMO, in terms of humour and user-friendliness, especially for beginners), says that the Lord of the sixth tells you what kind of foods you like; since I have the ruler in Aries, I like my food SPICY, and this is oh, so true. I eat hot sauce on everything. :p

Like you, I have no planets in the 6th house, but Leo on the cusp and the moon in the 3rd in Gemini. And again like you, I am have an Aries sun and do without a doubt love spicy foods - hot sauce on everything. Is this an Aries thing???

Claire19
03-13-2007, 06:05 AM
I also wont go near Lilith, what does that mean??? However Part of Fortune is where you will have luck and meaning in your life and in Virgo 6th house this is a double whammy. The 6th is where we need to attend to our everyday needs, housing, bread and butter, clothing etc. It denotes our health and hygiene issues, domestic pets, how we go about earning our money, employment techniques and conditions. The sixth also shows any body weaknesses and how we deal with them. Mercury as yin ruler of 6th and Virgo for now and influences our digestive system. Whereas Mercury as yang ruler of Gemini and 3rd house influences our lungs, shoulders, hands, arms and fingers. However many Virgoan influences people are craftspersons and being perfectionists will always turn out a perfect and detailed piece of work. The Virgin archetype is independent, whole in oneself and thus unmarried. Once this meant sexually inexperienced in some cultures as it is the young maiden image but single mothers for instance are often very Virgoan as well as nuns. The Vestal Virgins of old were actually prostitutes and many of that calling will have strong Virgo also.

fellow 6th houser

Soul Friend
05-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Oh, and back the original post, I don't have any planets in my 6th; I have Cancer on the cusp and the Moon its ruler is in the 3rd. Debbi Kempton-Smith, in her pivotal book Secrets from a Stargazer's Notebook (the best astrology read around, IMO, in terms of humour and user-friendliness, especially for beginners), says that the Lord of the sixth tells you what kind of foods you like; since I have the ruler in Aries, I like my food SPICY, and this is oh, so true. I eat hot sauce on everything. :p

I too have no planets in the 6thH. I think it was the 3rd page of this thread before anyone mentioned that condition and it was Manic Monday. I thought someone might direct attention to the ruler but nobody volunteered that. When I saw this post it seemed the best up to this point to respond to but only because my response is a bit tongue-in-cheek so please bear with me.:o

My 6th H is empty and ruled by Capricorn so my 8th H Saturn in Pisces at the top of my T-square is probably making me stress eat to the point of spiritual pleasure because I love all kinds of food but considering Saturn in the 8th I wonder if it might be the death of me. :p

medutis
05-17-2007, 11:07 AM
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sara31tx
05-17-2007, 10:13 PM
The Sun is technically near the end of house 5 and is therefore interpreted in house 6. What is your take on this people.SunPisces27°37'36end of house 5direct
Some astologer's tell me my sun is in the 5th house and others say it is in the 6th. Which house do you think my sun is in.

Sag Moon
05-17-2007, 11:16 PM
Sara
It depends on what house system they use also.

Usually the planet will take on both house accents if it is within 6Degs. from the next house or angle. If there is a planet is on a cusp then the energy will be pronounced in relation to the planet that is on the cusp.

I have the Moon 24Deg.Sag 6th with Jupiter 2Deg Cap 7th cusp and I feel both energies or relate my experience to the conjunction working on both levels.

sara31tx
05-18-2007, 12:36 AM
Sara
It depends on what house system they use also.

Usually the planet will take on both house accents if it is within 6Degs. from the next house or angle. If there is a planet is on a cusp then the energy will be pronounced in relation to the planet that is on the cusp.

I have the Moon 24Deg.Sag 6th with Jupiter 2Deg Cap 7th cusp and I feel both energies or relate my experience to the conjunction working on both levels.Thankyou Sag Moon

moving towards hermes
05-18-2007, 01:58 AM
wow, the depth of responses on this board makes for some really slow reading! i still have posts to read on this thread...

i've seen some very disciplined people with 6th house emphasis, living brightly and clearly. some folks with deep musical appreciation. some great outdoors people. and people naturally living lightly.

Pisces on the cusp of my 6th, holding my South Node (Neptune conjunct Sun in 3rd, Jupiter in 11th in Leo; sun and neptune vaguely square the nodal axis. is 'vaguely square' an astrological aspect? ;) ).

i am very careful about what i eat.. (gotta be organic and local and at least 90% vegan) & i might be careful about what you eat too.

yah, so watching what you eat is difficult considering how interdependent we are on each other. cause it seems like so many people would be happy with a bag of chips or a big creamy dessert. but either you can be the one in the group who pulls people up, health-wise, or you can let yourself be pulled down.

i bet that's part of the reason that 6th house emphasis is so crudely described as being prone to health problems. It's because people with such placements are both supportive and observant and know better but won't speak up about what they need in this regard. they'll go on eating what everybody else is eating and it's not good for them. 'problems' are often the first sign of a deeper consciousness unfolding. unless you want to keep living this life... ignorance of natural rhythms definitely does not equal bliss.

i especially loved some of the early posts -- they call the robert frost poem to mind (oh, it's Two Tramps in Mud Time):
...
But yield who will to their separation,
My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight.
Only where love and need are one,
And the work is play for mortal stakes,
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future's sakes.

Sounds like the 5th/6th cusp :cool:

Flower1
05-18-2007, 06:52 AM
i am very careful about what i eat.. (gotta be organic.......

This was never the case with me as far as organic except that last month the Dr. I work for (Chiropractor) asked if we would like to go on a cleansing program in which the foods that we eat had to be organic since we are getting rid of all the hormones, anti-biotics, additives, etc. in our system. We take Bovine hypothalamus to reset the gland also as the named above culprits mess it up.

As a well as being a cleanse (Standard Process products obtained through a doctor) it's geared to lose weight too. I've lost 15 lbs. in one month and feel just great.

I have Jupiter in 6th in Sag. conjunct Ceres. Out of curiosity I looked up the transits the day the Dr. approached our staff about this. Trans. Jupiter, 6th house, was opp. natal Hygeia (17 Gemini in 12th which is also conj. natal Eros 18 deg.).

Scorpio rules my 6th house cusp though and trans. Pluto has been on my Dsc. opp. natal Mars/Asc.

With trans. Pluto coming up upon natal Saturn in 7th I think it was a good idea to do this cleanse and I'm really grateful the Dr. offered it.

Mercury rules my Gemini Mars/Asc. and Jupiter, natal 6th, is trine Mercury. Aries Mercury is mutual reception with Gemini Mars. Mars particulary has always given me abundant energy but I needed to clean up my act a bit. But geesh, those chips you mention....How I love chips and right now before bed, I'm starving!! (no chips around though...:( A cup of Wu Long tea will have to do. ) And in all honesty, I'm dying for some Mexican Food!! My fav...:eek:

Though I've found by eating organically that it's really not that much more expensive (here in Calif.) and that there's nearly a healthy alternative for everything.

Flower

sara31tx
05-18-2007, 07:45 PM
I ordered my birth certificate and found out that instead of being born at 8:30pm I was born at 10:33pm. The only planet that I have in the 6th house is Jupiter in Aries

StarNur
05-22-2007, 03:51 AM
I have Pluto in Libra and Uranus in Scorpio both in the 6th. Most of the time I prefer working independently (wish I worked for myself - one day!), starting things from scratch, and shaking up my work environment one way or another...all with good, kind intentions of course :p

AquaAqua
03-10-2009, 02:42 PM
Great great thread! This is a great place for sixth house folks to share thier experience! I sure learnt a lot readingt thru the whole thread!

I am too a 'Ari' bhava or sixth house guy! I have Libra at the cusp holding mars, saturn and plutu each in 4 DEGREE conjunction. I also have jupiter there in Scorpio conjuncting my Descendant.

I liked Cara4Arts post - its so true of Saturn in Sixth. Also Rahu's post was bang on!

A few things i have experienced with sixth house - Competitive workplace (Mars), extreme politics and jealousy at workplace (pluto), worrying about health, self healing, very developed instinct abt health issues, periods of unemployment, possible self emploment etc (saturn).

Issues with daily routine are also emphasised!


Aqua

AquaAqua
03-10-2009, 02:54 PM
i am very careful about what i eat.. (gotta be organic and local and at least 90% vegan) & i might be careful about what you eat too.

yah, so watching what you eat is difficult considering how interdependent we are on each other. cause it seems like so many people would be happy with a bag of chips or a big creamy dessert. but either you can be the one in the group who pulls people up, health-wise, or you can let yourself be pulled down.

i bet that's part of the reason that 6th house emphasis is so crudely described as being prone to health problems. It's because people with such placements are both supportive and observant and know better but won't speak up about what they need in this regard. they'll go on eating what everybody else is eating and it's not good for them. 'problems' are often the first sign of a deeper consciousness unfolding. unless you want to keep living this life... ignorance of natural rhythms definitely does not equal bliss.

i especially loved some of the early posts -- they call the robert frost poem to mind (oh, it's Two Tramps in Mud Time):
...
But yield who will to their separation,
My object in living is to unite
My avocation and my vocation
As my two eyes make one in sight.
Only where love and need are one,
And the work is play for mortal stakes,
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future's sakes.

Sounds like the 5th/6th cusp :cool:

Awesome post! The highlighted part is simply brilliant!!!

And i love the poem!! its so Sixth house!!!!!

Aqua

Fluffy Girl
03-11-2009, 05:30 PM
Aqua, You have digged a good thread. Its good for learning purpose for beginners like me.

In my sixth house, I have Jupiter conj Uranus in Sag. I associate the sixth house with colleagues and work environment. Fortunately, I am always appreciated for my work. I always feel the need of doing more and more work. I tend to work hard and the output is always amazing. I usually shock others with my outstanding efforts. I feel bored at job when there is nothing to do or when there is nothing NEW to do. My rapport with my bosses is always good and even other departments also appreciate my work due to my work commitment. I truly feel the impact of Jupiter and Uranus in my 6th house. At job, I feel that the confidence is running in my blood and I have urge to do more and more work. Routine things really bore me and I reach to my boss asking, is there anything else that I can do for my job? It really brings the good impact. For me, I get the NEW work and for others it shows my interest in job that I want to input more.

Plus, I got other chances of job easily. Like, my one job was dropped because the department was closed and the other dept. was ready to take me. I feel there are lots of job opportunities for me. (Expansion of Jupiter)

As per aspects, my Moon trine Uranus. Sure i feel the mood swings and i keep on bringing new methods of doing these..

Is that all..? I am pretty new to astrology. Correct me if i view it wrong.

omnia
03-12-2009, 09:06 AM
Hi there,
I have got Pluto in the sixth house and Lilith in Libra.It's pretty wide house.
The ruler of the 6th h -is in in the 2nd house (Venus).I've always find it difficult to find satisfaction in the work.I've chaged many jobs, and i still feel unsatisfied.:(Probably because of the square of the Moon in Cancer and Pluto.Mercury is in my 12th house(Aries)and is unaspected.

Nexus7
03-12-2009, 09:26 AM
OK (rudely butting in) I've got Mars in the 6th House - the only major planet anywhere in that quadrant, so it is the 'handle' of a bucket. It is in Taurus.

No longer so lonely in this quadrant maybe. Varuna is 3 degrees away from it, Nessus is also close by. Oh my.

Initially this can be lazy to get going, but when it does, it has all the meomentum of an express train.

Probably no accident that I always felt that if it ever had to be a question of working for a crust, I might just be a whole lot better off being self-employed......

Soneone once warned me to 'watch that Mars of mine.' It may be easy to see ourselves as butter not melting in our mouths etc, but maybe in the end, I have underestimated how a Mars like this can come across. All the same, being ruled by Venus and not being in a natually 'assertive' house, it is often not easy to know when to be diplomatic and 'nice' and when to be firm and uncompromising: it can be easy to get it wrong.

Healthwise, it seems to mean a proneness of one or two recurring chronic inflammations (it squares Chiron) and lots of throat infections because of overuse of the old voice at work.

coni
03-12-2009, 05:23 PM
hi,

i have sun (gemini), merc (taurus), venus (gemini) and jupiter (taurus) all in 6th house - what does that mean? as i understand it, everything is work- or health related for me, but i just dont understand in what sense...?

thanks

Claire19
03-16-2009, 07:35 AM
I have a sixth house stellium including Sun, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn. On top of that, I have Moon in Virgo... talk about pedantic ;)

Sixth house is also small animals and pets, and Sagittarius is one of those outdoorsy signs that love animals, Howl, so maybe you like animals or have a lot of pets?

This is the best comment so far. Talk of enemies etc is not accurate.
I have a 6th house stellium with the SUn as ruler and also posited there.

Many people have trouble with this house which I dont understand.
It is the house of everyday rituals, services, employment in order to have proper clothing, food and shelter. Where the domestic animals come is originally it pertained to those who gave milk, meat and wool etc. In the old days it was the house of servants and slaves. It deals with diet and hygiene and herbal remedies. Those that can be grown at home etc.
It is the mundane world and the practical and necessary. I have Saturn Mercury and Pluto also there. THe aspects from elsewhere in the chart tell the full story always.

It can indicate afflictions of the body mainly due to poor eating habits.
Saturn for instance influences disease of the bones. Mercury can influence the lungs, hands, arms and shoulders and Pluto the regenerative organs and the elimination process.

The Sun in Leo in my case indicates scoliosis of the spine Once again the degree of the sign points to the particular part of the body affected.

It is the house of the Virgin, i.e. the spinster aunt, who spun the clothing etc for the family hence the name "spin"ster.....It does not mean no sexual experience really but being unmarried and whole in oneself. i.e. vestal virgins were actually temple prostitutes as well as taking care of the rituals.

HOpe this helps somewhat.

Claire19
03-16-2009, 07:44 AM
OK (rudely butting in) I've got Mars in the 6th House - the only major planet anywhere in that quadrant, so it is the 'handle' of a bucket. It is in Taurus.

No longer so lonely in this quadrant maybe. Varuna is 3 degrees away from it, Nessus is also close by. Oh my.

Initially this can be lazy to get going, but when it does, it has all the meomentum of an express train.

Probably no accident that I always felt that if it ever had to be a question of working for a crust, I might just be a whole lot better off being self-employed......

Soneone once warned me to 'watch that Mars of mine.' It may be easy to see ourselves as butter not melting in our mouths etc, but maybe in the end, I have underestimated how a Mars like this can come across. All the same, being ruled by Venus and not being in a natually 'assertive' house, it is often not easy to know when to be diplomatic and 'nice' and when to be firm and uncompromising: it can be easy to get it wrong.

Healthwise, it seems to mean a proneness of one or two recurring chronic inflammations (it squares Chiron) and lots of throat infections because of overuse of the old voice at work.
The only legitimate place is Mars in Taurus and you have described this perfectly. THere can be conflicts at work or macho behaviour or masculine energies you have to deal with. However we need the aspects from elsewhere to determine the full influence. I dont use CHiron but I have heard it is the wound we cant heal ourselves but can heal others and they can in turn heal us. What is Venus doing elsewhere? It can mean working with money, investments and property, anything that is earthy such as horticulture, farming, pottery and in some cases music is a strong influence. You may like hot spicy foods as well having a sweet tooth. Conversely these things may disagree with you.

THere are many scenarios.

Chimerical
03-18-2009, 06:55 PM
in my sixth house....I've got Mars (21 degrees) in Aries.. and I'm pretty sure I could start an argument with myself, I am very accident prone, and run very high fevers when ill...
oh..and what do you know..chiron is there at 20 degrees ..so I'm just learning here but this must be pretty significant (dangerouse even?)

Chimerical
03-18-2009, 07:14 PM
My 6th house starts in Gemini and I have Mars(21ºGemini)there.I have a book that says that Mars in the6th shows cruelty towards small animals,but it has worked the other way around for me;I'm afraid of animals.

I'm nervous and a little bit hyperactive and like to do puzzles and crafts and work with my hands,just for entertainment(Ok,this last sentence sounds weird LOL).I have mutual recpetion between Mars and Mercury,which may explain why I love debates and kinda enjoy arguments lol.

I would think planets opposing Mars from the12th house would explain the fear of animals,but I have nothing opposing Mars(not counting with the Part of Fortune in Sagitarius).

All the best,
Lissa
whoa! I have very strong feelings toward animals..feelings of love and protection, especially the small ones..this is a soft spot with me..and I have mars in aries in the 6th

Chimerical
03-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Gemini cusps my sixth with Jupiter in Cancer in6/7

All my animals have a wild streak in them. My dog may be half fox. Once, he disappeard for seven months, Jan through July. Nothing wrong with him when we got him back.
MamaCat had only three legs, one back leg missing when she wondered up to my back door. She was a trip, Talked all the time in cat talk. She was a Great mama cat. Once when I was leaving, one of her kittens under my car. I tried to get it to come out but could not. She saw what I was doing and told the kitten to come out.

KingKitty looked like the cat in Alice in Wonderland.

One time my room mate was walking to the store and Max the half fox like dog was in the shadows. Jessie the Lab was jumping all around my room mate. Max barked from the shadows and told Jessie to attack him. Jessie tried to bite his feet. My room mate talked about it for weeks and laughed. He called Max the general.

Now work life, guess it is like my animals.:38: :38: :38:
SimplyRed,
I find your animal stories very fascinating and funny!!
LOL
:)

saree
03-19-2009, 04:18 PM
I have Aqua as my sixth house. and only south node is there.



Interesting thing to note is that all my houses related to career are Air houses, Second house Libra and 10th house Gemini.

and one more interesting thing is that

my Ascendent is Earth Virgo, Sun is Pisces, Moon Aries, and Midheaven is Air.

starnoud
03-19-2009, 05:12 PM
Of course, a great thread it is.
Especially when it involves yourself. Your own natal chart. And therefore I cheer with you: a very nice thread !

BUT ... haha... a virgo trait ?.......
.... but my Saturn in 6th is not satisfied with 'just a great thread'...

I would loooove when personal stories here are going to be organised and wouldn't it be nice when we have some statistics in the end? I feel only then it would really make sense (again I think that is soooo Virgo). It would be useful. For any astrology-addict to be able to read the main outcomes of all these lovely people that have contributed here.

It looks like we are collecting stories here, but we don't organize them?

By the way, I have Mercury, Saturn, Northnode, Sun in the 6th house.
Venus and Chiron are only 1 degree away (in the 5th).
And its totally Aries there. From 2º Aries - 23º Aries. It's the opposite of an intercepted sign (which might be hard to manifest), it's an imprisoned (free translation from dutch LOL) sign. The cosmic Aries energy MUST be canalised in my case.

Vulcan was thrown out of heaven and created many many things (Vulcan is about expertise and skills, as I see it).
I use Vulcan, a hypothetical planet, using the Vulcan table given in a book about Vulcan and Persephone.
So for me it works like this: Vulcan rules Virgo (as a dayruler and he is nightruler of the other logical sign Gemini, but in the end I just use Mercury and Vulcan together as rulers of Gemini and Virgo both).

Nexus7
03-19-2009, 09:52 PM
The only legitimate place is Mars in Taurus and you have described this perfectly

Do you mean that this is the only place Mars could be according to my description, or that the other new bodies I mentioned can't be included? Personally, I think these are 'interesting times' regarding what should be viewd as legit and what not. So many new bodies....

My Mars square Chiron is 1 degree off orb, in fact there was already a t-square between Moon/Mars and Uranus before Chiron came along.

And that is another thing: I have had my share of head injuries - concussion and dislocated jaw at 17 after a car accident in France, though nothing seems to have activated the t-square at the time. Rather, Sun and Neptune by transit were squaring natal Neptune (which squares my Mars dispositor).

Moped accidents a couple of times, also an encounter with a suburban train a few years back that got a little closer than was good for me.

Recently, I have read that getting knocked out can do more for weeks or even months afterwards that I bargained for at the time. Pity I didn't know it at the time.

Claire19
03-20-2009, 12:30 AM
I have Saturn on the 6th cusp, arthritis, government work and often periods of unemployment. I have it conjunct Mercury so learning on the job, more than one at a time, lots of chit chat and gossip in the workplace. Tendency to lung infections. Conjunct Pluto, confidential police work, sexual issues in the workplace, loss of pets very painful, Virgo dog, Scorpio dog. Sun ruling 6th in Leo and posited there. Worked in entertainment industry, connections to casinos. My main focus in life has been my work. Connecting to many Leo men in my everyday situation. SO many scenarios, wont bore you with them.

The 6th is the everyday rituals and services, including diet, clothing and shelter. The 6th house is accommodation rather than your home where you put down roots unless the Moon is there. It is our bread and butter work as opposed to the career or vocation of the 10th house. It is servants and services. Small domestic animals used for meat and milk etc was original meaning. It is rather herbal and alternative remedies. It is Virgo's house and where we can be self sufficient and whole in our selves which is the true meaning of virgin. Not necessarily sexually inexperienced but rather unmarried or independent because we can support ourselves. It is the archetype of the maiden aunt who sits and weaves. The "spinster".It was in the past the older daughter who never married but took care of the family including the weaving and craftswork, cooking etc. Seamstress.:)

You get the picture I am sure.

Claire19
03-20-2009, 12:39 AM
Of course, a great thread it is.
Especially when it involves yourself. Your own natal chart. And therefore I cheer with you: a very nice thread !

BUT ... haha... a virgo trait ?.......
.... but my Saturn in 6th is not satisfied with 'just a great thread'...

I would loooove when personal stories here are going to be organised and wouldn't it be nice when we have some statistics in the end? I feel only then it would really make sense (again I think that is soooo Virgo). It would be useful. For any astrology-addict to be able to read the main outcomes of all these lovely people that have contributed here.

It looks like we are collecting stories here, but we don't organize them?

By the way, I have Mercury, Saturn, Northnode, Sun in the 6th house.
Venus and Chiron are only 1 degree away (in the 5th).
And its totally Aries there. From 2º Aries - 23º Aries. It's the opposite of an intercepted sign (which might be hard to manifest), it's an imprisoned (free translation from dutch LOL) sign. The cosmic Aries energy MUST be canalised in my case.

Vulcan was thrown out of heaven and created many many things (Vulcan is about expertise and skills, as I see it).
I use Vulcan, a hypothetical planet, using the Vulcan table given in a book about Vulcan and Persephone.
So for me it works like this: Vulcan rules Virgo (as a dayruler and he is nightruler of the other logical sign Gemini, but in the end I just use Mercury and Vulcan together as rulers of Gemini and Virgo both). I think that Vulcan will be recognised as true ruler of Virgo, one day. I am hoping so with a 6th house stellium and Virgo ruling descendant. Needless to say I am unmarried.

I can see it as co ruler of Gemini. Vulcan was the craftsman, smithy, who flew too close to the SUn and now it orbits s very close and being so small is hardly ever seen. It is next to Mercury which fits.

My saturn sits in the 5th but on the 6th cusp and I have had lovers who were younger and also Gemini as it conjuncts Mercury. THey were met in everyday circumstances such as when eating, shopping or working as Mercury sits in the 6th house in Leo. I could go on but wont bore everyone. I also have the Sun in Leo in the 6th and Leo on the cusp. Main focus of my life, needless to say.

4leafclovah
03-20-2009, 07:09 AM
I have Mars in Cap and Merc/ Aqua, 6th..but I do have some afflictions. Main issues have been nervousness, minor accidents and infections. I am hard worker but hate being bossed around. Would rather work for myself. I have a lot of energy, people say I make them dizzy because I buzz around like a bee. Saturn is ruler of 6th and in Cancer, so I am really affected by my emotions. I would say 90% of my illnesses are due to my emotions.

starnoud
03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Years ago I met a hairdresser, an older (experienced) man. We were waiting for our food-order. He looked at me and said: I can tell by the skin and the hair lots of things about people. It was quite good what he told about me. I remember this part the best, he said: You have a lot of intellectual knowhow, wisdom, stuff ( I don't know in English), but the problem is that you cannot find a practical way with it. You feel alone and useless. Your intellectual talents are unable to find a satisfying outlet, direction. In other words, I am smart but I cant find my way with it.
Back to 6th house issues:
Mercury in 4º Aries (6th house). It is ruler 9th , because cusp 9th is Gemini.
Moon in 3º Virgo (10th almost 11th). It is "ruler 9th", because of the total intercepted Cancer sign there.

So in a way I do have 2 different (!) rulers , ruling my 9th house.
They are INCONJUNCT ! And that could be the difficulty the hairdresser was talking about. At least I do believe it is like that.

Now, I have set a goal. I am working hard on this prediction: Who will win the worldcup-soccer final, 11th July 2010 ? It is a huge world event, one of the biggest.
The thing is: My progressed Moon will be conjunct that natal Mercury in 4º Aries those days !!! So I think , with a bit of luck or whatsoever, that for once (and forever?) the natal inconjunct problem will be solved: my total vision will be clear and recognised (Moon). Amen.

saree
03-20-2009, 12:26 PM
i would agree with starnaud,

can we have editors, who can post the stories, by editing them for substance, and may link in a database so that we dont have to search information by going from link to link.

there's this new concept in web, which says, link data, into database, so that one may not have to go through a lot of information to find data one is looking for.

and we know lot of what is told by us, is stupid information, and the substance of a discussion is lost in the burden and plethora of information.

Story telling as a trait of a civilization is great, but it has to have a place, nor so that it destroys, and Forces it's way on to people who are already bombarded with loads of information.

the cocept of which i am talking about is like

dbpedia.org.


when we search for germany, the related topics in a box spur up in wikipedia, so a guy came up with the idea to put into databases concepts.


scientists know of protiens which help fight certain diseases, and if we google them we wouldn't find that data,

say 30 proteins which help fight cancer....and lots of scientists know this, and they have this data guarded and locked into articles and their own laboratories.

while collaboration demands, that raw data will be available to people who wants to re-search a topic.



building a better world.

hermetic
03-21-2009, 02:42 PM
what a great thread!

I have Neptune in Sag and Lilith conj SN in Cap, all in 6th house. Ruler Jupiter is in 5th, Scorpio, squared by Moon.

So far this has mostly affected my health, female hormonal issues, just like my mom and granda had(Lilith conj SN) but also teeth, skin and bone problems(conjunction in Capricorn)
Neptune gives me high sensitivity to all drugs, alcohol, even foods, lots of allergies and intolerances. Considering my age group, I've always been sicker than most.
Regular meds don't ever work, I've found much success with homeopathy and acupuncture, I often read it was another sign of Neptune in 6th

I always get ill after love-life crashes(Neptune squares Venus).

And I have big appetite when I'm too emotional(Jup square Moon) which is quite often(Cancer asc) :(

Work-wise and everyday things, Neptune is casting big shadow there too. I haven't worked except giving classes to kids(Jup in 5th) and seems like I wander a lot in life, my everyday is like in a movie Groundhog day.
very unclear what I wish to do and how I wish to be of service to this society. Making myself happy is not an option(SN talking)

Funny, the sixth also rules small pets - I found connection to my only pet so far - Siamese cat(Jupiter ruled) who just dissapeared(Neptune) one day after 6 years. We never found out what happened to her.

MTTY05
03-22-2009, 02:31 AM
The cusp of my 6th is in Gemini, without in planets in the 6th. Though my 6th is duplicated, as my the cusp of my 5th is in Gemini also.

To me this means that I MUST have a job that I actually enjoy doing. I really cannot bear to have a job that I hate, or even worse, one that makes me depressed. Needless to say, I've gone from job to job. Often times suddenly quitting out of the blue.

Moon Muse
03-24-2009, 05:55 AM
Uranus in Cancer square Jupiter in Aries.

Have had untold number of "jobs". Never been fired ( Libra Moon). Love to be of service but dislike being employed by another, it feels like being enslaved when I have no control (Scorpio Midheaven ). Have always been lucky to find an equal or better position in the field of cardiac health, Venus in Leo trine that Jupiter in Aries.

Brand new to the forum and hope to share insight with you all. Moon conjunct Neptune in the 8th house.

Claire19
03-26-2009, 12:32 AM
Hello
I have to pretty much agree the 6th house is about service and the others things that others have said. I also agree it does seem chironic. I think I might have read that another "ruler" (or something with strong affinity with 6th house) of the 6th house is indeed chiron.

I see it as the service house pretty much. Having Sag on it with planets being in Sag and 6th house probably indicates a sag related service, for example, teaching, law, philosophy politics etc. It could even be something as broad as say public health, the philoshophy behind health.

I have pluto in the 6th house. I'm still waiting to bring down and regenerate the service that I intend to be in. I have been told though that I am very fanatical and serious when it comes to work though.

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Here's a link but most the of the info is mentioned in previous posts:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h6.html

Veterinary services with large animals, entrepreneurial work and travel industry with Sagittarius. It can also be involvement with ethnic cuisine for instance. Ethics and hygiene say with restaurants and public eating places.

Depending on what your Pluto is aspecting will tell of your experiences in the 6th house. It is where you experience intensity and crises with major transformations. It can deal with the eliminative and generative organs.
As well as sexual issues and betrayal and backbiting in the workplace and the experience of life and death issues such as insurance, estate matters and criminal work.

Claire19
03-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Uranus in Cancer square Jupiter in Aries.

Have had untold number of "jobs". Never been fired ( Libra Moon). Love to be of service but dislike being employed by another, it feels like being enslaved when I have no control (Scorpio Midheaven ). Have always been lucky to find an equal or better position in the field of cardiac health, Venus in Leo trine that Jupiter in Aries.

Brand new to the forum and hope to share insight with you all. Moon conjunct Neptune in the 8th house.

I have a 6th house stelllium including Mercury and also have had untold jobs and sometimes fired or made redundant with conjunction to Saturn. I have a Scorpio Midheaven with Pluto in the 6th also. I have certification in alternative healing with flower essences and nutrition. Pluto conjunct.

I think the dislike of being an employee can come from the Scorpio Midheaven and you may have issues in the 10th house of authority figures.
Like to be your own boss and in control and often prefer to work alone but within a team perhaps.

Claire19
03-26-2009, 12:38 AM
The cusp of my 6th is in Gemini, without in planets in the 6th. Though my 6th is duplicated, as my the cusp of my 5th is in Gemini also.

To me this means that I MUST have a job that I actually enjoy doing. I really cannot bear to have a job that I hate, or even worse, one that makes me depressed. Needless to say, I've gone from job to job. Often times suddenly quitting out of the blue.

What is your Mercury doing???? I have done what you have done and have Mercury in the 6th. Sometimes having more than one job can relieve the routine and the boredom i.e. two part time jobs.

:)

Claire19
03-26-2009, 12:43 AM
Do you mean that this is the only place Mars could be according to my description, or that the other new bodies I mentioned can't be included? Personally, I think these are 'interesting times' regarding what should be viewd as legit and what not. So many new bodies....

My Mars square Chiron is 1 degree off orb, in fact there was already a t-square between Moon/Mars and Uranus before Chiron came along.

And that is another thing: I have had my share of head injuries - concussion and dislocated jaw at 17 after a car accident in France, though nothing seems to have activated the t-square at the time. Rather, Sun and Neptune by transit were squaring natal Neptune (which squares my Mars dispositor).

Moped accidents a couple of times, also an encounter with a suburban train a few years back that got a little closer than was good for me.

Recently, I have read that getting knocked out can do more for weeks or even months afterwards that I bargained for at the time. Pity I didn't know it at the time.

What actually do you have in the 6th??? The Mars in Taurus relates to the dislocated jaw in an accident but Mars must be aspecting elsewhere unless all these things happened in the workplace. The transits you mention would be valid if there is an echo in the natal chart with aspects to the planets, not necessarily the same aspect but a contact.

Claire19
03-26-2009, 12:49 AM
I have Mars in Cap and Merc/ Aqua, 6th..but I do have some afflictions. Main issues have been nervousness, minor accidents and infections. I am hard worker but hate being bossed around. Would rather work for myself. I have a lot of energy, people say I make them dizzy because I buzz around like a bee. Saturn is ruler of 6th and in Cancer, so I am really affected by my emotions. I would say 90% of my illnesses are due to my emotions.

With Capricorn in the 6th you would be a hardworker and probably quite ambitious to be an authority figure. This can come about if you have connections to your 10th house. Mercury is the busy bee and also nervous.
You can have many changes and also learning on the job. More than one job at a time also. Mars also likes to have own ideas and has a lot of energy.
Can be accidents with bones and the head also arthritis can be a problem sometimes due to repetitive movements. Do you have connection with governmental agencies at all. You would be a good chiropractor and can work with family or from home at one stage. Also managing a restaurant
or dealing with food and beverages. I am sure you are using modern technologies with Aquarius there too. I would say watch for vulnerabilities in your ankle and calve area.:)

Moon Muse
03-26-2009, 02:11 AM
I have a 6th house stelllium including Mercury and also have had untold jobs and sometimes fired or made redundant with conjunction to Saturn. I have a Scorpio Midheaven with Pluto in the 6th also. I have certification in alternative healing with flower essences and nutrition. Pluto conjunct.

I think the dislike of being an employee can come from the Scorpio Midheaven and you may have issues in the 10th house of authority figures.
Like to be your own boss and in control and often prefer to work alone but within a team perhaps.

Great insight Claire 19!

Issues with authority figures! Ah Men! How true with Scorpio mid-heaven, can't fathom how you deal with this and Pluto in the 6th ...to boot! With my Uranus in Cancer in the 6th and Vesta on the cusp of 6th directly opposed Chiron on the cusp of the 12th, also Vesta is mid-point of Uranus 6th and Sun in the 5th so big healing issues here especially since Chiron (natal) is currently conjunct transiting Pluto, I've recently had that feeling of Pluto bringing up authority/employment issues...so I completely purged my lifetime of ingrained "western style work culture" and accepted employment in another country!

Interestingly, I landed where I am now as member of the the management. This is something I have always avoided but the shadow aspect of self needed a voice, ( as Saturn is chart ruler with last degrees of Capricorn on ascendant. I always preferred to be the independent "contractor" that shunned responsibility and accountability...but those hidden wounds will fester (Chiron Cap 12th), and now I am the voice of authority, and beginning again ( almost exact second Saturn return as my natal Saturn is 26 degrees of Virgo! ). Thus my chart ruler Saturn is trine my ascend in Cap. and I'm being tested as to the strength of my hopefully "just and fair" authority over employees. This is the growth my psyche needed.

A side note of my avoidance of authority figures stems from being the youngest child and only daughter in a family of older brothers. My Venus is 7 degrees Leo, the eldest brother has Pluto at that degree and the other brother has Saturn at that same 7 Leo. Ouch!!
I was told I was only a girl who knew NOTHING all my life!

The independent rebel comes from Mars Gemini exactly sextile Pluto in Leo. Now with time and much inner work, my ruler Saturn is finding a structure by helping create a means for the "third world" to have affordable and advanced health care.

Thanks again for your bright insight, it helps illuminate my development!

sara31tx
04-07-2009, 01:22 AM
I have Jupiter in Aries in the 6th

MTTY05
04-07-2009, 02:53 AM
What is your Mercury doing???? I have done what you have done and have Mercury in the 6th. Sometimes having more than one job can relieve the routine and the boredom i.e. two part time jobs.

:)
My Mercury is in Virgo, 8th house. Although it's in Virgo, I really can't stand boring, routine work. I'll probably get back into sales when the economy recovers.

Conjunct: Sun, Mars, Venus
Trine: Neptune
Sextile: Pluto
Square: Saturn


What sign is yours in?

Claire19
04-08-2009, 01:41 AM
I have a sixth house stellium including Sun, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn. On top of that, I have Moon in Virgo... talk about pedantic ;)

Sixth house is also small animals and pets, and Sagittarius is one of those outdoorsy signs that love animals, Howl, so maybe you like animals or have a lot of pets? Sagittarius is more the bigger animals and those in the wild. THis is a classic scenario for veterinarian science. This is a very complicated mix you have in the 6th. Take each planet and look at its aspects elsewhere. Your work life and daily needs and rituals are the main focus of your life. I have also Sun, Mercury and Saturn there.

Claire19
04-08-2009, 01:46 AM
My Mercury is in Virgo, 8th house. Although it's in Virgo, I really can't stand boring, routine work. I'll probably get back into sales when the economy recovers.

Conjunct: Sun, Mars, Venus
Trine: Neptune
Sextile: Pluto
Square: Saturn


What sign is yours in?

I have Mercury conjunct Saturn and Pluto in Leo in the 6th. With your 8th house Mercury you can be dealing with life and death matters, estates, insurance, others assets and finances, large corporations. With the 8th house emphasis you would be rather a deep thinker and perhaps have a profound interest in metaphysics and the other realms of life. I also have Venus and Mars in the 8th house sextile Pluto. Your aspects are of a person not content to deal on a superficial level with the mundane matters of life. You can be quite psychic and have a strong magnetism.

entrevisions
04-09-2009, 06:34 PM
i have venus in the sixth house and i am the best worker with attitude you have never seen !