Is there a reconsiliation?

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Hi,

Can a horary astrologer help me with this question?

Is there a reconciliation? How does he think of me now?

He is married if that makes a difference in chart.

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Hi,

The man I asked is going through a separation, is his partner considered ex-wife or family member which is 7th and 4th house respectively?

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Who is he to you? A lover? A friend?

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An ex-lover.

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Since there is nothing in the post that shows you were ever a committed couple, I'll assign him to the 5th house.

His significator is Mars Leo 4:03 in the radical 8th house (his turned 4th; his wife's turned 10th). His wife is ruled by the turned 7th house (the radical 11th) and, thus, her significator is Venus 14:00 in the radical 5th house (his turned 1st; her turned 7th).

First of all, his significator (Mars) is peregrine with no essential dignity at all. This means that whatever his situation is, there isn't much that he can do to change it. He has accidental dibility in the radical chart, but accidental dignity in his turned and hers. This means that although you may think he's weak, vulnerable, upset, etc now, he and she will disagree with you. His significator in his turned 4th confuses me. The 4th house could be his family, emotions or past. I don't know which it is. Given his current situation, it could be all three.

Her significator, Venus, has powerful essential and accidental dignities. It looks like she has the upper hand in the relationship. Her significator in his tuned 1st house shows her remaining interest in him. I don't see reception, so the interest could be for non-emotional reason. I'm not sure. Her significator is in the detriment of Mars, though, showing negative feelings on his sides towards her.

There's no application between Venus and Mars. In fact, there's a separating square showing the separation after a conflict. There is translation of light, however, from Jupiter Rx. Jupiter Rx is your significator, but it's unlikely that you are trying to reconcile between them, so I'll guess that in this situation it is signifying someone. This translation of light shows a mediator who is close to reconciliation, but I don't think they will reconcile for the following reasons:

1) Jupiter in this chart is an accidental malefic. The mediator will harm the situation unintentionally.
2) Jupiter has no essential dignity;thus, no power to do much.
3) Jupiter has powerful essential dibility, bad influence.
4) Jupiter is only translating the light because it happens to be Rx. If it were direct, this wouldn't translate any light. RX motion is an abnormal motion that will eventually statione and move on forward. The mediator is either doing the reconcliation for the wrong (or malicious) reasons or will give up soon.
5) There's no reception between Venus and Mars; no affection or deep interest
6) Finally, the translation of light is through a square and an opposition. Even if they get beck together, they will end up fighting again.

So the answer to the question "Is there a reconciliation?" is yes, there is one but it will eventually fail.

Now, you.

You are signified by Jupiter Rx in Scoprio. It is in via combusta and Rx motion. This is great essential dibility. You only have essential dignity by term. Rx motion showing you going back to the issue.

There is mutual reception between Mars and Jupiter. Mars receives Jupiter by sign, triplicity and face. Jupiter receives Mars by triplicity. I'm inclined to think that he has more feelings for you that you do for him. Jupiter is in the detriment of Venus. There's a chance that the wife knows about you and dislikes you.

Mars and Jupiter Rx are mutually applying, but there's frustration by the Moon and Saturn. The Moon as co-significator of you is applying to Mars. The Moon last aspect with a traditional planet is an opposition with the Sun, a general significator of men, and with a modern planet is a conjuction Pluto Rx, a modern malefic.

You still have some feelings for him and he has a lot of feelinsg for you. But it is possible that he is mainly thinking about you since he is going through a break-up. If you are out of touch, you both are thinking of contacting one another. If you are in touch, you both are considering reviving what you once had. It will not work out though, which is not a surprise given the circumstances. If you really do wanna get back together with him, it'll be a long time before it happens. It's likely that you'll lose interest before then.

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Sorehearted,

Sincerely thanks for the help.

I don't know if it makes a difference in reading the chart, when I asked the question, I was thinking of a reconciliation between the two of us. We were dating each other when he was going through a separation but he has lots of issues with his wife which make our advancement difficult. They have children complicate things more.

I ran out of patience, drifted away from him, and let him know he should be clear of what he wants. If he wants his wife, he should go for her and salvage the marriage whole heartedly and if he wants me, he has to settle the issues with his wife before we continue.

It's very unusual for me to fall for married man or attached man. It was a very chemistry thing between the two of us, very strong chemistry that I have never experienced before and my emotions rule over head then. I was very fond of him but are very disappointed with progress. I have urges to contact him but I know I won't do that. We are not in contact now and you are right that I'm beginning to lose interest as things have been dragging for more than my patience allow. I'm very firmed that I won't make the contact which I wonder if he will or has already made up his mind. If I don't hear from him, I'll take it that he has made up his mind to salvage his marriage which is why I asked if he is working towards a reconciliation between us and if he has given up on ours.

If you don't mind, I'll like to ask for further explaination below..

There's a chance that the wife knows about you and dislikes you.

I don't know if his wife knows about me. I am very anonymous and have not met his wife. I don't know if he will told his wife about me.

If you are in touch, you both are considering reviving what you once had. It will not work out though, which is not a surprise given the circumstances.

Was it because he is not willing to make an effort?


If you really do wanna get back together with him, it'll be a long time before it happens. It's likely that you'll lose interest before then.

how long will it be? Many more years? Can I tell when will I hear from him again?


Thanks with luv,
bale

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Sorehearted,

The Moon last aspect with a traditional planet is an opposition with the Sun, a general significator of men, and with a modern planet is a conjuction Pluto Rx, a modern malefic.

what does the above mean if you dont' mind to explain further? we'll mostly end up with grudges and hurt?

Thanks with Luv,
bale

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I didn't know whom you meant when you asked about the reconciliation so I looked for both with you and with the wife. Doesn't seem it'll work out with either one of you.

Maybe the wife knows that there someone else. Or maybe she feels it. But there's indication in the chart that she has some kind of idea.

I cannot judge by the this chart when he's gonna call because of the frustration. He may not call at all.

I don't know when you could get back together *if* you do at all. You may ask this as a separate horary if something new and drastic comes up in the situation. If you cannot wait for a change to take place, then you may ask later but no sooner than 6 months from now.

Hope I've been helpful.

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sorehearted,

I'm contented by knowing this. Thank you for your help on this. You've been very helpful.

With Luv,
bale