Prob with solar arc rectification

[astropsychologist]

Hi,
I find this youtube clip, recommended by others on this forum, on how to rectify birth times using solar arcs very helpful...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
But I'm just curious about something... In the clip she moves the planets to the angles, but don't the angles also move in solar arcs?

Therefore how can you tell if a planet is a few degrees before or after an angle? For example, say someone experiences the death of someone close to them at 5 years old and you can see Pluto is near the Asc....how do you know whether Pluto is in the 12th, 5 degrees before the Asc or if it's in the 1st, 5 degrees after the Asc? Because in the 1st case Pluto would have solar arced to the Asc and in the second case, the Asc would have solar arced to Pluto, which would have the same meaning more or less.
Can anyone explain this?

[astrologer50]

Hi,
I find this youtube clip, recommended by others on this forum, on how to rectify birth times using solar arcs very helpful...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
But I'm just curious about something... In the clip she moves the planets to the angles, but don't the angles also move in solar arcs?

Therefore how can you tell if a planet is a few degrees before or after an angle? For example, say someone experiences the death of someone close to them at 5 years old and you can see Pluto is near the Asc....how do you know whether Pluto is in the 12th, 5 degrees before the Asc or if it's in the 1st, 5 degrees after the Asc? Because in the 1st case Pluto would have solar arced to the Asc and in the second case, the Asc would have solar arced to Pluto, which would have the same meaning more or less.
Can anyone explain this?

Interesting question, there is a BIG difference between natal pluto being in 12th or 1st and you need to ascertain which one it is in. Either way a major transformation within family should have happened.

Having Pluto in first I call this the plutonic lid cos these people hold themselves aloof, distant and 'come over' as very private, sometimes powerful people..... Tends to be a loner and hold innermost self aloof from those around. Penetrating gaze. Person power and will is indicated. Much more below the surface than is shown above.If energies will be blocked if Pluto is negatively aspected in the birth chart, causing deep‑rooted psychological problems that can emerge as physical ailments.


Pluto in 12th this placing is a difficult one, especially if Pluto receives negative aspects from the Sun or Moon, or is in conjunction with the ascendant from this house. To delve and analyse will be second nature to the subject, so that her ­investigatory powers will be heightened in much the same way as they are when Pluto occupies the eighth house. Unfortunately this placing will give a more powerful tendency to turn these ­inclinations on the self. Sometimes, if there is a problem, it can be all too easy for the subject to mull it over so often that it becomes a kind of maze‑like vicious circle in her mind, from which it is hard to escape. They must also be warned against falling into the habit of taking any sort of drugs when under stress, since tranquillisers may be deemed attractive.

For further research try these links:-

Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almighty explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/rectification.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/rectification.html)
http://www.frankstar.com/solararc.htm (http://www.frankstar.com/solararc.htm)
http://thezodiac.com/arcs.htm (http://thezodiac.com/arcs.htm)
http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm (http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm )
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/solar_arc_directions.html (http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/solar_arc_directions.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression)

[astropsychologist]

Hi astrologer50,

Thanks a lot for your response. However it doesn't really answer my question.

The link I mentioned just moves planets to angles to figure out the time of birth, but if the angles move too then how can you tell what time that person was likely to be born at?

For example, lets say the birth of a sibling was a big event in someones life (at lets say age 8), then the link suggests that possibly Mercury was 8 degrees from the Asc (or one of the other angles) at birth. However if the angles also move, then couldn't Mercury have been 8 degrees after the Asc and it was the Asc that solar arced to Mercury and not the other way around? If that's the case, then the rectified Asc could be incorrect by 16 degrees!

Sorry if I'm not sure if im not explaining this very well, but this rectification method could be very confusing if the angles of the chart also move in solar arc. Am I making sense?:unsure:

[astrologer50]

For example, lets say the birth of a sibling was a big event in someones life (at lets say age 8), then the link suggests that possibly Mercury was 8 degrees from the Asc (or one of the other angles) at birth. However if the angles also move, then couldn't Mercury have been 8 degrees after the Asc and it was the Asc that solar arced to Mercury and not the other way around? If that's the case, then the rectified Asc could be incorrect by 16 degrees!
the birth of a sibling would not be described as Pluto, but yes mercury could. Point is you don't use any other Angles except Asc and MC/IC with solar arcs. Would rather not deal with abstract, just post the chart in question pls?

Point is there is massive differences between planets in 12th house and 1st house. You have to have a starting point. Mercury in first will talk a lot depending on the sign and aspects of course, but also in Aries/fire direct and to the point fashion cos it's in the house Aries ie; first.

Someone with mercury in 12th will be much more private person pisces/water house and was prob not allowed to express opinions as a child and encouraged. The difference here is SA Asc onto mercury in first house, could suggest a house move, becoming much more communicative, confident etc.

First you have to decide whether the planets are in which houses, do you have the Asc sign or not?

[astropsychologist]

There is no particular chart, I was just asking wondering about the rectification method in general.

Ok, I see what you mean, so you would have to look at which house the planet is likely to be in to decide whether or not the planet moved to the angle or the other way around. Thanks for that!