Progressed sun - what degree does the new sign kick in?

[LouiseLouise]

Hi,

I have a progressed sun question. When the sun is about to progress from one sign to another, does the native start exhibiting characteristics of that new sign at 0 degrees or earlier i.e. 28th & 29th of the old sign?

The reason why I ask is because I think I might be feeling Sagittarian traits. My progressed sun is at 29 degrees Scorpio and will be 0 degrees Sagittarius from 31st June 2010. I feel quite rebellious and although I've experienced great pessimism of late, I feel quite exuberant at the same time.

I've just started a new job that I know isn't really me and a part of me just feels like walking out with a big smile of my face which sounds a bit Sagittarian. I’m going to leave this job early next year providing I don't get the sack first. Do you reckon conditions will be more favourable for me next year?</SPAN>

I'm really looking forward to my sun going into Sag. I've recently had my Saturn Return which raised a lot of regrets and I felt like my life wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for your comments in advance,
Louise


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[starlink]

Hello Louise, I think you do feel it already earlier. Also in a Solar Return chart, you can already feel "the new year chart" around 3 month in advance, so I am not surprised that you already start feeling more Sagittarian.

[LouiseLouise]

Please find my chart below.

Regards

LouiseLouise

[astropsychologist]

Hi,
My Taurus sun progressed into Gemini a year and a half ago. I went back to college to study, which I suppose is a gemini realm (kind of) but apart from that, I really didn't feel like I acquired any Gemini traits! I was hoping I would and fully expected to, but it didn't happen which I find quite strange!

[Gwenyhfair]

I´m different here. My taurus sun was in gemini, during which period I was in a marriage-like relation to a gemini. I studied and definitely was gemini-like.

When the sun progressed into cancer we split up. Well, being hurt and crawling back is also typical cancer.:unsure: That´s how I was for a couple of years.

The more positive traits of cancer, like being a homie and feeling good with this did not come immediately as the sun changed sign. I could very well become a housewife now, something I`ve seen as totally unpossible all my adult life. Now my progressed sun is already 3 degrees in the new sign.

[Claire19]

Hi,

I have a progressed sun question. When the sun is about to progress from one sign to another, does the native start exhibiting characteristics of that new sign at 0 degrees or earlier i.e. 28th & 29th of the old sign?

The reason why I ask is because I think I might be feeling Sagittarian traits. My progressed sun is at 29 degrees Scorpio and will be 0 degrees Sagittarius from 31st June 2010. I feel quite rebellious and although I've experienced great pessimism of late, I feel quite exuberant at the same time.

I've just started a new job that I know isn't really me and a part of me just feels like walking out with a big smile of my face which sounds a bit Sagittarian. I’m going to leave this job early next year providing I don't get the sack first. Do you reckon conditions will be more favourable for me next year?</SPAN>

I'm really looking forward to my sun going into Sag. I've recently had my Saturn Return which raised a lot of regrets and I felt like my life wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for your comments in advance,
Louise


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With any progressed sun it has to hit planets connected to it for any effects. So if your Sun is going into Sagittarius but not connecting to any planets right now then you wont feel any effects until it does. These aspects have to be present in the natal chart also. When my progressed Sun went into Libra and hit Venus there I became more social and more attractive to the opposite sex and dressed more seductively and had marriage proposals too. I have Venus connected to the Sun natally and that has to be the backdrop.

[Gwenyhfair]

With any progressed sun it has to hit planets connected to it for any effects. So if your Sun is going into Sagittarius but not connecting to any planets right now then you wont feel any effects until it does. These aspects have to be present in the natal chart also.

I´m not skilled enough to explain this. But my sun was always in connection to same planets as natal when changing progressive sign since I´m born with sun on cusp. Venus aspect went from 30degrees to 60, and jupiter went from opposition to inconjunct. The saturn conjunction was relieved. Aspect to pluto moved into a square. But all these connections are also in natal chart. And to outer planets, and as the sun moves a degree in a year then, this will last. My case is a bit different since in my natal chart, all planets except mars & moon are on the cusps.



I´ve felt more at home in cancer for the past months, but sign change was about four years ago. Someone who knows more might know what evoked this. A transit?


Now I´m looking forward to progressive sun coming closer to a trine natal moon:happy:

[shaggy]

my progressed sun's @ 1 degree capricorn but i don't feel like a cappie.
it might be a good thing coz it's high time i get serious with my studies & career.
u might become a bit philosophical or undertake long distance journeys.
how about learning a foreign language or packing your books for university?

[Teb]

I progressed into libra and felt it very very strongly at 29*virgo. it was awful feeling desperate about being in a relationship.:love::sideways:

[Claire19]

I progressed into libra and felt it very very strongly at 29*virgo. it was awful feeling desperate about being in a relationship.:love::sideways:
So when your Sun progressed into Libra what planets was it hitting?
And was your Natal sun also in aspect to those planets??? Remember the natal chart always has to be triggered otherwise no effects.

[Claire19]

I´m not skilled enough to explain this. But my sun was always in connection to same planets as natal when changing progressive sign since I´m born with sun on cusp. Venus aspect went from 30degrees to 60, and jupiter went from opposition to inconjunct. The saturn conjunction was relieved. Aspect to pluto moved into a square. But all these connections are also in natal chart. And to outer planets, and as the sun moves a degree in a year then, this will last. My case is a bit different since in my natal chart, all planets except mars & moon are on the cusps.



I´ve felt more at home in cancer for the past months, but sign change was about four years ago. Someone who knows more might know what evoked this. A transit?


Now I´m looking forward to progressive sun coming closer to a trine natal moon:happy:
Always need to show your chart.

[Claire19]

Hi,

I have a progressed sun question. When the sun is about to progress from one sign to another, does the native start exhibiting characteristics of that new sign at 0 degrees or earlier i.e. 28th & 29th of the old sign?

The reason why I ask is because I think I might be feeling Sagittarian traits. My progressed sun is at 29 degrees Scorpio and will be 0 degrees Sagittarius from 31st June 2010. I feel quite rebellious and although I've experienced great pessimism of late, I feel quite exuberant at the same time.

I've just started a new job that I know isn't really me and a part of me just feels like walking out with a big smile of my face which sounds a bit Sagittarian. I’m going to leave this job early next year providing I don't get the sack first. Do you reckon conditions will be more favourable for me next year?</SPAN>

I'm really looking forward to my sun going into Sag. I've recently had my Saturn Return which raised a lot of regrets and I felt like my life wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for your comments in advance,
Louise


[Moderator note - thread moved here, as its poster shared his/her own astrological views.]
Saturn return was August 2008. It would have affected your income and material assets.

[Claire19]

Hi,

I have a progressed sun question. When the sun is about to progress from one sign to another, does the native start exhibiting characteristics of that new sign at 0 degrees or earlier i.e. 28th & 29th of the old sign?

The reason why I ask is because I think I might be feeling Sagittarian traits. My progressed sun is at 29 degrees Scorpio and will be 0 degrees Sagittarius from 31st June 2010. I feel quite rebellious and although I've experienced great pessimism of late, I feel quite exuberant at the same time.

I've just started a new job that I know isn't really me and a part of me just feels like walking out with a big smile of my face which sounds a bit Sagittarian. I’m going to leave this job early next year providing I don't get the sack first. Do you reckon conditions will be more favourable for me next year?</SPAN>

I'm really looking forward to my sun going into Sag. I've recently had my Saturn Return which raised a lot of regrets and I felt like my life wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for your comments in advance,
Louise


[Moderator note - thread moved here, as its poster shared his/her own astrological views.]
Saturn return was August 2008 at the last phase. Our Saturn return hits around 29 years of age and it is a maturing process and the reality bite.

It would have affected your income and material assets and also recreational activities, gambling and speculation or involvement with a lover or your children that caused conflict.

Your progressed Sun will be 1 Sagittarius next year and will be in sextile to Jupiter and trining into Moon from there on. It will affect your home life and there may be more exposure to hospitals, rehab centres or institutions of retreat and perhaps charitable organisations or church. You could begin some kind of higher studies and travel may also be in the air.:tongue:

[vanila]

1. I have my progressive Sun at 29'34 and Mars after on 28'14 Cancer.....
2. T Pluto opp my Sun
3. in my SR for 2009 Sun was in 8th house
4. progressive Moon in 8th house
5. progressive ASC Aquarius
6. progressive Sun square natal Moon and Pluto....

I remember last summer and in December last year I had some kind of crisis I wasn't me..I was another person that I didn't know........ it was shocking :eek:...I wanted to change almost everything in my life...I wanted to change my self....because I didn't like the person that I was........I was not open to people and didn't believed in my self.....Now I feel like I can do everything, I want to meet new people, to go to different places...to learn, to know more things about life and the world ...I'm not scared....the things are now more clear for me...

I guess this is the Pluto, 8th house, Sun transformations......I can't understand the promise in the natal....if someone can explain or give example for it.... will be great....

:)

[Teb]

So when your Sun progressed into Libra what planets was it hitting?
And was your Natal sun also in aspect to those planets??? Remember the natal chart always has to be triggered otherwise no effects.

I have uranus at 22*, Pluto at 19* and Venus at 13* all in Virgo.

[astrologer50]

1. I have my progressive Sun at 29'34 and Mars after on 28'14 Cancer.....
2. T Pluto opp my Sun
3. in my SR for 2009 Sun was in 8th house
4. progressive Moon in 8th house
5. progressive ASC Aquarius
6. progressive Sun square natal Moon and Pluto....

I remember last summer and in December last year I had some kind of crisis I wasn't me..I was another person that I didn't know........ it was shocking :eek:...I wanted to change almost everything in my life...I wanted to change my self....because I didn't like the person that I was........I was not open to people and didn't believed in my self.....Now I feel like I can do everything, I want to meet new people, to go to different places...to learn, to know more things about life and the world ...I'm not scared....the things are now more clear for me...

I guess this is the Pluto, 8th house, Sun transformations......I can't understand the promise in the natal....if someone can explain or give example for it.... will be great....

:)

What you describe is simply down to T Pluto opp sun. Not really progressed sun. All progressions, transits and solar arcs are ALL background influences until they make a mathamatical aspect to another planet or Angle in your chart. YOu make if fully consciously aware of astrology feel these to 'house cusps' on a milder sort of feel, but unless you understand astrology fully, you may not recognise this. Also remember certain house are more visible and felt.

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars espec are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

[astrologer50]

louiselouise,
I noticed T Saturn is squaring your natal moon at the moment, which is conj 12th house cusp. Have you wanted to withdraw emotionally have some more alone time? have you been feeling bit unloved and short of money?

about 7months ago when prog moon conj Asc, did you feel this? were you restless? did you perhaps want to move house at all?

[Sania]

I am still learning a lot of new things in astrology..but i have a same question as louiselouise i can't interpret "changing" the sign in Secondary Progressions chart.

My Sun is also moving to another sign (pieces) right now he is on 28.36 degree aquarius. I know we should look to natal chart and see connection between the charts and i see my natal Saturn is on 29 degrees Gemini wich means that the progressive Sun and natal Saturn will make exact the trine aspect. But how to interpret this? i already have a lot of trouble with "Making decisions" in my life but i feel a lot of things are going to change.. and that terrifies me -;(

[astrologer50]

I am still learning a lot of new things in astrology..but i have a same question as louiselouise i can't interpret "changing" the sign in Secondary Progressions chart.

My Sun is also moving to another sign (pieces) right now he is on 28.36 degree aquarius. I know we should look to natal chart and see connection between the charts and i see my natal Saturn is on 29 degrees Gemini wich means that the progressive Sun and natal Saturn will make exact the trine aspect. But how to interpret this? i already have a lot of trouble with "Making decisions" in my life but i feel a lot of things are going to change.. and that terrifies me -;(

Prog sun only moves 1' per year so it will be next year before exact trine aspect and because of this you may not even feel or recognise this energy due the 'trine' aspect. It's far more noticable conj, square and opposition aspects. So next year it will 'critical degrees' ie: 29' Aquarius and moving from natal earth Cappi to Aqu (more talkative, sociable freedom loving) will move to sensitive emotional pisces.

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html (http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67)
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php (http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm (http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm)

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

[Sania]

Prog sun only moves 1' per year so it will be next year before exact trine aspect and because of this you may not even feel or recognise this energy due the 'trine' aspect. It's far more noticable conj, square and opposition aspects. So next year it will 'critical degrees' ie: 29' Aquarius and moving from natal earth Cappi to Aqu (more talkative, sociable freedom loving) will move to sensitive emotional pisces.

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html (http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67)
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php (http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm (http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm)

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..


Thanks a lot astrologer50!!! I alredy look at some of this websites..

unfortunately 29 degrees is going to happen much sooner already this year in July ..so like you said this is a "critical" degree and that's why i'm really affraid to make any important decision. But i feel things are going to change..at my work, in my love life... and it just feels scary :(( or is it possible that i can feel some " pisces" influence already? In same time progressive Moon is going to conjuct progressive descedant..do you think that this could be also important or it has to make connection with natal chart?

thanks again!

[astrologer50]

Thanks a lot astrologer50!!! I alredy look at some of this websites..

unfortunately 29 degrees is going to happen much sooner already this year in July ..so like you said this is a "critical" degree and that's why i'm really affraid to make any important decision. But i feel things are going to change..at my work, in my love life... and it just feels scary :(( or is it possible that i can feel some " pisces" influence already? In same time progressive Moon is going to conjuct progressive descedant..do you think that this could be also important or it has to make connection with natal chart?

thanks again!
the only time when prog Asc, Desc, MC & IC are important is when it conjuncts a 'natal planet' therefore giving the planet an opportunity for more expressions....

So for last 8th months it's been cappi, have you felt more practical, grounded ambitious, hard working?? If you follow some of the links I gave you to read up more on how prog moon behaves in Cappi. I think prog moon conj prog desc to be minimal in influences. 2month before prog moon was square natal pluto in 5th - now could have produced some intense emotional issues of control within relationships. So what happened then?

What is more noticeable at the moment is T saturn conj N Pluto

"The main theme tends to be facing responsibility in the face of corruption. This is a time when you have to concentrate your interests more deeply and narrowly, most often because you are going through a financial burden or some other kind of shortage. This is also a time to get rid of any rules and regulations that do not adequately meet the demands that you are experiencing. Many of the habits that you have grown used to, simply do not apply anymore."
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/saturn-cj-pluto.html

[dr. farr]

Over the years I have come to believe that beginning effects show before the actual astrological event (or symbolic progressed state) finally occurs. In fact, I believe that failure to realize this fact-basing everything only on the precise time the astrological phenomena actually/finally occurs-is a leading cause of disappointments in astro-predictive work (including horary) My understanding is that we are dealing here with trends (rather than directly operating "mechanical"-like causes), and the earlier we can clearly perceive such trends, the better we are able to understand what's going on, and then do something about it (if its within our power to do so)

[Caprising]

I am still learning a lot of new things in astrology..but i have a same question as louiselouise i can't interpret "changing" the sign in Secondary Progressions chart.

My Sun is also moving to another sign (pieces) right now he is on 28.36 degree aquarius. I know we should look to natal chart and see connection between the charts and i see my natal Saturn is on 29 degrees Gemini wich means that the progressive Sun and natal Saturn will make exact the trine aspect. But how to interpret this? i already have a lot of trouble with "Making decisions" in my life but i feel a lot of things are going to change.. and that terrifies me -;(
My progressed ascendant is now on 29 degrees Aquarius, I have felt inner changes for 12 months now, my eyesight has changed in a good way , I'm getting more forgetful and now make a list of things to get when going to the supermarket , and keep forgetting to pay the bills..oh, and I drink more alcohol) . Real Piscean stuff :), I'm not sure why I'm feeling it so strongly, possibly because my natal mars is conjunct neptune, also when my sun changed from libra to scorp (following venus) I totally changed my public behaviour and reputation, from being an easy going libran into someone who wouldn't "take ****" any more. Having my natal sun in fall (libra) and on he M/C probably highlighted the change.

[Caprising]

Hi,

I have a progressed sun question. When the sun is about to progress from one sign to another, does the native start exhibiting characteristics of that new sign at 0 degrees or earlier i.e. 28th & 29th of the old sign?

The reason why I ask is because I think I might be feeling Sagittarian traits. My progressed sun is at 29 degrees Scorpio and will be 0 degrees Sagittarius from 31st June 2010. I feel quite rebellious and although I've experienced great pessimism of late, I feel quite exuberant at the same time. I've just started a new job that I know isn't really me and a part of me just feels like walking out with a big smile of my face which sounds a bit Sagittarian. I’m going to leave this job early next year providing I don't get the sack first. Do you reckon conditions will be more favourable for me next year?</SPAN>

I'm really looking forward to my sun going into Sag. I've recently had my Saturn Return which raised a lot of regrets and I felt like my life wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for your comments in advance,
Louise


[Moderator note - thread moved here, as its poster shared his/her own astrological views.]
Having Jupiter within 4 degrees of your natal ascendant (a Gauquelin point) would have to increase the effect of a planet progressing into sagg, you already have the jupiterian traits in your subconcious, just be careful driving, saggs can really enjoy engaging in reckless behaviour, and with your moon within a degree of 5'cancer, you might get a little too carried away, I have often found this degree involved in accidents, the sabian symbol for 5 degrees cancer is " an automobile wrecked by a train", while not wanting to alarm you, it seems to have the efect of making the driver complacent , the "it would never happen to me" attitude. I don't see any other indicators for an accident, so don't stress about it, just keep it in mind while driving!

[Sania]

I'am wondering how to interpret not only the progressed Sun changing the sign to sensitive pisces but in de same time transit of Neptune is going to conjunct this progressed Sun??

Am i going to lose my identity or..is it much worse??

[Caprising]

I'am wondering how to interpret not only the progressed Sun changing the sign to sensitive pisces but in de same time transit of Neptune is going to conjunct this progressed Sun??

Am i going to lose my identity or..is it much worse?? Relax Sania, you should be looking for the positive changes, not the negative! Channel the energies into a positive outcome, your indecision could very well be your natal north node in the seventh in sagg. With a Capricorn sun and mercury trine your moon in virgo you have plenty of common sense, maybe the influence of the pisces progression will enable you to explore how you and others feel on a deeper level.

[Sania]

thanks Caprising.. I'am worry to much you're right but that's also a part of me (moon in virgo) analyse and worry to much.

the last 12 years i'm working as failure analysis technician and this is pure technical/analytical job! 3 years ago i decide to go back to school and change de job direction. So, i start a part-time study Counselling and Psychotherapy. I did this because i had always the feeling that i had to do something with people, help them in some way. My Neptune (as lord of 11th house) is exact on my descedant.

Changing the job direction is maybe that big change when the progressive Sun change the sign only i dont know why am i so afraid of this.. i feel like i'm going to lose all control and my analytical mind.. and that makes me feel very insecure..about what am i going to be or WHO am i going to be?

But i schould look more positive to all this. I know you are right so, thank you very much!

[Caprising]

thanks Caprising.. I'am worry to much you're right but that's also a part of me (moon in virgo) analyse and worry to much.

the last 12 years i'm working as failure analysis technician and this is pure technical/analytical job! 3 years ago i decide to go back to school and change de job direction. So, i start a part-time study Counselling and Psychotherapy. I did this because i had always the feeling that i had to do something with people, help them in some way. My Neptune (as lord of 11th house) is exact on my descedant.

Changing the job direction is maybe that big change when the progressive Sun change the sign only i dont know why am i so afraid of this.. i feel like i'm going to lose all control and my analytical mind.. and that makes me feel very insecure..about what am i going to be or WHO am i going to be?

But i schould look more positive to all this. I know you are right so, thank you very much! Your capricorn sun will stay with you, the progression into the next sign adds to what you already have, so it's not like you go to bed a capricorn on thursday and wake up an Aquarian or piscean on friday. The progressions change the flavour of the natal planets expression, you will always retain your natal planets , so you will always have the responsible, reserved base that capricorn gives you.