View Full Version : Sidereal times and total confusion
08-08-2009, 09:06 AM
So I'm wondering if all the Horary charts I've attempted to do have ALL been totally wrong.I've just got some astrology software and everyone one of my planetary hours is wrong and I know it has to do with the sidereal time but try as I may none of it makes sense.I log in the time of the question and the time zone which is Australian Eastern standard time and the sidereal time is totally different so am I then supposed to put the sidereal time as the time of my question or what :crying: it still says the planetary hour is wrong..ggrrrrrr
So how do I get the correct planetary hour?
Please advice me someone with a very simple "how to" explanation before I totally give up.
08-08-2009, 11:11 AM
Don't worry about the Sidereal Time unless you are calculating by hand. Let the computer worry about it.
What you DO have to worry about is whether your Time Zone and Daylight Saving Times are accounted for correctly.
Planetary Hour calculations are based on the day of the week and what time Sunrise and Sunset happen for you locally. They divide up the daylight hours into twelve equal portions, then the night hours into 12 equal portions. Unless you are on one of the Equinoxes the day/night hours will be longer or shorter based on the season. For example, during Summer, the day hours will be longer than the night hours, and vice-versa during the Winter.
You always start the first hour of each day with the Platary hour of the Planetary day. For example, the first (unequal) hour after dawn on a Saturday is the Saturn Hour. Then you take the each of the planets in reverse Chaldean order and assign each subsequent hour sequentially. Thus on Saturday, the order of the Hours would be Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon - then just keep repeating them until dawn the next day. The next day will pick up (magically!) where the last one left off.
08-08-2009, 01:26 PM
If the planetary hour is not correct how can the chart be accurate? I've set the time zone to Australian Eastern standard time,which is correct.I log in the time I've clarified the question then I get the sidereal time.So do I redo the question and add the sidereal time instead of the actual time I thought of the question or not.OR do I set the time zone to GMT either way nothing seems to be working.How do I do a chart to get the correct planetary hour?
08-08-2009, 01:29 PM
Give us an example chart so we can see what you are talking about.
08-08-2009, 03:22 PM
It's not the chart,I think it's 'cause I'm using this astrology software as I wouldn't have known before whether it was the correct planetary hour or not.I could take a photo of what I'm viewing on my computer if it's not an infringement of copyright then put the photos into a word document(tomorrow)
Jeez does anyone else find this an issue or is it just me?
08-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Pay no attention to the Sidereal time shown on a computer generated chart - it will only confuse you. If you've input the correct local time and zone information, the program should calculate things correctly.
Give us the data, including the date, time and place, and we'll be able to help you better.
08-09-2009, 02:23 AM
ok I have posted two charts.Both of these charts were re entered into the computer software and both times it said "There is no relationship between the planetary hour & the Ascendant"
08-09-2009, 03:14 AM
I don't know....
Maybe it's not a computer calculation error...maybe what the program is trying to tell you is that the Asc of the question and the planetary hour are not related....
One of the ''laws'' of Horary technique in order for a chart to be valid for interpretation is that the ruler of the planetary hour must have an ''affinity'' with the chart's Ascendant!!
Check out with others of course since I am no computer expert...
08-09-2009, 03:23 AM
a helping article to clarify the above for you is this:
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