Mercury conjunct M.C.

[Caprising]

When I did my astrology course a few years back, my instructor got all excited about me having mercury conjunct the M.C. in my natal chart, telling me that I was a great orator, and would most likely be in the public eye in this lifetime. I knew that I was no great orator, in fact with a relatively unaspected mercury I have always had problems getting my message across verbally , so I knew at that moment that either I had the wrong birthtime (from mothers memory) or astrology didnt work and was a con. I had no choice but to send of to the hospital where I was born for my correct birthtime as written on my birth certificate. It turned out my birthtime was out by an hour, so no Mercury on the M.C. :(, anyway, I was in the public eye in 1992, being a political activist for a year or so, and figured that this should show in my chart if astrology had any easily seen credability, so I progressed my chart to this date, and lo and behold, progressed mercury was conjunct the progressed M.C. Unfortunately this only lasted for a year and a half or so, but it was so good to be able to just pour out what I wanted to say, in fact I could talk all day about the mercury in scorpio topic if anyone was interested in listening. Your probably asking yourself "where is he going with this?" o.k., I just progressed my chart to the distantish future, and guess what is going to retrograde back to my progressed M.C.? Mercury, so what does this mean? I'm not experienced enough to say for sure, but there are 2 possibilities that I can think of, and obviously free will plays a rather large part in the eventual outcome , one is that I could die, and have my name in the "deaths" collumn in the local paper, which sounds pretty awful until you see jupiter in aries on my progressed ascendant, which I translate as "happy release", because I have already decided that I dont want to live here forever, second possibility is getting published or being in the public eye again, which gives me nearly half a century to formulate a plan of what I want to show the public. What eventuates will most likely be my choice, I can party and not look after myself, and not achieve much, (but enjoy myself immensly :) ) and probably take the dying road, or I can make the right choices, look after myself and hopefully live long enough to get something half decent together to present to the public. Who knows, maybe I will do both in the same month! Progressions are the most interesting part of astrology i.m.h.o., what possible positives do you have approaching?

[astrologer50]

Can you post the natal, prog and transit chart pls? :innocent:

Hopefully mercury will let you communicate more as it did before, but we can't simply just look at one progression or indeed aspect in your chart without looking at the bigger picture to.

[Caprising]

I don't intend to post my charts at this point in time, sorry, but with my children becoming interested in astrology, it would be selfish to post my possible time of death, imagine how they would feel if they read that their father was possibly going to die on a chosen future date, it's not something that children should have to deal with. According to Nancy Anne Hastings, the most accurate way of translating secondary progressions is to see what happened in the clients life the last time the same or similar progressions and transits became exact. Using this method, I went back to when I was 11 years old, when my progressed Mercury came to a conjunction with my natal M/C.(in Libra) What could possibly happen to an 11 year old child with the mercury/M.C. conjunction you might ask, I mean just about all 11 year old kids do much the same things, school, friends, family things, well I can think of 4 things that I did that the majority of the others didnt do, firstly, I made a few waves and got sent to the principles office when protecting one of the weaker members of our class from our 2 school bullies, in fact I spent a lot of time trying to tame these 2 aggressive guys, sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didnt, in short, mercury in libra conjunct the M/C was very concerned with justice. Second thing was my marks were great, and the third thing that would be termed "mecurical was I delivered the newspapers to half of the town.The 4th was when my name came over the radio for winning a competition. Fast forward to progressed Mercury conjunct the progressed m/c.(in scorpio), As I mentioned in the earlier post, I spent this mecurical energy lobbying the government for job protection for our workers in the shearing industry, which unfortunately was unsuccessful (there were too "scorpionic "
hidden" political reasons for not limiting the flow of cheap imported labour into our country), but this does have the same theme as the previous first conjunction, protecting the weak from the strong (and cruel), trying to give the people a fair go. These 2 conjunctions should give you some idea of what my next attempt will be, the score so far: 2 failures to achieve what I was after, but then there was virtually no forward planning , not as much life experience, and no astrology to show the tools that were available to me. Presently having my Mercury progressed to Saggitarius I can now see the "bigger picture" surrounding these issues, and intend to use this to my advantage, and when my progressed merc enters Capricorn, the responsibilities involved will make themselves felt, and the groundwork will be laid. What will the eventual outcome be from this conjunction? I'm still learning astrology, I havn't worked that one out yet, I have to go back over the last 2 conjunctions to see if I can work out the indicators that will show the probable outcome, in the mean time, theres a lot to learn.

[AquariusT]

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[astrologer50]

I don't intend to post my charts at this point in time, sorry, but with my children becoming interested in astrology, it would be selfish to post my possible time of death, imagine how they would feel if they read that their father was possibly going to die on a chosen future date, it's not something that children should have to deal with
Excuse me where has all this come from? we were discussing Prog Mercury conj MC? I don't beleive you or anyone can 100%predict anything let alone a 'death signature' :innocent:

As you know MC is what we become known for, career, social standing etc. Obviously, talking, communications 'must' be more prominent, but I don't ever recall what sign or house we are talking about. Again you simply cannot look at just one progressed planet and not the rest...:crying:

[Caprising]

My next conjunction won't happen until i'm in my nineties, about the same age as my grandmother was when she died, I'm not going to live in this body forever, if I make it to that ripe old age I will be considered "lucky", and I'm so excited about having the opportunity to be heard again that I will take extra care to reach that age :)

[PD187540]

This is a very interesting aspect for sure. In my relocation chart for Los Angeles, I have Mercury in Virgo strictly conjunct the Midheaven by less than one degree. I'll be going for my Ph.D. there, so maybe this just gives me the intellectual reinforcement to succeed, as well as to teach.

I also have strong Jupiter-Uranus conjunction on my relocated Ascendant (Sagittarius). My long-shot interpretation is that I will make some sort of sudden discovery or invention that will be brought into the public eye. Ahhhh I can only hope hahaha :)

[Caprising]

This is a very interesting aspect for sure. In my relocation chart for Los Angeles, I have Mercury in Virgo strictly conjunct the Midheaven by less than one degree. I'll be going for my Ph.D. there, so maybe this just gives me the intellectual reinforcement to succeed, as well as to teach.

I also have strong Jupiter-Uranus conjunction on my relocated Ascendant (Sagittarius). My long-shot interpretation is that I will make some sort of sudden discovery or invention that will be brought into the public eye. Ahhhh I can only hope hahaha :)

Why not post your chart so that we can have a look at possible outcomes? This is really interesting !

[PD187540]

Sure thing...I've posted both my natal chart and relocation chart below. My natal chart is the one with Capricorn Rising (much like yourself!!!). :biggrin: Let me know any thoughts or initial impressions you may have.

[Caprising]

Sure thing...I've posted both my natal chart and relocation chart below. My natal chart is the one with Capricorn Rising (much like yourself!!!). :biggrin: Let me know any thoughts or initial impressions you may have.
My initial thoughts are that we share quite a few placements in our natals, cap rising, sun in libra, moon in aries(both void of course), and merc in virgo!........You must be a real cool dude :biggrin: ......on a more serious note, the more I look into your relocated chart, the more confusing this becomes! We can relocate our natal chart and use it to sygnify changes of planetary strength that we can take advantage of, or we can progress and relocate our chart to get a totally different chart to the natal relocated! So which do we use? Beats me, I was taught to use the progressed/relocated chart, so thats what I do, however that doesn't mean that you can't try the natal relocated chart on for size, it possibly means that any skills/ positives that you were born with will be easy to use if strongly placed in the relocated natal chart(like merc in virgo on the M/C)! I will start with your progressed chart for valley stream, new york. In the year 2017 your natal merc will progress to your natal midheaven at 3 deg. scorp, at the same time your progressed mid heaven will conjunct progressed Uranus in sagg, a double hit , natal and progressed M/C! Your natal uranus placement will be conjunct the m.c. a year or so earlier, so Uranus/M.C. is going to be roughly a 3 year conjunction assuming a 1 degree approaching orb. You may have to shift back to New York in the future! :happy: You chart speaks to me of some form of spiritual learning, with Pallas right on your ascendant this would be my first guess, but I would like to hear more from you about your future aspirations before I go jumping to any conclusions. When I have more time I will look at the same time period in Los Angeles, and see what it shows us, in the mean time tell us more about what you think this will signify. Cheers Cap.

[PD187540]

Hmmm you know, my gut instinct was telling me that you and I share certain planetary energies :). That can only be a good thing of course lol. At its worst, it can only be friendly competition.

So shifting back to New York, you say....and the year 2017...both of those could possibly figure into the equation later down the road, and I'll let you know exactly what my plans are right now:

I'm going for my Ph.D. in Molecular Pharmacology & Toxicology over in L.A., which will start up this Fall. So figure it takes 4 to 6 years to get that. At the LATEST, I should have that degree by 2016 (earliest 2014 or 2015). Now after that degree, it's possible that I may do a one- or two-year post-doc position. IF that's the case, I will be done with it by 2017 exactly, which is the time I'd be looking for a full-time official career. Maybe the whole "shifting back to New York" statement means that I'll take my full-time job in NYC at that time??? Just wondering here...

Let me know what you find out regarding my specific plans above, and whether you see any astrological correlations to that. :biggrin:

And just going by your findings above about my progressed Merc on the Scorpio Midheaven, and progressed Midheaven on Uranus in Sag., that right there tells me that I'm on the perfect career route of scientific research/University Professor. Makes tons of sense I believe

[PD187540]

ON A SIDE NOTE (feel free to answer this one separately from my post above):

I've always thought that L.A. felt different for me than NY. While living in NY, I've always felt restricted career-wise, and even personally. After I graduated college in 2006, I always ran into power struggles with authority figures, bosses, supervisors, etc. I went through 3 or 4 jobs from 2006 to 2008, then became unemployed in January 2009 (still am to this day...on benefits).

Astrologically speaking, for NY, these feelings and situations could be confirmed since I have both Saturn & Pluto on the Midheaven line....definitely 2 planets that I personally love in that position for my personality and career success, but not for where they're activated (NY). I also have Sun square Ascendant here in NY, which indicates not the best of locales for permanent living. [The Sun-Ascendant aspect is key for overall pleasantness in a certain location.] In L.A., my Sun sextiles my Ascendant, and when I vacationed there 3 times in the past, I noticed a sharp difference in how I felt based on that location.

This is why I'm so interested in why you said I may shift back to New York...because I just feel like that's not going to happen. The ONLY way it's going to happen again (and I told myself this many times) is if I'm put in a position of complete autonomy and authority, and if I'm making at least a 100-115K salary. If I can't have that, then NY is definitely out of the question and I'm sticking with the L.A. to San Diego area.


***Interesting piece of information: Pluto is conjunct my Ascendant within 5 degrees right now. It's about to transit my 1st House soon and will stay there for a good 23 years or so. My 1st House is HUGE...from 9 Cap to 20 Aquarius. With Pluto being there, I may feel or have so much power or people will start to look on me as an authority figure. Maybe I'll finally get to have that in the near future...that could possibly help in landing my requirements for a NY job, who knows. Saturn, meanwhile, is retrograding in my 8th House (so I'm getting my finances in order for my move), and it's going to be fully in my 9th House of higher education later this year (perfect time for Ph.D. studies). I'm watching these 2 planets like a hawk lol

[Caprising]

Hmmm you know, my gut instinct was telling me that you and I share certain planetary energies :). That can only be a good thing of course lol. At its worst, it can only be friendly competition.

So shifting back to New York, you say....and the year 2017...both of those could possibly figure into the equation later down the road, and I'll let you know exactly what my plans are right now:

I'm going for my Ph.D. in Molecular Pharmacology & Toxicology over in L.A., which will start up this Fall. So figure it takes 4 to 6 years to get that. At the LATEST, I should have that degree by 2016 (earliest 2014 or 2015). Now after that degree, it's possible that I may do a one- or two-year post-doc position. IF that's the case, I will be done with it by 2017 exactly, which is the time I'd be looking for a full-time official career. Maybe the whole "shifting back to New York" statement means that I'll take my full-time job in NYC at that time??? Just wondering here...

Let me know what you find out regarding my specific plans above, and whether you see any astrological correlations to that. :biggrin:

And just going by your findings above about my progressed Merc on the Scorpio Midheaven, and progressed Midheaven on Uranus in Sag., that right there tells me that I'm on the perfect career route of scientific research/University Professor. Makes tons of sense I believe

I think that we need to have a closer look at your natal mercury and how well or otherwise it works for you, or to be more precise how it worked for you as a child. Mercury is retrograde in your natal, and progressed direct again when you were roughly a month old, so was stationary for some time. This probably makes it's natal position a sensitive spot in your chart, and progressions and transits aspecting 16'23" virgo would possibly involve this natal symbolism. There are differing veiws on how merc retrograde works, how would you describe your childhood communication and thinking patterns? Also your merc is not well aspected, (like mine!), so we need to look at how you have developed your communications and thinking patterns over the years as it has progressed through Libra.

[byjove]

When I did my astrology course a few years back, my instructor got all excited about me having mercury conjunct the M.C. in my natal chart, telling me that I was a great orator, and would most likely be in the public eye in this lifetime. I knew that I was no great orator, in fact with a relatively unaspected mercury I have always had problems getting my message across verbally , so I knew at that moment that either I had the wrong birthtime (from mothers memory) or astrology didnt work and was a con...

Well take a look at my chart; I may be able to help. Also, if you feel it's relevant to the thread, would you mind mentioning more of what your former course instructor said? I'd be grateful to know. Some of what I have in my natal, and how transits affect it, may be relevant to some of your questions? If so, ask away.

[PD187540]

I think that we need to have a closer look at your natal mercury and how well or otherwise it works for you, or to be more precise how it worked for you as a child. Mercury is retrograde in your natal, and progressed direct again when you were roughly a month old, so was stationary for some time. This probably makes it's natal position a sensitive spot in your chart, and progressions and transits aspecting 16'23" virgo would possibly involve this natal symbolism. There are differing veiws on how merc retrograde works, how would you describe your childhood communication and thinking patterns? Also your merc is not well aspected, (like mine!), so we need to look at how you have developed your communications and thinking patterns over the years as it has progressed through Libra.


About my Mercury being supposedly retrograde. It actually isn't retrograde. The visual chart says it's retrograde, but when I went to the PDF print-out listing all the details, it listed my Mercury as SD (stationary direct), and through further confirmation, I looked up the Mercury tables and on Sept. 24th, 1983, Mercury was indeed stationary direct.

Keeping that in mind, my Mercury is unaspected by any planets, and it's located in Virgo very close to the critical degree (16 or 17, I believe). I've always felt that I have one heck of a unique mind, in its own class of brilliance (which is why no other planets are touching it). It's in an exalted position (being in Virgo). I'm very grateful to have a mind like this. The Sabian symbol for my Mercury placement is a volcano: highly eruptive, coming up with new ideas, etc.

As a child, I was shy, but my communication style was always forceful and direct...getting straight to the point. I've always been excellent in science, math, and other fact-based subjects. I never had any communication problems, which is what Mercury Rx would indicate. I'm also a progressive thinker...never dwelling on the past and always looking forward. As time went on, my shyness lifted, and I grew more comfortable with myself (but I think that's due to my Capricorn Rising).

[dr. farr]

PD187540
-what you have stated about your natal Mercury makes it (according to my understanding of astrology) an exceedingly potent natal influence; find out more about this:
1) find Mercury's natal longitude and see if a star is within 2 degrees of it; if so, add the indications of that star to Mercury
2) on the natal pdf printout, find the declination of Mercury: now, see if any other planet (or the ascendant or the POF or the mc or the Part of Spirit) is on the same side of the ecliptic as Mercury (ie, N or S) and, if so, if that declination is within about 1 degree of Mercury's declination: any such findings are called "parallels of declination" and are the same as a (strong) conjunction
3) still with the natal pdf printout, go to constellationsofwords.com, find the starlists, go to the starlist titled "arranged by ecliptic declination"; now, see if any star is listed for the same ecliptic declination (or within 1 degree of this) of natal Mercury; if so, this star would add additional testimony regarding the natal Mercury.

Remember (according to more ancient astrological precepts) that any planet at station AND TURNING DIRECT, is to be regarded as an extremely potent element in the chart.

[Caprising]

Well take a look at my chart; I may be able to help. Also, if you feel it's relevant to the thread, would you mind mentioning more of what your former course instructor said? I'd be grateful to know. Some of what I have in my natal, and how transits affect it, may be relevant to some of your questions? If so, ask away.

Your chart has merc in Pisces conjunct the M/C, which would certainly be expected to give a differing result compared to merc in virgo in the same position, however I'm a bit overloaded with running the household for the next few days, and have very little spare time, I wanted to go into P.D.s chart in a bit more depth before I tackle yours, but it will make a good comparison in my opinion. When I think of merc in virgo I automatically think "blunt straight to the point" , whereas merc in pisces is more of a "blending into the others thoughts" type of energy, and while maybe not having the ability to analyse as easily as the virgo position, they often have communicating skills that we virgo mercs lack so much! I have to run now, feel free to add your experiences !

[Caprising]

About my Mercury being supposedly retrograde. It actually isn't retrograde. The visual chart says it's retrograde, but when I went to the PDF print-out listing all the details, it listed my Mercury as SD (stationary direct), and through further confirmation, I looked up the Mercury tables and on Sept. 24th, 1983, Mercury was indeed stationary direct.

Keeping that in mind, my Mercury is unaspected by any planets, and it's located in Virgo very close to the critical degree (16 or 17, I believe). I've always felt that I have one heck of a unique mind, in its own class of brilliance (which is why no other planets are touching it). It's in an exalted position (being in Virgo). I'm very grateful to have a mind like this. The Sabian symbol for my Mercury placement is a volcano: highly eruptive, coming up with new ideas, etc.

As a child, I was shy, but my communication style was always forceful and direct...getting straight to the point. I've always been excellent in science, math, and other fact-based subjects. I never had any communication problems, which is what Mercury Rx would indicate. I'm also a progressive thinker...never dwelling on the past and always looking forward. As time went on, my shyness lifted, and I grew more comfortable with myself (but I think that's due to my Capricorn Rising).

P.D., it's one thing to be great at mathematics or problem solving, but it takes more than virgoan brilliance to climb your way up the corporate ladder, this is why we need to have a closer look at your merc , you do realise that there is a sesquiquadrate to your moon in Aries (1'36" approaching)? You have a few tough aspects in your natal chart that unless worked on will prevent you from getting as far as what you would like career wise. Have you looked into your north node placement as yet?

[PD187540]

P.D., it's one thing to be great at mathematics or problem solving, but it takes more than virgoan brilliance to climb your way up the corporate ladder, this is why we need to have a closer look at your merc , you do realise that there is a sesquiquadrate to your moon in Aries (1'36" approaching)? You have a few tough aspects in your natal chart that unless worked on will prevent you from getting as far as what you would like career wise. Have you looked into your north node placement as yet?


Yes, I've noticed that about my Mercury and Moon. Also, my Mercury is semisquare Saturn by 1 degree separating, and it's square my North Node applying 2 degrees. I'm not so sure exactly what those aspects could mean or to what degree they would affect me (particularly how much emphasis could be placed on the minor aspects for my Moon and Saturn) I have contemplated my destiny path for a number of years, and it was tormenting for me to decide on any one path. That's probably my biggest problem, since I do get bored easily. I think one of my main objectives in this existence is to focus on only ONE thing intensely and master it, because my emotional state always tells me to move onto something else. I can't keep doing that lol. Sure, I feel like a "jack of all trades," but I have to master one field expertly and make sure I don't become distracted.

My North Node is in Gemini in the 6th House (which Virgo naturally rules over). South Node is in Sagittarius with Neptune strictly conjunct it.

[PD187540]

PD187540
-what you have stated about your natal Mercury makes it (according to my understanding of astrology) an exceedingly potent natal influence; find out more about this:
1) find Mercury's natal longitude and see if a star is within 2 degrees of it; if so, add the indications of that star to Mercury
2) on the natal pdf printout, find the declination of Mercury: now, see if any other planet (or the ascendant or the POF or the mc or the Part of Spirit) is on the same side of the ecliptic as Mercury (ie, N or S) and, if so, if that declination is within about 1 degree of Mercury's declination: any such findings are called "parallels of declination" and are the same as a (strong) conjunction
3) still with the natal pdf printout, go to constellationsofwords.com, find the starlists, go to the starlist titled "arranged by ecliptic declination"; now, see if any star is listed for the same ecliptic declination (or within 1 degree of this) of natal Mercury; if so, this star would add additional testimony regarding the natal Mercury.

Remember (according to more ancient astrological precepts) that any planet at station AND TURNING DIRECT, is to be regarded as an extremely potent element in the chart.

OK...my Mercury's natal longitude is 16 deg. 23 secs Virgo. No fixed stars are within 2 degrees of my Mercury placement. HOWEVER, one fixed star of the Virgo constellation is within 2 degrees of my Sun: Zaniah. According to the website, it states: "With Sun: Educational and studious interests, popular, social success, much pleasure, favorable for marriage." Syrma, another star in Virgo, is conjunct my Midheaven and Saturn: "Said to be prominent in the charts of Mohammed and Moses, the Arabs considered this star as the most fortunate of their lunar stations. Iota Virgo, Syrma, or Surma by its Greek titles, Al Ghafar is the name in in Arabic. Al Ghafar means to cover, to protect and to suppress. The significance of this star and title lies firstly in the heavy personal responsibility which is implicit in the occult questing and acquisition of spiritual power."

My Mercury declination is 4 deg 59 secs North. And yes, Mercury has almost the same declination as my natal Pluto. Pluto is at a 4 deg 30 second North declination. So you're saying that I actually have a Mercury-Pluto conjunction? I could totally see that, since the depths of my mind seem to know no bounds. It really penetrates deeply into everything.

With regard to the fixed stars being close to my Mercury declination, there are a few. Syrma, as mentioned above, is one of them. Eridanus (http://constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Eridanus.html) gives a love of knowledge and science, much travel and many changes, a position of authority, but danger of accidents especially at sea and of drowning. Other fixed stars around this one mention poisoning and medicines. It's scarily frightening how my Ph.D. area will be in Molecular Pharmacology & Toxicology (drugs and poisons). It's like this stuff is meant to be. Well, at least I know that I'm on the right path, so let's just go with the fates!!

[Claire19]

Excuse me where has all this come from? we were discussing Prog Mercury conj MC? I don't beleive you or anyone can 100%predict anything let alone a 'death signature' :innocent:

As you know MC is what we become known for, career, social standing etc. Obviously, talking, communications 'must' be more prominent, but I don't ever recall what sign or house we are talking about. Again you simply cannot look at just one progressed planet and not the rest...:crying:
Yes I agree. What has death to do with it??? It is unethical to discuss death in my opinion and there are so many scenarios for that anyway.

If you dont post a chart no one can help you. Anonymised if you wish. We can never take an aspect out of context with the rest of the chart. Mercury conjunct MC means many things.......

Cheers:happy:

[Claire19]

Yes, I've noticed that about my Mercury and Moon. Also, my Mercury is semisquare Saturn by 1 degree separating, and it's square my North Node applying 2 degrees. I'm not so sure exactly what those aspects could mean or to what degree they would affect me (particularly how much emphasis could be placed on the minor aspects for my Moon and Saturn) I have contemplated my destiny path for a number of years, and it was tormenting for me to decide on any one path. That's probably my biggest problem, since I do get bored easily. I think one of my main objectives in this existence is to focus on only ONE thing intensely and master it, because my emotional state always tells me to move onto something else. I can't keep doing that lol. Sure, I feel like a "jack of all trades," but I have to master one field expertly and make sure I don't become distracted.

My North Node is in Gemini in the 6th House (which Virgo naturally rules over). South Node is in Sagittarius with Neptune strictly conjunct it.
Some dont even use a square for the nodes. Just the tight conjunction.
I dont use minor aspects either unless there are few major ones and that rarely happens. North Node in Gemini in the 6th can indicate two jobs actually. A lot of movement and communication, study involved. CHanging jobs a lot and perhaps a lot of attention to detail, paperwork etc. Print media, phones, faxes, internet, and as you say Gemini likes newness and mental stimulation so boredom can be a problem. However posting a chart is the way to go.

[Caprising]

ON A SIDE NOTE (feel free to answer this one separately from my post above):

I've always thought that L.A. felt different for me than NY. While living in NY, I've always felt restricted career-wise, and even personally. After I graduated college in 2006, I always ran into power struggles with authority figures, bosses, supervisors, etc. I went through 3 or 4 jobs from 2006 to 2008, then became unemployed in January 2009 (still am to this day...on benefits).





***Interesting piece of information: Pluto is conjunct my Ascendant within 5 degrees right now. It's about to transit my 1st House soon and will stay there for a good 23 years or so.

This IS an interesting piece of information, transiting pluto should allow you to re-invent your veiw of and projection toward others!
A good comparison to your merc in virgo on the M/C. is "Byjove's" chart, with merc in pisces on the M.C., Byjove will instinctively know how to win the support of superiors in order to get ahead, which is another way of doing the same thing, that is climbing upwards in the workplace!
This is what concerns me P.D., the sesquiquadrate from natal mercury to your moon in Aries is possibly giving you a difficult to control emotional reaction to your supervisors request (wether they be "acceptable" requests or otherwise!) Naturally the moon /pluto/saturn opposition will be pulled straight into the emotional response, leaving you with either no job, or just as bad, disapproval from the very people whom you will need support from in order to climb the corporate ladder!

[Caprising]

Yes I agree. What has death to do with it??? It is unethical to discuss death in my opinion and there are so many scenarios for that anyway.

If you dont post a chart no one can help you. Anonymised if you wish. We can never take an aspect out of context with the rest of the chart. Mercury conjunct MC means many things.......

Cheers:happy:

Go back to the start of the thread and read the whole lot, in short I said that mercury conjunct my M/C. in my later years (90s) could indicate my name being in the deaths collumn in the newspaper, note the word "could", I'm probably not going to live to 110, if I make it to 90 then I will have had a long life, I don't see how it's unethical to discuss death! especially my own!

[PD187540]

This IS an interesting piece of information, transiting pluto should allow you to re-invent your veiw of and projection toward others!
A good comparison to your merc in virgo on the M/C. is "Byjove's" chart, with merc in pisces on the M.C., Byjove will instinctively know how to win the support of superiors in order to get ahead, which is another way of doing the same thing, that is climbing upwards in the workplace!
This is what concerns me P.D., the sesquiquadrate from natal mercury to your moon in Aries is possibly giving you a difficult to control emotional reaction to your supervisors request (wether they be "acceptable" requests or otherwise!) Naturally the moon /pluto/saturn opposition will be pulled straight into the emotional response, leaving you with either no job, or just as bad, disapproval from the very people whom you will need support from in order to climb the corporate ladder!

Absolutely Ms. Cap! That's how things tend to develop with me! It seems like I have no control over reacting like that though...it comes straight from the gut, and it just bypasses all thought processes. Basically, I just have to learn to shut up and kiss butt, I think...but oh boy, I'm not the type to do that haha.

[PD187540]

Some dont even use a square for the nodes. Just the tight conjunction.
I dont use minor aspects either unless there are few major ones and that rarely happens. North Node in Gemini in the 6th can indicate two jobs actually. A lot of movement and communication, study involved. CHanging jobs a lot and perhaps a lot of attention to detail, paperwork etc. Print media, phones, faxes, internet, and as you say Gemini likes newness and mental stimulation so boredom can be a problem. However posting a chart is the way to go.


Hmmm, you know something Claire, what you said above could come into the picture later on in my near future. After I get my Ph.D., I'm thinking of doing a post-doc appointment, which is like anywhere from a one- to three-year research fellowship (sort of like a "training internship" or residency that medical doctors do). Supposedly, there's no limit as to how many of those you can do after graduate school. They're paid, of course (about $50 to $60,000 per year or something like that). Imagine if I keep doing those short assignments around the country for the rest of my life?? Hahaha that would be interesting....do a 3-year post-doc in Richmond, then a 2-year in Seattle, etc.

I'm literally terrified as to how things will unfold career-wise after I finish my degree. I have no idea what could happen, where I'll go, etc. Oh, and my 2 charts (natal and relocated for Los Angeles) are attached in a previous comment in this thread.

[Claire19]

My next conjunction won't happen until i'm in my nineties, about the same age as my grandmother was when she died, I'm not going to live in this body forever, if I make it to that ripe old age I will be considered "lucky", and I'm so excited about having the opportunity to be heard again that I will take extra care to reach that age :)
Really??? I wouldnt want to live to such a ripe old age. It is no fun. My father is 92 and often very lonely and so deaf that communication is virtually impossible.. My mother passed at 89 and I fear I am in for longevity too.
It is often worse for those around and I have experienced it with my parents.

[Claire19]

Hmmm, you know something Claire, what you said above could come into the picture later on in my near future. After I get my Ph.D., I'm thinking of doing a post-doc appointment, which is like anywhere from a one- to three-year research fellowship (sort of like a "training internship" or residency that medical doctors do). Supposedly, there's no limit as to how many of those you can do after graduate school. They're paid, of course (about $50 to $60,000 per year or something like that). Imagine if I keep doing those short assignments around the country for the rest of my life?? Hahaha that would be interesting....do a 3-year post-doc in Richmond, then a 2-year in Seattle, etc.

I'm literally terrified as to how things will unfold career-wise after I finish my degree. I have no idea what could happen, where I'll go, etc. Oh, and my 2 charts (natal and relocated for Los Angeles) are attached in a previous comment in this thread.
What you describe sounds ideal. Continual study and different shorter assignments would be perfect. We all have to live with uncertainty and you know what, I prefer it that way.\:happy:

[Caprising]

Absolutely Ms. Cap! That's how things tend to develop with me! It seems like I have no control over reacting like that though...it comes straight from the gut, and it just bypasses all thought processes. Basically, I just have to learn to shut up and kiss butt, I think...but oh boy, I'm not the type to do that haha.

Actually it's MR Cap...:), and you don't have to kiss butt, you have to learn to co-operate with the "team". I think that having mars and venus in leo as part of a grand trine involving the moon and neptune is also why you want to do the supervising rather than be supervised, but the reality is that we have to start at the bottom (unless your father/uncle etc. is head of the company!). I do see some major personal changes heading your way, namely progressed sun conjuncting your natal pluto in Libra, (power issues involving relating)next year, and a year later progressed I.C. conjunct progressed Chiron in gemini in opposition to the M/C! Do you have a "plan B" if you don't get accepted into your course? While not wanting to put a damper on your enthusiasm, we do need to consider that things may not go our way, so should be prepared for delays/unexpected suprises!

[byjove]

Your chart has merc in Pisces conjunct the M/C, which would certainly be expected to give a differing result compared to merc in virgo in the same position, however I'm a bit overloaded with running the household for the next few days, and have very little spare time, I wanted to go into P.D.s chart in a bit more depth before I tackle yours, but it will make a good comparison in my opinion. When I think of merc in virgo I automatically think "blunt straight to the point" , whereas merc in pisces is more of a "blending into the others thoughts" type of energy, and while maybe not having the ability to analyse as easily as the virgo position, they often have communicating skills that we virgo mercs lack so much! I have to run now, feel free to add your experiences !

Hi there, I didn't catch up with these replies fast enough. So your hospital-given time is an hour off, hence you don't have it natally but important prognostic events brought your attention to Mercury on the MC?

Despite having Mercury on the Pisces MC, I'm far more known for my Virgo traits. I've Cancer Rising, Moon in 3rd of Virgo (double injection of Mercury), also Mars in the 11th of Gemini (double air, also Mercury since it's the 3rd, and disposited by Mercury). Also, while somehow the Pisces traits leak out, most astrologers have said to me I'm more likely to live in an intellectual world-cut off from feeling with Merc. on the MC. Also, in my transit chart attached, you'll see I've Uranus transiting my Merc. on MC now. And I have Moon square Saturn, withholding that emotion upon my say-so.

Good Mercury in Pisces traits:
-Emotional and humane connection to the world, (Merc. trine AC helps)
-People say I'm an excellent dancer (motion in music)
-Wild imagination now at my command (not in my command when younger)

Bad:
-Accounting abilities are a threat to any company lol (calculation in water)
-Imagination was impossible to tame when younger, disruption ability to learn
-Often only seeing the best in people, including less sensitive to hidden attacks (Though I used my Merc. square Uranus to fight back)
-Not terrible, but my handwriting looks like a child's scribble, my Merc. in Pisces dad has the same...lol

I also have a tight Merc. / Uranus square. I like to think that this corrects some of the slower Pisces thinking, and dangerous elements. Most astrologers on here have said that my Mercury is more than capable of soothing the tricky Moon aspects, like a cooling salve.

I won poetry competitions when very young, and debated all through school and college. I like speeches...lol. Though with Mercury trine AC...people having come to know me...become aware of my ability to lobby points...there have been funny comments over the years...an ability to sell sand to the Arabs...but as I've gotten older, not that I would ever have swindled people, no no, but I don't care for 'sales', and I don't use persuasion without due consideration...why should I convince people of what I think? I don't like coercion, I like honesty.

If there's any questions about taming Merc. on MC transits etc. then fire away.

[PD187540]

What you describe sounds ideal. Continual study and different shorter assignments would be perfect. We all have to live with uncertainty and you know what, I prefer it that way.\:happy:

Yep, I agree. In a way, though, doesn't that also indicate a Sagittarian influence with the constant traveling involved? And I always thought you were supposed to move away from your South Node....hmmmm. Although in the above example I gave, it seems to be the best balance of both Sagittarius AND Gemini. Maybe that's the whole point right there? To be honest, I probably would enjoy doing that, although I wouldn't have a permanent job in any one place for a considerable length of time.

[PD187540]

Actually it's MR Cap...:), and you don't have to kiss butt, you have to learn to co-operate with the "team". I think that having mars and venus in leo as part of a grand trine involving the moon and neptune is also why you want to do the supervising rather than be supervised, but the reality is that we have to start at the bottom (unless your father/uncle etc. is head of the company!). I do see some major personal changes heading your way, namely progressed sun conjuncting your natal pluto in Libra, (power issues involving relating)next year, and a year later progressed I.C. conjunct progressed Chiron in gemini in opposition to the M/C! Do you have a "plan B" if you don't get accepted into your course? While not wanting to put a damper on your enthusiasm, we do need to consider that things may not go our way, so should be prepared for delays/unexpected suprises!

Firstly, I do apologize for assuming you were a woman, Mr. Cap haha. I'm sorry for that. Do you have any idea as to what those personal changes might be??? The only thing I could foresee is a career change (if I get picked off the street on Hollywood Blvd. for acting or something hahaha...*yeah right*).

But as for a "plan B," I really don't have one, since I already got officially accepted into my program with full scholarship and everything. What you suggest above is that something completely out of the blue may come my way, and I'll be forced into a huge decision-making process once again. Is that what you're seeing, and if so, any idea as to what that could be? I'd imagine it's career-related

[Caprising]

Firstly, I do apologize for assuming you were a woman, Mr. Cap haha. I'm sorry for that. Do you have any idea as to what those personal changes might be??? The only thing I could foresee is a career change (if I get picked off the street on Hollywood Blvd. for acting or something hahaha...*yeah right*).

But as for a "plan B," I really don't have one, since I already got officially accepted into my program with full scholarship and everything. What you suggest above is that something completely out of the blue may come my way, and I'll be forced into a huge decision-making process once again. Is that what you're seeing, and if so, any idea as to what that could be? I'd imagine it's career-related

Basically I'm concerned that you want to start at "the top", and will trip yourself up with a surge of emotion when this doesn't happen!....I have challenging aspects to my moon, and I know that if I'm having a bad day then anyone who I perceive to be "having a go at me" might cop a mouthful back :), however I'm an older guy now, so have learnt to hide what I would really like to say to those types of people most of the time, and have stopped "job hopping" (south node in 12th, neptune in 10th)(not that theres anything wrong with job hopping, it just makes it more difficult to get finance when you eventually want to buy a house for yourself) . I originally started this thread with the idea of coercing people to look for some good points in their progressed chart, instead of the common "I'm afraid of my scary progressions/transits coming to destroy me" posts that I often see. I think that it would be frustrating for you to find that you have relocated merc at the m/c, while not necassarily getting the same positive effects that I did, therefore I feel obliged to point out any hidden traps with your natal relocated placement. I'm suggesting that you concerntrate on using your progressed relocated chart, and reading up on your progressed merc in libra, currently in opposition to moon in aries, progressed mars and venus in virgo and neptune in your prog. 1st house. These planetary positions will enable you to keep your internship, and hopefully win you support from your teachers, all you have to do is practice using them and eventually it will become second nature to you. Obviously you can take the time to think before speaking ,your responses on this thread have been testimony to that!......Oh, and you should be aware that you are coming into your first "moon return" so now is the time to take a close look at your emotional style, because it is a very powerful force for the next 8 months or so, then will mellow somewhat!

[Caprising]

[Hi there, I didn't catch up with these replies fast enough. So your hospital-given time is an hour off, hence you don't have it natally but important prognostic events brought your attention to Mercury on the MC?]


Yes, I knew from my teachers discription that I didn't have merc on the M/C, (either that or astrology didn't work). Not having merc on the M/C means that I havn't spent a lot of time studying it, but your comment on "selling sand to the arabs" is how I basically perceive it to work.



[Good Mercury in Pisces traits:
-Emotional and humane connection to the world, (Merc. trine AC helps)]

Merc in virgo traits are basically opposite to this in my opinion!

[-People say I'm an excellent dancer (motion in music)]

When I dance I look like a thunderbird on speed :)

[-Wild imagination now at my command (not in my command when younger)]

I had this too with pisces on 3rd house cup, and mars conjunct neptune




Bad:
-Accounting abilities are a threat to any company lol (calculation in water)
-Imagination was impossible to tame when younger, disruption ability to learn


[-Not terrible, but my handwriting looks like a child's scribble, my Merc. in Pisces dad has the same...lol]

My handwriting is the same, but hey I'm left handed!

[I also have a tight Merc. / Uranus square. I like to think that this corrects some of the slower Pisces thinking, and dangerous elements. Most astrologers on here have said that my Mercury is more than capable of soothing the tricky Moon aspects, like a cooling salve. ]

[I won poetry competitions when very young, and debated all through school and college. I like speeches...lol. Though with Mercury trine AC...people having come to know me...become aware of my ability to lobby points...there have been funny comments over the years...an ability to sell sand to the Arabs...but as I've gotten older, not that I would ever have swindled people, no no, but I don't care for 'sales', and I don't use persuasion without due consideration...why should I convince people of what I think? I don't like coercion, I like honesty.]

[If there's any questions about taming Merc. on MC transits etc. then fire away.]

Thanks for the input byjove, but I'm more in need of firing up my natal merc, not taming it :)

[PD187540]

Basically I'm concerned that you want to start at "the top", and will trip yourself up with a surge of emotion when this doesn't happen!....I have challenging aspects to my moon, and I know that if I'm having a bad day then anyone who I perceive to be "having a go at me" might cop a mouthful back :), however I'm an older guy now, so have learnt to hide what I would really like to say to those types of people most of the time, and have stopped "job hopping" (south node in 12th, neptune in 10th)(not that theres anything wrong with job hopping, it just makes it more difficult to get finance when you eventually want to buy a house for yourself) . I originally started this thread with the idea of coercing people to look for some good points in their progressed chart, instead of the common "I'm afraid of my scary progressions/transits coming to destroy me" posts that I often see. I think that it would be frustrating for you to find that you have relocated merc at the m/c, while not necassarily getting the same positive effects that I did, therefore I feel obliged to point out any hidden traps with your natal relocated placement. I'm suggesting that you concerntrate on using your progressed relocated chart, and reading up on your progressed merc in libra, currently in opposition to moon in aries, progressed mars and venus in virgo and neptune in your prog. 1st house. These planetary positions will enable you to keep your internship, and hopefully win you support from your teachers, all you have to do is practice using them and eventually it will become second nature to you. Obviously you can take the time to think before speaking ,your responses on this thread have been testimony to that!......Oh, and you should be aware that you are coming into your first "moon return" so now is the time to take a close look at your emotional style, because it is a very powerful force for the next 8 months or so, then will mellow somewhat!

Thanks, Mr. Cap. I'll definitely keep that in mind :biggrin:. You're right about me always wanting to start out at the top. One of my underlying motivations behind getting my doctoral degree is that after I graduate, I hope to start out at the top (being that it is the highest degree one could attain). I could always shoot for that, and I do expect it, but at the same time, I'm going to consider all possibilities of what could happen.

[PD187540]

Another new insight I just had: I wouldn't be a bit surprised if I somehow make it into politics at some point in my life. I had a short-lived fascination with becoming a Congressman when I was around 11/12 years old. I recently read an article that urged more science professors to go into politics, since their inquisitive, analytical minds are needed for legislation purposes (among other things). That article renewed my interest in politics once again.

If there's a way for me to get into that field after obtaining my Ph.D., I wouldn't hesitate to give it a shot.

[Caprising]

Another new insight I just had: I wouldn't be a bit surprised if I somehow make it into politics at some point in my life. I had a short-lived fascination with becoming a Congressman when I was around 11/12 years old. I recently read an article that urged more science professors to go into politics, since their inquisitive, analytical minds are needed for legislation purposes (among other things). That article renewed my interest in politics once again.

If there's a way for me to get into that field after obtaining my Ph.D., I wouldn't hesitate to give it a shot.

You certainly do have some ambition to achieve P.D., by the time we pass through our Saturn return we usually have some idea of what we are capable of, and also if we want to set the world on fire! You should know just how far you can and want to go by your early thirties, we certainly could use some politicians who are aware of their responsibilities to the people whom they represent!

[PD187540]

You certainly do have some ambition to achieve P.D., by the time we pass through our Saturn return we usually have some idea of what we are capable of, and also if we want to set the world on fire! You should know just how far you can and want to go by your early thirties, we certainly could use some politicians who are aware of their responsibilities to the people whom they represent!

I agree Cap. I'm predicting that my Saturn Return will be an easy one, I believe...especially since I'm a Rising Cap with Saturn prominent. I feel as if I can deal with Saturnian issues rather easily (or I should say, more easily than most people). If I feel ambitious now (which has been my general nature overall), I can only imagine what this Saturn Return will provide me with hahaha (or MUhahahah, take your pick). That SR should coincide with the time of finalizing my higher education, so something may pick up suddenly at that time. I really can't say what, but that's the beauty of not knowing and waiting until the time comes!

[Caprising]

I agree Cap. I'm predicting that my Saturn Return will be an easy one, I believe...especially since I'm a Rising Cap with Saturn prominent. I feel as if I can deal with Saturnian issues rather easily (or I should say, more easily than most people). If I feel ambitious now (which has been my general nature overall), I can only imagine what this Saturn Return will provide me with hahaha (or MUhahahah, take your pick). That SR should coincide with the time of finalizing my higher education, so something may pick up suddenly at that time. I really can't say what, but that's the beauty of not knowing and waiting until the time comes!


You make saturn returns sound easy ! Mine was centred around working 65 hours a week doing nightshift, while the day was taken up by being a full time carer for my children and my wife (who literally got hit by a truck!) A few years of 5 hours sleep per evening and too many skipped meals (i didnt have time to eat!) eventually caught up with me, I had to be more realistic about the real cost of achievment in the workplace and the effects that it had on my health and home/family life!

[PD187540]

You make saturn returns sound easy ! Mine was centred around working 65 hours a week doing nightshift, while the day was taken up by being a full time carer for my children and my wife (who literally got hit by a truck!) A few years of 5 hours sleep per evening and too many skipped meals (i didnt have time to eat!) eventually caught up with me, I had to be more realistic about the real cost of achievment in the workplace and the effects that it had on my health and home/family life!

Now that sounds rough. I did the night shift 4 years ago, but not that many hours a week, and I don't have a wife/kids to care for (thank god for that lol). But all that really occurred under your Saturn Return?

[Caprising]

Now that sounds rough. I did the night shift 4 years ago, but not that many hours a week, and I don't have a wife/kids to care for (thank god for that lol). But all that really occurred under your Saturn Return?

I make it sound pretty harsh don't I! I tend to blame everything bad on saturn lol, It all started with my saturn being retrograde in my birthchart on my 1st/2nd house cusp, it went stationary from 81 to 84, then went direct, heres a list of saturns hits in my natal and prog charts:
1990, trans saturn on natal asc.
1992: trans saturn conjunct natal and prog saturn.
1993: trans saturn conjunct natal/progressed saturn and progressed ascendant.
1998 prog. saturn conjunct natal saturn (to the minute)

As you can see from the above list saturn has had a big influence on my life/self. Most people wont get this many connections in a decade, and wont have the trying aspects that my saturn has. A lot of good came out of these years, with new qualifycations in 2 differing areas, and quite a few acheivements, having said that I wouldn't want to do it again though :)

[PD187540]

I make it sound pretty harsh don't I! I tend to blame everything bad on saturn lol, It all started with my saturn being retrograde in my birthchart on my 1st/2nd house cusp, it went stationary from 81 to 84, then went direct, heres a list of saturns hits in my natal and prog charts:
1990, trans saturn on natal asc.
1992: trans saturn conjunct natal and prog saturn.
1993: trans saturn conjunct natal/progressed saturn and progressed ascendant.
1998 prog. saturn conjunct natal saturn (to the minute)

As you can see from the above list saturn has had a big influence on my life/self. Most people wont get this many connections in a decade, and wont have the trying aspects that my saturn has. A lot of good came out of these years, with new qualifycations in 2 differing areas, and quite a few acheivements, having said that I wouldn't want to do it again though :)

Even in your above situations, how do you consider yourself to have handled it in comparison to other people? You, like me, are a Rising Cap, so I'd figure that we probably know and understand Saturn better than other rising signs do. If I had to pay homage and respect to 2 planets, it would be Saturn and Pluto haha.

I'm keeping a close eye on Saturn...I believe it's still in retrograde currently, and it's backtracking through my 8th House. Right now, I'm getting my finances in order for what's to come next month (my major move to the other side of the U.S.A.). By later in the year, it officially enters my 9th House (which probably coincides with me starting up my Ph.D. degree, so the timing seems perfect for this). When Saturn reaches Scorpio (and coincidentally with my Saturn Return), I'll be heavily involved in the research phase of my degree...makes sense, I think.

Speaking of retrogrades, I wasn't born with any major planets retrograde in my chart. Mercury is Stationary Direct, and all the others are direct. Is that a good thing?

[Caprising]

Even in your above situations, how do you consider yourself to have handled it in comparison to other people? You, like me, are a Rising Cap, so I'd figure that we probably know and understand Saturn better than other rising signs do. If I had to pay homage and respect to 2 planets, it would be Saturn and Pluto haha.

I'm keeping a close eye on Saturn...I believe it's still in retrograde currently, and it's backtracking through my 8th House. Right now, I'm getting my finances in order for what's to come next month (my major move to the other side of the U.S.A.). By later in the year, it officially enters my 9th House (which probably coincides with me starting up my Ph.D. degree, so the timing seems perfect for this). When Saturn reaches Scorpio (and coincidentally with my Saturn Return), I'll be heavily involved in the research phase of my degree...makes sense, I think.

Speaking of retrogrades, I wasn't born with any major planets retrograde in my chart. Mercury is Stationary Direct, and all the others are direct. Is that a good thing?


I was told that I handled everything well, but what I show on the outside is different to what I feel on the inside, but thats moon in Aries for you! There were various comments like "your so strong!" when my then wife got hit by the truck, and when I was doing the big hours and not eating properly one guy at work said "you look like a skeleton!" LOL, he also said that I was "manic" because of my constant activity, but thats what the job demanded, and I wasn't about to let a good oppertunity go to waste by not being the best that I could be! I suppose that I was trying myself out to see what I was capable of, because when you have a strong saturnian influence (cap ascendant/cancer descendant/ chiron in pisces on 3rd house cusp)it's all too easy to only hear the negative comments that parents/critics throw at you!

Regarding retrogrades, I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not, probably yes, but it's similar to the square vs trine questions that often get asked, people with all natal trines don't really cope as easily when the going gets tough, because they never had to overcome the challenges of natal squares, I suppose that it's a matter of doing the best with what you have, and looking at approaching progressions and transits to work out the best direction for the energy involved. If one thing has become clear in this thread it would be that Mercury in Pisces although considered to be in detriment by most astrological text books can be strongly placed (e.g. conjunct M/C. or ascendant) and work just as well for the native as Merc in virgo , theres more than one way to skin a cat !

[PD187540]

Haha yes, that sounds very true...I do tend to be sensitive to negative remarks and criticism, in a way that I'm turned on like a light bulb if anything critical is said about me, my work, etc. I usually then come up with a lightning-quick comeback to shatter that criticism and leave other people breathless, but that's just me haha. It's not that I don't take their criticism into account...of course I consider it, but it usually settles in after-the-fact. My Aries Moon just requires an instant response, which is purely instinctual more than anything else.

Oh, and just to switch topics here...I found a few very interesting things pertaining to my move to Los Angeles, California. Very symbolic, I'd say:

1) My last music concert in New York City will take place on June 23rd. I'm going to see Goldfrapp, an excellent electronic group. One of their songs they will play (so I've heard, and it's the last song) will be "Ride a White Horse." Now, I drive a white Mustang ("white horse"), which I will be driving all the way out to L.A. starting on the 27th. I just find that an extremely symbolic and relevant send-off :).

2) Speaking of horses, the sign Sagittarius supposedly rules over those animals. I will be a Rising Sagittarius in L.A. (and I have a Sagittarius South Node by birth, and Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in Sagittarius). Now here's what's funny...upon looking at the map of the area where I want to live in L.A., it actually forms a horse head. I kid you not. You can either take my word for it, or if you're interested, check it out on GoogleMaps. If you check out Los Feliz Blvd, take that west to where it curves south into N. Western Ave., then go right on the map into Sunset Blvd, that forms the horse snout. Continue following Sunset Blvd. as it curves southward, and you'll see the horse's mane. You may have to zoom out a bit to get the full picture.
And if you want to add a little numerology into the mix, the zip code of that area is 90027. Add all those single digits up and you have 18, 1+8=9. 9 is my life path number, and Sagittarius happens to be the 9th sign of the zodiac. This just CANNOT be a coincidence. If so, it seems too prophetic for something as trivial as a "coincidence."

Amazing, huh? When I saw this, it only confirmed to me that this location is certainly destined, with great potential involved here. Or am I just completely crazy? :biggrin:

[Caprising]

To be honest I havn't gone into numerology much , bit I hear what your saying, just don't yell yourself hoarse at the concert :).

[PD187540]

To be honest I havn't gone into numerology much , bit I hear what your saying, just don't yell yourself hoarse at the concert :).

HAHA! Nice pun! :biggrin:

[PD187540]

You certainly do have some ambition to achieve P.D., by the time we pass through our Saturn return we usually have some idea of what we are capable of, and also if we want to set the world on fire! You should know just how far you can and want to go by your early thirties, we certainly could use some politicians who are aware of their responsibilities to the people whom they represent!

Hey there, Mr. Cap! I have a few updates for you. Do you remember when you previously stated that I might move back to New York following my Ph.D. education out in Los Angeles? Well, I may have already created an option that would allow that.

Yesterday, I visited my former college's undergraduate research advisor. She and I are very close, and she's always looking out for me. Well, she's currently in a tenure-track professor position, and she's coming up for tenure in 2012. She will definitely get tenure; I have no doubts about that. What I then told her was that she may also become Chair of the Pharmacy Department in the future, and when I told her that, her mouth dropped because so many people were telling her that too. Now IF/WHEN she becomes either tenured or the Chair, she's keeping me in mind for a Professor position at my former university. How sweet would that be? If a position opens up for me over there by the time I graduate, you better believe I may be heading back to New York!

So I found that little aspect very interesting...

In other news, I looked into my lunar return for June 8th to approximately July 7th (Aries moon). This is the time period during which I'm moving out to Los Angeles. Isn't it interesting how the Moon in my lunar return chart is exactly placed in the 9th House (higher education)??? Mars is strongly conjunct the Virgo ascendant, and the north node is conjunct my natal ascendant.

On TOP of that, both the Sun and Mercury in the lunar return chart are posited in the 10th House, with Mercury conjunct the Midheaven. This is EXACTLY the same aspect which appears in my Los Angeles relocation chart! The lunar return Sun also conjuncts my natal north node by less than 2 degrees! (possibly indicating that the very essence of my being is closing in on the forthcoming destined events)

Isn't this way too synchronous? (I refuse to use the word "coincidence," since I don't believe in coincidences anymore.) This really has to be fate and destiny at work....there's no other explanation I can come up with.

[PD187540]

There was a post here made by a member, but it was deleted. Why do these moderators suddenly move the postings without any notice on the board??? I can only see what was originally posted in an email I received, and I should definitely post it below, since I find it very relevant to the discussion at hand.

This is what I mean about the Communist tendencies of these moderators. It's disgusting.

[Kenoshamaensa]

Actually, the original poster deleted the post because I realized that I'd done the progressed chart wrong and I did NOT have Mercury conjunct my MC (although I do have Venus sextiling it). As the post was no longer relevant, I deleted it. (Didn't want the moderators to get blamed for my own decision due to an error.)

[PD187540]

Ah ok, thanks for letting us know!! :biggrin:

[PD187540]

My initial thoughts are that we share quite a few placements in our natals, cap rising, sun in libra, moon in aries(both void of course), and merc in virgo!........You must be a real cool dude :biggrin: ......on a more serious note, the more I look into your relocated chart, the more confusing this becomes! We can relocate our natal chart and use it to sygnify changes of planetary strength that we can take advantage of, or we can progress and relocate our chart to get a totally different chart to the natal relocated! So which do we use? Beats me, I was taught to use the progressed/relocated chart, so thats what I do, however that doesn't mean that you can't try the natal relocated chart on for size, it possibly means that any skills/ positives that you were born with will be easy to use if strongly placed in the relocated natal chart(like merc in virgo on the M/C)! I will start with your progressed chart for valley stream, new york. In the year 2017 your natal merc will progress to your natal midheaven at 3 deg. scorp, at the same time your progressed mid heaven will conjunct progressed Uranus in sagg, a double hit , natal and progressed M/C! Your natal uranus placement will be conjunct the m.c. a year or so earlier, so Uranus/M.C. is going to be roughly a 3 year conjunction assuming a 1 degree approaching orb. You may have to shift back to New York in the future! :happy: You chart speaks to me of some form of spiritual learning, with Pallas right on your ascendant this would be my first guess, but I would like to hear more from you about your future aspirations before I go jumping to any conclusions. When I have more time I will look at the same time period in Los Angeles, and see what it shows us, in the mean time tell us more about what you think this will signify. Cheers Cap.

Hey Mr. Cap:

I've been going through some extreme changes every since I moved to Los Angeles 2 months ago, and what you said about moving back to NY is really interesting.

Do you know WHEN the possibility of that happening could occur? I'm extremely disappointed with the general population here, but even more so, I'm very dissatisfied with how the courses are taught at this particular university. Many, MANY times so far I've second-guessed my move to attend this particular college in this particular city. Frankly, I feel like just doing one semester here and high-tailing it back to New York in January.

I really don't know what to do, but my enthusiasm and motivation from the moving process in July up to today has gone from super excited to extremely disgusted.

[Caprising]

Hey Mr. Cap:

I've been going through some extreme changes every since I moved to Los Angeles 2 months ago, and what you said about moving back to NY is really interesting.

Do you know WHEN the possibility of that happening could occur? I'm extremely disappointed with the general population here, but even more so, I'm very dissatisfied with how the courses are taught at this particular university. Many, MANY times so far I've second-guessed my move to attend this particular college in this particular city. Frankly, I feel like just doing one semester here and high-tailing it back to New York in January.

I really don't know what to do, but my enthusiasm and motivation from the moving process in July up to today has gone from super excited to extremely disgusted.

More information on what your extremely disgusted with would be a big help in pinpointing the most probable cause P.D., The saturn opp. uranus/jupiter is a bit trying when saturn is transiting so close to our natal sun. I have been putting a lot of serious thought into personal relationships over the last few weeks, and have been seeing things that I never noticed before, some of them shock me, so I would guess that you have been doing much the same! It's a bit "trippy" at times, but part of the maturation process, so stay grounded and learn what you can from it.

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More information on what your extremely disgusted with would be a big help in pinpointing the most probable cause P.D., The saturn opp. uranus/jupiter is a bit trying when saturn is transiting so close to our natal sun. I have been putting a lot of serious thought into personal relationships over the last few weeks, and have been seeing things that I never noticed before, some of them shock me, so I would guess that you have been doing much the same! It's a bit "trippy" at times, but part of the maturation process, so stay grounded and learn what you can from it.

With regard to the Ph.D. program, I don't like the teaching methodology used: all PowerPoint slides with no required textbook, so I'm left wondering what I should or should not study off those slides. That's number one.

Two, I was told today that I have to do a 45-minute PowerPoint presentation on Wednesday (less than 48 hours from now), when I should have been notified 2 weeks in advance according to the syllabus. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone over here. I'm 4 weeks into the program, and already, an extreme state of discontent has set in, to the point where I'm searching for full-time jobs so I can withdraw from the program.

When I re-evaluate my solar return (which I'm really starting to feel since my birthday is next Friday), I discovered some new interpretations. Saturn conjunct Sun in the 4th House (responsibilities at home...originally, I thought that mean establishing new roots here in Los Angeles, but that may indeed refer to the fact that I may be moving back to my original home). Also, my grandfather is still in surgery today, so who knows what's going to happen with his health. The family is in a state of confusion over that.

Also, Neptune in the 9th House: confusion and uncertainty regarding higher education. I'm feeling that one more strongly than ever. Another aspect is Jupiter conjunct Uranus both conjunct the Midheaven...possibly me taking a new well-paying job that lead me to suddenly shift career paths??

Instinctively, this really seems like the case right now.

[Caprising]

With regard to the Ph.D. program, I don't like the teaching methodology used: all PowerPoint slides with no required textbook, so I'm left wondering what I should or should not study off those slides. That's number one.

Two, I was told today that I have to do a 45-minute PowerPoint presentation on Wednesday (less than 48 hours from now), when I should have been notified 2 weeks in advance according to the syllabus. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone over here. I'm 4 weeks into the program, and already, an extreme state of discontent has set in, to the point where I'm searching for full-time jobs so I can withdraw from the program.

When I re-evaluate my solar return (which I'm really starting to feel since my birthday is next Friday), I discovered some new interpretations. Saturn conjunct Sun in the 4th House (responsibilities at home...originally, I thought that mean establishing new roots here in Los Angeles, but that may indeed refer to the fact that I may be moving back to my original home). Also, my grandfather is still in surgery today, so who knows what's going to happen with his health. The family is in a state of confusion over that.

Also, Neptune in the 9th House: confusion and uncertainty regarding higher education. I'm feeling that one more strongly than ever. Another aspect is Jupiter conjunct Uranus both conjunct the Midheaven...possibly me taking a new well-paying job that lead me to suddenly shift career paths??

Instinctively, this really seems like the case right now.

I wouldn't go throwing your course away just yet, try not to be too impulsive !
O.K., things are getting a bit messy with natal relocated and progressed relocated charts to ponder, adding the solar return and transits to the mix , we could probably find 5 reasons in each chart to basically fit the problems your having.
Im using the natal progressed to your hometown, and the natal progressed to your new residence. I'm going to try rectifying your natal chart to 2.52 p.m., because it fits better with what I see. When you first started posting in this thread, on the 5/5 this year, you did seem to be very optimistic about your future, I think that this was because your natal m/c had just changed into saggitarius (optimism), now that your charts m/c/I.C. axis has moved forward around half of a degree your I.C. is now within 1 degree of chiron in gemini. You certainly do sound a bit wounded at this point, Although with the hairy transits happening at the moment I could be jumping the gun here. Your progressed chart has your sun and moon both aspecting neptune, idealism ? Your natal pluto/saturn on the m/c probably gives you an urge to control the schools teaching methods, it doesn't really matter if their not teaching the way that you think you should be taught, as long as you pass easily enough then don't sweat the small stuff, as for having to make a powerpoint presentation within a certain time, thats preparing you for the world of work, where the pressure is on more than it is off! Have you had any problems fitting in with the lecturers or other students as yet?

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I wouldn't go throwing your course away just yet, try not to be too impulsive !
O.K., things are getting a bit messy with natal relocated and progressed relocated charts to ponder, adding the solar return and transits to the mix , we could probably find 5 reasons in each chart to basically fit the problems your having.
Im using the natal progressed to your hometown, and the natal progressed to your new residence. I'm going to try rectifying your natal chart to 2.52 p.m., because it fits better with what I see. When you first started posting in this thread, on the 5/5 this year, you did seem to be very optimistic about your future, I think that this was because your natal m/c had just changed into saggitarius (optimism), now that your charts m/c/I.C. axis has moved forward around half of a degree your I.C. is now within 1 degree of chiron in gemini. You certainly do sound a bit wounded at this point, Although with the hairy transits happening at the moment I could be jumping the gun here. Your progressed chart has your sun and moon both aspecting neptune, idealism ? Your natal pluto/saturn on the m/c probably gives you an urge to control the schools teaching methods, it doesn't really matter if their not teaching the way that you think you should be taught, as long as you pass easily enough then don't sweat the small stuff, as for having to make a powerpoint presentation within a certain time, thats preparing you for the world of work, where the pressure is on more than it is off! Have you had any problems fitting in with the lecturers or other students as yet?

Wow, you sound like my Mom hahaha (not a bad thing!). She also said "as long as you pass, don't sweat it." That's very true, since I'm normally an overachiever. I think it's just time that I have to accept less than an A, and still be fine with that.

I have no problems fitting in with the lecturers or other students. I'm friendly, they're friendly, etc. It's just superficial, school-related, business-type relations though, of course. Nothing personal at all. Luckily enough, I had my presentation postponed until the 29th. So thank god for that

By the way, you said that you rectified my chart to 2:52 PM. Do you think that's my real birth time overall and not 2:48PM? If so, why do you think that?

[Caprising]

PD quoted "By the way, you said that you rectified my chart to 2:52 PM. Do you think that's my real birth time overall and not 2:48PM? If so, why do you think that?

I'm looking for clues as to wether your natal or relocated progressed chart is the one to use, as always in astrology there are 5 differing opinions as to which charts to use, if we can match the planetary positions and transits with your real life events/veiws then we should be able to choose the correct chart with which to work. Using approaching orbs of 1 degree for progressed angles conjuncting planets (I.C. conjuncting Chiron) would indicate that your diss-illusion with your university could be a chiron matter which would then give us at least 2 options to consider, one is that the approaching orb for an angle conjuncting a planet would be at least 2 degrees , and two is that your birthtime is out by a few minutes. Then theres Neptune to think about, being trine and sextile to your sun and moon, theres a better chance that your dissillusion is connected with the planet of illusion (Neptune). At this stage my money is on Neptune, so I'm trying to verify your natal birthtime as being correct! From memory I think that you got your birthtime from hospital records, is that correct?

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PD quoted "By the way, you said that you rectified my chart to 2:52 PM. Do you think that's my real birth time overall and not 2:48PM? If so, why do you think that?

I'm looking for clues as to wether your natal or relocated progressed chart is the one to use, as always in astrology there are 5 differing opinions as to which charts to use, if we can match the planetary positions and transits with your real life events/veiws then we should be able to choose the correct chart with which to work. Using approaching orbs of 1 degree for progressed angles conjuncting planets (I.C. conjuncting Chiron) would indicate that your diss-illusion with your university could be a chiron matter which would then give us at least 2 options to consider, one is that the approaching orb for an angle conjuncting a planet would be at least 2 degrees , and two is that your birthtime is out by a few minutes. Then theres Neptune to think about, being trine and sextile to your sun and moon, theres a better chance that your dissillusion is connected with the planet of illusion (Neptune). At this stage my money is on Neptune, so I'm trying to verify your natal birthtime as being correct! From memory I think that you got your birthtime from hospital records, is that correct?

Yes sir, that's correct. According to my hospital birth certificate, it has 2:48PM (Eastern time in NY) as my birth time.

With what you said about Neptune, I really think it's just a purely Neptunian influence. My uncertainty about college comes and goes...fades in and out. Now (as compared to earlier this week, or even last week), I feel relieved and not so "fed up" (but maybe that's because I have a 3-day weekend approaching) :).

But yeah, Neptune seems to be a major planet of focus for me. For one thing, it's the planet receiving the most aspects in my chart (according to Clairvision astrology), and I tend to feel its effects a lot more in solar returns.

To give you an example, I had Neptune in the 6th House for 2006-2007. So you would think that placement indicates uncertainty about health or work....I happened to come down with mononucleosis that year (while I was unemployed), and I had nooo idea what was wrong with me. I went to every specialist you could think of...I thought I had cancer, diabetes, aids, etc, and I was a major hypochondriac for 4 months (which is how long this chronic fatigue-type illness lasted). Sure enough, my doctor performed a simple blood test after I went through all this medical stuff (even going so far as to have a colonoscopy done!), and he said I had mono. Everything else was normal.

So yeah, Neptune is the big planet for me, I think.

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I agree that Neptune is the source of your dissillusionment, after all it is sextile to pluto, the ruler of your 10th house! I have neptune virtually in the 10th, and I've been through around 40 jobs over the years, looking for some satisfaction! I can only get short term satisfaction out of a new job, after the thrill of discovery wears off I get restless so move on if circumstances permit. I finally realised that work is only really about 2 or 3 houses in my chart, if i pour myself into work then other houses/areas miss out, so have decided that a balance needs to be found.

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I agree that Neptune is the source of your dissillusionment, after all it is sextile to pluto, the ruler of your 10th house! I have neptune virtually in the 10th, and I've been through around 40 jobs over the years, looking for some satisfaction! I can only get short term satisfaction out of a new job, after the thrill of discovery wears off I get restless so move on if circumstances permit. I finally realised that work is only really about 2 or 3 houses in my chart, if i pour myself into work then other houses/areas miss out, so have decided that a balance needs to be found.


Wow, that's what Neptune in the 10th does to you? Hmm, that really makes sense then in my case. So what I should do is just acknowledge that this is a cosmic influence that I should basically ignore and just go through with what I have to do. I will admit that it's very tough to just ignore these feelings when they creep in. Defying the cosmos is something I don't like to do, but I'll have to do just that. I just hope that it just stays as a "feeling" and doesn't develop into an action (if any other influences come into play with that sextile to exacerbate it and give it action).

As for my natural Neptune in the 12th, I tend to suffer from bouts of paranoia. That's the downside. Upside is I have pretty well-honed instincts and gut feelings about things.

[Caprising]

Wow, that's what Neptune in the 10th does to you? Hmm, that really makes sense then in my case. So what I should do is just acknowledge that this is a cosmic influence that I should basically ignore and just go through with what I have to do. I will admit that it's very tough to just ignore these feelings when they creep in. Defying the cosmos is something I don't like to do, but I'll have to do just that. I just hope that it just stays as a "feeling" and doesn't develop into an action (if any other influences come into play with that sextile to exacerbate it and give it action).

As for my natural Neptune in the 12th, I tend to suffer from bouts of paranoia. That's the downside. Upside is I have pretty well-honed instincts and gut feelings about things.

I wouldn't advise ignoring your Neptune, just using it as a guide to the atmosphere you feel around you. If i know pluto and saturn on the m/c you may find that you will alienate yourself through your own behaviour (most of us feel a bit alienated at one time or another in our lives). I would suggest using Neptune as a guide , if your getting paranoid then theres probably a reason!

you posted "To give you an example, I had Neptune in the 6th House for 2006-2007. So you would think that placement indicates uncertainty about health or work....I happened to come down with mononucleosis that year (while I was unemployed), and I had nooo idea what was wrong with me. I went to every specialist you could think of...I thought I had cancer, diabetes, aids, etc, and I was a major hypochondriac for 4 months (which is how long this chronic fatigue-type illness lasted). Sure enough, my doctor performed a simple blood test after I went through all this medical stuff (even going so far as to have a colonoscopy done!), and he said I had mono. Everything else was normal."

Do you have dates for this illness? like say late 2006 to early 2007?

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I wouldn't advise ignoring your Neptune, just using it as a guide to the atmosphere you feel around you. If i know pluto and saturn on the m/c you may find that you will alienate yourself through your own behaviour (most of us feel a bit alienated at one time or another in our lives). I would suggest using Neptune as a guide , if your getting paranoid then theres probably a reason!

you posted "To give you an example, I had Neptune in the 6th House for 2006-2007. So you would think that placement indicates uncertainty about health or work....I happened to come down with mononucleosis that year (while I was unemployed), and I had nooo idea what was wrong with me. I went to every specialist you could think of...I thought I had cancer, diabetes, aids, etc, and I was a major hypochondriac for 4 months (which is how long this chronic fatigue-type illness lasted). Sure enough, my doctor performed a simple blood test after I went through all this medical stuff (even going so far as to have a colonoscopy done!), and he said I had mono. Everything else was normal."

Do you have dates for this illness? like say late 2006 to early 2007?

It started in 2007, with the worst being from July to October. The illness miraculously disappeared about 2 days before Thanksgiving 2007.

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I wouldn't advise ignoring your Neptune, just using it as a guide to the atmosphere you feel around you. If i know pluto and saturn on the m/c you may find that you will alienate yourself through your own behaviour (most of us feel a bit alienated at one time or another in our lives). I would suggest using Neptune as a guide , if your getting paranoid then theres probably a reason!

you posted "To give you an example, I had Neptune in the 6th House for 2006-2007. So you would think that placement indicates uncertainty about health or work....I happened to come down with mononucleosis that year (while I was unemployed), and I had nooo idea what was wrong with me. I went to every specialist you could think of...I thought I had cancer, diabetes, aids, etc, and I was a major hypochondriac for 4 months (which is how long this chronic fatigue-type illness lasted). Sure enough, my doctor performed a simple blood test after I went through all this medical stuff (even going so far as to have a colonoscopy done!), and he said I had mono. Everything else was normal."

Do you have dates for this illness? like say late 2006 to early 2007?

Well, it happened. I've officially decided to completely withdraw from the Ph.D. program at this particular college. After the pharmacology midterm today, I've had it.

I absolutely can't stand the way the material in all my classes is being taught, which is not conducive to my learning ability. I'm certainly not stupid, and the content isn't a problem (so it's not a matter of difficulty). It's the way it's all being taught.

Interesting how this all is occurring right before my birthday on Friday. What a nice birthday present! Also, I have a job interview to be a chemistry tutor Monday to Friday 3 to 8PM (which I have an excellent chance of getting the job since both of my friends know the boss over there). I'll take that in the meantime to make some cash, but as for what the future holds, I have noooo idea.

Do you see any of this in my current charts? Just curious....and when you said before that I may be moving back to NY one of these days, I wonder when and what the reason is for that. Any help would be great!!!!!!!! :biggrin:

[Caprising]

Well, it happened. I've officially decided to completely withdraw from the Ph.D. program at this particular college. After the pharmacology midterm today, I've had it.

I absolutely can't stand the way the material in all my classes is being taught, which is not conducive to my learning ability. I'm certainly not stupid, and the content isn't a problem (so it's not a matter of difficulty). It's the way it's all being taught.

Interesting how this all is occurring right before my birthday on Friday. What a nice birthday present! Also, I have a job interview to be a chemistry tutor Monday to Friday 3 to 8PM (which I have an excellent chance of getting the job since both of my friends know the boss over there). I'll take that in the meantime to make some cash, but as for what the future holds, I have noooo idea


Do you see any of this in my current charts? Just curious....and when you said before that I may be moving back to NY one of these days, I wonder when and what the reason is for that. Any help would be great!!!!!!!! :biggrin:
Im sorry to hear about your plight, but when one door closes.......
From memory you had good m/c aspects when back in new york, but thats around the year 2016, uranus in sagg conjunct m/c.!... which could work against you too!
When I mentioned having a "plan B" in case the P.H.D. didn't come to fruition I was looking at your progressed I.C. coming to a conjunction with chiron in gemini, as well as transiting chiron/neptune in opposition to your mars, along with uranus and jupiter transiting your natal I.C. ,within a degree or 2 so far.......it's hard to put this group of transits/progressions and natal placements together as a whole, there are so many possibilities especially when I hardly know you! Having said that, Saturn transiting your 10th while theres so much activity on your natal/progressed I.C. has got to affect where your coming from (I.C.) and where your going (10th), if you can secure employment easily (from what you have said it sounds like you can) then there's no major problem for you financially, easing the pressure and giving you some time to work out which direction you really want to go in. Your natal Neptune is very close to the galactic centre, you might want to look into this further , especially since your natal sun will conjunct pluto very soon, around the same time as pluto transits your natal ascendant, it sounds like a "rebirth" of yourself will be the final outcome, then you should have worked out just where your going to head in this lifetime!

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I can't thank you enough for your pearls of wisdom! You are such a great and astute being, that's for sure!!!

But check this out...something has suddenly come up out of nowhere, a stroke of genius and insight. Just today, I got a part-time job tutoring chemistry to high school students in my area. That's the first thing.

Secondly, I am indeed withdrawing from the Ph.D. program. As a sudden back-up plan, I'm applying to a Master's degree in Teaching (with concentration in teaching chemistry/biology on the high school level). The deadline to apply is October 4th, and classes start a month later in November. After speaking to the admissions counselor, he said that since I'm already enrolled at USC, I could easily get my transcripts and letters of recommendation transferred over, so all I need to do is fill out a formal application. This just feels sooooo great, and I've always wanted to teach in some capacity.

I think this is a great move. Again, I have to ask you if this is somewhat seen in my astrology charts. I have a strong feeling it is. Taking another look at my solar return (which just came into effect today), I found this aspect:

URANUS in 10TH HOUSE

URANUS in 10TH HOUSE
You are most likely to experience turning points in your profession or career, perhaps change of profession in fact. You also may simply go on doing your usual tasks, but in a different way…If this is the situation, you will definitely rock the boat [and it IS, since the professors' teaching style in my Ph.D. program is downright awful, unpredictable, and not conducive to my learning abilities].

Also, perhaps new technologies and equipment would be introduced in your company, such as the complete computerization of the working process. [This master's degree is totally online-based, with student teaching field work]. Major lifestyle changes may also be considered including divorce, separation, or major relocations. You may move away from your parents or they may relocate…


Also...

JUPITER in 10TH HOUSE
This is almost always a positive signal concerning your growth – normally it’s a professional growth. Good luck is definitely forecasted for you in the career field…You may also become stronger psychologically; overcome fears or taboos; identify profitable projects for the future; meet people who can change your life [WHICH actually happened...I know this one friend whom I met 3 weeks ago, and he introduced me to his friend, who offered me the tutoring job, which led me to consider going for a teaching degree!]; complete your university education [the online teaching degree is only one-year long]; purchase your dream house; become a father or mother; get married, and so on. A Jupiter strictly conjunct with the MC is the best combination that one can obtain in a Solar Return chart. [AND IT IS, 4 DEGREES CONJUNCT] In some cases, this celestial position announces a very good period for your mother...

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I think I'm aligning with my purpose :biggrin: How does it all look?

[Caprising]

Thanks for the nice comments, I'm really just a guy trying to decipher the astrology puzzle, and also how it can be used for good purposes!
O.k., I don't use solar returns as yet, I'm still trying to get my head around natals/ progressions/transits , so I used your progressed chart with your birth place as this seems to be the most accurate so far. I would suggest that with your recent progressed angles (I.C. into gemini and M/C into sagg,) your direction has changed from the natal taurus I.C. and scorp M.C., (which would be the study of an earth subject (molecular biology) with scorpio m/c showing the indepth study of the subject matter, now you probably want to communicate more (Gem) and teach (sagg)! I find the I.C./M.C. axis to be very powerful , just behind (or in unison with) the ascendant! Don't indulge in your Neptune this time around, don't expect everything to be what you envisioned it will be, that would be setting yourself up for more disillusion, Having said that I hope that you find it to be stimulating! I have to run now, Cheers Cap.

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Wow, looking back at my posts about my trip to California, I can't believe how much I went through. I said that my Saturn Return was really easy, and that's far from the truth! It's really difficult.

I'm STILL at home in New York and jobless. I've basically self-imprisoned myself at home because there's nothing for me to do here whatsoever....no job interests, no close friends, nada.

I moved to Philadelphia for one semester last year for a master's degree, but I dropped out of that. It seems like every time I move somewhere for college, it backfires on me every time. I also discovered that my pathology assistant career is completely dead and buried, so I have to try something new.

Perhaps if I moved somewhere else for a job, I would permanently stay there and leave New York for good. My career interest now is in a related field: medicolegal death investigation. I've been applying to jobs all over the country in the hopes that one will bite. If not, I foresee a very grave future for me.

What I've also decided to do is to consult a professional locational astrologer. I'm going to find out exactly what's the best location for me in the United States to find and sustain a suitable job/career for me. Then whatever location he gives, I'm going to search for jobs in that area. I just know for a fact that New York is not the place for me to grow personally and professionally.