Tennis predictions

[banefranco]

Ok I am back with new thread,
TENNIS predictions

I started to check tennis matches some days ago and I think it is interesting to make some notes here.
Until now I found that the same aproach as in soccer is almost imposible, well let us say it is not
wisely to use the same criteria.
So, in tennis time of the beginnig is extrimely important if you are not sure do not make prediction.
You will find enclosed two charts for the matches played today both are wrong but it does not matter.
Why? Becouse the point is that if you use any until today method for placement Safina or Venus you will
make miss. No ASC or DSC, No ACC dig or Ess digs strenth, No fans. The only working was to use Planets
rulers of those two players and the other cosmic things that make impacts on those two rulers. Nothing else.
It is so simple is it? No, if you want to make more precize results you have to make big check.
I will leave to you to check those two charts and find the aspect who made one of these two planets rulers
to lose, not to win.
You can find born data for Safina and Venus Williams easy.
If they have started at 15:00 Safina would win, they started almost one hour and half later, Safina lost.
Have fun.

[banefranco]

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Even more I suggest not to use any system in any part of astrology. Miracle.
No, Use born data of the players, draw the event chart, use rulers of plauers, representatives of them count their strenth according to Acc digs and Ess. digs and finally watch the aspects.
Up to now I can say Moon aspects are crucial and more important than any other aspect, also Nodes and Part of Fortune. Nothing else.
This aproach is based on matches played at Wimbledon this year. I had 100% predictions except the first two days when I was in doubt about some stupid suggestions.
Well there is a place for improvement here quite a lot, but this makes sence.
Just think about this, no jerseys, no placement, no time of born for players, no national flags no colours, no MINE 'LIGHT TABLE',sounds good.

[banefranco]

[repititious and attacking comments deleted]

[banefranco]

Something more,
I cannot predict matches where is the same ruler for both players, where Acc and Ess digs are 'mixed' with values,but that is for now.
But it is neccesiary to check at least one hour of the match for women and one and half for men matches. The TIME. If there are no problematic, challenging aspects to rulers than you can make prediction.
It seems to be that peregrined planet is not the bad option at all. I do not treat it that way.
You are the strongest when you are alone. The weakest when you are even with good aspects from wrong people.

[banefranco]

One observation here.
As you could see I tried to find exact ways for placement teams at soccer, the same intention is her. One answer on hypothetic question, I do not support any prediction by using country sign as information so if you make long term predictions according to 'kick off' try to avoid magic in these data. What is the problem? As you know there are countries, regions, cities, towns, villiges even buildings. It is ok to have the sign for any of those points but as you know many countries are constituted by union of regions, smaller parts, so if you take a look at Germany for example what sign would you use, for Bavaria, Prussia or Western Germany East germany old Union new union what? Germany is the country with long history, England also, or Great Britain.
There are no precize data for many countries as well.
The similar situation is with Switzerland, Italy ( Lilly knew Lombardia also also some smaller parts in Italy).
Above all you have many informations about country's sign also different ( as I noticed).
So any prediction using this aprach can lead to foggy prediction where 'divination' of an astrologer can be crucial.
And it reminds me like 'Windows', many versions, many service packs, endless and useless discusions.
I do not say that it is not possible but I would realy like to see a proof on at least 100 examples from today's astrologers.

[banefranco]

I would really like to have here discusion about method I suggested to all of you. But first do not be leasy and check yourself some matches started at 12:00 LT at wimbledon. You will be amazed like me. This expirience will change my aproach to soccer prediction also. Just follow dignities of the planets rulers and watch what Moon does, also POF and Nodes. I do not have any expirience with SUN impact (aspects) to the rulers and POF antiscia. Yet. It seems to be no Zodiac signs involved.Wow.

[banefranco]

As I do not want to critisize anyone here I noticed that LAST MOON ASPECT if let say bad aspect to planet ruler, I want to avoid this word BAD, means that player loses. Ha.If TRIGO OR SEXTILE I cannot say opposite but we will see. POF conjunction to a planet ruler means win, no matter of ACC digs or Ess digs diference.
Well take care that those opinions are after check of 30 matches only so everything is possible.As I sow ASC Via Combusta did not make any role.Or Moon Voc. Or any speed of the Moon.
We will see.

[banefranco]

Hello, I only wanted to remind you about some facts. I enclosed three charts here one for 'kick of for Wimbledon
and other two for women finals today and Men's final for tommorow. Correct me if I am wrong.
Now I wanted to show to you the difference of the methods and you can make a choice.
One is when you use the chart for the begining of the tournament. And you can read at this forum a prediction
based on that chart. So there are some things about, If you claim that Switzerland is Saturn I will remind you
that Lilly in his Christian astrology mentioned Switzerland exatcly with that name as positioned in Taurus so as my poor
knowledge in astrology is, I think that Venus is usually the ruler of Taurus. Correct me if I missed to learn something.
I have found that some informations that Switzerland is also in Virgo. Again according to my knowledge Ruler in this case
is Mercury. I have not found anywhere, yet, Switzerland with ruler Saturn. Ok might be. But whome to trust to Lilly or
to whome else. As you all know that Switzerland exist for centuries I am ready to trust Lilly.
Well for one prediction like this the first step is to trust someone. Wow.
Everything is for check. There is one more question. if you count USA as Gemini,I am Gemini so you will understand that I would
like USA to be in Gemini. But do you know that there are 51 countries united in USA. And all of these countries has their
birth sign. God had no idea about USA when created the world but it happend, destined to happen.
Well you have two acts for one country when born. Act of declaration and the Act of constitution.
Ok wich one we use as rule?
Now Germany was separated after the second world war and then reunited in the same country.What now. To count Germany as
the new country in the world I would not do that. I have full respect to that very old country and I know a little bit
of history how was the first union and how Germany was established.
So if you make prediction that Someone from Southeast from Wimbledon will win even if this is true at the end that is not more
serious than a guess. Good guess.
Further more if you make prediction about women's final according to the kick of table now you are ready to make wonder.
Will you use some wonderstick or just hands full of magic?
And now we have someone from USA. It is nice and sounds easy but you have two players from USA. Well now it comes the time to
analyze AGES of players. when you do that in sports astrology you are ready for real one astrologer. Might be some books will
be publiced by you.As in Horary astrology if you hardly and seriously believe in something than it is possible for astrologer
to predict specially for you an outcome. And of couse for noone else.
The question of profit. I do not understand when anyone makes that question? Simple answer: Make right prediction and you will
make a profit. That is will I make a profit from Serena Williams. If I make a right prediction I will.
If it is not complicated for you use this method mentioned. I would be interested in woman's ages if I play tennis against her
and if there are possibilities for her not to finish that match.
One question why do not you try to count Accidental and Essential dignities for women's final and see if there are some
difficult aspects to their rulers and make prediction? I needed 15 seconds and I even haven't have to look for their ages, country
they live or they are born or to check wether they really are women. Just the date without a year,even.
That's all folks, have a nice time.

[banefranco]

Oh I forgot,
Don't you know that Federer will win tommorow. Check the chart I did not, but trust me ( everything is for check).

[banefranco]

What is with personal question will I profit from Serena? Yeees.
Easy like Sunday morning.......

[banefranco]

I have to try with number of shoes comparing to Venus an MC point. Ha.
Do not complicate...

[banefranco]

Well, brothers Bryan from USA, 'kick of' table for Wimbledon says Gemini to win, they are twins but lost, youger wins according to that table, but as Bryans are younger they lost. Nestor is almost older than Dynosaurus, kidding, but won. So conclusion can be the older can run faster. Or slower?
Ok, just for good morning, I will place bets on Federer according to astrology analyze.

[banefranco]

Ok folks,
Here is another observation. Take a look at the chart. What you see. Federer won. Yes but something else. I wondered why maximum sets and so manu games.
Might be, I said might be it is becouse of let say good aspect to SUN ruler of Federer by Saturn. What would happen if the Sun was bad aspected by Saturn I cannot even imagine.
But I do apologize I have spent so much time for soccer rules you all know who have read my other thred that I usually use only numerical values for opponents. That is sort of miss but I need more time for perfection in sports predicitng. It will be soon.
If I should have known the impact of Saturn I would predict total of sets in final not only the winner.
For doubles I will announce what I have found later. Let us be succesfull at this stage first.

[banefranco]

Sorry here is the chart

[banefranco]

Tournament Bastad- Kirilenko-Win possible in 2 sets 7th July 2009
Tournament budapest- Cornet - Win possible 2 sets 7th July 2009
Somebody can place charts for Bastad, Sweden at 11:00 and for Budapest, Hungary 12:00. both for 7th July 2009

[banefranco]

Explanation of the system I use for predicting outcomes in Tennis.

Event astrology chart
Regiomontanus system houses
Planets rulers according to players born data ( no year neccesiary)
Horary system for counting dignities ( developed by Franco for all planets in Solar system as Horary astrology does treat only seven planets)
Aspect's definitions developed by Franco for individual sports.
Solar Fire astrology software

[banefranco]

Predictions For Tournament Budapest for 8th July
Patty Schnyder - Win
A. Bondarenko - Win
If you have some questions place the chart and ask.

[banefranco]

Ok Folks,
If you blame someone for something you must say if he is right. It is sometimes hard to say but I calculated that possibilily
in my mind.
Anyway I missed to play Wozniack to win, Karlovic to win, Gallovitz to win just becouse of 'APLYING ASPECT BY THE MOON TO A PLANET
RULER BY CONJUNCTION'. I wrote that I check Frawley's rules several times becouse almost none of them works.So whome to blame for this loss of money couse
I did not place bets.
No, I did, but as you now that I have personal responsibility I placed bet for one euro just becouse I made prediction for those
matches but I did not place them for public. Well, I paid for this expirience as little as possible. TIME costs, wasting of TIME.
That one Frawley's rule seems to be the right one.
If you calculate dignities only, you will make a miss. In one case, Wozniacki has Moon as ruler and no matter to aplying aspect to
the other ruler by conjunction, Jupiter, she won. But there is something more. If that rule is right than my system how to aproach
to tennis has to be right.
'Last Moon aspect' does not work in tennis, soccer and volleyball also. We will see in Domino game later on.
But it indicates goal chance like any other aspect, almost.
You can easily check at your charts for those matches.
I forgot to mention that Moon conjunction is valuable in 5 degrees range aplying aspect only.That is for more serious checks.

[banefranco]

Ok, something concerning tennis and not only tennis predictions. In Frawley's Horary textbook at the 'Essential dignities'
the table of dignities does not have Mercury fall in Leo, so if you had problems in predicting tennis matches these days with rullers
where mercury is involved might be becouse of that.No, it is becouse of that.What can one 'artist' do with the science?

[Mercury]

What are you talking about Mercury in fall in Leo?

Also it is stated by Frawley which no one seems to listen, DO NOT MIX HORARY TECHNIQUES WITH EVENT CHARTS. (i.e essential dignities etc

Secondly he states DO NOT USE EVENT CHARTS ON EVERY SINGLE MATCH.

However I do respect your deep deep passion and commitment to your interest.

please write back.

[banefranco]

If you share astrology on parts might be you have the problem.And Mercury position is not the questin of the way we like to see things it is the matter astrology definition wether you like it or not. 'Sports astrology' was the book written for making right predictions, right? And with working rules, right?
I had a good will for writing my expirience here if you have better working method express it.
If you respect Frawley's work up to you. I presented my working rules if you like it use it if not do not use it.
Simple.

[banefranco]

Above all, many others had the same bad expirience like me.As you can read.
Predictions in Tennis given here also Volleyball are just samples that there are working methods for those sports. Will be more sports in the future.

[banefranco]

And for your information, USE the event chart on every single match, why not. It is shown by prediction on the whole France 2 league matches some months ago at my other thread.

[Mercury]

I hear what you are saying and you make many valid points as I have not read all your posts.

However what I do see on the board is that for three years not one technique has proven to be consistent. I broke out of that trap thanks to Frawley.

My common sense tells me however that the only reason why so many people have a problem with Frawley is that they just do not listen or worse even read.

People are obssessed with him being a thief, if he does not produce a 100% system when actually if you do what he says,

FOCUS ON THE ASTROLOGY. :alien: you will make a profit no problem.

Benefranco I think I may have hurt your feelings because my words sound arrogant. I really like you though and please hope we can be friends. There is maybe more you can teach me than Frawley.

Thanks for your reply. :happy::wink:

[banefranco]

Ok, at the page 9(very beginning of the book 'Sports astrology') there is the title:
ANY PLANET WITH ESSENTIAL DIGNITY IS BENEFIC
ANY PLANET IN ITS DETRIMENT OR FALL IS MALEFIC
On the page 24 there is the table the same as in Horary textbook about Essential dignities. Mercury in LEO is in Fall and
that is a FACT.It just misses in that table or some aliens came here and change it.
And that is mentioned in almost any book treating astrology.
For example 'The only way to learn astrology' by Marion March and Joan McEvers.Perfect astrology basics.
Careful reading is wise suggestion.
I will leave to anyone as for personal question if he or she understood anyone ,even Frawley. I understood him quite well thanks to God.
As here the only matters that have to concern us is wether we have right prediction or not.
By the way I do not see any connection between mixing methods and Mercury position, but well.
As I know that many people read Frawley's books this was an observation, nothing more.
I promised that I will avoid to write anything bad about Frawley but I will use this place to write if I find any of his rules that are
working.
Horary techniques are useful for sports predictions but not in absolute way. There are holes.
Anyone can check today's tennis matches in Hambourg and if you use planet rulers for each player and simply compare them you will
get precizely today's winners, until now.There are more matches to come.
And I encourage any of you to check all the matches for today. NO MISS.

[banefranco]

I do not take things personly becouse I had many expiriences in communication at some other forums. Exactly the same. I already explained why I decided to write at this forum, becouse of the truth, I am very close to the right rule which can gurantee to me constant right prediction and that is all.
And I also presented my method which gives me constant results, under explained circumstances.
Free of charge.
But when you write the book you must have responsibility and conscience.
Anyway I do not use Frawley's rules, I do not suggest them and I have constant right predictions.
I have never said that none of them works but almost none of them. More important, some of his rules work under some circumstances he has not mentioned.
But never mind that story is over.

[banefranco]

Ha, this communication inspired me to write something again.
Astrology is the EXACT science, no magic, no ART expression.

[Mercury]

1) Mercury is in fall in Pisces NOT Leo. It has Term, in 6 - 13 Leo. NOT FALL?

2) You are using Horary techniques of Frawley to draw event charts and then saying Frawley is publishing information that is incorrrect when he states DO NOT USE DIGNITIES IN THE EVENT CHART?

3) The table of dignities is the same in Sports Astrology and Horary textbook.

4) He states clearly DO NOT DRAW AN EVENT CHART FOR EVERY MATCH THEY WILL BE INCORRECT.

[Mercury]

[personal attack violates Forum rules and is deleted.]

[banefranco]

Ok, as I said use your own method you found sutible and working for you.
I use Mercury fall in Leo. It is not important which chart to use, Mercury placement is important.
Well, if you do not want to place predictions and method you use this conversation is useless. Here is the only point, making the right prediction.
I will not answer any of replyes like this any more.

[Mercury]

Ok. But remember there are not any consistent predictions on your posts in three years,

and I would be surprised if you would find any astrologer in the world that thinks Mercury is in fall

in Leo.

[banefranco]

Ha this deserves comment. As anybody can see in the right corner of my posts is join date SEP 2007 If anyone counts that is less than two years not three.As many people are ready to discuss about everything before are involved in matter serously anybody who has read my thread about that astrologer can find that I wrote about the relations to his publishers in Serbia. And as you all know who have read that thread little bit more patiently that I informed Frawley and his publisher about this forum address. So that was all up to me.
Above all his publisher is in a possibility to reach me in Belgrade any time she wants.
But I am eager for some astrologer's meeteng here.
By the way some information, Frawley knows very well the name Goran Milekic, famous Serbian astrologer who has, let say(ha,ha) discussion with Frawley here in Belgrade. I will leave to Frawley to write about that. If I meet him I will remind him.

[Mercury]

[Guys, please--no more personal attacks. We will close this thread if it continues. W.]

[Mercury]

Benefacto I am teasing mate. I would honestly be really interested where you predict all the

league 2 French games in advance I can not find it? :crying:

[banefranco]

You can find all explanations proved by charts at my thread 'John Frawley is......'. But you must read from the beginning. I suggest you to read all that thread to see that John Frawley was not blamed without any proof like you have done to me here, on contrary everything I said was presented with chart. So you can find not only the one league matches predictions but also some exact time for scoring goals. I use to advice anyone to check everything what is said in any interest of life. First phase is learning and trust, second is checking what we have learned, third phase is knowledge.
But as you wrote, you check my predictions for let say many years I just wonder how it is possible that you do not know at what page I gave all of those predictions.
I simply cannot and will never accept that 'stars can be leasy'. That is the way I think.
And I accept any conversation based on proofs. Nobody is perfect. Otherwise no.
More predictions for tennis matches I give at my forum for Serbian visitors as I do not want to make these threads like sites for free betting tips. I also explained that.
I will also use this space to mention that I do not accept any rule without multiple check since I have had the bad expirience with that book. I do not care about the names of astrologers I respect only checked rules. It is a lot of work but neccesiary. As I am interested only and only in right predictions.
Only the right rule is relevant. From whome, that is irrelevant.

[banefranco]

Sorry I have forgotten, I also wrote the source where Mercury is in fall in Leo you have it in my post,
Marion March and Joan McEvers, so these days were perfect for that check in tennis.
There are some diferences for Mercury as well. I have found some logical explanations for that so I use it. The same is for any other planet position. I perform checks whenever are possible.
I perform a long check for planet's speed at this moment I do not trust to anyone without check.
I use slightly different table for speed than the speed values you can find in books. There is more...a lot more.

[banefranco]

I still check tennis matches and here are phases I found usefull for right prediction
I take all informations from http://tennis.wettpoint.com/, all player's birth data, all matches they played from the start of professional carrier.
As I do not use horary technique becouse I want to predict all matches starting at the same time, at the same day, at the same place or all tennis matches at the same day, I use player's natal charts and transits. I hope I do not have to explain this. But what misses. The birth time. You have two options if it is unknown. One is to take 12:00 as birth time what can produce lucky guess, but some astrologers uses that way. I have bad expirience so I do not use it. The other way is to do rectification method to get the birth time. Now, I use software JIGSAW not becouse it is the best but it is just correct for me. I think that many astrology software has rectification like option. Choice is yours.
What happened to me when I calculated the main events ( winning matches or tournaments )? I recived information od several 100% birth times. How is it possible? It is and when there are several suggested birth times you must do the same is you got just one 100%. You must check through predictions of several past matches ( try not to see final score at the list of matches , the best way is to ask someone to read from list all data except the score).
That is checking the right birth time. If check fails you leave that player for a while). You must do the same check for as much players as you can. I am sure that at least 20-30 first ranged players will have the right time.
I made a table of first 100 players and have 90 with potentially right birth time. I spent a lot of time (several months) but I do the same as for soccer, many matches to check before definite decision.
Now, when I have all data for both players in the match I make BEWHEEL (inner as natal positions and outer with transit positions of the planets of course). I do not compare who is stronger but whose aspect from natal chart is activated by passing appropriated transit planet. In short this is the whole story. Almost.
As you can se there are no event charts. Yes, sometimes you can predict tennis match with event chart but I think that it is just with enormous quantity of luck. More over I am sure that with horary technique you cannot predict more than one match in several hours. Explanation is simple.

[bardevolved]

Hi benefranco,

I could not find the birth details of players from the link provided by you

www.freeblogin.com (http://www.freeblogin.com)

[banefranco]

Klik the link when it opens at the left side of the main page is vertical menu, find ATP PLAYERS button and klik on it and voila...... you are on the side wher is man player's archive. You have two options to search the player by first letter of his surname or to enter the player's name in the PLAYER SEARCH field. I suggest to type the name in the search field whenever possible instead of search the name by first letter.

[banefranco]

If you have problems with software JIGSAW I will help becouse it is not ''so'' friendly made. But that is the old program. Anyway do the recification metod in software you use already if it has that option.

[bardevolved]

Hi Bene

I have a few questions over tennis....as per your experience color and jf methods do not work

then is it possible to calculate natal vs tranist of players ? If yes then what houses and house lords to be conisdered

2ndly where to find accurate birth data, time and place of birth of players

[banefranco]

:biggrin:, it seems you always ask difficult questions.
First of all :happy: you can use horary technique in any kind of predictions but I do not use it that way just becouse it cannot make results in a quantity I want, what means I cannot predict all matches starting at the same time at the same place.
I really got right predictions also in tennis when I made the event charts and used planets rulers from natal charts of tennis players envolved in one match. But I also had misses. Unfortunatelly I do not have constant results.
The next try is when I used natal charts with transits to compare the activated aspects and their qualities between two players. For that you must have exact birth times for players what is possible to be found only for 4 players. I could not find more and I tried to use rectification method to get birth times for more players. Now I have database for about 80 players but these data need to be checked, that is another problem. The TIME.
Anyway I tried to predict yesterday's match between Djokovic - Federer and I failed. And you have birth data for those players on net. I still cannot annouce working method for tennis but I definitely will not use Horary here, simply becouse I want method which works without my daily moods :biggrin: or ''understanding'' astrology :wink:. The method which can be used by anyone even by those not so much dedicated to this science.When using transits that is as I see the question of aspect which is activated from natal by transiting planet but there are some questions about it what if no aspects are activated what then? :sad: And how to make list by strength aspects which is the strongest. What to say I do have results by various techniques but not constant results, something still misses. I will not stop until I find it. It is just the matter of TIME.:biggrin:.
But in individual sports I am sure there are no jerseys envolved, no ''kings'', the next question will be what about doubles in tennis or doubles mix. Let it stay for another time.
I think I explained which software I used for some actions here also the sites I contacted for informations about birth data and carrier data.

[bardevolved]

Hi Bene,
Thanks a lot for the exlanatory answer....You have been a great guide and mentor...

Well i love to ask questions as i feel without solving the qwuestions i can not progress...so i have one more question...pls

I would like to know a website name which covers all the tennis matches...i foud a site called tennis.com, its is not up to the mark...my concern is about the actual local time and venue of each tennis match..can you pls help

[Wames]

Anyway I tried to predict yesterday's match between Djokovic - Federer and I failed. And you have birth data for those players on net.

It was really a tough match to predict even without any astro charts. Djokovic didn't have a quarterfinal matchup so he had 4 days off between matches. That kind of break in routine really cost him. Plus the wind and the crowd against him (I expected that), he had an uphill battle. The real Djok didn't show up until the 3rd set. At that point it was almost too late, Fed's wicked (in a good way) serving day delivered the final blows...game-set-match. I was afraid that was going to happen.

Anyway, I'll keep this astro-related. I have 2 questions:

Do you have Maria Sharapova's time of birth? I can't find it.

Do you have an astro prediction for the Rafa/Fed final?

[DreamingTheSeas]

Maybe Federer for today, Nadal is a Gemini born in second decan which Solar Eclipse of 2 June hit.

Dont take my thoughts seriously because my knowledge is zero.

[bardevolved]

Can anyone let me know what is the match time Nadal vs federer

l would like to know where can i find the local time of the match

[banefranco]

Well, that is perfect that there are more of you interested in tennis predictions. It does not matter if anyone is not perfect in any field of any science but it is of great help to have WILL TO MAKE THINGS WORK or let say DESTINED TO.... Now, some answers: www.tennis.wettpoint.com is really the site I recommend. About times of play I would do two things : 1) If I do not like to guess about time zone I would simply send an email to that site how they present time of match (any match) or I would go to the main site of any tournament where start time can be found as local time. That time is for making the astro chart, local time only for event. The times at the site www.tennis.wettpoint.com are not local times, they are CET times. That can make some confuses but than you have TIME CALCULATOR at www.timeanddate.com. Use it, it is helpfull. Anyway if anyone has some doubts place the question about tennis here ( and do not expect immediate answer :biggrin: ).
I have only birth times for man tennis players so for women tennis you must wait.
I have some informations about Djokovic other than sports but I am absolutely sure that all informations I can get from the astro chart. That was my problem I was not good enough to make right prediction.
I was leasy a little bit to try to make prediction for todays mens final.
But as I am FAN of Rafael Nadal I hope that Rafa will win :biggrin:.

[banefranco]

Vamos Rafa - The Genuine Gemini. Won French Open, Roland Garros 2011.

[adypric]

jupiter in taurus : for federer that is leo is in 10 house of fame in transit but for nadal is in 12 house a cadent house ;and nadal won ;that means that sun in gemini in transit on natal sun at nadal chart is more powerful that jupiter in 10 house in transit for federer;but maybe is at 0 degree in taurus ;i wiil think and in the future (1 year) i think that federer will win wimbledon and he will return to first place in atp ....because that jupiter .

[banefranco]

At this moment I try to make the table which compares some data between two player's chart. I will envolve some advices and observations from you, Adypric, like antiscions of Moon and POF. And that would be a miracle if we can make the list of aspect's strength and transit influences to those aspects. I would not include Mercury as the fast planet just the Moon to represents the game and the rulership. I have no idea why should I include Dispositor of the Moon or POF, I think that there are no substitutes. E.g. My girlfriend cannot play my tennis match on my behalf. BTW I would not let her under all costs :tongue:.

[banefranco]

Well as I agree with Adypric about explanation Nadal-Federer is there anyone who can present transit charts of Djokovic and Federer where Djokovic Lost. If there is no aspects in Djokovic chart like in Nadal's might be that there is a point why Jupiter in Federers house is in that case stronger.
We have no time so share the work becouse Wimbledon or Queen's are not so for and might be some right usefull predictions :happy:

[banefranco]

Ok, There is the chart for Djokovic

[banefranco]

Antiscions of The Moon and POF are also interesting.

[banefranco]

First impresum : His Sun opposing POF what happens during the game.

[banefranco]

I will try to present some charts with birth times of players I would like to check also
The match was at 14 July 2010 in Bastad
So you can compare these two charts I hope I do not have to explain.
My comment is that Almagro has MC over the SUN (that is his SUN) and also ASC point over Moon.
At Soderling charts there are no such aspects, they passed.
Almagro won.
If you have some opinions I would be thankfull.
I also would like to verify these two birth times as correct.

[bardevolved]

most difficult thing about tennis is the time of play......yes as frawly rightly said ......i have been experienced the same.....

[banefranco]

You can try with the first matches that start daily at one tournament, they are always at the same time. Also check weather report for that area.
But without clear birth time....:unsure: .

[bardevolved]

Thanks for the information

[bricecooke]

It is difficult to discover the thoughts that explain how excellent Roger Federer has been throughout his illustrious profession. To me, the concern is: What can not he do?? His adaptability is amazing and it pushes his competitors mad because they are considering more about him than their own activity. Federer is able to study the soccer tennis ball and know exactly where it will leap and whether it is hit smooth or with whirl and the height/direction. His completing injections are some of the best ever, his preliminary response is something you cannot show, and he is a expert with putting his provide using the same actual throw.

[paneagle7]

In sports, using locations charts has proven unsuccessful for many. The system of using the solar harmonics may prove otherwise. Even if no system without birth time or exact signs is chancy. The chart of game is only part of solution, and players, managers, or stadium weigh in. A system must have some accurate points to use. These are more likely
to be counted upon.

I use the player sun degree or location points of degrees of team or city.
In any sport, the specific known certain data can be compared. I know sometimes a player will have a challenge and a negation, or two players or teams will both often have positives, and be a hard choice. But if one specific exact point, it can be highly counted on.

example super bowl - 2008 and 2012 the harmonic for MVP manning was in same position both times. capricorn 60th harmonic. this is the sol zodiac and sol sign system (paneagle) of solastrology blogspot. the 60x harmonic was in taurus as was jupiter this past weekend. mcilroy won (born 5-4) and became number 1 in world.

example this past week - Djokovic loses - Neptune square his sun in gemini. A perfect display of unusual event.

today in soccer using locations - besiktas sp lisbon bilbao(upset? or draw) fc twente and standard liege, also valencia and alkmaar each have a highlight place point.

i like taurus players during today. in golf also the gemini keegan bradley
has an exact.

in tennis - women johansson, brianti, - men have f. gil
closer challenges delic with sela but aries sela prevalent.
devoest vs golubev - smyczek is challenged thihs month and year.

lets see how these do.

[banefranco]

Ok I share your idea but I have some questions. How would you know ''the sun degree'' of any tennis player without birth data?
About team sports I have the other opinion I can say is proved. No managers, no players, no coach, no fans, no referee. Coordinates of the place for the match are important but not at the cases like superbowls becouse that is one match at the time.
Definitely ''event'' charts in many complicate cases are not enough. They can be used for ''clear'' and ''easy'' charts or in Horary method. As it is also clear that Horary method can predict only one match at the time and then we must wait several hours to make the samo type of question. I do not say if it works. I say if all astrologers gave the chance to any astrological method, like Horary,for centuries, I would kindly ask just for ten years to make definite rules for mine :).
About Djokovic. He lost the match against Federer last year and that can be compared to other matches aginst other players when Djokovic won.
I have the idea for tennis predictions but I am looking for someone who would use my list of first 80 players in men competition with rectificated birth times I made to check with compartment of two charts for one match. Or if that list is of some help ask for it I would rather place it here for check. Some updates are probably needed about rankings or deleting some data, let say. I do not have the time to chek, to predict all of sports.
This last superbowl finished just like rulers changed. It presents what is the most important in any sport- The TIME any match lasts.

[paneagle7]

....please EXCUSE CAPS FOR RESPONSES - here they are anyway...
and by way, notice most of my predicts for yesterday were right.

Ok I share your idea but I have some questions. How would you know ''the sun degree'' of any tennis player without birth data?
THE SUN DEGREE WILL BE CLOSE TO WITHIN 1!

About team sports I have the other opinion I can say is proved. No managers, no players, no coach, no fans, no referee. Coordinates of the place for the match are important but not at the cases like superbowls becouse that is one match at the time. I USE COORDINATES of TEAMS PLAYING. It works to a degree, in fact to the degree of the coordinates long and lat from greenwich, and By way- this is a valuable secret.
WE CAN BE CERTAIN OF ASPECTS of game time within 1 degree.

Definitely ''event'' charts in many complicate cases are not enough. They can be used for ''clear'' and ''easy'' charts or in Horary method. As it is also clear that Horary method can predict only one match at the time and then we must wait several hours to make the samo type of question. I do not say if it works. I say if all astrologers gave the chance to any astrological method, like Horary,for centuries, I would kindly ask just for ten years to make definite rules for mine :). PERHAPS right, IT TOOK ME 40 YEARS RESEARCH. have worked through many pitfalls. However, 1 year of focus this year S/B ENOUGH. good luck.

About Djokovic. He lost the match against Federer last year and that can be compared to other matches aginst other players when Djokovic won.
I have the idea for tennis predictions but I am looking for someone who would use :happy: GOOD. But Djokovic did have a close neptune square sun, and he did lose to Murray this time, not federer, a higher quality player.
Murray a taurus had benefic jupiter and 60x jupiter also in his favor.

I made to check with compartment of two charts for one match. Or if that list is of some help ask for it I would rather place it here for check. Some updates are probably needed about rankings or deleting some data, let say. I do not have the time to chek, to predict all of sports. TIME IS KEY, SO PICK MATCHES OR LIST ALL AVAILABLE, THEN CHOOSE BEST.

This last superbowl finished just like rulers changed. It presents what is the most important in any sport- The TIME any match lasts. AHA. SUPER BOWL...The QB MANNING had the key 60th harmonic each win in 08 and 12, same position, 10 capricorn, near the sun degree. It surely was exact near end of game and just after. NYGiants WON.

AS FOR MATCHES DECIDED ON FIELD, well physically this may be true, but lets face it, the stars are hardly on the field, and yet, we know better. The inner attitude of the players involved is key. The winner attitude wins. Overcome resistance, for upsets occur. - especially on friday which is money day and the more attention of society and gamblers involved, the more chance of upsets riding on them.

SPEED OF ASPECT - I provide this clue also. The speed of any aspect will show its strength. For instance, a 60x sun moves pretty quick, 3 degrees an hour. The moon 1 degree in 2 hours, and so on. Some degrees sit for longer periods. For example, Mercury retrograde station at 6 aries 48 will be a good one for some aries, and for middle degrees of taurus, like Rory mcilroy who is getting big publicity now. Mercury does not translate to winners like jupiter can, but it can. That jupiter is in taurus means combination of both for Mcilroy for example.

I WILL CHECK YOUR LIST AND USE IT. That is really a benefit equal to the sharing here.

[paneagle7]

STAR POINTS - players with exact aspects of benefics, and/or against teams with a negated such as pluto, saturn.

on the matches thursday.
listed won most matches especially soccer. Anyone following would have had a great day. lisbon bilbao fc twente, valencia, alkmaar all won.
(standard liege was tie).
golf k. bradley won his matchup.
tennis - f gil won. sela won. smycek lost as predicted.
brianti lost also by 1. golubov won also although I did not state it.

2 errors could be accounted for - besiktas was dog against atl madrid,
and although they had a STAR POINT, this was not a clear choice.
brianti lost by 1 and was the 1 pick favored that did not work out.

The johannson tennis loss vs sweepers, who also had a STAR POINT
and made this cautionary choice. please excuse me as I sometimes miss points and with the data being used, this is not surprising. it takes some time.

best; pan
solastrology.blogspot.com
lovesigns7.blogspot.com

[banefranco]

Ok here is the table I hope it will be of some help.

[paneagle7]

Ok here is the table I hope it will be of some help.
I unzipped it, although I have most birthdates.
rectification is useful, and thankful for it if done.
I don't know tennis too well.

I have marked friday Istomin georges christina mchale llodra
v king and zheng with sweeting or leo mayer or azarenka possible upset

berlocg if favored in match
c. navarro upset although vs. pennetta who is under chiron conjunction makes her fav.

strongest signs are 9 to 13 libra and 23 taurus or 16-20 cancer 9 taurus 4 aries 10 scorpio 20 cancer 21 gemini 12 virgo degrees.

generally against any libra or capricorn especially 9-11cap and 18 or 28 libra

If you have technique to check matches and confirm, could prove
interesting control factor.

[MaeMae]

what does it take to play tennis on a floating platform on the open sea?
waterproof balls.
(and a strong mars neptune)
~ sorry ~ carry on

[banefranco]

If you check transits for both players than there is no problem if this works as compartment. :). For me, first problem is to have clear birth data, than, we can see how to use it.

[paneagle7]

If you check transits for both players than there is no problem if this works as compartment. :). For me, first problem is to have clear birth data, than, we can see how to use it.

clearly coming at this from different angles

Parlay method

yesterday I played this combination -
Tennis WTA Indian Wells - 4512 Yanina Wickmayer -700 for Game Tennis WTA Indian Wells - 4520 Christina McHale -275 for Game Tennis WTA Indian Wells - 4525 Vera Zvonareva -450 for Game Tennis WTA Indian Wells - 4529 Jie Zheng -170 for Game Tennis ATP Indian Wells - 4068 Grigor Dimitrov -180 for Game Tennis ATP Indian Wells - 4070 Denis Istomin -210 for Game Tennis ATP Indian Wells - 4083 Nikolay Davydenko -450 for Game Tennis ATP Indian Wells - 4116 Marcos Baghdatis -210 for Game. each had a conjunct to the sun from a position of note, sun, moon jupiter or harmonics of them.

EXACTNESS - exact is best, but close is good. If we approximate the sun to 1 degree or so, it is enough to be able to count because we know the player will have that exact aspect either within the hour up to the day and so as example a jupiter 60th harmonic will occur close to date of event, meaning the player or team enjoys savoring good fortune sometime in that period. It may not always be a victory (could be interview or in spotlight) but usually it means positive if aspect is positive.

In games above, only loss was wickmayer. all others won. Wickmayer I had not noticed is under saturn conjunction born 10-20. Her sun is about 28 libra, although it is true exact degree is not sure. (rather stupid of me to miss) - but wickmayer with moon in 12th house in libra for her solar chart, also a weak spot. The moon in 1, 2 or 5 house is a better placement.

BET strategy - Any player who played these each as solo bets plus the parlay, would still win overall nicely. Overall, if you think parlay teams are going to win, most of them win, even if lose the overall parlay.

APPLY aspects - if the aspects apply, there is much better than 'fading'. this is important point.

Today as roma in soccer. kohlscriber tennis and perhaps gasquet A LATE Gemini, mardy fish, perhaps GOLF mark wilson although aspect is past conjunct. - intuitive for berdych.

DEGREES signs favor gemini late degrees and also 22 cancer, 21 pisces birthdate, 13 scorpio, 6 pisces, 24 virgo and 16 virgo.

TIME OF PLAY method - When we choose to bet, TIME OF BET we can use his own chart to make predictions. That is the horary method of choice. One can use the good aspects and more likely win on those dates, playing the contests of their choice. I've noticed I am especially accurate when the positions favor by aspect to my rising, sun, or moon sign especially, or also the positive aspects if exact and especially conjunctions to midheaven, rising, sun moon or other benefics.

any clues to tennis matches today from you guys?
- p.s I will disappear from this thread if sports players do not respond with some insights or use of the techniques and results.

best; p

[paneagle7]

what does it take to play tennis on a floating platform on the open sea?
waterproof balls.
(and a strong mars neptune)
~ sorry ~ carry on
I would say the answer is "Balls of CLAY".

[paneagle7]

If you check transits for both players than there is no problem if this works as compartment. :). For me, first problem is to have clear birth data, than, we can see how to use it.

BY way of note on PLUTO - Pluto can be sign of benefic action in the conjunction for example of its harmonics to a sun - pluto can be a winner sometimes such as yesterday pluto in 60th harmonic favored a capricorn Toms in golf, even though one would think pluto against him. But saturn may also benefit at times, in the case of a team with a strong defense in football or soccer for example. But saturn to tennis player wickmayer was a loss to her sun a -700 favorite went down. meaning - saturn more often malefic. but no sign is always predicted in its common fashion.
here is where the intuitive comes in, to resolve which effect will be the prominent. (and so, practice makes perfect)

spirit principle - I think this derives from the principle why the spirit may even enable an evil, as it will, if the person is using the aspect or the spirits energy or principle for some gain. spirit is neutral to its use, and fits into the person's direction. It may not be right, but it is how it is - because this world is a polarity. contest or competition is a polarity always. often two teams will have strengths, and then the stronger team usually prevails even if the other team is under a benefic too.

The harmonics are much more important than most anyone realizes out there. The answer being 'it is in here, the inner pluto or sun, as much as the outer. here we human beings must realize, a part of god and a part of the physical go together, the spirit in man makes us humans. all the while, in astrology, the balance comes, and players run in cycles, so when we find the cycle point, one day they win, and the next match the point is no longer there for them and they lose.

[acuariano0377]

hello people!
the easiest way to see a champion without having the charts natal is to look at the chart debut in the tournament. What I do in tennis is looking at the chart debuts of the best players and evaluate which is the best chart debut.
For example:
Djokovic's debut at the U.S. Open was the August 30, 2011 at 15:00 in new york.
ASC 19°09' Sagitarius
MC 10°28' Libra

What I do is look at ASC and MC and their rulers and the POF and antiscia and Node.

In the chart debut of Nole, ASC lord Jupiter is trine Venus partile MC lord that's a strong testimony of success. Jupiter is in trine to the POF and Node and the POF antiscion in conjunction to the ASC.

There was no better chart that :)

Regards!

[paneagle7]

hello people!
the easiest way to see a champion without having the charts natal is to look at the chart debut in the tournament. What I do in tennis is looking at the chart debuts of the best players and evaluate which is the best chart debut.
For example:
Djokovic's debut at the U.S. Open was the August 30, 2011 at 15:00 in new york.
ASC 19°09' Sagitarius
MC 10°28' Libra

What I do is look at ASC and MC and their rulers and the POF and antiscia and Node.

In the chart debut of Nole, ASC lord Jupiter is trine Venus partile MC lord that's a strong testimony of success. Jupiter is in trine to the POF and Node and the POF antiscion in conjunction to the ASC.

There was no better chart that :)

Regards!
I appreciate this note - as moon in sag was conjuncting in sagittarius as you wrote this to djokovic NY date - confirms this a likely positive suggested method.

[acuariano0377]

I appreciate this note - as moon in sag was conjuncting in sagittarius as you wrote this to djokovic NY date - confirms this a likely positive suggested method.

Good observation! Are you a very good astrologer ;)
I've used this method for over two years and so far has not failed me.

Regards!

[acuariano0377]

Ok here is the table I hope it will be of some help.

Fantastic! I always thought that David Nalbandian had fallen on to Mars at some angle of your natal chart. He likes racing and has a rally team. And also have fallen into the ASC malefico I can understand because they never win a GS.

Banefranco, the birth time I have of DelPotro is 11:06 pm, I gave a friend but
we'll see which works chart when Jupiter transits through Gemini.

When Jupiter is in Gemini should give very good results DelPotro , Murray and Roger.
Andy Murray has also in the next SR the Sun-Jupiter conjunction, I am sure to win any GS. It can be Wimbledon or U.S. Open.

Regards!

[paneagle7]

Good observation! Are you a very good astrologer ;)
I've used this method for over two years and so far has not failed me.

Regards!
answer - 40 years astrologer.

on your technique ? you used djokovic NY but that was his first match, meaning he plays well in NY, or will he succeed in career - 2) how do you use this to determine present match development and choice to win today or in other locale such as present tournament? do you study any progressions from the original start chart? (progressions are valid use
with 1 degree segments such as day for year)

3) I noticed djokovic neptune square sun during last tourne loss to murray. How did you find djokovic or other players on last tournament or this present one. tonight djokovic most interesting uranus 30x is opposite his sun from sagittarius - thinking win.
any 1st match insights or horary on this?

I am looking at tonight doubles match - frystenburg and matkowski vs lopez and nadal. frystenburg july 8 will have 60x sun close to his sun at 10pm est (3 hours after match begins). Only player with a marker so I choose his team.
any horary or insights of charts of original 1st match on site ???

nalbandian jan 1 born has pluto near conjunction. upset tsonga yesterday, but clearly pluto conjunct can be trouble with change in lifestyle for tiger woods and lebron james sports stars and others in area of capricorn suns.

[banefranco]

Fantastic! I always thought that David Nalbandian had fallen on to Mars at some angle of your natal chart. He likes racing and has a rally team. And also have fallen into the ASC malefico I can understand because they never win a GS.

Banefranco, the birth time I have of DelPotro is 11:06 pm, I gave a friend but
we'll see which works chart when Jupiter transits through Gemini.

When Jupiter is in Gemini should give very good results DelPotro , Murray and Roger.
Andy Murray has also in the next SR the Sun-Jupiter conjunction, I am sure to win any GS. It can be Wimbledon or U.S. Open.

Regards!

If you are sure in that birth time that is great. I think that the problem in tennis is how to compare players when you do not have data to compare. I am courious.....

[acuariano0377]

answer - 40 years astrologer.

on your technique ? you used djokovic NY but that was his first match, meaning he plays well in NY, or will he succeed in career - 2) how do you use this to determine present match development and choice to win today or in other locale such as present tournament? do you study any progressions from the original start chart? (progressions are valid use
with 1 degree segments such as day for year)

3) I noticed djokovic neptune square sun during last tourne loss to murray. How did you find djokovic or other players on last tournament or this present one. tonight djokovic most interesting uranus 30x is opposite his sun from sagittarius - thinking win.
any 1st match insights or horary on this?

I am looking at tonight doubles match - frystenburg and matkowski vs lopez and nadal. frystenburg july 8 will have 60x sun close to his sun at 10pm est (3 hours after match begins). Only player with a marker so I choose his team.
any horary or insights of charts of original 1st match on site ???

nalbandian jan 1 born has pluto near conjunction. upset tsonga yesterday, but clearly pluto conjunct can be trouble with change in lifestyle for tiger woods and lebron james sports stars and others in area of capricorn suns.

this technique in this specific case of Nole in the U.S. Open i used to predict who will be the champion of the tournament in Singles. For Doubles I look debut chart with your couple.
Rafa, Roger, Murray and Delpotro did not have a chart debut chart than Nole.
For each tournament that begins I look debut of the best players. (Roland Garros, Wimbledon, etc)

To evaluate the tennis year I look at the SR for each player, for example:
when looking at the SR 2011/2012 saw Rafa would have a bad year because Mars is lord of his asc in exile in Taurus and Saturn was square his natal Mars. If we look now retro Saturn transits square to his Mars will continue until you pass a Scorpio.
While viewing the 2011-2012 SR Roger and I saw Jupiter in square to his Sun also thought it would have a bad year.
Instead of the SR 2011-2012 Nole was very good, moon in trine applicative to your Sun and Jupiter transiting your Venus conjunction in the MC.

So I concluded that Nole would have better results in the period 2011-2012 by Solar on Rafa and Roger.

The technique chart debut also use it to predict how teams will fare Soccer (is the most popular sport in my country.)
For example:
Sabella is the coach of the national team of my country. Taking the day and hour of the match that he debuted as a coach I can evaluate how the team will fare. Here if we can use transits, lunar revolutions, SR.

About Nole and Neptune is a good observation.
I use ecplises. When it happened the last Sun's eclipse on November 25, 2011, Nole during last Masters loss to Tipsarevic . Sun's Eclipse was opposite his natal Sun.
The next solar eclipse will be on May 21 and will be above the sun of Nole, bad news for Roland Garros 2012 : (

Tsonga is the transit of Saturn opposite sun. That's not good for Tsonga.

What effect do you think will have pluton for Nalbandian?
I hope I expressed myself well, my English is not very good.

Regards!

[acuariano0377]

I think that the problem in tennis is how to compare players when you do not have data to compare. I am courious.....

Hi Bane franco!

there is a technique developed by the Spanish astrologer Carlos Carneado called "cusps fixed" but I'm not familiar with it yet. Mercedes Foronda astrology knows Spanish very well apply. She frequents forums in Spanish.

What I do is use the kit colors to the chart of a game. My problem is when they play Wimbledon because both players in white clothing : (

Regards!

[acuariano0377]

3) I noticed djokovic neptune square sun during last tourne loss to murray.

I remembered this today, paneagle7.

Federer defeated Delpotro .
Look Delpo : blue shirt and short like Neptune in Piscis.
Neptune is lowly, physical impairments as well as a remarkable apathy, laziness, loss of coordination.

Regards!

[CapAquaPis]

I'm about 2 miles from the Indian Wells Tennis Garden (the BNP-Paribas open) and came upon the thread. Neptune in Pisces "rigged" today's game. :andy: Awesome! :surprised: Tennis isn't my favorite sport, but can be fun to watch. Stargazing the tennis court (or any sports venue) and the skies, as they are both my favorite things.

[paneagle7]

my look at tennis today wednesday

stars are 11pm are 2aries , 27 taurus and 10 to 24 cancer
26 pisces, jupiter 11tau11, 11 aquarius and 5 leo
4aries22, 22 sag and uranus day is 11 leo
7 virgo and 4 gemini 2 taurus retro
saturn 27 libra 28 scorpio and 29 capricorn
pluto 9cap 27 libra and 13 cancer

the tennis matchups
exact degree to players sun
darcis pisces moon (upset?)
llodra taurus sun
clement sag not exact +4 degrees
rufin leo uranus
seppi neptune conjunct
f gonzalez leo uranus
czink libra saturn
gacon taurus jupiter apply
dulko aquarius jupiter
peer taurus mars
gadjosova mars taurus
parmentier aquarius jupiter
espinosa pluto scorpio
pervak gemini mars large favorite
hercog saturn capricorn




will look for results tomorrow

[paneagle7]

Fantastic!

Regards!

I wanted to confirm something else about your first match method and its apply. The players I chose for golf tournament matchups (4 days total) won, and I used the first date of tournement to predict if they would win against another player in the matchup listed on betting site. They did well in tournament and almost won matchup and some made final playoff. I think this speaks to confirm ORIGIN DATE of tournament and general method of FIRST date as the compelling principleof Astrology.

Do you bet on sports, acuriano, and if so, which ones, and what other methods or ideas would you share about that?

thank you
Pan

[acuariano0377]

Do you bet on sports, acuriano, and if so, which ones, and what other methods or ideas would you share about that?


Astrology should never be used for betting.
I have other methods. The'm trying ; )
I like to investigate : )

Regards!

[Aven]

Anyone have predictions for the winner of Wimbledon 2012 starting from Jul 25th ???

Thanks in advance,
Aven

[banefranco]

I think Federer to win, Murray can play very well.
There is another method and is in test phase.

[banefranco]

Acuariano, do not use kit colors for tennis it is useless. Transit charts of the player to coampare who has better aspects is relative right method becouse it depends on our personal feel. And above all it is not simple. The method must be simple. I will test the method which is simple one and place here some matches but in the next days.
I decided to find the method for tennis a working one and simple I hope it will be ok. If not I would lost a lot of time. But we will see.

[acuariano0377]

Acuariano, do not use kit colors for tennis it is useless. Transit charts of the player to coampare who has better aspects is relative right method becouse it depends on our personal feel. And above all it is not simple. The method must be simple. I will test the method which is simple one and place here some matches but in the next days.
I decided to find the method for tennis a working one and simple I hope it will be ok. If not I would lost a lot of time. But we will see.

Hi Bane!

Thanks for your advice! Many people using ASC= Favourite in tennis above in Wimbledon. But ... when a player is the favorite??

I like using Debut chart. I could not write for lack of time for my job but look chart debut of Roger and Murray for long-term predictions:

Chart Roger : 25 jun 2012 4:00 pm London (BST)
ASC 4°24 Scorpio
MC 16°32 Leo

Moon trine partile to POF.

Chart Murray: 25 jun 2012 5:54 pm London (BST)
ASC 25°10 Scorpio
MC 17°33 Virgo

Moon in 29° 48 Virgo, VOC and Degree of loss. Very bad.

Now, for predictions match by match, I dont know.... if i have natal chart of Players i can use daily chart . But I not have the charts of all players.

I hope for your method ...

Regards!

[banefranco]

It is not the problem I have at this moment list of 100 players with birth data and Natal Sun position and ASUN position so write me your email as PM and I will send to you or to wait until I make 150 today-tommorow.
This is for ATP for WTA will be completed in couple of days. :biggrin:

[acuariano0377]

Transit charts of the player to coampare who has better aspects is relative right method becouse it depends on our personal feel.
Yes, is true.
Andy Murray is in the current SR Jupiter conjunction sun. That is a promise of something great. I think that any GS win under that SR.


Regards!

[banefranco]

Bastad 11 Jul 2012 Hayek-Nieminen , Hayek to win.
Still test.

[banefranco]

Bastad 12 Jul 2012 Minar-Almagro , Almagro to win.
Still test

[banefranco]

Atlanta Jul 17 2012 Russel-Kuznetsov Russel to win.
Still in test phase.

Possibly Soeda will win the same day, possibly.

[banefranco]

Jul 18 2012 Hamburg Mayer-Haase Mayer to win.
If the match starts until 16:40.
Still test.

[banefranco]

July 19 2012 Hamburg 19:00 approx local time Almagro-Davydenko Almagro to win.

[banefranco]

Jul 20 2012 Carlsbad Radwanska-Cibulkova Cibulkova to win.
Still test phase.

[banefranco]

Jul 20 2012 Gstaad Tipsarevic-Hernych Tipsarevic to win.
Still test phase.

[banefranco]

Jul 21 2012 Gstaad Tipsarevic-Mathieu Tipsarevic to win
Still test phase

[paneagle7]

Jul 21 2012 Gstaad Tipsarevic-Mathieu Tipsarevic to win
Still test phase

so who do you think will win the final>
bellucci vs tipsarevic
what time is final match? and why?

thanks for decision.

[banefranco]

Sorry for late answer I noticed post lately. Anyway I avoided to place prediction for any match that day becouse of some new elements.
For Tipsarevic there were opposite informations according to the chart that is why there were no prediction. Bellucci won due to aspects.
I use this site for tournaments http://www.scorespro.com/tennis/.
The method is still in test so predicted matches are just in test phase.
No detailed information about method for now.

[banefranco]

Olympic games tournament
Jul 28 2012 Wimbledon Berdych-Darcis , Berdych to win
Isner-Rochus, Isner to win
Troicki-Almagro Almagro to win
It is still test phase. :).

[acuariano0377]

Olympic games tournament
Jul 28 2012 Wimbledon Berdych-Darcis , Berdych to win
Isner-Rochus, Isner to win
Troicki-Almagro Almagro to win
It is still test phase. :).

And Tipsarevic-Nalbandian? What you think? This chart debut is very good for a medal ; )

Regards!

[banefranco]

I can say Tipsarevic to win but he has one conflicting aspect so I cannot say, If that aspect works Nalbandian is to win. There is inconjunction between Natal Sun by Tipsarevic and event Nort Node by two degrees aplying.

[banefranco]

It is ok Berdych is my mystake.

[banefranco]

Jul 29 2012 Olympic Tournament
1. Fognini-Djokovic Djokovic to win
2. Wawrinka - Murray A. Murray A. to win
3. Hewitt - Stakhovsky Hewitt to win
4. Kohlschreiber - Kavcic Kohlschreiber to win

[banefranco]

Always check weather for locality where match is played.

[banefranco]

Jul 31 2012
Ferrer-Kavcic Ferrer to win

Low risk predictions
Roddick-Djokovic Djokovic to win
Tsonga-Raonic Tsonga to win

High risk

Williams - Wozniak Wozniak to win

[banefranco]

2 Aug 2012
Federer - Isner Federer to win

[puljac]

Pitty, this thread is dead, only Franco wants to help :) Pozdrav susjedu.

p.s. Franco šteta što više ne održavaš predikcije za sportove na svom site-u.

Anyway, the tennis predictions are interesting.

There are 2 players, 2 birth dates, 2 birth locations, longitudes of the match, time of the match (if it says 17:00 they should begin in 15-20 minutes cause of warming up, choosing sides...) 50% vs 50% of win/lose --- but what system should we use ? transits every 45 minutes ? I'm total newbie in astrology, so sorry if i make any terminology mistake...

[banefranco]

Yes I am very rare here but I have to announce that actually with sports astrology and with working sistem is over. What else just to prove that it works exactly with any sport. So I asked for some informations about teams in NBA and some other sports just to prove that it works. Even more this method for tennis is the primary one not my system for soccer but that system for soccer is at this moment the easiest one. So when I publish the book for individual sports competitions the global sports system will be announced. Let me say something : Everything is under the SUN.Thiss message is in Nostradamus manner :). But how to use it that is the system.
In the mean time I would be greatful to anyone who finds exact dates for teams in NBA together foundation and franchise date, so that we can predict that competition also. It is possible without that but need a lot of time.
So I will continue to place predictions for soccer but what is need to be analyzed ? Just some aspects within the system not the system itself so it is not the Q wether it works or not.
At this moment I finish the book with short stories and it will take some time but place your chart and discuss about them using my system. Anyway the Range table misses here but that is in my book so......without that it is little bit complicated to make own table. But I gave the way how to do that. Or to order the book. :)

[puljac]

and i can buy book where ? :)

[banefranco]

I sent PM to you.:smile:

[banefranco]

Anyway, the tennis predictions are interesting.

There are 2 players, 2 birth dates, 2 birth locations, longitudes of the match, time of the match (if it says 17:00 they should begin in 15-20 minutes cause of warming up, choosing sides...) 50% vs 50% of win/lose --- but what system should we use ? transits every 45 minutes ? I'm total newbie in astrology, so sorry if i make any terminology mistake...

Ok this is not real help but sort of it. So my answer is YES you are right. You have to use two birth charts but transit to Natal aspects which you do not compare with theirs strength ( there are no such compartment predictor make conclusion according to exact external information )and also event chart of the match. Check only matches with known exact time of the beginning or with some delay according to some aspects which will not change due to that delay. In any case transit to Natal aspects are only to prove what we find in the event chart of the match .
And again the time needed for prediction is like in soccer, not more than three minutes. More or less. My best is about 4-5 :smile:. When all aspects would be explained than it would be quite possible to make software which can do prediction in one minute. But even in this case it is quite comortable to do that without appropriate software.
I am glad that I proved again that anyone can make prediction and that there are no stupid or clever astrologers. :smile:

[banefranco]

Let me say something. When you make the Natal chart for any player you use ''TRUE NOON'' method where you do not have birth time as you do not have it in more than 90 %. I do have two tables about birth informations for more than 250 ATP players and also the same for WTA players. You can also use rectification method for closer birth time to the right birth time but that is not necessary . I have it also for about 100 ATP but I do not use it.

[banefranco]

Oh, this is very important. You MUST check the weather at some of weather report sites or yourself from the event chart of the match. That is crucial. The way is much simpler than the astrologycal method how to predict weather. in known way.

[puljac]

Thank you for your answers Franco.

I will follow you on facebook and order your book for extra value on astrology examples.

Sadly for me i began to research transits and influences on humans no more then 2 months (well obviously path of my life hide that from me till now) ago but i was stunned when i make some charts of the players, set transits 10 minutes before match start and find what planets had influence on them through the match.

Even when odds are in favor on some player, the "stars" said no,no the player will lose today.

My mainly method was (you are wright):

1. Birth date of players (true noon 12) - cause of NO birth time

2. 1st player birthdate set in transit for time of the match

3. Sun influence, moon influence, mars influence, jupiter and saturn influence on player 1

- by influnce i mean (sextile, conj, square, trine)
- i didnt use minor

4. Then i do influences with player 2

5. Compare influences between 2 players

Well i stuck here :-)

Where to put weather conditions ?
Any other planet to observe?
What orb (1, 2, 3 degrees)
Am i even at all on the wright path?

Puf puf

[banefranco]

Ok now the short explanation about the ODDS. What are the ODDS. ODDS are different way of understanding the world around us. Astrologers have opposite criteria so for us, ODDS are useless. Odds represent many qualities in one value, they show expected winner what happens many times. But astrologers have signs that can show the winner not the favourite. In any aspect of life. That is our adventage.
So forget the ODDS.
TR POF conjuncts TR SUN is the ultimate sign for winner. TR POF conjuncts Na SUN also ultimate sign for winner. Which one is stronger? POF conjuncts Na SUN. These aspects are ultimate. POF is ultimate. POF opposes SUN - LOSE. Moon is for the game but you have to take care. Uranus app conjunction to Sun both Tr that SUN loses. Uranus separating more than 3 degrees SUN wins. Pluto conjuncts Sun - wins.You do not need any other planet in transit charts. That is all. But the Q is how to use match event chart :smile: ? Generally match event chart is the most important not transit-natal charts which are less important.
I explained weather prediction at my other thread for team sports about that book. See the last pages.:smile:

[puljac]

Thank you again.

In my stars is written: "First learn ABC astrology, then ask Q about predictions." :)

I hope i will be able to learn of quality read natal/transit chart and to quick calculate POF. It will take time....

thanks again.

[banefranco]

Ok let us make all the things as much simple as it is possible.
Today you have astrological software so you do not have to learn many things you had to do in the past times. Do not worry you will not be worse astrologer. So you can make transit to natal charts in any better program. What and how to look? You will watch it in dynamic mode what means to turn the the transit chart in time. You use slower movement and changing in minutes. Not seconds and especially not hours for any match. Then you see two circles. Inner circle is Natal chart and outer circle is transit chart now watch aspects and aspects outer planets make to natal planets are relation TR - NA and aspects planets ( all space bodies ) make within outer circle are TR - TR If this is clear, you just have to watch not to miss any important aspect like TR POF to NA SUN that is POF in OUTER CIRCLE to the SUN in INNER CIRCLE. No big deal as you see.
To start to predict you just need to know several things: The symbols of the planets, the signs,the houses and the aspects. You do not care for explanation what each aspect means just WIN or LOSE. So I use SOLAR FIRE GOLD astrology software. This is when you use the system for the individual sports and also for team competition but not for leagues competitions just becouse that is almost useless becouse you cannot get some data for teams compete in leagues especially for soccer.
For soccer and other leagues competitions you have to use my system for team sports with some other informations. Like placing teams and finding their rulers according to jerseys etc. Like using table of essential and accidental dignities. And the Range table. That deserves little bit more knowledge from astrology science but after some time you will make predictions in routine.
We all have some parts of any knowledge. More or less. Do not fear to present your level as do not fear to present your doubts. That is the best way to learn and the quickest also. Knowledge must be priceless just the TIME you spent. You ask I give you the answer I know but to place the system at this moment would mean that I have not given respect to the TIME I have spent. That is all. For any aspect I have got like aspect for wining that I mentioned in some past posts I took a lot of samples to be proven.
I hope that I ensured you that it is not so far to start to make predictions in sports. This level in Astrology science is like falling in love :smile:. You predict right first time you will be eager for more. That is the way to start this beautiful journey.

[banefranco]

Here is the information about my facebook sports page concerning tennis so
sometimes I do place predictions there. :smile:.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sports-Astrology-predictions-Tennis/158944974239563?bookmark_t=page

[acuariano0377]

Andy Murray is in the current SR Jupiter conjunction sun. That is a promise of something great. I think that any GS win under that SR.

Regards!

Those who fail are the astrologers.
The astrology never fails ; )

[banefranco]

19 Sep 2012 ATP Metz

Mahut-Brands, Mahut to win

[banefranco]

21 Oct 2012 ATP Basel

Federer-Chardy , Federer to win
Mayer F - Matosevic , Mayer to win

These two matches are in test phase concerning some new rules:


Klizan - Cilic , Cilic to win
Nieminen - Anderson - Anderson to win

Well just never forget, the question is also if the match starts on schedule also.
Anyway stay away from these two predictions and see what will happen.

[banefranco]

I left the match Mayer-Matosevic for today on 24 October 2012. just becouse it was possible to be on time but if the match delays one hour or more prediction can fail si I think that I placed my suggestion about this problem and how to solve it:
It is recommended to predict only first matches at anu tournament becouse we can be nearly absolutely sure when matches start. For the rest it is also recommended to predict them for the relative time of beginning so when that time comes we can place bets. Or live betting at the very beginning of the match in first five minutes. There is no other option.

[banefranco]

06 Nov 2012 London
Ferer-Del Potro, Ferer to win

[Jibreil]

Whats your prediction for Roger Federer vs Ferrer & Murray vs Tsonga, though it looks one-sided, but astrology has it's answers.

[banefranco]

I checked some soccer matches yesterday so sometimes I predict some sports and publsih not all of them always. :smile:. There are plenty of matches per day in any sport. But Federer was sure winner and Tipsarevic played with illness so it was very clear outcome.

[Jibreil]

I checked some soccer matches yesterday so sometimes I predict some sports and publsih not all of them always. :smile:. There are plenty of matches per day in any sport. But Federer was sure winner and Tipsarevic played with illness so it was very clear outcome.

Thank you for your kind response, would appreciate if you could share today's Tennis predictions as there are some big matches today.

Where do you predict Football matches?

[banefranco]

These threads concerning team sports and individual sports are mainly formed to present the valuable and effective systems in predicting sports outcomes. For team sports one system is presented at my other thread. The point with predictions was not to make everyday prediction but only when it was in the favour of the system. It is not real to expect predictions everyday by myself but can be also placed by others with comments and explanations. Finally the crutial decision for anyone is intention to make own predictions not to wait ready made.
System for team sports (not all ) for those who use their symbols using colored jerseys is able to be precise under some circumstances absolutely but not in any case. Why? Becouse the system can be upgraded, that is the matter of level in this field. As yow all can see there is no formula for DRAW prediction.
For individual sports there is another system and now is in test phase. The elements of the system will not be announced before the book about would be published. But public predictions are neccesiary becouse it is not the same when you do predictions at your home and always write I KNEW. No matter that tennis is in test phase misses are not allowed and there is certain pressure when you do public prediction. That is why the real challenge is public presentation.
I expect Murray to win tonight agains Tsonga.

Sometimes except here at astrologyweekly.com I use to give predictions at my pages at facebook.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sports-predictions-by-Franco/161730457189131?bookmark_t=page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sports-Astrology-predictions-Tennis/158944974239563?bookmark_t=page
http://www.facebook.com/sportastrotips?bookmark_t=page
It depends.

[Jibreil]

Thank you for your valuable input. May I ask what method or system do you use, as I use KP Astrology for cricket predictions - and would like to learn your method for Football & Tennis

[banefranco]

I started with personal question what determines the SIDES. Everything is represented with a symbol a person or group or thing or ...the rest :smile:. In the base that is THE CHART Natal or Group or Nation or Event or.....anything what is born. Everything has the CHART. Birth data care the Symbol, that Symbol in Soccer is the date when one club is founded or the jersey. I use wll known jerseys as information about the Symbol. You can also use the CREST of the club but that is for me very problematic to make decision so I do not use it as there are no explanations about Symbolic information in astrology about CRESTS in complete what means that you must separate the parts of one CREST. That is the long explanation for some other time. I use jerseys and it works for most team sports excluded NBA, Baseball. Becouse the wear jersesy made by human not natural rule. So it needs the time but without any doubts that will be predicted.
Now you place teams at 2 houses 1 and 7 opponents, you use my LIGHT TABLE to see which team according to jerseys is where according to what planet is the ruler of which house and what it represents with the quantity of reflecting light ( is it lighter or darker ). When you finish with that you count Essential and Accidental dignities od those rulers. So the rest you can find at my thread about the book of one englishman as my critics about the rules I found in that funny book about sports astrology. You cannot cut the stone with a knife if you cut tomato :smile:. He tried to use the same stuff but that is not real.
About tennis I will explain the system in my book at first for now it is possible to compare two transit charts of the players in one tennis match. The results are quite ok.

[acuariano0377]

Hi people!

Anyone have the chart of Thomas Berdych? I think that will be the surprise of AO2013

[banefranco]

I AM BACK :happy:
What are the news?
The thing is about individual sports. I am allowed to bring that information by my friends who helped me to find the base for this kinf of prediction and they are : Mrs. Neda Visic and Mr. Zile Lukic.
So let us get to the point.
When you want to predict one tennis match or any individual sport you have to be in a possesion of some informations. Those informations are as follows:
1. Birth date
2. Time of birth
3. Place of birth.
4. ATP or WTA tournament
5. Date when match starts
6. Time when match starts
From the first three informations we create Natal chart, according to this we know position of the Natal Sun of the players.
Then we create Transit charts for both players to see aspects to their Suns Transit to Natal or Transit to transit.
I will present all possible tables with many informations so after this introduction I expect questions at my other thread concerning tennis.
There are small differences when you treat aspects but in global everything is in the tables.
Now what is new actually and that is the point.
You make the chart of the beginning of the match, what you do:
Place the Suns of the players in that ''event chart'' on the same positions where they are located in their own Natal charts, now you have three Suns. But The Sun from the ''event chart'' is relevant like any other planet which makes some influences to theese imported player's Suns.
If there are no important aspects in their Transit charts , the winner can be predicting by simple position of the higher numbered house. Like this:
1-2 , the winner is the Player's Sun in the 2nd house
3-4 , the winner is the Player's Sun in the 4th house
5-6 , the winner is the Player's Sun in the 6th house
7-8 , the winner is the Player's Sun in the 7th house
etc.
I hope it is clear. Higher numbered house wins. If there are no significant aspect as you will find in the tables.
Not all of them are mentioned and also I do expect from you to explore more than this. There are many space for improvement.
What is most important? As you can find on the WWW not much players hav their complete birth data so you have to make rectification to find closest or exact birth time. That is hell of the job but if you are willing to predict the best you have to do this. I expect from any of you to place new completed data at my tennis thread and also suggest to you to inform others about player you are going to rectificate just due to avoiding duplicated work.
If you get two or more suggested birth times I will give you the idea. Look for their pictures , the first house in Natal chart always contains face explanation so you cannot miss the exact birth data. Face profiles according to rulers can be founded on the net.
Why exact birth date is important? Becouse you cannot locate Moon position in transit chart. Also Natal.
Now tables for tennis players are to large to be placed here so if you want them you can join my group for tennis
http://www.facebook.com/groups/144614935698459/#
If necessiary you can first send request for friendship
http://www.facebook.com/branislavfranco
Thank you all now it is your turn to make Q.

[banefranco]

Thisi is the post at my other thread and I do believe it is very useful information when making Tennis predictions.
Originally Posted by zarya http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/images/futura/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=454407#post454407)
this i great as i have been working with tennis matches for a while i have realized when a transit point of fortune makes good aspects at a particular point in time to one or more planets of an individuals chart that player does not loose game no matter what, although there are exceptions but almost nonexistant when the picture is clear, so you can have 40 15 for a serving player and odd of 6 or more for him to loose this game and he really does.

[banefranco]

20 Feb 2013 Marseille
Berdych - Gulbis , Berdych to win.

[banefranco]

21 Feb 2013 Memphis
Cilic - Sijsling , Cilic to win

[banefranco]

22 Feb 2013 ATP Marseille
Simon G - M. DelPotro , Del Potro to win

[banefranco]

My fault, sorry.

[banefranco]

23 Feb 2013 Marseille
Simon - Tsonga , Tsonga to win.

[banefranco]

Ok I will present the chart Raonic - Tsonga as you remember the prediction was given yesterday the post before this one.
So the short explanation how is it possible to make quick prediction iz like this
You have to make Natal chart of both players. Now, notice that Raonic has the position of his SO at 05 CA and Tsonga at 27 AR.
Minutes are less important. Now , create the event chart for the date and place these players had the match ant tha is presented chart. So use the pencil and signify the place at this chart positioned with 05 CA so that is Raonic in the Event chart with his SO. The same make with Tsonga SO. Now move the chart and look for aspects which will be made between the SO, MO, POF also UR and PL ( who uses outer planets ) of the event chart. You will notice some squares between ''event'' POF and players SO. The first was square Tsonga SO made but that happened before the match starts, anyway it was so close to the beginnig of the match that produced lost SET for Tsonga. So 3 SET were played. Now Look at the house where those players SO's are positioned , Tsonga's in the 11 and Raonic in the 7th.
SO who won? The player's SO in the higher numbered house. That is when there are no significant aspects in Natal charts but the event chart is more important in this compartment . There you have to find the proof for the events. Like in the nature what is more important the human or the surrounding. The surrounding dictate limits for the human. That is how the things work.
Ok what to watch also - THE PROCESSES each aspect is one simple process, which happens in TIME. Take care that only processes that are made during the match are important not any before not any later.
Now the processes are important like the TERMS for those processes. The terms are needed to be used in their basic meaning not any further complex.
That is like the difference between the street and the square. You have to watch them like ways. There is no end of the way . If it would be possible you can never enter to your house or to go out of it.
But that is the other story.
I would like that some people never have written the poems or novels. If you do not understand the TERM you can make the whole mass.
The chart is presented at my other thread and here will be presented lately.:surprised: