Worst marriage chart ever!

[Elansome]

I am getting married soon and I did not have the option of changing the time and the date. Any comments?

[Awakened_Pisces]

Ouch, Venus is outside of her rule of Taurus and Mars will regain some type of strength in Gemini. I also don't like Lilith in the 5th house and Mars-Venus squaring your Jupiter-Chiron. Then there's the Part of Fortune and the unfortunate 8th house.

Your right about it being a difficult chart. The difficulties however, may be beneficial for your long-term oversight regarding marriage partners(Juno in 7th).

[Frank]

If you don't have any control over it, don't worry about it.

[Elansome]

Thanks for the comments guys! I know what I have been into,which is actually makes sense! You can't get the perfect chart but the chart that you bound to have is indicating something. How amazing astrology is. Let me explain we can't have a baby that easily and the chart is actually indicating that. Ruler of 5th is on the ascendant opposing Uranus. Venus (my fertility) will be crushed on Saturn too! As awakened says Lily is in the 5th and showing some dramatic loss on kids.

But I read somewhere there are people with the worst marriage charts, having a very happy life for a long time and there are some with a perfect chart not having a good relationship at all!

I don't think we should mind that!

F.

[Aristophanity]

I read an internet article that stated that the time the marriage license is finalized is the operative moment. So perhaps the people who had poor ceremony charts had good license finalization times.

Also, one's progressions, arcs and transits at the time seem to take priority over the marriage chart.

Synastry is also a consideration.

Even more important is whether or not the parties have learned how to behave in a relationship.

[wintersprite1]

Looking at the chart, it doesn't look as bad as you imagined.

First of all is the chart ruler Mercury. Though going into a combustion, it is applying to the 11th house.... Friendship is the most important element in a marraige, so I am thinking this is a great thing and with the Sun in the same house. Cancer being the ruling sign on the 11th cusp again shows a security in a respectful friendship way. Venus is applying to the MC, giving an over all flavor of love and adoration... others will view you as a loving couple. The part of fortune in the 8th would suggest that one of the most important factors in this relationship may involve joint possessions.

For a few years we all have been trying to avoid the Uranus and Saturn oppositions. The orb is rather large... with Saturn in the first, there is a somberness and need of seriousness. Saturn also is the ruler of the 5th suggesting a coming together to possibly raise children or the want of children. Uranus in the 7th does suggest that the union is a tad unconventional or unusual, and will need plenty of freedom giving to both parties in the relationship.

The conjunction of Neptune, Jupiter, Chiron and the Vertex is interesting.... It does kind of give that fated feel, doesn't it? I am not sure what to make of it being in the 6th and that the 3 entities are RX at the time. The 6th house can also be seen as the marriage's 12th house.... so this maybe the unconscious purpose of the marriage.... the 12th is also the house of karma.

The marriage chart is an important event chart, and I would also factor in the synastry and composite and Davidson charts before deciding something is indeed doomed.

TK

[Elansome]

That's amazing guys. I did not want the elect the time, I rather wanted to leave it to the hands of my fate, I knew the time I did not chose would be so meaningful. I had great transits when I got married. T. Jupiter and Chiron conjuc. the marriage part in my chart, T. North Node and Juno trined my natal Jupiter which is the ruler of my 5th house. Transit Moon conj. my husbands 5th house ruler which is Venus. My 7th house ruler conj. the 1st house ruler of mine. Transit Mars conj. my natal Jupiter. T. Part of Fortune conj. natal Chiron. So many transits, so I believe that it is gonna happen what is supposed to happen. I don't think we should try to elect the best time. If that's gonna come it will come. There is already an order in the universe I don't know how good is that to wait for the right time which is really hard to find.
Thanks for your input
E.

[astrologer50]

DANGER SIGNALS IN THE WEDDING CHARTS
Marriages are subject to troublesome times under the cycle of Saturn just as an individual is. The third year is critical because Saturn is then 15 degrees from its position at the time of the wedding and from there the years are; seven, twenty-one, twenty-eight, thirty-five, forty-two, and on so long as the marriage would last.

The progressed Moon operates on approximately the same cycle as Saturn, but perhaps and usually in a different sign and a different house. Then it pays us to watch carefully that Moon and Saturn do not severely afflict in the marriage chart so not to multiply trouble.

The early days of the marriage may suffer when the progressed Moon enters the next sign and this can be any time during the first twenty-eight months of the marriage, depending upon the degree of the Moon at the time of the wedding.

RETROGRADE PLANETS
All love relationships are in danger when Venus is retrograde, regardless of its direction in the wedding charts. Venus retrograde "is falling out of love" and takes on a Mars attitude causing each partner to expect more of the other and each partner to more individualistic.

When the Sun transits Aquarius divorce rates rise. Aquarius is the sing of freedom and Uranus rules divorce. Usually one of the parties does not want the divorce but more often finds that the suddenness of it was the cause of the suffering and that the situation actually is better than before in some way.

Mercury retrograde is not guarantee of divorce. There will be changes in the marriage on the years Mercury progresses direct and if divorce occurs it may well coincide with Mercury returning by progression to the degree where it was in the wedding chart. Also, if Mercury is retrograde and divorce does occur the divorce will most likely be file during a period when Mercury is transiting retrograde. If there is a secret marriage followed by a public ceremony, the chart of the public ceremony probably will have Mercury retrograde.

Mercury in the wedding chart represents the children born to the union and a retrograde, if in the fifth, seventh, ninth, eleventh, etc., house will depict that the pregnancy representing that child will result in a miscarriage. Now to clarify; The fifth house is the first child, the seventh house is the second child and the third child is the ninth house. If Mercury is retrograde in any of these houses the child represented by that house will deliver prematurely. In which case the following alternate house will rule any next child to be born.

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CRITICAL DEGREES
CARDINAL SIGNS 0, 13, 26
FIXED SIGNS 9, 21
MUTABLE SIGNS 4, 17
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The ANARETIC degree (29’) of any sign is to be AVOIDED in a wedding chart, especially for the degree of ASCENDANT, MIDHEAVEN, SUN, MOON, VENUS, MARS, OR JUPITER.

THIS IS SAID TO BE THE DEGREE OF TEARS!

Sun at 29 degrees, Moon at 29 degrees. Jupiter opposite Uranus.
Uranus square Moon, Venus or Mars SHOULD BE AVOIDED in any wedding chart because Uranus is freedom and the square stimulates too much friction between parties.

Three degree orbs were used for this study!

The Ascendant in the marriage chart event and may be performed under tearful circumstances of someone.

The Midheaven brings scandal or trouble from the parents.

The Sun is the masculine image and authority of the chart and the 29TH DEGREE OF THE SUN DESTROYS THE IDENTITY OF ONE OF THE PARTIES

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