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Shining Ray
06-14-2009, 05:28 PM
Lately I have enjoyed reading Carters work, I will collect all his books. I was looking up information about him online when I came across this in Wikpedia:

English astrologer and astrological writer. Generally regarded as one of the masters of astrology during his lifetime, Carter's work, especially his insistence on first principles, remains a powerful influence on astrology and astrologers to this day. He is chiefly known as the co-founder and first principal of the London Faculty of Astrological Studies (indeed it was his idea).

He was born January 31, 1887, at 11:01 p.m. GMT, in Parkstone, Poole, England. Carter began his career by graduating from the University of London in 1913 and practicing as a barrister. He served in the army during the First World War and it was at this time he became interested in astrology after requesting one of Alan Leo's famous "one-shilling reports".
Besides co-founding the Faculty of Astrological Studies, Carter was the second President of the Astrological Lodge of the Theosophical Society from 1922 for many years. He also founded the Astrological Quarterly magazine in 1926 and was its Editor until 1959. As a final flourish, in 1955 Carter correctly predicted his own death would be in 1968. He died at age 81, on October 4, 1968 at 4:30 p.m. in London.

What did he see astrologically in 1968 in his chart for the end of his life? Is this a rumour or did he really know when he was going to die using astrology?

Chart with transits below:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8127/cartersdeath.th.gif (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/cartersdeath.gif/)


[Mod edit - thread moved here, as it discusses the chart of a well-known astrologer.]

Awakened_Pisces
06-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Transiting Sun conjunct Uranus in the 12th along with the True Node. If you think of Uranus as Freedom, perhaps it meant it was time to go onto the next life.

Shanti
06-14-2009, 08:31 PM
Ahh how fun.... A little astro quiz...
I found some very interesting things going on in his chart actually:

*progressed new moon 2 degrees taurus conjunct prog mars.
(indicates a new cycle in life and with 81 years old may mean new transition)
This new moon semisextile pluto in eigth house of death.
*Progressed m.c. conjunct uranus . 13 degrees libra
(I used solar arc m.c.here)
This triggered natal square between uranus and saturn.
*Eclipse 13 degrees aries-libra in october 1968 on progressed i.c. (end of life)
This was a full moon eclipse triggering the solar arc progression M.c. on uranus.
These is quite strong interplay beween progressions and eclipses with the I think very important eclipse on progressed i.c.
this often shown in some way at deaths.
Carter saw probably also that transiting saturn was in aries as well 1968 triggering that m.c./uranus progression and that it would station in opposition to natal ascendent.

The progressions are important I think as carter was moulded in the old astro school where these were important even semisextiles..

Shining Ray
06-16-2009, 07:49 AM
Thanks for having a look, :wink: All of the aspects you have both mentioned could have been how he made an astro-logical conclusion on his own death. I realized after I posted the transits, that he probably uses other predictive techniques. What I read online is that he does discuss death in his book, not sure what all his predictive methods are. I don't have a clue past progressions and transits, he uses solar arc direction. Saturn crossing or aspecting an angle, can have an affect. Saturn is known as the planet of death, it passed my Asc not long ago, but fortunately I am alive and typing this post lol.

Transiting Saturn is exactly squaring his Midheaven, and I have seen this transit a couple of times in death charts, square the M.C and crossing it.

Transiting Pluto (birth, death, rebirth, ) is conjunct the 12th house cusp, and trine Neptune in 8th, transiting Neptune was also opposed it's natal position.

Shanti
06-16-2009, 11:10 AM
Here's his chart with progressions and transits in red.

Also a link on astrodatabank
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Carter%2C_Charles_E.O.

Shining Ray
06-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the chart Shanti, I will examine his progressions, as I never looked at these.