Saturn in Cancer

[poshslob]

I've read this is the most fearful and the most depressed of all Saturn positions.

What do you think?

What special insight can you share about this placement??


I personally have Saturn in Cancer in my 7th house.
I am deathly afraid of relationships! I am also prone to depression. (Nothing else in my chart points to this except Saturn in Cancer)

[L.C.]

I have Saturn in Cancer and 11th house. Saturn in Cancer is to be in it's detriment, I believe? Or is it fall? Either way, it doesn't express itself in it's best way while in Cancer. Basically, the emotional/security-seeking traits of Cancer sort of drown out the solidifying/structuring/disciplined nature of Saturn. Someone told me it's like putting a piece of bread in water---it won't hold up.

Both of my parents have Saturn in Cancer, and what I've seen in how they handle this energy is that they are excellent homemakers...literally! They've built some amazing houses, the kind that get covered in magazines.

If Cancer wants security and Saturn urges structure, maybe that's the kind of relationship you need to be in? And perhaps the fear comes up simply because you're afraid you won't have your needs met?

Just throwing some ideas out there...

[Sappho]

Hello!

Saturn in Cancer is in detriment. I don`t like the fact that you have it in 7 house. You should get very hard in a relation and have a cold relation with your family.
I you understand what this position means maybe the event won`t be so difficult for you.

Bye!

[Claire19]

Saturn in Cancer can point to a partner who is older and a parental figure in the 7th. Saturn in 7th can point to an enduring relationship perhaps later in life and based on practicalities and business. We need to look at your chart to see the aspects. If Cancer is on the cusp then we need to look at the moon and its placement etc. You may look for a partner that is nurturing and motherly or you are that way with them. Also a business that involves domestic products, property and growing produce, involvements with metals and gems. There are many scenarios and it doesnt all have to be negative.

Please post chart.

[poshslob]

Thanks everyone for replies.

I am actually turned off by older men, I think that is because I have Gemini on the cusp of my 7th. Even though I'm attracted to youthful energy, I am also attracted to men have their life together. Serious, mature men (but not older)

Here's my chart. My Saturn has squares (4), and some easy aspects (3) too.
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[piscesascendant]

I've read this is the most fearful and the most depressed of all Saturn positions.

What do you think?

What special insight can you share about this placement??


I personally have Saturn in Cancer in my 7th house.
I am deathly afraid of relationships! I am also prone to depression. (Nothing else in my chart points to this except Saturn in Cancer)
I wouldn't necessarily say Saturn in Cancer is the most fearful of positions, at least not for me. Granted, a lot can be weighed by aspects, house placements, etc. Cancer in a private, conservative sign, and Saturn can be pretty disciplined and uncompromising, but having the combination of the two shouldn't automatically generate fear, etc. Look at some of the crimes in this country and around the world that may have derived from an undisciplined home life. Now I realize you're speaking of the 7th house. In my opinion, like you (or someone else) said, you might simply be looking for a mature partner, not necessarily an older one. Or... you may delay marriage until that mature partner happens to match your age and be older. My two cents worth.

...it doesn't express itself in it's best way while in Cancer. Basically, the emotional/security-seeking traits of Cancer sort of drown out the solidifying/structuring/disciplined nature of Saturn. Someone told me it's like putting a piece of bread in water---it won't hold up.

Hmm... I wouldn't really have associated an image of "soggy bread" with Saturn in Cancer. More like an iceberg or an arctic chill that frozen a rural landscape and simply opening a window requires a crowbar. Not the sunniest of images, but that's what I get out of it.

Both of my parents have Saturn in Cancer, and what I've seen in how they handle this energy is that they are excellent homemakers...literally! They've built some amazing houses, the kind that get covered in magazines.

Congrats to them! That sounds like one of Saturn in Cancer's possibilities. Saturn is very much nuts-and-bolts, so literally building a house (or anything exterior to the self) is not out of the ordinary for Saturn in Cancer. This could be what tends to make Saturn in Cancer's position a bit challenging--you have a planet measured by its exterior dynamics in sign that couldn't be more interior. Saturn is like the creator of all things as well as the judge of how those things turned out. Like the foreman of a construction site

If Cancer wants security and Saturn urges structure, maybe that's the kind of relationship you need to be in? And perhaps the fear comes up simply because you're afraid you won't have your needs met?

Just throwing some ideas out there...
It's possible, but keep in mind what kind of security is being sought and what type of structure is required. Emotional security is often said (Cancer must account for the emotions not only on daily basis, but that person's memories of the past and anticipations of the future based on their feelings at their present moment) and there are a myriad of factors that can contribute to emotional security. One interpretation I've come across that of feeling oppressed, separated. Perhaps a consolidation of your energies might help?


Serious, mature men (but not older)
I think you nailed it.

Was thinking about your "youthful" comment, about Gemini on the 7th house cusp. Virgo is on my 7th cusp, and I'll admit, I tend to lean toward thoughtful, analytical types, and with my Pluto in Libra in the 7th, I prefer that thoughtfulness rather deep, like shifting tectonic plates and all that lies beneath in deep, even deeper--like a planet's core. But that's just me. Your post got me thinking.

Thanks, and I hope all works out well for you.

[Kokopelli]

I have Saturn in Cancer in my 2nd house...

Although we have it in different houses, I'm very nurturing in relationships but it takes work for me to express how I'm feeling out of fear of rejection. I can say that I'm typically not afraid of much, so that's saying something right there. I also had an absent father during my early and formative years, which I think is attributed to this Saturn in Cancer bit. I still don't have a close relationship with my bio-father and my stepfather is more like a friend.

My relationships with men haven't been much better. A couple have required orders of protection and police intervention (for them not me). Has anyone else with Saturn in Cancer experienced stuff like this too or is it just my bad luck?

I'm prone to bouts of high and lows -- the lows feel like depression but nothing clinical or that stays long. I have an exercise regimen and good music on my mp3 player, which seem to drive most blues away.

Good luck with your SnC. ;)

[dreamtimez]

Does anyone have Saturn in Cancer with Moon in Cancer too ? I would like to know about your experience :)

[yashkaran]

Saturn in cancer is not at all good in my opinion as cancer is the sign of heart and matters associated with heart and the delicate feelings of heart like love and joy and some other feeling which shall make your heart beat faster whereas saturn is very slow planet which talks about discipline, sincerity, diplomacy, sadness, sorrow and even depression. Cancer is considered to be most negative sign for saturn. cancer in a way is sign of general happiness whereas saturn is the planet of sorrow. most of the times the results are negative only. if there is mutual excahnge between Saturn and moon or else if saturn moon are conjunct in that case results are good

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[poshslob]

Saturn in cancer is not at all good in my opinion as cancer is the sign of heart and matters associated with heart and the delicate feelings of heart like love and joy and some other feeling which shall make your heart beat faster whereas saturn is very slow planet which talks about discipline, sincerity, diplomacy, sadness, sorrow and even depression. Cancer is considered to be most negative sign for saturn. cancer in a way is sign of general happiness whereas saturn is the planet of sorrow. most of the times the results are negative only. if there is mutual excahnge between Saturn and moon or else if saturn moon are conjunct in that case results are good

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My Saturn in Cancer is sextile Moon. What is the significance of that?

[wilsontc]

posh,

You asked:
Saturn in Cancer...What special insight can you share about this placement??

Whatever sign :saturn: is in indicates how we defend ourselves. With :saturn: in :cancer: (home, also emotions), you defend yourself with your emotions.

Emotionally,

Tim

[Archer7]

Hello Poshslob,

Saturn in Cancer is a subject I'll be working with for my entire lifetime I think. My wish is to understand it on levels that have not been looked into before. I have it natally retrograde, intercepted and in the sixth house (in Cancer of course).

Saturn is a planet that is also about achievement, the ability to incarnate one's dreams in the here and now. It has to do with duties, rules, and the fact that it 'rejoices' in Aquarius and is exalted in Libra (two air signs) suggests to me that it works to best ground us through thinking and reasoning. In Cancer, it doesn't think, it 'feels' its way into incarnation. From my experience, this can be a problem in that it brings on feelings of confusion regarding how to live on a day to day level, look after my health, and I often experience emotional fears (and hence intertia) when it comes to day to day life and work. Feelings of emotional insecurity get in the way of me being able to stand back and reason out a problem and then 'do' something about it.

But I am now 35 years of age and have been studying astrology for about eight years. In other words I have really dug deeply into this placement and researched as much as I could and allowed experience to guide me. What I found is that Cancer is not just about emotions. Cancer is the core creativity. Leo is the outer expression of creativity, but Cancer is where creation actually takes place. It is the 'process' and continual process of creativity. This is to me the most mysterious water sign for this reason. As Liz Greene mentioned, one original symbol for Cancer is the Scarab, who symbolised rebirth and the ability to take souls over to their next cycle. So what I'm trying to say is that Saturn in Cancer can somehow create something new that had never existed before. This is exactly what I did. I did not fit in to the 9 to 5 job and even if I wanted to, couldn't. Be it a job, anything that required discipline, if it did not resonate with me emotionally, I simply didn't even have the will, energy or ability to do it. But when I work with something I believe in, internally (not merely logically), something in me just takes over and hours pass and I don't even feel like I have worked.

I think Saturn in Cancer can be creative and productive, it just takes longer I think to get there and takes constant effort to sustain its journey. The effort is linked, in this placement, to emotional awareness and release. Like it or not, there is no denial that it is through our core emotions that our Saturn needs to work, and it just doesn't have any other true helper. It is 'in' the sign of 'Cancer' and nothing can take it out of there.

Saturn in your chart is very important, in my opinion, because not only is it in the seventh house; the ruler of your MC is Libra, this is an echo of the idea that relationships are very important to you. My MC is almost at the exact same degree as your MC, and my career involves a partnership, and all kinds of nurturing interactions on one to one level. But more essentially, your MC symbolises your highest aspirations in the world, and in Libra, it suggests you internally idealise relationships, ethics, one to one relating, etc.

I also don't know if anyone mentioned this, but your Saturn is intercepted in the 7th house. Mine is too, and from my experience, interceptions suggest that it takes time to reveal that planets energies in your consciousness and life. But it also emphasises that the sign of 'Cancer' is somehow hidden in your chart, in your life. One way I came about this is to often ask myself in any situation, 'how do I really feel now?' It sounds so simple, but I suspect Saturn in Cancer plus the interception suggests already an unconscious, inward denial of how one is really feeling, because emotions are not rational and easy to define. It sextiles your exalted natal Moon so hopefully there is a real opportunity here to give and take between your emotions and your inner principles (Saturn). Saturn is also the co-ruler of your 1st house and the traditional ruler of the second house of your values and income. This to me suggests that working out your Saturn issues can help you express yourself more authentically as an individual (1st house) and ground your values which are Aquarian, so humanism and 'intellectual freedom' are linked with feeling secure in your life. Because Capricorn is intercepted in your chart, I wonder if you are aware of what your real ambitions are in your lifetime, or if it took a lot of digging to wake them up inside you.

I really could go on for a while, so I will just mention that you have a lot of aspects to this placement and therefore can't isolate your Saturn here to just one factor. It's square to Jupiter for instance suggests a challenge to address home and partnership, or family issues and partnership. Your partners may often challenge you to bring up some opportunities for insight and growth there (Jupiter), and to be honest, dig up old wounds (Chiron in 4th).

Best of benevolence with this placement.

Also, Galileo had Saturn in Cancer, now that's one creative, intelligent being worth considering!

[iwonder]

I've read this is the most fearful and the most depressed of all Saturn positions.

What do you think?

What special insight can you share about this placement??


I personally have Saturn in Cancer in my 7th house.
I am deathly afraid of relationships! I am also prone to depression. (Nothing else in my chart points to this except Saturn in Cancer)


I think that this placement is "most fearful" for Saturn itself, for expression of Saturnian principle. Not for the person who has this placement in his/her chart.

If you go by the books, Saturn is the need for structure, it will show how the person seeks/builds structure, how he/she puts limits and focuses, this is the administrator within. How this need is expressed - is determined by the sign. In Cancer, the person does this in a caring, nurturing, empathetic way. Now try to be tough in a tender way!

There may be two ways for it to play out: 1)being totally unorganized or 2)curbing emotions, so they are not in a way. Or you may integrate the energies (say, keep yourself organized and focused while attending to the emotional side). I think it is the lesson for any planet in fall or detriment: to emerge better because you "know" more.

It is hard to express pure Saturnian energy through Cancer. But is it bad? No necessarily. It gives the tough administrator a caring perspective. The energy goes both ways: this is how you are and this is what you can expect. So maybe it is not all that bad, when the most (or second most after Pluto) feared planet is wrapped in love and care :happy:.

In the 7th, Saturn may indicate lessons in the area of partnerships and marriage. In addition to what has already been said, I think this placement means relationships that you need to work for/on. The relationships may be seen as a burden (Saturn!) and excessive responsibility, but at the same time they are solid and secure. Only through effort you can enjoy them.

I have Saturn in Cancer, 7th house, intercepted.

[Claire19]

Does anyone have Saturn in Cancer with Moon in Cancer too ? I would like to know about your experience :)
Saturn in Cancer opposing Moon in Capricorn so mutual reception. This person has a very spartan and dull household. Early home life was not nurturing and quite poor. Is disciplinarian and and frugal with her family members and often there was no food in the house and she eats very little and is consequently quite under nourished. She has the Saturn in the 8th house and sex has always been a trial to her and a burden. She has not inherited anything from her family and it is only lately that she has bought her own home with the insistence of her family who have taken over the business of dealing with that. THe Moon is on 1st/2nd house cusp and she is dark and serious looking with the Capricorn influence. She has always worked for a living. Father was aloof and uncaring.

[Caro]

I have a great friend with this placing. I would say for him it has been about troubled family life. His mum left him when he was two. this has deeply affected him.
He has also had problems with close relationships. he is qutie fearful of them. A sagi sun it is hard to understand. He has gone out with older women _ me being one of them. And seems attracted to women who have a settled family life and children.
However he is a very caring man - jupiter in pisces also. Although this can sometimes come across in a quite stern paternal way. I met him while teaching at a school and the children adored him. He used to take them out on parades and was very disciplined while dealing with them but you could see the love in his eyes.
I think a saturn in 7th house could attract an older partner or a more seriouis take on relationships, perhaps not settling until you are older. Saturn as the disciplinarian would also mean that you could perhaps work hard to develope a great home life or business - maybe restaurant etc.