View Full Version : Help with uranus-sun square in SR
Tweetybird
05-03-2009, 05:13 PM
I would appreciate some insights on the uranus-sun square in my upcoming SR. Since this is a long-lasting aspect I don't think I need to worry too much about specific (unfortunate) events connected with it. But since I'm pregnant (5 weeks) and it connects the 5th and 8th houses I am wondering if it could have anything to do with my pregnancy... It's the only important square in my SR as far as I can see (the pluto-uranus one is a generation aspect, right?).
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance ;)
cassanra
05-03-2009, 05:31 PM
What natal house is rising.
I have been trying to learn solar returns but the more I learn the more I see that your natal chart is important to see.
You can use the solar return as a stand alone but typically you need to see
a. what natal house is on the ascendant
b. if natal planets are prominent or at angles
c. if natal cusps or natal planets are within 1 dgree of solar house cusps
d. where the natal moon is
e.if there are repeat aspects between planets ie if you have sun and uranus in trine natally then the square might bring trouble but not as much as if you natal sun and uranus are in harsh aspect.
The sun in the eighth is actually rignt on target for birth as it is the planet of birth and transformation...your mind will be on this area of your life. My eighth house was quite heavy at the birth year of my first child. Any chance for twins? as gemini rules the 8th or anyone else in your family pregant...could be uranus implies unexpected pregnancy.
Uranus rules the 4th house so there is an implication of unexpected happening with the home related to children. This is also connected to finances.
We see the paring of venus andmars on the descedant. Are you getting married or just married? These are 12/and 6th house rules indicating possible restriction by health? pregnancy might cause this.
Anyway...include your natal information...it is quite critical.
Tweetybird
05-03-2009, 05:59 PM
Thank you for your reply! I have attached my natal chart, I hope I did it right ;)
So, the natal 8th house is on the ascendant of the SR. The natal ASC conjuncts the SR 4th house cusp. Natal moon is conjuct SR North Node in 3rd house.
The idea of twins has already crossed my mind too because my BF's mother has a twin sister so there is a (small) chance... As far as I know there is no one else pregnant in the family but that could still happen of course.
Regarding the venus-mars conjunction, it also made me think about some kind of marriage proposal (which would be perfectly possible). The marriage itself would be the 9th house because I have already been married once before. Maybe the natal venus on the 9th house cusp also points in this direction...?
The only thing that still worries me is the uranus-sun square, do you think that could indicate a problem with the pregnancy? Then again if something would go wrong there would be more stressful aspects, don't you think so?
Many thanks again for your help and insights! :)
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starlink
05-03-2009, 08:44 PM
Tweety, that Uranus-Sun square takes place in your Solar Return and of course also in your natal chart as Uranus is transiting your 1st house. Natally there exists a trine between these two planets and this square is therefore in a way repeating the energy between these two planets at the moment.
When a trine is present in the natal chart, a transit square between them just shows added energy, not necessarily a negative thing.
Sun-Uranus always shows change to the individual and as Uranus transits your natal 1st house, it shows even more so. That is all there is to this square. You will undergo a physical change and with being pregnant,this is of course logical.
Uranus, ruling the 4th house of family in the SR chart is falling in the Solar Return 5th which also shows a connection between a child and family circumstances.
Joseph is right also when he says that you can judge a SR on it's own. I always use the natal chart next to it in order to see where the natal energies of a planet will express themselves in that particular Solar Year. When natally the Sun is found in the 5th (creative self expression) but in the SR in the 7th for instance, this then shows me that the individual will be more busy expressing him or herself in the field of relationships in this year, then in the more artistic field of the 5th house. I find it very important to see how individual changes take place at different times in the life, due maybe to circumstances only happening in that year.
Tweetybird
05-03-2009, 09:13 PM
Joseph, thank you so much for your wise and kind words, they fill me with immense joy & warmth. I hope that one day I will be able to interpret charts as wonderfully as you do, lots of respect to you :)
And you are definitely right about my lover, he is extremely nervous about the pregnancy (while I am very calm about it) but it doesn't surprise me that much since he has always had difficulties dealing with change and the unknown (he's a real Taurus)...
Starlink, thank you for your input, I hadn't thought about it that way and you're right ;)
Again, thank you all for your time and extremely helpful insights, I appreciate it a lot! :)
silentwarrior
05-03-2009, 11:18 PM
Dear Joseph, what is it in her chart that you see that indicates an indigo child? Thank You:)
Joseph Ledzion
05-17-2009, 08:45 PM
Dear Joseph, what is it in her chart that you see that indicates an indigo child? Thank You:)
Thanks for your question, but sorry about the delay !
I say this because there are many Indigo Children being born at this time, and since her 5th (whole sign) house is Pisces, the ruler of the child is Jupiter.
Here we find Jupiter in the 12th house from the 5th (the child).
A great Soul is born when one of the final 4 signs of the Zodiac has its ruling planet (which is either Jupiter or Saturn) in its own natural house. It indicates a harmonic agreement between heaven and earth.
Another example of this would be if Capricorn were Rising, and Saturn were found in the 10th.
Or Sagittarius Rising with Jupiter in the 9th.
You see? These people are not only aware, but in tune.
Further, because Jupiter (ruler of the child) is found conjunct Neptune and even Chiron, there is a great celestial energy to this child. In the final signs of the Zodiac, there is great awareness this child brings with it. According to this horary, I would raise this child under special considerations, realizing its sensitivity, but that's because I am the same way.
Further, the mother has great nurturing ability, and so I am even more confident that this child will grow up to be an authentically spiritual being.
starlink
05-18-2009, 12:39 PM
According to this horary , I would raise this child under special considerations, realizing its sensitivity, but that's because I am the same way.
Joseph, this is a bit confusing. The question was not a horary question but a solar return one. Or did you mean something else?
Joseph Ledzion
05-30-2009, 07:34 AM
Joseph, this is a bit confusing. The question was not a horary question but a solar return one. Or did you mean something else?
I treated this as a solar return.
Joseph
starlink
05-31-2009, 08:35 AM
Joseph, hi, bugging you again. It is still confusing for me. You first wrote in your post According to this horary, I would raise this child under special considerations, realizing its sensitivity, but that's because I am the same way.
And then you answered me, saying: I treated this as a solar return.
Herein lies my problem:) Does it maybe have to do with your traditional view of a Solar Return?
aquarius7000
05-31-2009, 09:46 AM
Tweety,
As Cassanra has already mentioned, it is important to have the natal chart in front of your eyes, when studying any other chart for that matter (except Horary, a totally different kettle of fish). The natal chart is your basic fundament/ potential, which the transits/progressions, etc set into motion. For this reason, I mainly see sense in looking at the combi of natal + solar return (bi-wheel) chart.
Be well,
:)AQ7
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