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beautifulnpink22
04-22-2006, 11:05 PM
Hello everyone: I am currently in a relationship with a guy who is a cancer 7/17 and I am also a cancer 7/22. I really like this guy and enjoy spending time with him but there are some things that I just cannot figure out. Now we have been together for a few months now and things are going ok, the only thing is it's a bit harder than I thought let me explain; I thought since him and I are both cancers that it would be really easy to read him since we are supposed to have a lot of similarities, but boy was I wrong. The thing with him is it's really hard to figure him out, he is the type that just does not open up or tell me anything and most people say that it's really easy to talk to me and most feel they can open up and tell me things that they may not be able to tell anyone else, but not with him. I want to know more, I want him to open up to me and feel comfortable but I just don't know how to get him to that point. He is also nochalant about everything, it's like nothing phases him and I know sometimes I am like that because I don't want others to see my weak side, however people do end up seeing it no matter how much I try to conceal it. Do you think that's what he is doing? I am trying to be the kind of girl who gives him his space and not ask him anything I just wait for him to do and say things willingly. Being a cancer I know when in a relationship I need that security, I need to know that this person is here and is not going to hurt me. And I remember one day he told me it's going to take a lot to get his heart and for him to love someone. Now how can I get him to the point where he can open up to me and talk to me? I want to give him that sense of security and let him know I am not here to harm him. What are some things that I can to get this cancer man's heart? Please Help

lucilovesme
04-22-2006, 11:15 PM
This is interesting. I have the same problem in my relationship, which coinicidentally or not is Libra-Libra. (same sign relationship)

I don't know much about synastry/relationship astrology... But I wonder if maybe our guys just have some astrological things in common, other than Sun signs of course.

-lu

beautifulnpink22
04-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Well that's kind of strange because Libra's are known to express their feeling and they are very open. I guess it's different when dealing with someone the same sign as us huh?

sam
04-23-2006, 01:00 AM
Hi. The issues you're experiencing with him are typical of Cancer men. Cancer is a female sign that is the mother of the zodiac. She has a "mothering" nature in which she protects and empathizes. In our society, these are typical female characteristics and men born with a major Cancer influence tend to be insecure about displaying it for the fear of not living up to expected gender roles and all that they entail. A lot of them have a tendency to overcompensate for their mothering natures by putting up a wall around their emotions and that part of them completely.

Further, in traditional horoscopic astrology we use more than the sun sign to analyze someone's personality. In order to determine the rest of the influences, a birthtime and location of birth is needed. Could you post this information? It would add a lot of depth to the understanding of your relationship and the possible solutions. :)

beautifulnpink22
04-23-2006, 01:07 AM
My mate was born 7/17/84 in Jamaica as far as the birthtime, that I don't know but I will defintely ask. as far as me I was born 7/22/1983 8:35pm in New York.

sam
04-23-2006, 01:15 AM
My mate was born 7/17/84 in Jamaica as far as the birthtime, that I don't know but I will defintely ask. as far as me I was born 7/22/1983 8:35pm in New York.

Thanks!

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1578/achartmbwfileytcniou1120777276.gif
Here is your natal chart.

beautifulnpink22
04-23-2006, 01:52 AM
Thank you; I know this may sound really silly, but can you explain to me what I am reading. I have never taken a look at a chart like this before.

sam
04-23-2006, 04:30 AM
Thank you; I know this may sound really silly, but can you explain to me what I am reading. I have never taken a look at a chart like this before.

Ah, I'm sorry I didn't give you more of an explanation.
That is your natal chart, or the tropical locations of the heavenly bodies at the time of your birth.
Combining you and your mate's natal charts, we can see where strengths and weaknessess lie.

wilsontc
04-23-2006, 05:07 AM
pink,

You have Leo (self-expression) modifying unaspected (strong energy) Mercury (thinking, also talking/daily work) focused in the 7th house (relatoinships). This indicates you do not "connect in" to your talking. As a result you may OVERtalk, particulary in expressing yourself in a relationship.

He has least Leo modifying least aspected Mercury square (energy needs to b be combined with) Scorpio (transformation, also control) modifying Mars (being). It is not possible to tell houses of his chart without an accurate birth place (city) and time. But, even with this information, we can see his urge to communicate is combined with an urge to control himself. So he has VERY controlled communication, perhaps nervous about letting himself (his being) come out too much in his communication. Since the ONLY way he can connect in with his communication is control, he uses control in his communication ALL the time.

Notice in this entire discussion there has been no mention of Cancer. This is because Cancer is both of your Sun (self-expression) signs and you were asking about an issue of communication. For that, we look at Mercury. As you can see, there is a LOT more to us that just our Sun signs!

Relating,

Tim

beautifulnpink22
04-23-2006, 04:45 PM
If there is anyone else who can shed light on my situation please helo. I can use all the advice I can get. Thanks