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Lycksele
04-22-2006, 07:00 PM
Good Day, :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I have a double T-square on my chart,
North Node opposite Moon with Neptune in Capricorn.
Jupiter opposite Mars with Neptune in Capricorn.
Any suggestions? :roll:
Thanks. :mrgreen:
franklin taylor
04-23-2006, 05:06 AM
Hello Lycksele,
A double T square would be called a Grand Cross, but you do not have two T squares because the North Node is not a planet it is a point. Just like our ascendant is a point. An exerpt from Robert Pelletier's book titled Planets in AspectsUnderstanding your inner dynamics; concerning T squares or T-Cross as he called them says The T-Cross is is exactly the same as the Grand Cross except that one of the four arms is missing, so the formation looks like the letter T. It shows much dynamic force that is often frustrated unless the qualities of the open end are adopted. Close aspects to any planets involved by a planet outside the T-Cross will alleviate the tension and make it possible to express the dynamic potential satisfactorily. I do not know what your chart looks like. So I could not even begin to if you have those potential planetary "relievers" we'll call them. Is your natal data on the list?
Take Care
Franlkin
amzolt
04-23-2006, 07:42 PM
I have a double T-square on my chart,
Any suggestions? :roll:
Thanks. :mrgreen:
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Lunar Pisces
04-26-2006, 08:34 PM
If both of these t-sqaures have Netune in Cap as a apex, it's one t-square, just one involving 4 planets (NN should not be used in determining aspect configurations because it's a hypothetical point and not an extent body, and thus doesn't contribute energy to the configuration). This would be the case even if the two planets that share a point in the t-square aren't tightly conjunct (although they must likely would be orb conjunct), because at least they'd be conjunct by sign. Remember that t-square is an aspect configuration that manifests in sign modality (signs which naturally square or oppose): cardinal, fixed, or mutable.
In your case, if your apex is Cap, then the base needs to be in Aries and libra. So if any of those planets are not in either Aries or Libra they are not really part of the t-square. If the planet is not in a cardinal sign, but still square your Neptune by orb, it would not act the same as a square in another cardinal sign, so it would not create the same effects as an actual t-sqaure.
A further note on the NN: the only way it would factor into this t-sqaure is if it was tightly conjunct a planet. It wouldn't contribute directly to the configuration, as it has no energy to contribute. But it would influence the energy of the planet it conjuncts. Case in point: I have an air grand trine, with Uranus, Mars and Mercury. My Mars conjuncts my NN, so my NN influences my grand trine, but only by way of influencing the energy of my Mars. However, if my Mars wasn't so closely conjunct my NN, I would not be able to consider it an influence in this configuration.
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