Will they be together? - turned houses

[icestar]

Querent asks about whether his friend (female) would be together with another guy. So Querent gets 1st house, and depending on how he sees her, she either gets 11th or 7th. If he likes her, then She will get 7th. Then what about the other guy (whom should get the turned 7th of Her in usual relationship charts)?

Btw, querent is astrologer too.

[natasa812]

Dear Icestar, I also asked a question for a friend of mine once and the best way was (in case that he knows that you are asking) to give him the AC and to her the 7th. Now, for her partner, it would be her turned 7th and then, the querent takes the Moon (only - and not the AC + Moon). In case that Moon is the ruler of the AC, then, we take the planet that ``fits`` better - like for example Mars if it is younger man or Saturn for an older one.
The same is if we are talking about female - we take Venus or Moon or Saturn for the ex wife for example (or, generaly speaking, in cases where there are 3 people involved).
And astrologer takes the 7th in cases when we want to include astrologer but is he personaly interested in this girl or not?
Best r
Natasa

[starlink]

Icestar, if he asks if she would be together with another guy, then I would think that she is now with him as a lover. She gets 7 if he has a relationship with her. Her other guy then would be the 1st house, but because the querent has already that house, I would give querent the Moon (co-signifier of the 1st house) and the other guy the ruler of the 1st (only because the other guy plays a more important role in this question than the querent does).
Or, I would take Mars (for a young man) or Sun (middleaged man) or Saturn (older man) for the other guy.

If the female is a real friend of him and nothing else, then take the 11th and the 5th rules "the other guy".

Cheers, Starlink

[starlink]

Well, Natasa comes with the same solution! We must have posted simultaneously:)

[natasa812]

It is not that we posted simultaneously but that my solution is same as yours, meaning that finaly I am making some progress and that you are good teachers. I hope that one day I will learn horary and be able to apply it in my every day life. This is my target - also trying to understand my natal.
The rest of it (which is huge ``knowledge package``), I`ll be happy to leave to you professional astrologers. :)
Best regards

[icestar]

natasa and starlink thankyou both for replying. Well querent is not in a relationship with her, but querent likes her, more than a normal friend. So she should take the 7th i guess.

by the way, i was wondering if Mars (for a young man) or Sun (middleaged man) or Saturn (older man), then what about women? Venus for young woman, Moon for all other woman?

[starlink]

Yes Natasa, you are learning really well. Good for you! I am always happy to see members really intend to learn well. Whatever questions you are struggling with, you know where to find me:)

Cheers, Starlink

[starlink]

Venus for young woman, Moon for all other woman?

Venus is very often the planet showing a female lover. Saturn is often used as the cheated wife, so I would give Venus the younger version:) . The mother is showed by the 10th house, so whatever planet is on that cusp shows her. Father 4th house ruler.

Moon is of course always the co-significator of the querent, whether male or female. Moon is also used as a timing device.