Constantly Moving

[Moradiva]

I've moved a gazillion times already (over 30times)...what indicates moving in a natal chart? I've read that Moon in the 4th could be one way. How about Uranus in the 4th or on the opposite end, as in mine? What propels these moves? My mother does not have these 2 indicators so I'd like to compare notes with her chart & see what's her reason, as well.

[lodals]

I'm still pretty new to all this but my Moon is conjunct the IC in Aquarius and in mutual reception to Uranus in Cancer, and I too have moved around a lot, so I'd think that Moon in the 4th opposite Uranus would do the same thing.
Your little stellium around the MC tells me you were born the same year as my son. His Uranus/Jupiter/Pluto conjunction trines his Aquarius IC and his Moon in Gemini, which seem to signify his early travels. My other two children also have Moon, Jupiter, and Uranus aspecting the IC pointing to the same thing.
If Uranus and the Moon don't seem to be indicating the constant moves in your Moms' chart I would look to Jupiter (long distance travels), Pluto (out with the old, in with the new) and the 4th house.

[Astrologer4U]

I've moved a gazillion times already (over 30times)...what indicates moving in a natal chart? I've read that Moon in the 4th could be one way. How about Uranus in the 4th or on the opposite end, as in mine? What propels these moves? My mother does not have these 2 indicators so I'd like to compare notes with her chart & see what's her reason, as well.


I find it interesting that your 4th house stellium has all those planets in there along with the Moon, which is the ruling planet of the fourth. I find it more interesting however that with the exception of Neptune, all of your planets are in mutable or cardinal signs. The only stabilizing factor you have is the Neptune in the 12th, fixed in Scorpio.


Before I go any further, if you live with your mother and it is your mother who initiates the moves and you just follow along, it would be good to see her chart. I am getting a hint that the constant moves have something to do with either running away from something, or running towards something one is in search of but not necessarily sure of what that is. Again, if you live with your mother, seeing her chart as you suggested would help. :)




Astrologer4U

[aquarius7000]

Interesting chart, Diva.

A big factor triggering the frequent moving could indeed be Uranus (change and instability) so tightly aspecting your IC/MC axis and planets in the corresponding houses.

Ruler of your 4th house and Ascendant, Jupiter also tightly aspects the IC/MC axis. Now Jupiter, ruler of Pisces and Sagittarius, signifies long voyages/travels and adventure. In your case, they indeed are (also) physical with perhaps also some spirituality attached to them, esp with the involvement of both those zodiac signs.

Then there is Moon (mother, also instability), as Astro4U pointed out, in your 4th contributing to this.

You also have a chart with a lot of fire = action in it, which, in turn is heightened through planetary placements in cardinal houses (1st, 4th, 10th) indicating an active life in general.

Saturn, which could have been a stability factor being located in the 4th, seems to be doing just the opposite here by manifesting perhaps its other side of (a certain amount of) insecurity or, at least, unsurety, as it is aspected by planets of growth and adventure (Jup), change (Ura) and transformation (Plu). It could also reflect a yearning of that what one misses/lacks in life, in your case, stability.

House and family would be your focus with Sun in the 4th, and the rest of the 'party of planets' in there as well. This moving of house seems to give you your direction in life through the N-Node so tightly conjunct your IC axis and in aspect to all those planets around your MC/IC axis.

Just as a thought, there could come a time, when all this moving (now through your mother and later through your work perhaps) could cause a bit of a tug-of-war between your home and work/public life through those oppositions between the planets centred around the IC/MC axis.

:)aquarius7000

[Moradiva]

Hi Guys
Thanks for responding! I think I gave you guys the wrong impression that I currently live with my mom. I am 39 & been on my own since 23. Growing up with a single parent & 2 older sisters, we moved approx every 2 yrs & sometimes cross country; Ura/Jup/Plu conj MC. As an adult, I still move but less frequently.
My mother only moved heavily after she married my dad at 21 yrs old & even though they've divorced 35 yrs ago, she is still moving. My mother's 4th is ruled by Gemini with Jup conj. 4th cusp & Sag ruling her 10th but empty. Her Uranus in the 3rd but not conj 4th....My point is, my chart looks so obvious, but what do I look for in her chart to support her constant moving?

(Her chart is attached)

[archergirl]

I doubt it's a generational thing, Moradiva, but I'm the same age as you, and I have moved a LOT (like you, nearly 30 times). Four different places before the age of 17; the rest after I left home.

I was interested in the late degrees on your 4th cusp; I have late degrees as well (between 24 to 29 depending on house system). I have no 4th house planets, however; my 4th ruler, Venus, is in Sagittarius.

You also have planets in the 9th (I have Jupiter), and notwithstanding your Sagittarius rising and Mars on the 1st angle, I suspect that you might simply have 'itchy feet' and maybe a craving for exploration. As others have noted you have only two planets in fixed signs; the rest is cardinal or mutable. Hardly someone who sits and watches the world go by!

AG:)

[Moradiva]

Hi Archergirl

Yep, I do have "itchy feet" ...very restless, heck with all that FIRE no doubt! However, despite the fact my stellium of personal planets in the 4th is of Fire, I never liked to move. All the moves were due to financial setbacks, (as a kid & as an adult) & not from a new job or anything fabulous like that. :rolleyes:

Luckily, my mother always made things homey no matter how tough things got. As the old saying goes, "Home is where the heart is". :)

Interesting points you've mentioned..thnks!

[Tora]

Though I only have one planet in the 4th, the cusp is in the late degree too and I have moved gazzillion times, especially when Neptune and Uranus was on my AC. I didn't like moving so much but one thing or another I had to move.

Moradiva, I noticed that Uranus is opposing the 4th house cusp and that could be it! Do you live in a distant world, away from home/home town? Because the 4th house ruler Jupiter is in the 9th. Also, Jupiter conjuct Uranus means that Uranus effect is enhanced even more?

You may just have to accept "Normad" status

[AineB]

I find myself somewhat nomadic too! ;) Uranus in the 4H (Scorpio) opposite Chiron and MC (Taurus) and also squares my 6H Moon (Aquarius). The funny thing is I was hit pretty hard the last 2 days with wanting to move AGAIN!! Back west again... maybe CA or OR. I even pulled a horary for it! I moved a few times when I was younger and when my mom went through her divorce to my father (4 or 5 times?) and then twice again when she got remarried. I was on my own at 17 and moved out of state (OH to PA; small town to Pittsburgh), a year later moved cross country to CO, moved throughout CO for 7 years and then back to OH for 3 and then down to FL 3 years ago!! I really, REALLY want to buy a house and settle down... just can't find anywhere that really seems like "home". We'll see how things go in a few months and if I'm packin up!!! :rolleyes:

[Moradiva]

Tora:

You are abosultely correct! I was born in CA in '69 & after a major earthquake in '71, (my astrologer said bc of Uranus on top) we moved back to the Eastcoast where my parents are from. So, basically, I've been living here ever since.

I forget Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces & yes, it's in my 9th. Very good point, Tora! It's also good to know that I am not alone in that a lot of people on this forum share a similar background. :)

[astrologer50]

Tora:

You are abosultely correct! I was born in CA in '69 & after a major earthquake in '71, (my astrologer said bc of Uranus on top) we moved back to the Eastcoast where my parents are from. So, basically, I've been living here ever since.

I forget Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces & yes, it's in my 9th. Very good point, Tora! It's also good to know that I am not alone in that a lot of people on this forum share a similar background. :)

Hi, I'm a modern astrologer that uses Equal house system. You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com (http://www.astro.com/) and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description)
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp (http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp)

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Now all this means is that your 4th house planets move to 5th house of love affairs, romance, recreational matters, children etc. MC/IC remains the same in line of important and like others have suggested it does seem your Uranus/Jupiter conj MC and moon, Node conj IC is responsible for these moves. But remember North Node is where you are supposed to be going/learning and Aries to be more independent, self centred, direct and to the point in 4th & 5th house matters. Fourth being IC/home roots and 5th being where your sun is located conj Saturn. This suggest your father or autority figures were somewhat restrictive in your formative years.

Have you tried the astrocartography on astro.com, go to free horoscopes, then look to right. astro.com on interactive, travel they offer astrocartography/world maps, which has its place and explains which planets rules lat and long where you relocate to and how this will affect you in this location. Do NOT do a relocated birth chart.