Hearing Loss

[Antares]

Hi everybody,

Someone to help.

I have a hearing loss since the age of 5 since I got Mumps.
What element in my birthchart indicate this loss?

I was born July 4th, 1952
Beirut, Lebanon at 00:10 AM
33N49 35E29

Thank you

Antares

[Frisiangal]

The ear, as a region of nose, throat and ear falls under Taurus and, therefore, Venus influence as an organ. But 'hearing', contact with the outer world, is one function of the 5 senses ruled by Mercury. My medical astrology book places the eardrum under Mercury rulership also. Bone structure of the ear is ruled by Saturn, as is any 'blockage' that impairs hearing. The labyrinth of the ear is given as Neptune but with possible Mars (infections) undertones.

Your chart shows several squares between the planets mentioned above, especially between Mars and Mercury, rulers of the Ascendant and 6th house generally associated with health factors.
I was personally intrigued that Black Moon Lilith, that is recurringly found in health pattern difficulties, is conjunct Mercury and part of the square. I would be very interested to read how your impairment has affected your life.

F.

[Shining Ray]

I was interested to look at this chart and compare it to the rules in my Encyclopedia for loss of hearing. Most of the significators Fris has already mentioned with Mercury/Mars square and connected to the health houses.

Here is what it says in my Encyclopedia for Hearing

Rules are given by Lilly which I repeat for what they are worth: The two infortunes denounce debility of hearing, especially Saturn if he be in the terms and houses of Mercury, and more so if Saturn is posited in the 6th or 8th houses. From hence we judge, if Mercury be the lord of the 6th and unfortunately placed on the Asc, and Saturn behold him with a square or opposition, or else he behold the 6th house in opposition the native will be deaf or be defective in hearing. Mercury being lord of the 6th or 12th either declares the native deaf or much afflicted in the ears. Mercury unfortunate in the house of Saturn and placed in the tenth, the infortunes aspecting him the same.

From my observations, I conclude that Mercury is nearly always malefically afflicted, generally by a square or semi square and often by Uranus. The sign of Virgo is conspicuously common, as asc, or as containing the afflicting or afflicted planet. Mercury is commonly in the 12th or is afflicted from it. Moon is rather commonly afflicted in or from Aries. From 5 to 8 Degrees LEO - AQUARIUS are very often involved.

In this chart:

Mercury ruler of 6th
Mercury lord of 6th/3rd Squares Asc
Mercury (ruler of 6th/3rd) Squares Mars (ruler of 1st) health houses implicated.
Saturn in the 6th house a Mercury house
Mercury at 5 degrees LEO

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6703/hearinglosshy7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Light]

Sorry to interrupt..

But with Mercury at 6 Aqua, conjunct Saturn at 11 in the 3rd, inconjunct Uranus in Virgo in 10th, this why my hearing's shot, too?

Antares - coincidence, I had mumps at 5, but they say my hearing loss is following the family trend - My father's family all ended up stone deaf!

I'll let you get back to it,

take care

light

[Shining Ray]

Thanks for the information Light, the rules seem to work a lot of the time in this Encyclopedia. The degrees have matched a few charts I have looked at too. I never used to believe the degrees had much significance but they do seem have an influence when it comes to certain health problems. Your chart matched the hearing difficulty astrological indicators, and so did the birth chart of antaris.

[astro.teacher]

Indicators of Deafness;

Saturn, specifically relating to the right ear.
Mars, specifically relating to the left ear.
Mercury, the general significator of the brain.

Mercury joined to Saturn through Conjunction, Square or Opposition ill dignified leads to complete deafness. This is especially true if Mercury is Lord of the sixth House.

Mercury in bad aspect with Saturn or Mars in the tenth and no asistance from Jupiter or Venus.

Mercury inflicted with Saturn or Mars who are Lords of the sixth or twelfth Houses with Mercury Combust lead to deafness as well.

[Sag Moon]

I have Mercury in Taurus 11th squared by Uranus Leo in 3rd and Mars in the 10th 45Deg. Semi-Square Mercury SesQuadrate Uranus.

My hearing loss stems from riding the NYC subway system as a kid,rock concerts in the 70's ,Jet Aircraft in the Service and Industrial work.

Also look at the Health Houses also. 3rd,6th,9th and 12th.The 1st should be noted also.

I should look at Helen Kellers chart also for senses.

[Shining Ray]

Here is Helen Kellers chart, I have looked at this chart before but didn't know what caused her hearing problems at the time. I did look at Mercury square Saturn/5th house and assumed this represented her blocked self expression/language. I have looked at her chart again and according to the rules there were a couple of more significators which were missed. Here is her chart below, with the link I got the birth data from.

Saturn rules 3rd and conjuncts 6th house cusp/Mercury house
Saturn inconjunct Asc
Saturn squares Mercury
Mercury rules 8th/10th and squares 12th house cusp

I will have to learn to translate the rules, like astrodatabank did on the Alcoholism significaters in the chart, makes it easier to locate all the aspects.

http://finblake.home.mindspring.com/bfkeller.htm

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7161/helenkellerchart2ig2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Sag Moon]

Thanks for bringing up helen Kellers chart!

Intresting and I will have to study it also.

On Alcoholism I am trying to get Bill Wilsons and Bob Smith's the ,founders of AA, birthdata!

There are certain degrees that are associated with Alcoholism BTW.Dahmer intrestingly enough had some of the Alcohol degrees in his chart.I know that from studying the murderers and reading a book about them.
He and Bono of U2 were born after and before me respectively in the same month.So I have some of the traits of the degrees involved along with having 24Deg. Sag Moon which is suppose to be an addictive degree. 7Deg of Scorpio is also an addictive degree which I have.

I never liked Alcohol ,but have had my bouts with drugs ,but nothing that I think was out of control .Others might differ though on that opinion I am sure. A Jury decided against me as there was an intern in ER that thought I was drunk and honestly I had not had more than 3 beers as I do not lke alcohol and told the truth on the stand.Alcohol is and has been an evil to me and my family so i do not use any substances any longer.

It's intresting that Bill W. also had his N.Node Degree which is my MC degree and which is also my Midpoint Degree of Sn\Mn.Maybe that is my destiny ,to help others with addictions.

I apologize for getting off topic as both subjects ,hearing loss and alcoholism I have dealt with. I studied murderers because I wanted to see weather there is a common thread that ties them together. The only thing I came up with after readiing the many profiler books and subject matter is they have a delusional dream life whereas they mix pain & suffering in their sexual fantasies and have no conscience or empathy for others.

Thanks for the insight to Helen Keller's chart!

[Shining Ray]

Hi Sag moon,

Your welcome for the chart. I wouldn't worry about going off topic, I do it all the time :D. Since your interested in murderers I checked my book for indicaters of this and there is a little information on it. How true it is I don't know, I think killers charts probably need a lot of analysis, I am not sure if we will ever be able to confirm a person would kill someone just by looking at their chart, but it is a fascinating area of astrology to look at. I have often looked at their charts and murder victims charts and looked all over the web on the subject.

Here is more information if your interested:

Homicidal Tendency:

Great difficulty arises in detecting this, since motives for homicide vary widely. There are usually violent afflictions to the Sun. Leo and Aries are often involved and the zodiacal areas around 0 degrees Leo or Aquarius and 5 degrees Aries or Libra are frequently occupied. Also 20-25 degrees of the fixed and about 9 of the mutables. 17 degrees Gemini and Sagittarius. Sun, Moon, or malefics afflict the Asc, almost inevitably. Adverse Venus square Uranus contacts are common.

As I said I am not sure this is enough information to go by. I have Leo at 0 degrees in my chart, I have my Sun in a mutable sign at 8 Pisces. I don't know some pretty common stuff is mentioned for charts. Violent afflictions to the Sun must mean that most of the outer planets afflict the Sun/planets in leo or Aries. And lots of harsh aspects to the Asc, although I think I have seen a few charts with Venus/Uranus squares, but then there are probably a lot without this aspect. When I come across a few murderers charts I will probably compare some of the rules to the charts out of interest to see how much matches especially the degrees.

[astro.teacher]

Traditional Rules of Homocide in a chart:

Mars in the fourth makes the Native a shedder of blood. He will also be excited by all types of violence and villainly. I expect that Mars should be badly placed in this house.

The Significator of the Chart with the Eye of the Bull gives the Native violent tendencies and drawn to war. However if Lord of the AScendant and Moon are conjunct with the star, it proves the man a murderer.

The Lord of the ninth posited in the eighth House shows the Native forced to travel for a crime or murder he has comitted.

Saturn, Sun, and Mercury in the MC in square to Mars makes the Native a fugative, robber and sometimes a murderer.

Pleiades conjunct with MC have hte ability to produce a murder in the Natives life, whether by him or of someone around him. As does Caput Algol.

[Sag Moon]

On Murderers;
"Destined to Murder" By Sandra harrison\Edna Rowland for a few dollars US is the book I read and have been through various charts on them.

Mars\Pluto-Rage Aspect related to Death & Sex

Mars\Saturn Midpoint- Midpoint of Death

Moon\Mercury-Hard Aspect can be a liar

Saturn\Neptune-Drug Habit(On Descenant for Gacy)

Violent Degrees=16-19 Libra
24-27 Taurus Algol Malefic Fixed Star area(Head & Neck)

There are a few more that I know of like 7Deg. Scorpo is an Alcohol Degree and 24Deg. AQuraius.

From memory I see alot of Gemini in murderers charts show up.

[Shining Ray]

Thanks for the information, Astro teacher and Sag moon. I will keep a note of them and test them out when I come across murderers charts. It would be good if there was a site with charts under each category like killers, victims charts. Charts for different vocations and illnesses. A whole database of charts. Maybe there is one but I haven't seen it, you probably would have to pay for it.

[Sag Moon]

There is a site:
AstroDataBank founded by Lois Rodden:
http://www.astrodatabank.com/

You have to pay as I have not.Her info is not all on ,but good enough to get perspective.

[queenfluff]

I know this is an old thread but I wanted to comment. Thanks for the info on hearing loss and charts.

I started losing mine about 8 year ago (32 yrs) even though I had no problems prior with my ears before.

I have Saturn in my 6th which is in Taurus. It is also the handle of a bucket pattern in my chart. There aren't any squares to it but from what info has been provided here sounds like my chart would point towards hearing loss. It started diminishing after a few bad ear infections caused by too much wax in both ear.

[EtheelLambert]

MERCURY Rules over the academician and mind. It's attributes is capricious and variable. The Afraid system, lungs, tongue, speech, hands, arms and mouth are beneath the access of this. Mercury affects afraid and brainy disorders,Hearing Impairment.

[queenfluff]

MERCURY Rules over the academician and mind. It's attributes is capricious and variable. The Afraid system, lungs, tongue, speech, hands, arms and mouth are beneath the access of this. Mercury affects afraid and brainy disorders,Hearing Impairment.


What the hell is an "Afraid" system? Are you saying I am a scaredy cat that is why I lost my hearing? That is not why. I don't have a "brainy" disorder.

[ramirakos]

Hearing loss mainly causes in older people. The other risk factors foe hearing loss including smoking and diabetes. Use honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts, it will help to restore hearing. Habit to make drop of these natural products in daily morning and night.