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Hello Everyone. One of my close relates ( my mum's brother, 29 ) made suicide last summer, Aug. 12, to be precise. We were on good terms with each other - no argues, but also no special attachmennt. There was only short time in our childhood when we used to be closer on account of about the same age, then our ways split. Since his death I've had several dreams and always very similiar: he's chasing me in order to hurt me, maybe kill. Everytime I am able to escape, sometimes I fight. Looking at the chart, I'm Moon (ASC) and he is Saturn (8th). It's significant that he is in the 4th and as it's Saturn it may be an elder man, maybe my father - we often have terrible rows because of my deep independence as a woman in life ( he would like to see me with a husband and children, and as the things are completely opposite, he openly despise me ). Here, Saturn opposites Venus and Uranus, that may indicate such a problem, although I'm not sure. But maybe I'm totally wrong and I should have look into the 12th for my hidden ( and inner ) enemies? And why just now ( we've had that rows for about 10 years at least)? There is chart below.Thanks for any help
The same chart, I hope more readable
01-28-2009, 05:55 PM
I would look at either the moons relationship with the 9th house which is ruler of dreams and visions. I would also look at the dignities of both. I might suggest that you leave off all the astroids and just leave in the planets and the part of fortune and north/south nodes and maybe the vertex. I could not read either chart very well.
I was surprised to see "Cass' as it is my nickname. I was like "did I post something and forget?" or is someone going to complain about me? Too funny.
Nice to meet you Cassanra, my Cass is for Casia. I made a new chart, not so much extended, and it should be clear and legible. I also noticed that the ruler of 9th, Uranus, conjuncts Venus and opposes Saturn in 4th; and Moon is going to join this opposition. Moon ( conj. MC ) in Pisces is in the 9th together with Neptune, so is it all illusions, an exaggerated fear, anything I'm running away from? I'm especially afraid of this hard aspect coming soon. I have Mercure in my natal Chart in this exact point ( Asc. Pisces in very very tight conj. Moon in this horary chart, and my Neptune conj. MC ) - isn't there any strange connection?
01-28-2009, 07:13 PM
Cass, you write about your dream, but do not give us a question. What is it exactly that you want to know? Without a question there cannot be an answer. It is very hard to interprete why you dream something I'm afraid.
The question is: Who is it and what does it want? And in case it is my inner self - what's that? Thanks and soory for that omission.
01-29-2009, 07:48 AM
Thanks Cass. What I suggest you do is also posting this question in the forum about Dreams and spiritual issues. Someone could interprete it for you there.
The only thing you can do here is to look at the 9th house (dreams). Ruler Saturn is in your 4th, retrograde (returning dream). The 4th house shows family or your early upbringing (recurring dream about family).
Saturn can be an older man, Sun is usually a younger man) . But it does not have to do with your father. You say that it started after that family member (your uncle) killed himself and it is him who runs after you in that dream.It is in the sign of Virgo. Virgo has to do with the 6th house and health, so maybe you are being warned about your health in some way. It is possible that you maybe had similar thoughts (suicide?) and that you are fighting it, like in the dream. Saturn is also significant for death, so in a way "death" is trying to get you?
Question is: have you ever had dreams that came true? In that case it can be a warning, but if not, it shows your inner feelings which have been stirred by what happened to your mothers brother. He committed suicide and it must have hit you real hard, asking yourself why?? You tell us that your father is despising you. Maybe you just had thoughts like: "I wished I was dead" going through your head at moments like that.
Your mothers brother is the 3rd house from the 10th, ruled (just) by Venus.
Your father is ruled by Mercury. Mercury is leaving the sextile to Venus. Did your father have a close relationship with this uncle of yours? Start thinking about these things. I have a feeling that there was a connection between him and your father maybe.
Thank you, Starlink. My father didn' have any close relationship with my uncle and the only one thing I can recall in connection with this suicide is that my dad blamed my uncle's wife, mother and mother-in-law... Maybe you're right saying it's about my health but rather of my body than my soul - I don't think of killing myself or so. There is Pluto in the 6th and the 6th cusp falls at the end of Scorpio. A family inherited terminal illness?
01-29-2009, 05:14 PM
I used to always have nightmares about scary guys chasing me. It wasn't until I realized that I had been abused as a child that they went away.
I think it's possible your uncle's shade is stuck. Try turning to face him (instead of running), and tell him to "Go into the light."
It takes time to program yourself to take certain actions in a dream, repeat it as a mantra as you're going to sleep: "I will not run. I will turn and face him and command him to go into the light."
When I can realize that I'm dreaming I suddenly have amazing power. To be fully conscious in the dream world is an absolute trip! It's like being in a holo-deck: suddenly everything turns to a grey fog, and you can go anywhere you want!
Surely, I'll try. I've read sth about it. Of course, I'll write as soon as I succeed. I'll probably attach a new chart relating to the issue, with a new, different question for I can't ask twice the same in horary.
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