Where is my astrology book?

[The_Sundance_Kid]

When I was 15 I saved up the prize money I used to win at school for a whole year, and purchased the Parker's astrology book, and thus began my astrological journey...

Last year that book went missing. I was away from home and suspected my mother had thrown it away as she is either very absent minded or quite malicious and controlling. Either way I have not seen it, and was wondering if it was at home, or maybe I had given it to a friend and can't remember.

The book was very precious to me. I'd even bought the hardback version, and as any 15 year old knows, a hardback is an important investment for the future.

I was thinking if maybe the question should have been, 'will I find my book?', but will horary astrologers forgive this mistake, and take the two questions as one?

I was thinking the book is shown by either Pluto or Mars as Scorpio rules the 2nd house of things. Pluto doesn't do much and the moon will be squaring Mars. Both are in cadent houses, although I could be hopeful and think they are approaching the angles, which might show a quicker and more positive finding.

If Jupiter rules the book, (if it is a 3rd house matter, the 3rd house rules books?) then there is a greater chance the book might be at home or with mom, and Jupiter is angular, and will be conjunct a retrograde Mercury which might mean a re-tracing of steps in the imminent future could lead to discover.

Luckily I asked the question in the nick of time... does the Via Combusta begin on 15 Libra?

I hope I find it!

[RayAustin]

I was thinking if maybe the question should have been, 'will I find my book?', but will horary astrologers forgive this mistake, and take the two questions as one?

In this type of question, recovery is included.

I was thinking the book is shown by either Pluto or Mars as Scorpio rules the 2nd house of things. Pluto doesn't do much and the moon will be squaring Mars. Both are in cadent houses, although I could be hopeful and think they are approaching the angles, which might show a quicker and more positive finding.

We don't use outer planets as significators, so it's just going to be Mars.

If Jupiter rules the book, (if it is a 3rd house matter, the 3rd house rules books?)
*Edit* 9H is for books. Jupiter would signify naturally books, especially books pertaining to knowledge. You can also use Jupiter for the object, as well as the moon.

Luckily I asked the question in the nick of time... does the Via Combusta begin on 15 Libra?

Yup. I'll take a look at the chart.
Ray:)

[The_Sundance_Kid]

Thanks :)

The ironic thing is, that book is the only one of my astrology books to cover horary...

[RayAustin]

Thanks :)

The ironic thing is, that book is the only one of my astrology books to cover horary...

By the way, here is a link so you can try to figure it out as well.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/wit.html

[freedomlover]

Sundance,

I want to take a stab at it. I'm very new to lost objects horaries, so want to see what I can come up with - for the fun of it.

Since it is a physical possession, I would use the ruler of 2nd - so Mars in Cap, which is in your third house of learning, siblings, roommates, and neighbors. The Moon in Libra rules the 10th, and is in your 12th house of self-undoing, hidden places, and things misplaced. This describes the set-up very well, I think.

If the 10th stands for "mothers" in horary, as well, (which I think it does), then your mother may very well have something to do with it. However, Moon is going to square the book's sig, Mars very soon - so there is an aspect. Moon ruling 10th might also show your suspicion of your mother.

If the ASC ruler is you, then you are Venus in Pisces in the 5th. Venus in Pisces could show your great love for the book, or could, again, signify "self-undoing". Moon is making an almost immediate inconjunct to Venus. Also, the Moon is in Venus' sign - so a connection there. Venus is applying a sextile to the significator for the book - Mars. There's alot of connection going on - so I would say this is a good aspect for recovery.

Did you loan it to somebody you were dating? (5th house) Or maybe someone you were interested in (5th house) at a school or library (3rd house)? If you use end of matter in lost object horaries ( not sure if you do), then end of matter is Saturn (r) in the 11th. That might show you loaned it to a friend. It could also maybe mean that the horary question you posted on the forum will be fruitful?:D

If it weren't for all the aspects, I might also be inclined to guess that the turned 4th being your mother's home (Venus in Pisces) in her turned 8th, that she tossed it out or hid/moved it to someplace hidden. Well, I guess, if she hid it, then all the aspects would still apply.


And one more thing.......
You didn't post it, but my understanding is that Part of Fortune is of tremendous value in lost object horaries. You wouldn't have to post another chart, but you might want to run it and post where the POF was located.

Anyway - there's my try. I like to pursue all angles. :D Let's see how far off I was.:p (Traditional horarists: be nice. :o I know you're tying yourself up in knots over my interp.:eek:)

FL

[RayAustin]

You had to be difficult, didn't you Sundance? :P
The chart is very conflicting. :) Almost every "Arguments against Recovery" item is fulfilled, save for two; and at the same time, the arguments for recovery are being fulfilled as well. Mars is also joined to the moon by square, and squares the ascendant--so there are formidable obstacles. There are lots of things that point to the home, being somewhere low, to the ground, and as moon conjuncts the ascendant, I think there is possibility for recovery but it will most likely be difficult, and the moon is slow so expect a good while--it's also conjunct a bad star that signifies hindrance and delays.

I think the answer is a yea you'll get it back, but not any time soon. :)




As for the where?

Depending which part of fortune you use, if Lilly's, it's in the 9h in cancer--near women, with the mother, or in the home (places of study or with other books especially).
If you use the standard way, it's in H4 in Aquarius, again in the home or where people frequent. Aquarius is places somewhat near things involved with water. For some reason, I'm thinking a basement, as Mars is in Capricorn, somewhere dark, and low. Maybe your mum put it away in the basement, or attic possibly. It could also be near a relative or sibling's things. I forgot to add, Mars is under the sunbeams, which would point to damage.

Good luck and you will most likely need a lot of determination..
Ray :)

[freedomlover]

You had to be difficult, didn't you Sundance? :P
The chart is very conflicting. :) Almost every "Arguments against Recovery" item is fulfilled, save for two; and at the same time, the arguments for recovery are being fulfilled as well. Mars is also joined to the moon by square, and squares the ascendant--so there are formidable obstacles. There are lots of things that point to the home, being somewhere low, to the ground, and as moon conjuncts the ascendant, I think there is possibility for recovery but it will most likely be difficult, and the moon is slow so expect a good while--it's also conjunct a bad star that signifies hindrance and delays.

I think the answer is a yea, but not any time soon. :)

Ray,

Okay, this is news to me. I thought any aspect in lost objects horary was a good thing? What are the good points in the chart then?

FL

[freedomlover]

Maybe your mum put it away in the basement, or attic possibly. It could also be near a relative or sibling's things.

You know that same thought occurred to me from the combination of Venus in the5th (her turned 8th) and Moon in the 12th ( her turned 3rd) - that she might have moved it from one place to another -where he wouldn't think to look right off. Specifically I thought of it getting mixed in with a siblings/relatives things - maybe in their books. I wonder if that's an intuitive hit - or just that mine and your minds put things together the same way ( even if we probably use different methods.)

FL

[RayAustin]

You know that same thought occurred to me from the combination of Venus in the5th (her turned 8th) and Moon in the 12th ( her turned 3rd) - that she might have moved it from one place to another -where he wouldn't think to look right off. Specifically I thought of it getting mixed in with a siblings/relatives things - maybe in their books. I wonder if that's an intuitive hit - or just that mine and your minds put things together the same way ( even if we probably use different methods.)

FL

Yeah, it was a bit intuitive for me, but I only considered it because of Capricorn signifying that. I was probably imagining and thinking of my own cluttered basement, where lots of old things are; which is what Capricorn also signifies.

Now that you talk about turning to look at the turned chart, "mom's things" is the sun. Mars is under the sun beams, only eleven degrees '21 from the sun. In Anima Astrologiae (a horary Doctrine), this is considered combust. So the book could be hidden underneath mom's things, possibly even damaged.

Ray :)

[archergirl]

A book will be 2nd house, full-stop. It is a thing you own, it is thing that is moveable, it is a thing that gets lost or thrown out.

I have my doubts that you'll find it. The Moon's first aspect is to square Mars, with very unfriendly reception. But that's just glancing at the chart.

AG:)

[fensi88]

Ruler of 2nd house, represent your book and is in cadent house. That means book is either far off, or close by, but hidden and almost impossible to find. This will take time to find, usually indirectly by a third party.
Moveable (cardinal) signs show high places, upper rooms or newly erected buildings. Look at places where there is a lot of movement or change.
Cap means to look in dark corners near the floor, low, dark places, near thresholds and boundaries. Look at business areas or maybe near some potted plant.
3 house means to look also in the car or garage(left side). Or a sibling may have it or know where it is. Look in a desk or where letters or books are kept (left). Look at the TV or media room, or where you study, or in some cupboard near stairway.

Direction Northeast.
Near colour: black, dark green, brown

POF is in 9 house in Can. Can means to check out near water or food, wash houses, bathrooms, kitchens. Places where mothering or nurturing takes place. 9 house usually indicates item is far away, another town maybe. Also look near some church, college or law “things” at high shelves.

Direction: Southwest
Near colour: white, blue, green

[freedomlover]

Sundance Kid,

I had a thought after signing off last night. With the Part of Fortune being in Cancer (sign of the mother) in the 9th (mother's turned 12th).... I would associate 12th house with an attic. Does your mother have an attic? This would also seem to fit, with the Moon being in your 12th house in the sign of relationship - maybe being yours and your mother's? There does seem to be a double emphasis on 12th house here.

Another thought, with the more experienced horarists saying that even though there are aspects connecting - they are bad ones....... Maybe the thought of your mother "throwing it out" isn't too far-fetched. 12th house could also maybe indicate items given to charity? Is your mother the type that every now and then gathers up a bunch of unused items and carts them off to Goodwill, etc?

Again, just trying to look at it from all angles.

FL

[The_Sundance_Kid]

Thanks for these replies... after reading them I did in fact look at our attic to see if it might be there and couldn't find anything. The two descriptions given fit in very well with my house- either the attic or the garage. And my bedroom faces Southwest, so I have also looked there.

I live with my mother, and she is the kind of person who randomly takes my things and disposes of them or gives them to charity. As a privacy respecting security-in-possessions Scorpio I find this very offensive, but hey what can one do? Parents rarely change, maybe its the children who are supposed to.

The Cancer 9th house also made me wonder if this could refer to the house I lived in during my university years, which only ended last year. I had thought I could have left it there, but well when I graduated and moved back home it was nowhere to be seen amongst those things.

So maybe it is gone and lost forever in my university town, or my mother threw it away. But if there is a chance I will find it, I think it will probably be in the long term, and will probably only come to light if we move house as our small house is rather cluttered.

Of course, I will let you know if I ever find it :)

[alliewar]

your book is near something broken, broken electronic, t.v., radio, telephone