how many retrogrades do you have?

[Ace]

I was wondering about karmic ties and found out about retrograded planets. I am still continuing to discover more and more fascinating points on astrology that I never knew before through this forum and website. I realized my chart has one retrograded planet (neptune) and read the brief synopsis on it:
http://north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades


Then I came across:
http://www.arlenekramer.com/astrology15.asp

This website describes the number of retrograde planets and it's common occurences with percentages. You'll find they give a description of each occurence. Did you know that 36% of the charts of US presidents had zero retrograde planets? Very interesting read.

Another site below only describes the inner planets. Bummer...but still great information.
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm

[Arian Maverick]

Thanks for the links, Ace! :D

I have Pluto retrograde and Uranus stationary retrograde in my natal chart...yep, I'm a rebel :twisted:

Arian Maverick

[Lapis]

Hi Ace, and thanks for the links. What sign and house is your Rx Neptune in if I may ask?

I have 3 natal retrograde planets-

Mercury in Sag in 10
Uranus in Cancer in 5
Pluto intercepted in Leo in 6

Have you read Martin Schulman's book Karmic Astrology - Retrogrades and Reincarnation 1977? You might find it interesting also.

[Ace]

Arian...that's a pretty strong personality there with Pluto and Uranus Rx...what intese retrogrades :lol:

Lapis...I have not read Martin Schulman's book. Can I check that out at my local Barnes and Noble or Borders or do I have to go ahead and get it on Amazon.com? I have Neptune Rx in Sag (1st house). This makes me like a chameleon to my surroundings and am able to blend and perceive everyone's moods. I sometimes pick up on the vibes that people give off which sometimes is not a very good thing as negative energies are quite suffocating to be around.

[Arian Maverick]

Arian...that's a pretty strong personality there with Pluto and Uranus Rx...what intese retrogrades

I suppose having my natal Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Aries--within one degree of each other--doesn't hurt things eithers :lol:

Arian Maverick

[Lapis]

Ace,

Uuuum, uuuuum, uuuum I think you'll be able to find Martin Schulman's astro books at all of the places you mentioned. I usually buy my books at a local 'Metaphysical' store so that's why I'm not sure!

Neptune in the 1st! And retrograde wow, I bet you do sense and read most everything and everyone you come into contact with. I hear ya about the negative energies being so heavy! With Neptune in house 1, you're probably an 'empath', 'psychic', and 'visionary' in general. Here's a brief quote from Martin Schulman's Karmis Astrology - Retrogrades and Reincarnation book I mentioned before.
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"Retrograde Neptune In Sagittarius -

Here, the individual experiences a heightened consciousness of the world and his place in it. He learns to live without anchoring himself to roots. Instead, he lives a more natural existence, flowing with the currents of his fortune.

He is a free spirit with very few attachments that are meaningful to him on the physical plane. With almost a prophetic insight into the future, he can grasp the essence of things in a moment, but he has difficulty stabilizing himself in every day practical matters. He will play a great role in delivering the spiritual message of the Aquarian Age. His life is built on the expansion of formless horizons he senses within himself. At the same time, he is an endless giver of information and knowledge to others.

"......He is a dreamer of the first order. But his dreams are more of a vision for mankind rather than fulfillment of personal desires.

"More than with other placements, this gives a powerful sense of the cosmic whole happening within oneself......

...."Karmicallly, he is not to be bound by anything other than what he perceives as the deepest truths within himself. He will avoid mass movements, organizations, clubs, the institution of marriage, and any other man-made structure which prevents him from experiencing all that he feels inside."
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I feel too that natal retrograde planets help us to function outside of normal 3D time structures. IOW's with Rx planets its like we're working in no time and because of this, we perceive 'realities' a bit differently than if that same planet was direct.

[Ace]

Lapis,



Thanks Lapis for taking the time to type some info on Retrograde Neptune in Sag. I will look into the book some more. Does Schulman's book also give descriptions on just the retrograded planet in sign or does it give it by both sign and house? I would like to read more on retrogrades and it's significance in a birth chart. Wow, this description is a bit scary. All of it is accurate, especially what rings true is "karmically, he is not to be bound by anything other than what he perceives as the deepest truths within himself" and "his dreams are more of a vision for mankind rather than fulfillment of personal desires." I would say I'm somewhat "psychic" and have strong impressions through dreams and several out of body experiences. A well-known local psychic also confirmed my past life and my death that I felt before which was a shocker for me! :o It's funny how I'm fascinated with the occult, but fear to tread futher as I feel sometimes it can open me up to things that I may not be ready for just yet. I guess developting my psi side will have to wait. :)

BTW, what is "IOW's"? And if I may also ask how have your natal retrogrades affected you? Are Schulman's interpretrations accurate for you?

[Draco]

Hi Ace,

I have no retrogrades. Yay!

Draco :wink:

[Gem-Sag]

Good sites posted, they were good reads.

For interest sake, here are mine:
Mars in Scorpio 5th house
Jupiter in Cap in 7th
Saturn in Scorpio in 5th
Uranus in Sagittarius in 6th
Neptune in Cap in 6th
Pluto in Libra in 5th

[Frisiangal]

I have no retrogrades. Yay!

Draco :wink:

Grief! Sooooooo physically, mentally, emotionally active all the time and no chance to take a nap :lol:

Retro. Mercury BQ retro. Neptune :wink:

[Lapis]

Ace,

IOW's is short for in other words.

That book I mentioned does also give house placement meanings. One minute I like the book, and the next minute I'm not so impressed. I think this just indicates that the author is discussing retrogade planets in a rather different way than what we're used to reading about. Sometimes I get really frustrated when I read some astrology books only because I can't relate to where the books author is coming from..... and they couldn't relate to me either probably!

Here's another short quote from Chiron - Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Plantes by Barbara Hand Clow.

"Retrograde planets are best understood from a magnetic perspective, from an energy point of view, and their activity is best understood conceptually as a time dynamic. Direct planets are electrical, and they cause energy to charge and move; retrograde planets are magnetic and draw energy into the chart."

The main way I've tried to understand retrogrades has been to pay very close attention to how I personally am effected by transiting retrogrades. Over the years I have noticed how our perceptions, actions, emotions and most everything change when a planet goes retrograde. Linear time and the foreward push of energies gets all turned around and goes inward and I can access far more data, information, and general understand during retrogrades. It is a very magnetic energy and the whole direction of consciousness changes and in some ways, expands IMO.

But, I'd think that living through a transit of a retrograde planet vs. having it Rx natally......are slightly different for individual, karmic, and learning reasons. I better shut up, I feel like I'm going retrograde! :lol:

[Ace]

Thanks Lapis for the clarification :) Yes, your right. Every book I come across seems to have their different interpretations. I frequently am in the New Age section getting my fill, but sometimes feel overwhelmed. I have that bood by Clow, i think it's descriptive and describes my "wounds" quite well.

Haha...going retrograde. Tell me about it, my Mercury in Gemini makes me feel like i'm retrograde at times! lol

Draco...haha lucky you...i heard also before that a chart with no retrogrades generally gets to reap a lot in this life compared to others to have them. :)

Gem Sag...wow! the most rare six retrogrades...too bad there is no conclusion on this pattern only Muhammed Ali and Angela Davis (activist on gender equality and associated with the Black Panther Party) had it. hmm...don't even know where to begin with a conclusion on this one... :P

[Arian Maverick]

I have been intrigued by the topic of retrogrades, because I think being aware of these influences will help me to understand why I feel the way I do about who I am.

Yes, I feel the same way! I'm particularly interested in stationary planets, for obvious reasons :wink:

Arian Maverick

[pixie1982]

Ace,

Just wanted to say hi because I have retrograde neptune in my first house Saggitarius too!! Like you it is my only retrograde planet, unless a stationary uranus and a retrograde north node (???) counts.

Can't say I'm psychic but I'm definately 'different' to other people and tend to live in my own world!! I was a very hyper-sensitive child too.

[Mary]

mmmmm

I have 6!!! Retrogrades in my chart, all of them in the lower horizon (3th, 4th, 5th and 6th house) and the rest direct (9th, 10th 11th and ASC)

They are:

Mars in Libra (it was retrograde at time of birth but mars was actually very slow in order to percieve it direct.. )
Saturn in libra in IC cusp
Pluto in Libra in 4th
Jupiter in scorpio in 4th
Uranus in Sagitarius in 5th
Neptune in Sagitarius in 6th


I can be nervous but actually I do meditate a lot about life I love to live a calm lifestyle, not what our society expect from us. :)

[Ace]

Sita and pixie your very welcome and just read a previous thread. Sita -Are you still in Alaska? It sounds very exciting and what a change. Must be beautiful down there.

Pixie- Yeah, you must have the chameleon affect where you can blend in to your environment. I live in my own world too, sometimes a bit dreamlike, but I think other factors in my chart keep in check from too much of that :)

Mary - Hmm...with that retrograde affecting only the lower horizon, I'm curious how has it affected you.

[laliqueviolin]

I have 6 retrogrades.. it doesn't seem so rare here on this thread :p


Mercury Aries 08°37'33 11 retrograde
Venus Aries 10°05'24 11 retrograde
Saturn Scorpio 27°11'32 06 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 17°50'13 06 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 03°36'31 07 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 03°43'27 05 retrograde

[sam]

I have Jupiter and Chiron in Cancer in the twelfth/first retrograde.

[Lapis]

This is slightly off topic but I didn't know where to put it and I feel its important enough to share.

A couple nights ago I slowly awoke in the middle of the night and was able to hover in that great state between being awake and asleep. While this was going on I heard myself and someone else having a conversation. It was like I was being tutored which is pretty common while we're asleep actually. The frustrating part is that I was only able to remember a couple of sentences! :( Anyway here's what I heard -

"With both Mercury and Uranus retrograde natally this makes it much easier for you to function outside of linear time and therefor perceive certain lifeforms and realities that exist beyond physicality."

I offer this up to those of you that might find this information interesting or helpful.

[kate0406]

Hello there

I also have Neptune in Sag retrograde in the third house as well as pluto in Lib first and uranus in scorp 2nd. I can relate to being extra sensitive around people's energies and sometimes like to be alone because of this...I guess I'm not very grounded in everyday life and can be a bit of a dreamer! i would also be interested in finding out more about my retrograde planets, somebody told me they are planets we grow into later on in life and find hard to access early on??? Not sure, but I do find it difficult to access that uranus in scorp energy which is square saturn...Will check out those links..

Bye for now

Kate (Gemini)

[Howl]

There's nothing going backwards in my natal world :)

[Lorielle]

4... Mercury, Uranus, Pluto and Neptune.

[AquariusMoon]

This is slightly off topic but I didn't know where to put it and I feel its important enough to share.

A couple nights ago I slowly awoke in the middle of the night and was able to hover in that great state between being awake and asleep. While this was going on I heard myself and someone else having a conversation. It was like I was being tutored which is pretty common while we're asleep actually. The frustrating part is that I was only able to remember a couple of sentences! :( Anyway here's what I heard -

"With both Mercury and Uranus retrograde natally this makes it much easier for you to function outside of linear time and therefor perceive certain lifeforms and realities that exist beyond physicality."

I offer this up to those of you that might find this information interesting or helpful.

Hi. I do keep hearing that natal retros indicate psychic tendencies. I've heard that about Merc retro, and recently Jupiter retro too.

Natally I have Merc, Neptune and Saturn retro, and it's nothing to write home about. With Saturn retro, I do enjoy Saturn the most when tr Saturn is retro, that's for sure. Life can be very smooth then. My Merc retro is a pain most of the time, esp when I have to deal with computer problems, surprise, surprise. I'm a fairly intelligent person, but when it comes to computers, I feel like a 6-yr old, and I need assistance for everything but the minor things and naturally avoid computer training like the plague for some reason. When tr Merc goes retro, things seem to only get worse for my natal Merc retro, but there have been exceptions.

Neptune retro, I haven't figured that one out yet at all. Maybe the links provided will give some insight that will click for me. I do have the Schulman book, will have to dig it out. I can't read the green print for some reason.

Cool, Lapis. I've experienced that in-between state tutoring too, and I love it!

Thanks,
AqMoon

[Light]

Hi All

The disappearing topic has returned :) Just as I'm struggleing with my retrogrades!


I have 4 - Merc, Mars, Uranus and Pluto!Merc in Aqu in 3
Mars in Leo
Ur and Plu in Virgo conj MC!


Lapis

"With both Mercury and Uranus retrograde natally this makes it much easier for you to function outside of linear time and therefor perceive certain lifeforms and realities that exist beyond physicality."

This is interesting, and timely. I have retro Merc in Aqu and Retro Ur in Virgo! Plus, following Fris's suggestions and looking at the decants - Merc is in the Ur decan and Ur is in the Merc Decan! A mutual reception type thingy? How can I interpret this? Not pyschic (as far as I'm aware), but I am getting flashes of inspiration type stuff, which if I concentrate too much dissapear as fast as they come!


Aqu Moon

When tr Merc goes retro, things seem to only get worse for my natal Merc retro, but there have been exceptions.

I was beginning to think there was something wrong with me - I don't have the expected clarity of thought. total confusion time as opposed to part- time. I think I'll shut up now, its working again!! :o


Has anyone got any suggestions for Retro Mars in Leo, please? Something to start me off? "All the thinks I could think" have all thunked out! :eek:

Thanks a lot

take care

hel

[Lapis]

hel141,

Retro Merc in Aquarius? Wow! Yes, one of the first things one has to learn about perceiving 'things' both psychically and just through an expanded state of consciousness, is to become really good at unfocused focus or aggressively passiveperception! To perceive and retain information and images etc. that exist at a higher faster dimension, we have to learn how to look without looking directly. Much like seeing non-physical beings only with your peripheral vision. When you turn your head to look at it directly, it's invisible to that type of physical 'looking'! You have to train yourself to use other tools to see and perceive and hear and.........;) This retro Merc does this naturally I feel.

I'd guess with these two retrograde placements that's what you're having to learn about at different levels. With Merc retro in Aquarius that you're able to tap into the collective consciousness (both on Earth and larger Humanity) and also the akashic. I'd think you could perceive also by jumping time both forward and into the past and get some info about how the human group cycles through phases of learning. This is a potent placement for Merc hel, and explains why you see and experience 'reality' the way you do much of the time!

[Lapis]

AquariusMoon,

At the old forum those quotes in green and orange worked. Not here however! You could go blind trying to just look at those colored quotes here.

I was so glad when I discovered that you too had Merc retro. (in Gemini right?) Mine is retro in Sag and when transiting Merc goes retro, I could not understand some of the things you'd post to save my life! It was so frustrating not to mention highly embarrassing. It's like some mental wires get crossed and some things look to me like Chinese no matter how hard I struggle with them. I finally learned to relax and let it go, then things get easier when Merc is transiting retrograding. :cool:
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" Retrograde Neptune Personality -

The personality of the individual with Retrograde Neptune is not easily understood by others. His motives do not possess the common sense that one expects to be at the root of all moivation. Instead, he vibrates to a higher music, heard only to himself. His perceptions do not come from the material plane, but are a direct connection with his Soul. Thus, he can be highly spiritual but cares little for the formed side of orthodox religion. He can have a great love for music, but cannot ascribe to any definite man-made structure within it. He senses practically everything, but he relates his senses much less to physical reality than to his perception of a cosmic universe. He knows much more than he could ever put into words, for here again he realizes the limiting qualities of language as being but just another formed boundary which could encircle his infinite understanding. He is able to see the appearances and illusions that others live in, and therefore has to try to make the best bargain between not toppling their sand castles, while retaining all the inner truths he knows."

"Retrograde Neptune in Libra -

"......the individual impersonally absorbs impressions from his environment. He usually thinks that all of the feelings he experiences are his own and that they ultimately demand some type of action or solution on his part. The truth is, however, that this placement goves the individual an opportunity to ecperience much of the universe while not truly being obligated to personalize it. He is highly sensitive, particularly to music and the arts, and has a great dal of difficulty with the harshness of life, to which he is overly open. In order to balance himself he makes to mistake that he must balance all that is around him........."

"When this configuration is correctly used, it gives the individual a tremendous amount of insight into the mirror of himself, or that part of his identity which he sees through the eyes of others. Karmically he can learn to integrate better with his society through this type of vision. At the same time he will be further removed from the basic essence of himself because he seeks to experience himself through others. He can reach happiness when he realizes that one does not reach for happiness but that it is found within as a more or less permanent state of contentment with one's individual life experience and the minute part one plays in the totality of the cosmic plan."

Karmic Astrology - Retrogrades and Reincarnation Vol 2 Martin Schulman 1977.
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Interesting for all of us with Neptune in Libra. Mine isn't retro but I could certainly relate to much of this material.......as I know others here with Neptune in Libra will.

[Lorielle]

Retro Mercury 27 Aquarius
Retro Uranus 23 Leo
Retro Pluto 6 Virgo
Retro Neptune 11 Scorpio

Grand water trine, Sun, Mars, and Neptune... I worked as a professional psychic for 2 years... but I can't read for myself to save my soul.

Lori

[AquariusMoon]

Thanks, Lapis. Much rings true. How silly of me to dismiss every retro but Merc, which I notice so acutely almost every day. Now I can see that Nepi retro is a biggie. I'll def have to dig out that Schulman book.

Lorielle, my intuitive friends can't read for theirselves either. Perhaps there is a veil that everyone has as to their own life in certain respects, certain clouded areas. Sounds like Neptune to me :confused:

AqMoon

[Light]

Lori

I'm so glad to 'meet' another retro aquarian merc :) In my very limited experience I havn't come across a direct one, never mind retro!

BTW your Uranus is on my Mars, your pluto is on my MC and our Neptunes are sitting next to each other on the lilo! Way beyond my capabilities to understand/work out what that means - but...just following trends as on other boards :o I'll get there though - eventually.


Out of curiosity, how did you discover you were psychic? What happens when you read for your self? Sorry if its too many questions, but I am really interested in this sort of thing. Blame Parkers for falling on me :o Ok, so it missed my head - but the after effects are as if it did - it opened up a whole new world. :)



Lapis

So, the people walking down the corridors out of the corner of my eye, who aren't really there, and the music they play when there's no music... How do I train this?

Time shifts - yes, but only if I narrow it down. That's how I think, like a constant cross checking, a limiting valve. Perhaps I need to expand the ...wavelenght...frequency...higher vibrations...I now understand what you mean. :) This has literally just come to me. Big hugs. How to do this, that's another matter. Deep thought required for that one.

Thanks again

take care, everyone

hel

[Lapis]

AquariusMoon,

For a long time I too had a hard time deeply understanding natal retrograde planets. Like you say, Merc rx natally is in your face :p all the time no matter what! But the other planets are a bit harder for me at least, to really get a strong clear understanding of. It's like all that planetary energy is torqued around and moving inside your consciousness and personal world really differently than if it was direct natally. The 'Twilight Zone' effect! ;)

I also think that the whole linear time business gets put on hold with natal retrograde planets. They seems to be better suited to travel in multiple directions like inner and all over, instead of a hard stream of focused tunnel-vision like energy with direct motion.

Lorielle,

I know what you mean about not being able to 'see' for yourself. It's normal, otherwise the incarnation would sort of become invalidated or just not hold all the learning impact for sensitives/psychics etc. I can tell when I'm in a strong personal learning phase because I get real 'dumb' instantly! ;) I can't seem to understand some things, I can't psychically see the answers as I usually can and I'm temporarily cut off from those other parts of myself and awareness. That's my clue that I'm in learning mode and stop trying to access info/images in my usual way. It's almost opposite from what other people experience. Retrogrades natally??? :D Yeah, I think there's a big connection.

[Elianah]

Hi all,

I have only one natal retrograde: Saturn in Sagittarius in the 1st house. It is conjunct my Moon. I have lived through one progressed retrograde: Mercury from Virgo into Leo and back (it went retrograde when I was in high school and return to the point it turned retrograde in the mid-90s).

Saturn Rx for me is a highly internalized place. I have chosen in the past to use the Saturn Rx energy to trust more of what the "public" was saying about me than my own truth. I have chosen in the past to use the Saturn Rx energy to build structures in my life that conformed to what the public defined as "me" and what I should be doing rather than structures that truly reflected my soul in this lifetime. I have tended to trust the public's authority more than my own soul's authority. If I thought I couldn't meet the public's expectations, then I would not do it. I used the "taskmaster" energy of Saturn to beat myself up for not doing what the public told me to do. The public here can mean the small public of the family/tribe (Moon/Cancer), the medium sized public of small groups and community where people have "face-to-face" relationships (Uranus/Saturn/Aquarius), and the "Public," where everyone is included (Saturn/Capricorn).

Elianah

[Manic_Monday]

I have Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and True Node retrograde. That's quite a lot, isn't it? :rolleyes:

[Howl]

I *think* everyone's true node is retrograde, so you can scratch at least one! :)

I thought that I had none, and recently found out that my chiron is going backwards, hmmm.

[Arian Maverick]

I *think* everyone's true node is retrograde, so you can scratch at least one!

Actually, I believe this depends upon which calculation you use for the True Node; the one which takes into account the "wobbling" of the Moon will sometimes have the nodal axis in direct motion, while the mean calculation eliminates this altogether ;)

Arian Maverick

[Howl]

Ummmm, which one does astrodienst use? Heheh. I am an electronic generation astrologer ;)

[Arian Maverick]

Ummmm, which one does astrodienst use? Heheh. I am an electronic generation astrologer

Don't worry, Howl...so am I! :D

I believe Astrodienst (http://www.astro.com/) does not use the mean calculation; therefore, it is indeed possible for the nodal axis to be in direct motion.

However, I certainly would not count a retrograde nodal axis among other retrograde planets...

Arian Maverick

[Lapis]

hel,

:D Very well done you!

Yes that's what I've been talking about. It's about us, our ability to speed up or slow down our personal frequency, our rate of energetic vibration, which is what causes us to see/hear/feel/communicate with other beings in other levels of different 'realities'. I won't totally blow this thread with a long post about this stuff, but add for the astrologers that I feel retrograde planets both natally and in transit, open up this ability more than direct planets.

Just know that you can do it, and have been doing it hel! Intend that you'll experience more and more of this type of thing.....and you will. It's that easy now. Wasn't always, but is today and tomorrow. Again, very well done.:cool:

[StarrySkies]

I have just one retrograde, my Jupiter in Cancer in the 6th House. I'm not totally sure as to how it's manifested in my life yet.

[Betelgeuse]

I have Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto retrograde... I was a bad person in my past lifes :( .

[freedomlover]

Betelgeuse,

Not according to Lapis' post a couple posts before yours! According to that you are just more open to spiritual experiences..... And that's GOOD, NOT BAD;)

[freedomlover]

OH! And I have Mercury retrograde in Sag in the 12th,
and Jupiter retrograde in Gemini in the 6th.

[StarrySkies]

Yeah, Betelgeuse, it IS good to have more retrograde plaanets! Now you're making me wish I had more...:(

[Betelgeuse]

Betelgeuse,

Not according to Lapis' post a couple posts before yours! According to that you are just more open to spiritual experiences..... And that's GOOD, NOT BAD;)

Yes I know :) , life forced me to take some lessons, retrogrades can be good in a evolutionary way, but some lessons can be painfull sometimes, " No pain, no gain! " that's what I like to say and these lessons are needed to be learned, cause I didn't learn them in past lifes, that's why I was bad. :p .

Note to say, 3 years ago, I was a very selfish person, quite evil, vindicative, big liar, aggresive, egocentric etc, not the same guy you see it now, cause I had events in my life that showed how good can God be whit us, miracles can really happen, I must try some way to return the favor, by changing myself and my ways in life.

Yeah, Betelgeuse, it IS good to have more retrograde plaanets! Now you're making me wish I had more...:(

Cheer up! cause I saw very special persons whit no retrogrades at all, some whit great psychic capacities and spiritual valor, makes me sometimes wanna say " I want no Rx like them " :p

Also if you use symbolic progressions ( 1 day = 1 year ) check the ephemeris to see when a planet goes Rx or direct in certain period of life. My Pluto gone direct when I was 11 years old, that results was from 11 days after my birth when Pluto gone direct on those transits.

[Belgianmoonguy]

I have Jupiter in Aqua Retro in 6
Saturn in 3 in Scorpio R (intercepted)
Uranus in 4 in Sag R
Neptune in 4 in Cap R (opposing Sun)
Pluto in 3 in Scorpio R (intercepted)

My Pluto turned direct 18 days after my birth...

[business voodoo]

retro saturn, chiron venus here ...

i love retrogrades!

[Tipped Scales]

I have one retrograde, Pisces Jupiter in the first house.

[Lissa]

Just Jupiter in Leo,in house 7.

[L.C.]

my retrogrades:

Uranus in Libra
Neptune in Sagittarius
Pluto in Libra

and, according to Astro.com, I have retrograde "true node" in Sagittarius!

[wintersprite1]

3 here also,

Mercury in Capricorn in the 12th

Uranus in Virgo
conjunct Pluto in Virgo in the 8th...

Hmmm, looks like my day of reckoning will be me absentmindedly sticking my head in a blender to see what is jammed. :eek:

TK:p

[Carole]

Only Uranus in Leo, 10th house. And my life has always been plagued by eerie events, like sensing presences and hearing voices... Not sure if Uranus retrograde is the culprit, though.:confused:


Carole

[GeminianCancer]

I have five retrograde planets: my Mercury in Cancer, Saturn and Uranus in Sag, Neptune in Capricorn, and Pluto in Scorpio! So half my planets are retrograde!

[starbuck]

Ace,
i once read that Rx is energy expressed internally.
starbuck

[babeldaob]

Four: the three generational ones and Venus Rx conj MC in H9 Gemini, wide conj Sun. Venus Rx (and Sun) is opp Neptun Rx in H3 Sag, Neptun Rx in H3 is sextile Pluto Rx in H1 in Libra. Neptun Rx is also square Mars and Jupin Virgo H12, Pluto Rx square Mercury in Cancre H11 and trine the Venus Rx and the Sun.

A few heavy transits these days. :rolleyes:

BabelD

[flea]

Jupiter retrograde in first Mercury retrograde in 6th both in their detriment and depositing eachother. Cant quite work that one out how my two R's are so connected.

Love&Light
Flea

[tsquare]

posted by Lapis

Retrograde Neptune In Sagittarius -

Here, the individual experiences a heightened consciousness of the world and his place in it. He learns to live without anchoring himself to roots. Instead, he lives a more natural existence, flowing with the currents of his fortune.

He is a free spirit with very few attachments that are meaningful to him on the physical plane. With almost a prophetic insight into the future, he can grasp the essence of things in a moment, but he has difficulty stabilizing himself in every day practical matters. He will play a great role in delivering the spiritual message of the Aquarian Age. His life is built on the expansion of formless horizons he senses within himself. At the same time, he is an endless giver of information and knowledge to others.

"......He is a dreamer of the first order. But his dreams are more of a vision for mankind rather than fulfillment of personal desires.

"More than with other placements, this gives a powerful sense of the cosmic whole happening within oneself......

...."Karmicallly, he is not to be bound by anything other than what he perceives as the deepest truths within himself. He will avoid mass movements, organizations, clubs, the institution of marriage, and any other man-made structure which prevents him from experiencing all that he feels inside."
spot on! that makes alot of sence for my neptune retrograde sagitarius 5H
I also have uranus retrograde in sagitarius but its in the 4th. i tend to wander, listening to the spheres. I tend to focus on music that pops people out of there heads. not violenly, but where you listen to it and reality breaks down. and then its still reality yet reality has changed time and space have changed I also have a hard time explaning things to people in language because of the stupidity of it, I notice that when I speak its often me talking to their brain and there preprogramed machinery automatic responses social circuts, like robots where im more like......just there. these people frusterate me. they cant do anything "telepathic" they cant just look and know something without talking about it for 12years and then they didnt do anything with their lives. Groups freak me out also. Fanatacism terifies me, and destroys everything I love about religion. They make it too structured and then there is mass worship robotic claping , put 5 dollars in the box and you go to heaven type stuff. Zealots hate me I do my best to avoid them completely. they give me the invitation to hate them back, which I do my best to personally cleanse my self of.

......He is a dreamer of the first order. But his dreams are more of a vision for mankind rather than fulfillment of personal desires.
true but understated. for me It runs more like ....he realizes that he is here now and that other people most often dont know where they are being, or when they are being (in their minds, past present future,) he realizes he is here among a truckload of human machines so fixated on "personal" goals far from there true nature, and dont know their own truth or power so substitute Knowing about something for truly knowing. Seeking his SELF ACTUALIZATION he finds them terifying for they have never seen the "place" where 2 + 2= 5 and that its here....RIGHT NOW and have no care too. if youve never seen it why would you want it, he understands. he sees context where others see 100,000 facts. He doesnt compare himself with others knowing its useless, and avoids those games. he sees everything at once inward and outward in an instant already knows the answer yet others will try to get him to "figure out" the answer. he seeks his own personal truths knowing that knowledge is power which takes responsibility and controll and that leads to aplication without robotism. Seeks a better future for mankind for the reason of Compassion and loving ones self as another(high affinity). Realizes true love is created every moment fresh.

I get the urge to "make a difference" and "bring change" quite often but I always have to remind myself to be carefull. People dont change that fast in a productive way, you cant force change, as in real growth..change. it has to want to first. Goverments and people in power use cattle prods too often in their "for their own good" additude. I do deffinatly have dreams of a better world but I am focused on creating it now. as in present time now.
Some people dont desire any change at all. With whats going on in the world now thats sad. so I can never quite tell if people are unconsious or what. Some people call me pecimistic or "focusing on the negative"
but for me its just that I see so much untapped potential in people that I see nothing but ways to improve.
but it may just be my neptune pluto sextile as well.
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[*Fallen Angel*]

I have 4 Retrograde planets, Jupiter R in Leo 11th house, Saturn R in Virgo Conjunct the Asc, Uranus R in Scorpio in the 3rd house and I think this planet is stationary, I will have check it out. Pluto R in Libra in my 2nd house.

I have read in Jeff Greens book that the Retrograde archetype serves to accelerate the evolution of the soul. It does so by rejecting or rebelling against the consensus expectation of how the planet should be actualized. A planet that is retrograde will feel disconnected from the consensus-it does not fit. Thus the feeling of being disconnected promotes a psychological withdrawal from the consensus, and a feeling of isolation results. But the positive function of this process is this-by internalizing the function of a planet that is retrograde, a natural individuation of the planet begins. The person with the retrograde is required to experience and define the planetary archetype personally. This evolutionary process of individuation promotes and accelerates the evolutionary progression of an individual. Apparently it can take the soul more than one lifetime to actualise and fully individuate the planet that is retrograde.

To be honest I have never really paid a lot of attention to my planets which are Retrograde, apart from my Jupiter R because it squares Chiron in the 9th house which also relates to Jupiter and the Sun in my chart diposits Jupiter and is opposed Saturn. I just wonder what all this means sometimes.

[Yoi]

I have zero retrogrades. What does this mean for karma?

[tsquare]

Fallen Angel-
I have read in Jeff Greens book that the Retrograde archetype serves to accelerate the evolution of the soul. It does so by rejecting or rebelling against the consensus expectation of how the planet should be actualized. A planet that is retrograde will feel disconnected from the consensus-it does not fit. Thus the feeling of being disconnected promotes a psychological withdrawal from the consensus, and a feeling of isolation results. But the positive function of this process is this-by internalizing the function of a planet that is retrograde, a natural individuation of the planet begins. The person with the retrograde is required to experience and define the planetary archetype personally. This evolutionary process of individuation promotes and accelerates the evolutionary progression of an individual. Apparently it can take the soul more than one lifetime to actualise and fully individuate the planet that is retrograde.

Wow, that very well explains it. I have had this to the extreme as of the last few years. Im just learning about transits and progressions and going by progression I have right now Pluto in the5thH sitting almost directly on top of my natal neptune in retrogtrade. Its been quite odd.

[sara31tx]

I have Saturn in Cancer in the 10 retrograde
Uranus in Scorpio in the 1 retrograde
Neptune in Saggittarius in 2 stationary retrogrde
Pluto in Libra in the 12 retrograde
T.Node in Scorpio in 1 retrograde

[Sag Moon]

Sara
while most think that Rx planets are a negative influence I do not as there are many people that have Rx planets that work out fine.

My opinion is that Rx planets work on an internal level more than an outward level if the planet was Direct and Stationary planets work on a different level all together.

I have Ju/Sa/Ne Rx and Pl SD which works on an evolutionary level and creates much Havoc in my life.

Ju Rx works with an unorthordox view concerning religious beliefs.Not in a negative manner just that I do not trust organized religion and tend to keep my views private until asked.

Sa has to do with the Fatehr figure more than anything else.

Bill Tierney has a good book on Rx planets.

Ne I really do not have a view on that I can give a substansive anser at the moment.

[sara31tx]

Here are the definitions of my retrogrades in my chart.

Retrograde Saturn in Cancer and 10th House: This person's part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is introspective, emotional,
protective, and wants inner and outer security. Most often this manifests in
an independent, backward, introverted manner, and in the area of life dealing
with career, social stature, and destiny. (This bit plays only a minor part
in their psyche.)


Retrograde Uranus in Scorpio and 1st House: This person's individuality,
desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms is very
penetrating, suspicious, introspective, and desires to transform and remove
outer masks. Most often this manifests in an independent, backward,
introverted manner, and in the area of life dealing with establishment of
personal identity. It is easy for them to express this part of themself.

Retrograde Neptune in Sagittarius and 2nd House: This person's intuitive,
spiritual, compassionate, psychic nature is jovial, open minded, loves
freedom, and seeks meaning and new experience. Most often this manifests in an independent, backward, introverted manner, and in the area of life dealing with self image, self worth, and material security. It is easy for them to express this part of themself.

Retrograde Pluto in Libra and 12th House: This person's destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world is affectionate, tolerant, often indecisive, appreciates beauty, and seeks balance, relationship, and
calmness. Most often this manifests in an independent, backward, introverted
manner, and in the area of life dealing with things that disrupt or cause
disassociation with the personality.


Retrograde Juno in Virgo and 11th House: This person's tendency to give away individual power for the benefit of a relationship is very analytical,
critical, modest, helpful, and works toward perfection. Most often this
manifests in an independent, backward, introverted manner, and in the area of life dealing with the future, life goals, and association with friends and
groups.

Retrograde North Node in Scorpio and 1st House: This person's karmic goals, andbest direction of evolutionary growth is penetrating, suspicious,
introspective, and desires to transform and remove outer masks. Most often
this manifests in the area of life dealing with establishment of personal
identity.

[Moulin]

does anyone know if Chiron R is counted and what it means please?

:)

[Liquid Green]

I have Saturn and Pluto retro.
I have a Saturn ruled chart.

[Arian Maverick]

I'm a bit confused; are we counting stationary retrograde planets in with retrograde planets? Because I think I voted in this poll a while ago and didn't count my stationary retrograde Uranus--just retrograde Pluto.

I'm a usually a bit technical about these things, so I consider a stationary retrograde planet to be not quite retrograde.

I suppose it's to each his own, though...

does anyone know if Chiron R is counted and what it means please?

This is also a good question; we should have added clearer specifications.

Arian Maverick

[Liquid Green]

Ok.. My mercury retrograde rule my whole chart... :)

Are you taking the ****?

[bx2boca]

I just found your website recently, but I love it! I am not sure what it actually all means(would love to find out!) but I have 3 planets retrograde, it seems: Jupiter(16 Tau 12'48"), in my 2rd house, Uranus(14 Vir 45'59") in my 6th house and Pluto, also 6th in Virgo (16 Vir 16'21").

[gesura]

If retrograde planets work in a different way, what would be an effect on a person with Jupiter Rx? jupiter is in the 5th house.

I'm a telepath and just found out...

[Mr. Conjunct]

I have only 1 retro planet and that is Mercury in Capricorn 11th house. Mercury is my 4th and 7th house ruler. In school I was at first a bit slow learner and when Mercury went forward in progression, problems disappeared.

[jkley]

i have saturnretro exhalted in my second house conjunct jupiter in libra which forms a mutual reception with venus in capricorn in the fourth... how would this play out? especially venus being my sole dispositer...

....this discription of retro saturn, actually is really accurate for me...

"Persons with Saturn Retrograde in their birth charts do not like to be known in public, they find security in intellectuals or spirituals. They easily yield to external influences. They appear shy, uneasy, introvert, lacking in self assertion or attempt to cover their lapse with the pretext of arrogance. They feel alone, isolated, separated from their friends and are seldom understood and very reserved."

[AnnaViolet7]

Hey,

Interesting thread...someone on an astrology group told me that people with many retrograde planets are 'fixers' they intuitively know what must be done to fix situations...she said that it is said people with Neptune rx lived a long long time ago on Atlantis...Jupiter rx indicates a need to control oneself in this life..


HELLO KATE 0406!!!
I have the exact same placings as you how funny! :D

Also have Saturn and Jupiter conj Libra in 12th rx and also Uranus..

So I got 5...Still trying to discern the influence...


[quote=kate0406]Hello there

I also have Neptune in Sag retrograde in the third house as well as pluto in Lib first and uranus in scorp 2nd. I can relate to being extra sensitive around people's energies and sometimes like to be alone because of this...I guess I'm not very grounded in everyday life and can be a bit of a dreamer! i would also be interested in finding out more about my retrograde planets, somebody told me they are planets we grow into later on in life and find hard to access early on??? Not sure, but I do find it difficult to access that uranus in scorp energy which is square saturn...Will check out those links..


I am really interested if anyone would be able to tell me if there is any special significance to planets that are stationary? I noticed in a friends chart he has 2 planets stationary..someone else here said they would view them differently to retro planets and I would too...but how I am still trying to work out!

Anna :)

[Svencanz]

None,

Sven
(could have something to do with me being called a one-man tornado?)

[Neptune Rising]

I've got two

Saturn in Cancer in the 7th - this might mean marriage comes later, well I'm 33 and relatively free. I also think this is a karmic aspect meaning I have to put a lot of effort into my relationships, I cannot just ride the energy of relationship. I had a past life regression done this year which showed me some of what I'm meant to do in this life. Amazing. Saturn in the 7th is definately an indicator of the work I must put in with others, and retrograde could show the link with the past (life).

Pluto in the 9th near the MC - not too sure about this one. It could show my intense interest in studying various religions. I think this aspect improves with time and experiences, as one ages. I can see how the years I've been interested in various philosophies has contributed to me now using this knowledge and putting it all together in a way that I can understand and I can use to help others.

NR

[autumnleaf]

I have only one as well: Saturn @ the end of the 6th but usually interpreted in the 7th. I can tell you that I have always liked older men. I'm dating one who is 14 yrs my senior, and I'm almost 40 and still haven't married. I don't know how the retrograde affects it though. :confused:

[Neptune Rising]

I have only one as well: Saturn @ the end of the 6th but usually interpreted in the 7th. I can tell you that I have always liked older men. I'm dating one who is 14 yrs my senior, and I'm almost 40 and still haven't married. I don't know how the retrograde affects it though. :confused:

Lol me too. My Saturn in the 7th. Always at least 9 years older than me, and I consider that to be young! I dated someone 25 years older than me once. The more I think about marriage, the more I value my current lack of responsibility/freeness, even though I'm intensly loyal and responsible to whoever I'm seeing.

I think retrograde makes the fruit from the hard work come a bit later in life, or makes relationships improve with age/time/experience/Saturn. Maybe it even turns the energy of the planet inwards, so we have a chance to introspect and learn more from it... because if its a past karma that we chose to work through in this life, we would need to introspect to do so. (if you believe in past life) :)

NR

[autumnleaf]

Lol me too. My Saturn in the 7th. Always at least 9 years older than me, and I consider that to be young! I dated someone 25 years older than me once. The more I think about marriage, the more I value my current lack of responsibility/freeness, even though I'm intensly loyal and responsible to whoever I'm seeing.

I think retrograde makes the fruit from the hard work come a bit later in life, or makes relationships improve with age/time/experience/Saturn. Maybe it even turns the energy of the planet inwards, so we have a chance to introspect and learn more from it... because if its a past karma that we chose to work through in this life, we would need to introspect to do so. (if you believe in past life) :)

NR


:38: Yes, nine years older is "young". Though I got ya beat there. I dated this one guy for 8 yrs who is 3 yrs older. Oddly enough, he's a Sagi. That bit about introspection; I think I do too much and over-critique things in typical Scorp fashion. I certainly don't need Saturn Rx to add fuel to this fire! But you can see where I run into trouble. :rolleyes:

[Vardigon]

As far as this one goes, it appears that I get to be part of the lucky (however you interpret it) .0005(.005?)% of people with six retrograde planets in their chart. They are Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. *giggles* The outer planets are in my first house except for Pluto in the 11th, and the Inners are in 6 and 7 majorly, Jupiter in five and Aries in 3.

[ALST123]

I only have one (unless Chiron counts aswell) and that is ye olde Saturn (bummer). But my Dad had 5 (6 if you count Chiron) and he had a really hard life, but was an absolutely amazing person. Everyone always agreed that there was no-one as kind, knowing, fair, intelligent or wise as him. I think the 5 rx relates to all the lessons he was given to learn. You know the old saying "You're only dealt what you can handle." or something like that.

Cheers,
Ax.

[ALST123]

Just read your post, AutumnLeaf.

I have only one as well: Saturn @ the end of the 6th but usually interpreted in the 7th. I can tell you that I have always liked older men. I'm dating one who is 14 yrs my senior, and I'm almost 40 and still haven't married. I don't know how the retrograde affects it though. :confused:

V. interesting. My saturn rx is in exactly the same place, and it is in Cancer too.

this might mean marriage comes later

Didn't for me. But then my marriage did adhere to the Saturn Return rules iro Saturn in 7th whereby if you marry before you hit 30 the relationship peters out.

I also think this is a karmic aspect meaning I have to put a lot of effort into my relationships, I cannot just ride the energy of relationships


Totally. It's a tough lesson to learn. My ex-h has Saturn rx in Cancer too, although not sure of house placement. Seems it was a lesson for both of us!

Ax.

[Monkey_Business]

Sorry to say I do not have any.....:eek:

[nbkc4d8]

I too have saturn retrograde at the end of the 6th in cancer. Its got to generational. im 34. but i have never wanted to marry. the idea of marriage has always made me nauseous. I however only date younger! Recently though i fell in love and actually wanted to marry him but the relationship failed! He's saturn retrograde too. I decided i hated saturn a long time ago!! :p

[ALST123]

I too have saturn retrograde at the end of the 6th in cancer. Its got to generational. im 34. but i have never wanted to marry. the idea of marriage has always made me nauseous. I however only date younger! Recently though i fell in love and actually wanted to marry him but the relationship failed! He's saturn retrograde too. I decided i hated saturn a long time ago!! :p

Totally! It *****!

Ax.

[normak]

I have retrograde Chiron in the 12th in Taurus. Does that count? What does that mean, I wonder? I had heard it had something to do with healing instincts, etc....

[hermetic]

a good friend has six, all from Mars to Pluto, and I will just say life has not been kind to her. But to me she is like someone who's been here long before us, very wise and genuine, and I do believe she's an old soul, she has to be - to bear all the miseries life brought upon her. she manages to smile quite a lot, too ;)

[woolgatherer]

I have 5 retrogrades: Jupiter in Aquarius in the 11th, Saturn in Scorpio in the 7th, Uranus in the 8th, Neptune in the 9th and Pluto in the 7th house.

I definitely have an inward focus overall. Those Saturn retrograde interpretations in particular are unfortunately pretty accurate for me. I'm shy, not assertive enough and feel pretty isolated and different from other people.

[barthelemy]

i have two:

JupiterAries29°34'41in house 5retrograde

and

NeptuneCapricorn5°19'32in house 2retrograde
(yeah i am doubting myself on a whole)

[AnnaViolet7]

I wonder if all of us with 5 or more have had a tough life then? Just read some previous posts indicating this..and I have from Jupiter to Pluto too and my younger life has been full of sorrows too...i guess being able to look inwards is the key really to connect to inner resources to get you thru it..

[Reyka]

[...]
Did you know that 36% of the charts of US presidents had zero retrograde planets? Very interesting read.
[...]

That is interesting. It nullifies what I had read:
"people with at least 3 retrograde planets are destined to be/become famous." [EDIT: Maybe they become famous because they have it harder than the rest, and still fight and succed?...] I should check some V.I.P. chart to that end...

Those of you who posted you have more than 3 retrograde planets, can you tell us what you do, or if you are famous, well established, in any way?
Cheers.

[jamiescott]

Hi Vichy91, which town? I spent some time in Stromsund.

[doublecrossed fish]

I have five...all of the planets from Jupiter to Pluto. i also have two grand crosses (weak ones), a grand trine in water, Pisces Sun and Saturn in Scorpio in the 6th.

I thought I found my perfect partner a couple of years ago. But, she has Venus Retrograde in Gemini in the 9th inconjunct Saturn in Scorpio in the 2nd and squaring both her Pluto and mine in Leo. Currently, there are SEVEN major seven series aspects in our composite chart. And, did I mention that Pluto has begun it's 14-year transit of my 8th house?

I've been saying that I've wanted to take an ecstatic dance through hell...:)

[nejispirit]

I have retrograde in:

Aries Venus in the 8th
Scorpio Saturn in the 3rd
Sagittarius Uranus in the 4th
Scorpio Pluto in the 3rd;

Libra Juno in the 2nd
Scorpio Vesta in the 3rd

My biggest woes come from my Venus in retrograde, alas :rolleyes:

[Soul Friend]

Retro Mercury 27 Aquarius
Retro Uranus 23 Leo
Retro Pluto 6 Virgo
Retro Neptune 11 Scorpio

Grand water trine, Sun, Mars, and Neptune... I worked as a professional psychic for 2 years... but I can't read for myself to save my soul.

Lori

Hi Lorielle,

You're not the only one. My missus is a 7th generation tea leaf reader and while she has an amazing accuracy with outsiders we in her own family sometimes feel quite frustrated by her. I've been known to call her the psychic without a clue. sshh! Don't tell her I said that. I've known a number of folks to prefer swapping readings. Maybe that's why. Personally I feel the things I need to know, I'm given. ;)

[Sesame]

R neptune / 28 scorpio
R pluto / 23 virgo
R jupiter / 1 libra
R uranus / 1 libra
R venus / 26 aries :86: that really makes my day :rolleyes:

love ;

[Valis]

I have only one as well: Saturn @ the end of the 6th but usually interpreted in the 7th. I can tell you that I have always liked older men. I'm dating one who is 14 yrs my senior, and I'm almost 40 and still haven't married. I don't know how the retrograde affects it though.

I have retrograde saturn in Virgo in the 7th
(and it's part or a T-cross: squaring venus in Gemini in the 5th and R neptune sag in the 11th...)

I've always dated men about my age and am married...and now having my saturnal return... and a baby.

I also have retrograde uranus scorpio in the 9th house, retrograde Pluto (conjuct my moon) in Libra the 8th, retrograde neptune in sag in the 11th.

And I have Jupiter Stationary direct in Virgo in the 7th which is conjunct Mars in Leo 7th (and nn in Leo). These two form a grand trine with R neptune in sag 11th and Mercury Aries in the 2nd house. :rolleyes:

[angeldust]

hahah i have 5 ,jupiter neptune uran saturn and pluto ..
but i find that to be a blessing .
i would not like a boring life.

also i wonder if these people with 0 retrogates can understand us others?
have u ever thought of that?

and i m also curious what chiuron retrograde means>?

[Chimerical]

I have 3
Neptune in Sag, 1st house
Jupiter in Aquarius, 3rd house
Mercury in Cancer, 9th house :(

I also have chiron retrograde..I'm not sure what that means, and it's in my 6th house...thoughts anyone?

[hermetic]

also i wonder if these people with 0 retrogates can understand us others?


good question. I have only one retrograde planet and feel so much 'younger' than several people I know with 4, 5 or 6 retro planets.
It often feels like I will never be able to truly understand them, no matter how close we are. Young vs. Old souls as you may,..

[Virinchi]

Effects of Retrograde Planets in Horoscope
http://www.illuminate.in/plugins/content/content.php?content.133

usually most of us have atleast 1 retro planet

Retrograde Planets in Horoscope & Past Life Connections
http://www.illuminate.in/plugins/content/content.php?content.14

[KosmicMind]

I have five retrogrades, and interestingly they are all above the horizon, I have always pondered what this could symbolize.

Jupiter Rx Aquarius 12th
Neptune Rx Capricorn 10th
Saturn Rx Scorpio 9th
Pluto Rx Scorpio 8th

I have found Saturn Rx to be the most difficult and obvious to most, usually relating to "bad" parenting (usually the father), or as I call lacking a dominant pack leader in early life. The authoritative fatherly role was missing or was too passive and lacked the ability to provide strong leadership.



also i wonder if these people with 0 retrogates can understand us others?
have u ever thought of that?

I have wondered the same thing, and I personally think they have a hard time understanding or relating to "retrograde types". I think it was Martin Schulman who coined that phrase, that if you have a certain amount of retrograde planets you're considered that. I have always felt alienated and just "different" from most people. Retrograde individuals are extremely introverted and internalized, and tend to do things literally backwards from the rest, so other people who are more "direct", just don't get it or find us weird, lol. But I think it's a necessary part of life, the retrograde challenges the status quo, and people who take on that archetype bring new things into the world or provide others with a different perspective.

and i m also curious what chiuron retrograde means>?
I read somewhere that Chiron retrograde means that you have had past lives as a healer or shaman and bring with you in this life powerful healing abilities, and are naturally drawn to various healing modalities, although I'm not sure how true that is. :confused:

Barbara Hand Clow relates it to a triple deity in Druidic theology, the three aspects of which are "Beli (future destroyer), Yesu (present and savior), and Taran (past and creator)". She largely draws from Shulman's perspective on retrogrades having three dimensions: the individual is either in the past, in the present, or moving ahead of themselves to the future. "This triple deity is present for those who have Chiron retrograde. That is, they are worried about the future and meaning of destructive forces; they feel the essence of the present or savior; they search for the esoteric meaning of the past or creation". [Clow, Barbara. Chiron: Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets. Pg. 191] So yeah, whatever that means, lol. I was a little disapointed in her overall interpretation, but basically she says individuals with Chiron retrograde are more drawn to the esoteric, magical, or occult dimensions of life, but so am I and I don't have Chiron retrograde. :rolleyes:

[DreamingTheSeas]

Hi,

Mercury Agua, Jupiter Libra, Uranus Libra, Pluto Virgo...all these retrogrades.

[Vagabondgirl]

I dont have any retro. But maybe chiron only... Maybe it doesnt count?? Isnt it always retro??

[KosmicMind]

I dont have any retro. But maybe chiron only... Maybe it doesnt count?? Isnt it always retro??

Chiron isn't always retrograde, and it does have significance. Possibly that the individual would be a lot more spiritual or mystical then they appear at first, most likely something a person would uncover only after getting to know them. Retrogrades tend to hide things, and so it can also be an indication that the individual is a healer, but that those qualities are hidden or dormant somehow, or only present in their immediate and personal lives.

[Vagabondgirl]

Chiron isn't always retrograde, and it does have significance. Possibly that the individual would be a lot more spiritual or mystical then they appear at first, most likely something a person would uncover only after getting to know them. Retrogrades tend to hide things, and so it can also be an indication that the individual is a healer, but that those qualities are hidden or dormant somehow, or only present in their immediate and personal lives.

Ok, thanx. I thought chiron was retro, but maybe for others born in my year?

I also have Chiron in the 1st house oppose Uranus in my 7th house sagittarius. Even worse? :D

Yes, Im a sort of healer or will be. Im in the health field, still a student though.

[EhTeam]

My fifth house is all retro.

Jupiture, 5th house, cap

Uranus + neptune, 5th house, Sag

[Oren]

6:

mars scorpio 11th
jupiter capricorn 1st
saturn scorpio 11th
uranus sagittarius end of house 12
neptune capricorn 1st
pluto scorpio end of house 10

7 if you count moon's node?
moon's node in gemini in 6th

all retrograde...:andy:

[KosmicMind]

6:

mars scorpio 11th
jupiter capricorn 1st
saturn scorpio 11th
uranus sagittarius end of house 12
neptune capricorn 1st
pluto scorpio end of house 10

7 if you count moon's node?
moon's node in gemini in 6th

all retrograde...:andy:

I suppose you could count the nodes, although their direct motion is actually retrograde, so interpretation would likely be different. In their intrinsic nature, the nodes indicate hidden abilities and karmic inheritances that lie deep in the psyche, and so perhaps being retrograde indicates that these qualities are a lot more accessible and in the open than for most people that have them "direct". Perhaps there is more awareness of one's pitfalls or even one's past lives.

[DreamingTheSeas]

Oh and my precious baby has only one retro but that is the hardest, Saturn in Virgo in 6th house!

[scorpittarian]

i've no retrogrades....my node too has D for direct next to it.:biggrin:

[ImNotThere9]

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[Horus]

I have the unfortunate karmic challenge of resolving a Taurean Saturn Rx opposite Scorpion Venus Rx! <wince> :pinched:

Here's skyviewzone's again:

http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm

I've read lots of different definitions out there and I'm not sure whose is accurate...so choose your illusion -carefully!

[pizzagirl543]

I have Venus R (Scorpio), Mercury R (Scorpio) and Saturn R (Pisces) woot...

[The Ram]

Saturn, Uranus and Pluto.

[Lion o ness]

My Rx planets are

Chrion Aries H1
Merc Leo H6
Neptune Sag H9
Jupiter Sag H10

Im not sure how to explain its effects, or how I feel it. :pinched:

[dreamtimez]

I am interested in Venus Rx ... no, I don't have it, my significant other has this. ;)

[dreamtimez]

Chiron isn't always retrograde, and it does have significance. Possibly that the individual would be a lot more spiritual or mystical then they appear at first, most likely something a person would uncover only after getting to know them. Retrogrades tend to hide things, and so it can also be an indication that the individual is a healer, but that those qualities are hidden or dormant somehow, or only present in their immediate and personal lives.


Yes, this interpretation is true. I have Chiron Rx in the 7th house (Aries).


It is difficult to know me, I keep people at arm's length, except a few. The reason is people have always hurt me ... maybe my Venus (Cancer) makes me too sensitive ! But over time I have learnt to distance myself and create space within relationships.

[AspieTaurus]

I have 4:

Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st House: Internal struggles over my sense of self.

Saturn in Sag in the 2nd House: Income problems.

Uranus in Sag in the 3rd House: Quirky political views

Neptune in Cappy in the 3rd House: I tend to retreat into my mind when things get bad.

[SniperBomber328]

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[kbell]

I have a challenging retrograde saturn in cancer in the 8th house opposite my venus.

[Jesusistheway]

I have six retrograde planets, mostly my outer planets, Mars to Pluto.

[dd198]

I have Mars, Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto, Neptune and Uranus all retrograde in through the first 3 houses. Looking forward to hearing any thoughts.

[Pan]

I have one retrogarde planet,

Chiron rx in the 3rd house - Taurus, I'm easy to hurt and lost myself by hard criticism and slow to make any decision cause of too worry about mistaken.