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iwonder
01-09-2009, 03:12 PM
How do you interpret planets in mutual reception? Can you substitute one for the other and pretend one has the same position and aspects as the other and vise versa? Or you keep in mind the duality of the situation and have two possible interpretations?

For example, Mercury in Libra and Venus in Virgo. Ideas must be beautiful and beautiful must be efficient and logical (back to Mercury). I see the connection. But what about aspects these two have? Mercury conjunct Uranus, for instance. Can I say Uranus conjunction applies to Venus just as it does to Mercury?

Mercury and Venus are personal planets, and connecting them is probably easier. What about Jupiter in Pisces and Neptune in Sagittarius? This combination is generational, I have it but don't quite understand.

Or the one I am more puzzled with - Sun in Scorpio and Pluto in Leo - one is a luminary, the other is an outer planet.

wilsontc
01-09-2009, 03:31 PM
wonder,

You asked:
How do you interpret planets in mutual reception? Can you substitute one for the other and pretend one has the same position and aspects as the other and vise versa? Or you keep in mind the duality of the situation and have two possible interpretations?...But what about aspects these two have? Mercury conjunct Uranus, for instance

I think it is important to keep interpreting mutual receptions separate from interpreting an aspect. Mutual receptions indicates each planet operates separately but the operation of each planet reinforces the other. In your example Mercury in Libra (Venus' sign) and Venus in Virgo (Mercury's sign) indicates that when a person uses their Mercury energies they find they need to use their Venus energies which causes a need for Mercury energies...and so on. But each energy operates on its own as well. The aspect Mercury conjunct Venus indicates the two energies are combined and operate as one, so the Mercury energy becomes part of the Venus energy and the Venus energy becomes part of the Mercury energy.

This difference of energy interaction is important, since any combination of planetary energies will be reinforced with a mutual reception, while some combination of planetary energies will become lessened with a conjunction. Let's take a mutual reception of Neptune and Saturn versus a conjunction of Neptune and Saturn. With the mutual reception each energy operates on its own with its own strength, so Neptune energy operates on its own strength and reinforces the strength of Saturn which reinforces the strength of Neptune...and so on. Now if these two were CONJUNCT instead, Neptune energy "dissolves" Saturn, making the Saturn energy much more "diluted" and weakened.

Mutually receptive,

Tim

iwonder
01-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Thank you, Tim. I see the difference. So planets in mutual reception require activation of each other and thus reinforce each other, but each acts as a separate energy, with its own set of aspects. They are not interchangeable.

And planet in mutual reception gets extra "points" when its strength in a chart is evaluated. Sort of like angular planets and planets in their own signs do. Right?

wilsontc
01-09-2009, 06:23 PM
wonder,

You asked:
And planet in mutual reception gets extra "points" when its strength in a chart is evaluated. Sort of like angular planets and planets in their own signs do. Right?

I don't use evaluation point systems, but I think that certainly there should be some sort of point recognition in these systems for planets in mutual reception.

Agreeing,

Tim

PD187540
03-31-2010, 04:53 AM
With regard to mutual receptions, I have one in my chart, and I'm interested in discovering its interpretation.

It pertains to my Sun and Venus: Sun in Libra, Venus in Leo (no aspects between them). The Venus is strongly conjunct my Mars in Leo in 8th House, both trine my 3rd House Moon and trine my 12th House Neptune (in effect forming 2 Grand Trines).

Do you think this is a good set-up for pursuing an acting career? I've always thought about it and had strong instinctual urges to delve into it. What do you think? I also have a Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in the 11th House (which could indicate the ability to develop beneficial contacts/networking). My Scorpio Midheaven could also indicate the types of roles I'd be great at.

Any help on this would be great!!! :smile:

astrologer50
03-31-2010, 06:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_reception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_reception)

PD187540
03-31-2010, 07:53 PM
Thank you for that link, but it really doesn't help me at all. I even read up on that specific article before I posted my question above, and it's of no help. It describes what a mutual reception is and how it's formed, but there's no interpretation for my special, unique MR in my chart.

We do know that Venus in Leo is the stronger planetary pair, since the Sun is in fall in Libra. However, there's nothing regarding the interpretation. If none of you guys could offer a possible interpretation, is there a free calculation available online that would give me the values of all my planets?

PD187540
04-01-2010, 11:40 PM
Thank you so much for that site! I've seen it before, but I never knew that they have a point system, too. Excellent :lol:

Claire19
04-02-2010, 01:16 AM
With regard to mutual receptions, I have one in my chart, and I'm interested in discovering its interpretation.

It pertains to my Sun and Venus: Sun in Libra, Venus in Leo (no aspects between them). The Venus is strongly conjunct my Mars in Leo in 8th House, both trine my 3rd House Moon and trine my 12th House Neptune (in effect forming 2 Grand Trines).

Do you think this is a good set-up for pursuing an acting career? I've always thought about it and had strong instinctual urges to delve into it. What do you think? I also have a Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in the 11th House (which could indicate the ability to develop beneficial contacts/networking). My Scorpio Midheaven could also indicate the types of roles I'd be great at.

Any help on this would be great!!! :smile:
Can u post your chart with transits and progressions from Astrodienst.
With mutual reception as you quoted, if there is no aspect between them you just take them for the aspects made elsewhere. So there is nothing mutual there.

Claire19
04-02-2010, 01:19 AM
Thank you for that link, but it really doesn't help me at all. I even read up on that specific article before I posted my question above, and it's of no help. It describes what a mutual reception is and how it's formed, but there's no interpretation for my special, unique MR in my chart.

We do know that Venus in Leo is the stronger planetary pair, since the Sun is in fall in Libra. However, there's nothing regarding the interpretation. If none of you guys could offer a possible interpretation, is there a free calculation available online that would give me the values of all my planets?
The Sun in Libra may be in what is called its fall but I dont use those terms and it has to be taken on its own merits and may be quite strong due to its aspects. The Venus may not be the stronger either. It all depends on the aspects made. You dont really have the mutual reception as the planets are not connected.

PD187540
04-02-2010, 01:22 AM
Certainly...here's my chart with the current transits and progressions....Let me know what this is all about in relation to my question(s) above. From what I read, a mutual reception still has some effect even if there's no specific aspect made between the planets. There's a mutual reception by sign there, but perhaps the signs themselves have some importance?