House XII is in aquarius-- is it really bad ??? [Archive]

Dracula

01-09-2009, 03:07 PM

House I 00 ° 21' ARIES
House II 06 ° 58' TAURUS
House III 05 ° 36' GEMINI
House IV 00 ° 14' CANCER
House V 24 ° 53' CANCER
House VI 23 ° 38' LEO
House VII 00 ° 21' LIBRA
House VIII 06 ° 58' SCORPIO
House IX 05 ° 36' SAGITTARIUS
House X 00 ° 14' CAPRICORN
House XI 24 ° 53' CAPRICORN
House XII 23 ° 38' AQUARIUS

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I have a software, which generated this, and lot more, i went to internet to search about it.

House XII is in aquarius, on internet i found it means i am alone, yes i am, and i will remain like it, and i have to learn to

live like it. I mean i dont like it, but is it true...????

what does these degrees means ??? i mean 23.38 is it bad, if it was more or less does this show the intensity of Aquarius.
is my houses are good.

wilsontc

01-09-2009, 03:20 PM

Dracula,

You said:
generated this, and lot more...House XII is in aquarius, on internet i found it means i am alone...is my houses are good.

Thank you for making an attempt to interpret your chart. Knowing that your 11th house has the sign Aquarius on the cusp (edge) of the house doesn't mean anything by itself. You need to look at your entire chart in order to how all the houses work in your chart. Take a look at the "lot more" that your software created, especially looking at the sigsn each planet is in, the aspects made between the planets, and the houses where the planet is focused. Then look up that information: that will tell you a lot more about what is really going on in your chart.

Needing more info,

Tim

Dracula

01-09-2009, 03:46 PM

thanks for such a quick reply, I am attaching the summary of that interpretation, if you say i will also post the chart, but that is 132 kb in size, i need to compress it, but if required i ll post it after compressing it.

Dracula

01-09-2009, 03:51 PM

this is the chart

Mr stellium

01-09-2009, 04:59 PM

House XII is in aquarius, on internet i found it means i am alone, yes i am, and i will remain like it, and i have to learn to

live like it. I mean i dont like it, but is it true...???? Aquarius on the 12th house cusp by itself does not mean you will be alone - I assume you mean not having a partner by "alone". What is important in this regard is
The 7th house: In your case it contains the traditional 12th ruler Saturn (limitation, restrictions) conjunct Mercury (communication) dispositor of 6th house Venus (Love and desire for love, friendships) in fall with the Sun. This does suggest timidity, especially in communications, love and social matters BUT i notice that your tightest natal aspect is Venus sextile (a harmonious aspect) Jupiter - this is a positive aspect for relationships and helps somewhat. I notice from your planet positions that you are probably in your late 20's - You still have much time to develop relationships, if only you become more confident in yourself to make the best of the Jupiter sextile Venus.

what does these degrees means ??? i mean 23.38 is it bad, if it was more or less does this show the intensity of Aquarius.
is my houses are good. The exact degree of the 12th cusp is not important (or any cusp except for the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th) - what is important is whether there are any planets in the house and the condition of the house ruler.

Dracula

01-09-2009, 06:19 PM

timidity in communication,

amazing, yea i have a stammering problem, an acute one. and i feel embarassed so i do not talk much that people will laugh at me.,

need to build my confidence, yea !!! you are right !!! and i am 26 years old

and i was used to think my VII house is great because its in Libra. it means A fortunate marriage, which is delayed on account of disagreement between the two families, especially of the father. Many, but profitable, lawsuits.

what other problems you see, in my chart. ?

wilsontc

01-09-2009, 06:35 PM

Dracula,

You said:
thanks for such a quick reply, I am attaching the summary of that interpretation, if you say i will also post the chart

I am finding your chart very hard to read. I suggest using http://www.astro.com for creating charts: they are easy to read and widely used by astrologers. I am also having a hard time recreating your chart so it looks like the chart you posted. What local time were your born? Your chart makes it look like you were born at 14:00 local time at Karachi, Pakistan, but the chart for that time doesn't match the chart you posted.

Needing more info,

Tim

Dracula

01-09-2009, 06:45 PM

wow thats a great site..

well i was not born in karachi, i was born in city Lahore, but my software does not have city Lahore has an option, so i had to go with city Karachi

but in this site i have found Lahore.

i am posting the chart....

Joseph Ledzion

01-10-2009, 03:12 AM

[deleted non-relevant astrological comment - Joseph if you want to interpret the chart using whole sign houses, go ahead and give your interpretation making sure to mention you are using whole sign houses - Moderator]

wilsontc

01-10-2009, 03:14 PM

Ali,

You said:
i am alone, yes i am, and i will remain like it, and i have to learn to live like it. I mean i dont like it, but is it true...????...i was born in city Lahore, but my software does not have city Lahore has an option, so i had to go with city Karachi

As you can see, your new chart is VERY different looking. That's why it's important to put in the correct birth information. Glad you like astro.com, now you see why it is so popular with astrologers! ;)

Looking at the correct chart, you have Uranus (friends) focused in the 11th house (friends). "Friends" is about being "close but not TOO close" indicating you want to have some "personal space" when around people. You also have Moon (change) focused in the 7th house (relationships), indicating either your relationships change often or your feeling about relationships changes often. However, you have North node (future goals) conjunct (energy is combined with) Descendant (others), so you have a goal of developing your connection with others. This indicates you need to have a "balancing act" between developing relationships with others and allowing yourself some "personal space".

As you see, astrology can show the "real issue" but it doesn't provide easy solutions! ;)

Relating in friendship,

Tim

Dracula

01-10-2009, 05:32 PM

wilsontc

01-10-2009, 07:56 PM

Body House Sign
Sun : [ 9th house] 21Vir13'07"
Moon: [ 7th house] 9Leo42'49"
Merc: [ 9th house] 16Lib15'29"
Venu: [ 8th house] 8Vir00'36"
Mars: [11th house] 26Sco09'15"
Jupi: [10th house] 8Sco24'39"
Satu: [ 9th house] 21Lib05'37"
Uran: [11th house] 1Sag07'40"
Nept: [12th house] 24Sag17'35"
Plut: [10th house] 25Lib28'25"
Node: [ 7th house] 9Can36'31"

wilsontc

01-10-2009, 08:01 PM

Ali,

You asked:
can you make a list of items in each house to me...in addition my houses 1-6 are empty, what is that suppose to mean. ??...what jupiter in scorpio" means ? and do i have a dark soul. ???

Only you can decide whether or not to call your own soul "dark", that is your own decision and has nothing to do with astrology. Houses 1-6 are about your "inner world", so having no planets in houses 1-6 means you don't focus on your "inner world" and instead focus on the "outer world" (houses 7-12). Scorpio (transformation, also occult) modifying Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) can indicate an interest in learning about occult things.

If you want to learn the basics of astrology in six steps, go to the link below this post.

Explaining,

Tim

Dracula

01-11-2009, 12:35 PM

i have seen in the astro site explanation
Moon in the Seventh House 7th hs

You choose personal friends by your emotional reactions to them. Unless people appeal strongly to your emotions and offer emotional support and security, you are not attracted to them.

You attract people whose emotions are strong and close to the surface because you like to be aware of your friends. The reason you attract such people is that they help you understand your own feelings.

It is likely that you will marry or form a close partnership early in your life. You need the security and emotional closeness of such a relationship.
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but it does not tell me about my stammering problem ....
and as you earlier said House 1-6 is for innerself, if i start working on myself, for a year after one year would that effort be visible in my chart ??

wilsontc

01-11-2009, 01:30 PM

Ali,

You said:
i have seen in the astro site explanation
Moon in the Seventh House 7th hs
You choose personal friends by your emotional reactions to them...but it does not tell me about my stammering problem...if i start working on myself, for a year after one year would that effort be visible in my chart ??

This is why I suggest going to the basic astrological site link below. If you had seen the "astro site explanation" there, then you would know that this description of Moon (emotions) in the 7th house (relationships) is incorrect. There is a separate house for friends (11th). The 7th house has nothing to do with "friends" (i.e., people who are "close but not TOO close" to us). The 7th house is about those one one one encounters we have with others, the "relationships" we have with them. Here is a better link to information on Moon in the 7th house:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/moon-in-7th-house.php

No, a "stammering problem" has nothing to do with "relationships" so you won't find it by looking in the 7th house. "Stammering" is something to do with how you think, and, from that, how you talk. The planet of "talking" is Mercury, so we look at Mercury in the chart. In your case Mercury (thinking, also talking) is conjunct (energy is combined with) Saturn (duty, also restriction, structure), so you feel "restricted" about what you are saying. The solution is to take a little more time to "structure" your replies, so you have a very clear, structured answer. Then the "restriction" in your talking will become something else. If this doesn't cure your stammering problem, you can also go to a speech coach and get some "structure" to your speaking there as well.

Your birth chart doesn't change, so simply because you "work on yourself", that is not going to change your chart. But working on yourself will change how you USE those birth chart energies and help turn the challenges into advantages.

Explaining,

Tim

Dracula

01-12-2009, 03:33 AM

i did go through the six steps,
if i could improve my stammering, then what can be my restriction, if you have to suppose what will you suppose. i meant Saturn also means duty, so can it be said that my speech would become a duty for me or i will be a part of such a job where speech is more important than any other thing.

and in my chart Houses 1-6 of inner self are empty, means i do not concenterate upon my innerself, then how can i do it. ? i mean zero planet in any house ... its a kind of an extreme. would i be able to do it. ? have you seen people been able to do it. ???

Ajar

01-12-2009, 02:41 PM

I see you are about 30 degrees shy of your 1st Saturn return. Actually coming conjunct in October of 2011. Be prepared to feel some stress as Saturn begins to teach in its own inimitable way, the lessons it has in store for you. Study Saturn and its chart location, and any aspects to it. But do not despair, if you do not shirk the lessons they will be to your benefit.

Also, be aware that transiting Saturn will be coming into conjunction with your natal Mercury in December 2010, and this will very likely cause you to concentrate on communication.

To get a better idea of the transits affecting your chart, go to http://www.astro.com/ click "Free Horoscopes" click "Extended Chart Selection", click "Circular Charts, click, "Natal charts, and transits*"

I would not be at all surprised that you may be already "feeling" these oncoming Saturn transits, even though they are only semi-sextile, at this time.

wilsontc

01-12-2009, 04:51 PM

Ali,

You said:
i did go through the six steps, if i could improve my stammering, then what can be my restriction, if you have to suppose what will you suppose...my chart Houses 1-6 of inner self are empty, means i do not concenterate upon my innerself

Gald you have done the six steps and hoped it help you understand the very basics of astrology (yes, there is a lot more, but this helps you get a start on things).

Guessing, I would say that you are so concerned about speaking the "correct" way, that you restrict your ability to speak and "second guess" yourself while you are speaking, resulting in stammering. Just take your time, see what you are going to say, and say it. I, too, stammered when I was younger and still do today if I don't clearly see what I am going to say. Another way to get over stammering is to find someplace where they do public speaking and practice public speaking. This will give a focus to your talking and a reason to talk better.

As you say, you don't normally concentrate on your inner self...and this is fine. There are lots of people in the world who have no planets in houses 1-6, so it isn't strange at all. So you are most focused on who you are in the outer world and let your "inner world" take care of itself. However, even though you don't focus on your inner world, the world forces us to focus on things we don't normally pay attention to. So, as the planets in the sky move AROUND our chart, some of them go through EVERY house in our chart. So suddenly we find that we need to pay attention to our "inner world" even though it doesn't seem "natural". Right now you have a few transiting (moving planets in the sky) planets going through the bottom part of your chart, so you are beginning to focus on inward things. Once these planets transit one of your empty houses, however, the focus on that house is over, and your attention once again is on the houses in your birth chart that have planets in them.

Astro-basically,

Tim

Dracula

01-12-2009, 05:41 PM

@ ajar

from this transit image

i want to ask a question, ,,,, some planets are in outer circle and are in green
like sun is in the first house, so acc to my thinking it means that sun is in trnsit and is in house 1 today. ??? am i correct ????

and wilsontc how did you overcome your problem ??? it must be tough thing to do

and my which planets are in motion and how long they will be and when they will rest ???

CertifiedDiva

01-12-2009, 05:58 PM

Ali,

You said:

This is why I suggest going to the basic astrological site link below. If you had seen the "astro site explanation" there, then you would know that this description of Moon (emotions) in the 7th house (relationships) is incorrect. There is a separate house for friends (11th). The 7th house has nothing to do with "friends" (i.e., people who are "close but not TOO close" to us). The 7th house is about those one one one encounters we have with others, the "relationships" we have with them. Here is a better link to information on Moon in the 7th house:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/moon-in-7th-house.php

No, a "stammering problem" has nothing to do with "relationships" so you won't find it by looking in the 7th house. "Stammering" is something to do with how you think, and, from that, how you talk. The planet of "talking" is Mercury, so we look at Mercury in the chart. In your case Mercury (thinking, also talking) is conjunct (energy is combined with) Saturn (duty, also restriction, structure), so you feel "restricted" about what you are saying. The solution is to take a little more time to "structure" your replies, so you have a very clear, structured answer. Then the "restriction" in your talking will become something else. If this doesn't cure your stammering problem, you can also go to a speech coach and get some "structure" to your speaking there as well.

Your birth chart doesn't change, so simply because you "work on yourself", that is not going to change your chart. But working on yourself will change how you USE those birth chart energies and help turn the challenges into advantages.

Explaining,

Tim

See this is what I would like to learn more about and help teach others about; "using their birth chart energies and help turn the challenges into advantages."

This is an awesome analysis of his chart. I'm going to look into "transits" right now!

wilsontc

01-12-2009, 05:59 PM

Ali,

You asked:
wilsontc how did you overcome your problem ??? it must be tough thing to do...which planets are in motion and how long they will be and when they will rest ???

The green planets on the outside of the chart are in motion and the planets on the inside of the chart are at rest and do not move. For me, stammering was about thinking more quickly than I could talk. Once I got used to slowing down my speech and really thinking about what I was going to say, the stammering went away.

Explaining,

Tim

Dracula

01-12-2009, 07:42 PM

when you say in motion what that means, i mean it rotates in the whole circle, or just makes a pitstop in another house and come back

in my chart, the place where green sun outside the circle is present is actually house 1, are you getting what i am implying ?

Ajar

01-12-2009, 08:58 PM

The planets inside the circle are a snapshot of the celestial bodies at the time of your birth.

As you know, the planets did not stop moving just because you were born.:D

The planets outside the circle have remained in movement, and are always exerting force on your natal chart by transit.

Dracula

01-13-2009, 09:15 PM

wilsontc

01-14-2009, 04:29 AM

Ali,

You asked:
what saturn will teach me, in which area...and when was the last time saturn was there .... ????...and if saturn conjucts with mercury, then i will concenterate in my communication

This is your first Saturn return. Saturn is conjunct (energy is combined with) the Midheaven (outer world), so this Saturn return will be about taking responsibility in the outer world. Saturn is related to fear, so maybe it has to do with getting rid of your fear of the outer world and just being brave enough to do things in the outer world and accept their consequences, instead of trying to control everything before it happens. More on the Saturn return here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return

Turning and returning,

Tim

Ajar

01-14-2009, 01:08 PM

i have read this reply many times, what saturn will teach me, in which area
i mean if i disclose my love, there i will be declined... or i mean any guess
and when was the last time saturn was there .... ????

and if saturn conjucts with mercury, then i will concenterate in my communication... please explain !!!

I would like to add a little of my perspective to what Wilson has already posted.

First I notice that you natal birth time is listed as 2:00pm, which leads me to believe that it may be an approximation.

If this time is not accurate then your house cusp placements are also not accurate, and any interpretation will therefore be trickier, depending on the amount of error involved.

I am presently going through my 2nd Saturn return, and can tell that you can certainly expect to be challenged by Saturn. My natal Saturn is in the 4th house, and that is the area that Saturn's forces are most felt for me.

So you should read up on your Saturn in it's Natal House, and expect the challenges/lessons to come in that area.

IMO, what you need to do, is figure out what Saturn is asking of you, which sometimes can be a challenge in itself. Then you need to work on improving yourself in those regards. If you disregard these lessons they will come back to haunt you. Wilson has given you some general information on what to expect, but you are the only one who can really figure out what is needed, because each of us is different.

Be prepared, for some strife in the coming years, but do not be discouraged, because it is a rite of passage, and one we must all endure.

As regards, Saturn aspecting Mercury, just before and during this return. Mercury is the planet of communication and Saturn is the planet of restriction. They are both up near the Midheaven, so I would expect some of your challenges to come in those areas, ie; commication, job.

Also, according to your chart, Saturn and Mercury are in the 9th house, and if your birth time is correct, you should expect some Saturn/Mercury influence/lessons to come in relation to religious beliefs, long distance travel, philosophic ideology, higher learning, etc.

Finally, Saturn simply by its house placement, aspects, and transits poses challenges to all of us thoughout our lifetimes. So you should already have a pretty good idea of your particular situation, and what you need to work on.

gl

Dracula

01-14-2009, 03:02 PM

saturn return is on 28-30 years but im 26 years old its not time for me

wilsontc

01-14-2009, 03:43 PM

Ali,

You said:
saturn return is on 28-30 years but im 26 years old its not time for me

That's true, but your Saturn return will be happening in about two or so years: so you might as well get ready for it and face the challenges. Right now transiting (moving planets in the sky) is conjunct (energy is combined with) your birth Sun (self-expression, also ego), so you are getting some "testing" on how you express yourself. Use this self-awareness of Saturn energy's "testing" to prepare for handling your Saturn return.

Still turned on,

Tim

Dracula

01-14-2009, 04:46 PM

Wilson and ajar thanks got your point very well...
can you tell that the moving planets are where rite now ??
at how long they will remain in one house

for example ( just an example to tell you what kind of an answer i am looking for, and is it feasible)

venus is in 2nd house, and will remain there for 2 months, then it will go in the 3 rd house ,
sun is in 1st house now and will remain there till 3 months, then will go ine 2nd house

i hope you got what i meant

Ajar

01-14-2009, 05:56 PM

can you tell that the moving planets are where rite now ??
at how long they will remain in one house

The planets move at different speeds depending on their distance from the Sun. Of course, the Moon revolves around the Earth, so it is the fastest moving.

We have already directed you to the site that plots the transits. And by manipulating/changing the box labeled "Start date for charts marked with *:", you can see how long each planet remains in each house.

To get a better idea of the transits affecting your chart, go to http://www.astro.com/ (http://www.astro.com/) click "Free Horoscopes" click "Extended Chart Selection", click "Circular Charts, click, "Natal charts, and transits*"

Also see http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12556

Dracula

01-14-2009, 06:07 PM

oke thanks

astrologer50

01-14-2009, 09:22 PM

can you make a list of items in each house to me,
i will do my search on them and will discuss here again, with my opinions also

i mean
for example..
House 9 i have a sun, a mercury, and saturn, i know it but what is the star in it, i mean is it Sagitarius. ??

in addition my houses 1-6 are empty, what is that suppose to mean. ?? am i an alein kind of a person, or what ?

IN MY HOUSE 10 I HAVE A JUPITER, BUT ALSO HAVE A JUPITER IN SCORPIO
i mean " what jupiter in scorpio" means ?

and do i have a dark soul. ??? i read the other thread, and thought so about myself

Well in Equal House you have Mercury, Saturn & Pluto in 10th house and Jupiter in 11th house. You need to read, study more and evaluate for yourself which interpretation fits your character, cos you will 'see yourself' in one of these House systems....

Plus Mars/uranus are in 11th as well as Jupiter. Moon moves to 8th not 7th

There are loads of lessons and resources available on this site and others, heres a couple my favourites...
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
www.cafeastrology.com (http://www.cafeastrology.com)

Dracula

01-15-2009, 10:56 PM

mercury, mars, jupiter and sun in house 1.... what it means

that is in my transit chart]

Ajar

01-16-2009, 02:31 PM

mercury, mars, jupiter and sun in house 1.... what it means

that is in my transit chart]

In your natal chart you will have many aspects between your natal planets, that are with you for life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect

You will also have transiting planets that are aspecting natal chart planets. These are transitional, and the duration and effects will vary depending on many factors.

Again, you should research the meaning of these aspects and see how they affect you personally.

astrop86

01-25-2009, 09:59 AM

After reading through this thread and a few others, I've already seen what Pluto passing through my Scorpio 3rd House has done.

I progressed ahead to when I was 26, 27, and 28 by overlying the natal, progressed, and transit charts. Looking initially, I've got in my natal 3rd house, a Scorpio Pluto-Moon conjunct with a Sag. Saturn on the cusp of 3rd and 4th along the IC. At 26 through 28, I've got Saturn transiting through most of that, with sometime at 26, Saturn passing over North Node (despite natally it belonging in Aries 8th house). At the same time, I'll have a retro Capricorn Pluto at the cusp of my natal 4th and 5th where a conjunct Neptune and Mars share a space. It throws in a total of four retrogrades (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Chiron) with transits occuring with Jupiter - Pluto.

Could someone help calm the fears a bit and explain so that I can start preparing now? I know my emotions are my weakest point, so right now, I gather that it will have something to do with "Get your emotions in check - or else."

Dracula

01-28-2009, 11:01 PM

i want to be able to read my natal chart bymyself to basic extent.

for example in natal chat its written
Sun : [ 9th house] 21Vir13'07"
Moon: [ 7th house] 9Leo42'49"
Merc: [ 9th house] 16Lib15'29"
Venu: [ 8th house] 8Vir00'36"
Mars: [11th house] 26Sco09'15"
Jupi: [10th house] 8Sco24'39"
Satu: [ 9th house] 21Lib05'37"
Uran: [11th house] 1Sag07'40"
Nept: [12th house] 24Sag17'35"
Plut: [10th house] 25Lib28'25"
Node: [ 7th house] 9Can36'31"

Moon is in leo or moon is in 7th house but i see that 7th house is not LEO it is LIbra, 5th hose is Leo
see lis of all zodiacs.

Aries
Taurus
Gemini
Cancer
5 Leo
Virgo
7 Libra
Scorpio
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Piesces