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[Tatjana]

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[starlink]

Tatjana, you are supposed to give your own interpretation first. Did you read the pop-up message in the window when you wanted to post this question?
Please conform to our rules, otherwise I am afraid I will have to delete your question.

Cheers, Starlink

[AquariusT]

What do you think?

I do not think you are old, btw! :eek:

[starlink]

have some knowledge of astrology.
Good, that is all you need. That's why you are in this Greenhorns section. It is for members who have very little knowledge. Here you learn.


What concernes me is the fact that my 5th house is empty.
Its ruller is in eleventh house, and aspects my Venus has are Venus square Jupiter (who is a ruller of my ascendent - important in my case).


Well, you see? you have given some sort of astrological information. Even if you say totally wrong things like: "an empty 5th house, that probably means that I will not have kids, nor fun in my life" then other members who know more about astrology than you do, can correct and help you.


aspects my Venus has are Venus square Jupiter (who is a ruller of my ascendent - important in my case). I am lazy it says so


Ah, another interpretation. Yes, indeed Venus-Jupiter aspects tend to make a person lazy (that's why I am pushing you a bit for interpretation:)).

Now, an empty 5th house does not mean that you cannot have children. I know loads of women with lots of children who have an empty house.
An empty house shows that children are not priority in your life, other things are (like your career maybe with your Moon conjunct the MC).
That is also why you, till now, have not been really thinking of having a child. Nothing to do with laziness, much to do with interest. There was no interest in this up till now.

If you want to know if you could have children, you must look at the sign of the 5th house. Is it a fertile sign (all watersigns are fertile, fire and air signs are not and earth signs can be (Taurus) or cannot be (Capricorn, Virgo) so fertile as the other one's.

Then you look in which sign the ruler of the 5th house is placed. Is it placed in a fertile sign?

Then you look at the aspects of that ruler to the Ascendant especially and other planets (Sun, Moon, Venus in particular) and their rulers.

In your chart Virgo rules the 5th, not very fertile.
Ruler is in Pisces = fertile, BUT in a critical degree (29°). Critical degrees, when touched by transits, can show an urgency related to the house this planet rules.
As you can see, the Solar Return Jupiter is conjunct your natal Moon and the SR Mercury and Moon are both conjunct your natal Mercury. This shows your sudden interest in having a baby.

You actually should look at progressions as well. A solar return only shows tendencies for one year. It shows what could happen but it also shows your mindsetting for this year, in other words, certain things might look as if they could happen this year but can just as well not happen.

The Solar Return Ascendant is falling conjunct your natal Ascendant and that is very important. It does show that it will be an important year for you.

The 11th house is important in Solar Returns when it deals with pregnancy. You have a full 11th SR house and the ruler of your natal 5th is there as well. This does clearly show that you could become pregnant this coming solar year. SR Jupiter on the MC and conjunct natal Moon is also very much pointing to expansion in the family.

So if you can be artificially insiminated, I think you could become pregnant.

But keep in mind, it could all show your state of mind this year. I once had someone who very very much wanted to find a job during her solar year. She had a packed 6th house but nothing happened!! she was just terribly concentrated on getting a job and that is what the chart showed.

You should really look at progressed planets in your birthchart to confirm what you see in the Solar Return. It is a lot of predictive astrology and if you are just starting out in astrology, then this is a bit out of your league. However, you could try to give an interpretation on what you think it all means. Concentrate on the 5th house, progressed planets maybe in that 5th house etc.

[starlink]

I read previus post "When will I conceive my first baby?".

This is more a horary question and to learn to interprete that, you must first learn some rules you can find in the Education Board.

[starlink]

Hi Tatjana, you are doing fine. Only thing to correct: You did a natal chart and the progressions. This is not a Solar Return. You did exactly right by doing a progressed chart in Astrodienst. The only thing is that you actually should have done it for your birthday, but then put in 2008. The progressed Moon moves about 1° per month so it was probably around 2 to 3 degrees earlier, like at 17° Cancer on your birthday.

If you do a Solar Return chart, you have to use the same birthdate, but then put in for 2008. Then you get a chart which is valid from 28 Oct. 2008 till 28 Oct. 2009. You should put in the town where you live now, or, if you like, the town where you were on your birthday. Not your birthtown!! A Solar Return chart is based on the transits of the moment on your birthday and change from year to year, as does the Ascendant. It is only valid for one year.

This chart above is the natal chart with the progressed planets around the ring. Progressed planets are moving much slower, about 1° per year, so the next progressed positions will be very similar, except the Moon's position. Moon is the only one that moves fast. (between 1° and 1°.5' a month).

As you see, your natal Moon is in the 10th house and your progressed Moon indeed in the 7th, the house of relationships. It makes a square to your natal Mercury as you can see (Progr.Moon is now at 19° Cancer, natal Mercury at 17° Libra.) Because Mercury rules your natal 7th house, this could show that you have difficulties finding a partner. Your natal Venus-Uranus square also shows that you would like to be free from personal relationship or have a lot of freedom within a relationship.

Now about getting a baby. Look at the progressed 5th house ruler. It is Venus. 5th house falls in a fertile sign and the ruler is also in a fertile sign, but it is making an ingoing square to Jupiter, ruler of your Ascendant. This could mean that much energy is being put into getting a baby, or that it will be very difficult to get a baby. Venus is moving into the 12th house as well. It is not a very good place for Venus to be in, because traditionally it is a house where Saturn is finding enjoyment (dont mind this. it is traditional astrology and has different rules, but it does show that Venus is entering the territory where Saturn is at home, not a happy place for Venus if you know what I mean.).

the progressed Sun however is very prominent on top of your natal Ascendant this year. He rules your 8th house of life and death and sexual matters, and I think that fertilization belongs in there as well, as it is giving life to a human being. So this also shows your great interest in doing so.

Maybe in about half a year or so you can tell us how things are going.

Cheers, Starlink

[allie_b]

Transiting Jupiter just entered Aquarius and will be conjuncting your natal Saturn (in the 2nd).

Jupiter will expand the contractive energies of Saturn, in your house of personal finances (and values). At the same time it will set off your natal Saturn/Mars opposition.

This could mean that you will be taking on additional financial responsiblities. And it may have to do with 4th house matters. This is because Mars is the ruler of your 4th house, ruling home, family, and personal matters.

At the same time this Jupiter transit will be squaring both your Moon and Sun. Your Moon rules your 8th house. And this transit sets off your natal T square (Saturn/Sun/Mars).

Another thing about transiting Jupiter, by January of 2010, it forms an exact square with your natal Venus (the ruler of your 5th house). And at the same time transiting Neptune will be squaring your natal Venus!

Also, in January 2010, Pluto will be forming a sextile to your natal Moon/Sun conjunction, adding a transformative flavor to your life.

Seems like it would be a good year to take steps in the baby-making direction.

Best wishes!

[allie_b]

I'm not sure which chart would be best (maybe someone here knows).

But perhaps try the Lunar return chart for when the moon returns to the natal chart position, for the one (on or before) June 1st. Look for good aspects to the Moon.

Best wishes,

allie

[astrologer50]

Predicting marriage and/or having children can be done, but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what interaspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc


Go to Astro.com, Astro.com, Extended Chart Selection, Special Charts, Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar. Fertile days will be marked in red. I hope this helps.

Your question is probably better off as a Horary query

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html (http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html)