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MamaMinnee
01-02-2009, 08:45 PM
In Vedic astrology, the Chandra/Moon is everything! Just the nakshatra of the natal Moon, which is approximately 23 degrees less than your Western Moon, can tell you so much accurate information. This description describes me pretty well... Courtesy Barbara Pijan Lama...

Radix Moon in Krittika = "Cutter" (scissors) - sharp & critical. Inner emotional orientation is chronically, permanently energized to sharpen, strengthen, reshape, & improve. "Cuts to the chase." Uses words as cutting instruments.

--Thinks highly of oneself and expects success to come to them.

--The body has hot temperature (Surya-Agni!) and the passions fiery.

--Loves fine food & wines & sensual touching pleasures. Good cook & connoisseur. Deep emotional need to dominate, to cook & to be nourished.

Now you...

Awakened_Pisces
01-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Where can I find out where my Vedic Moon is?

MamaMinnee
01-02-2009, 09:21 PM
Where can I find out where my Vedic Moon is?If you go to astro.com, you just go to options; go to zodiac and pull down the menu to sidereal (same as Vedic)--I use Lahiri--and it should calculate itself. Lemme know...

MamaMinnee
01-02-2009, 09:25 PM
Where can I find out where my Vedic Moon is?....even easier, sans the chart, but with dasa and bhukti information: http://www.vedicastro.com/moon.asp
How delightful!!!

freedomlover
01-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Mine says I'm a Capricorn moon at 14 degrees.

Moon's Nakshatra is "Shravana".

Dasha at birth: Mon/Jup/Sat

Dasha after birth: Mar/Mar 9/6/72

Current Dasha: Jup/Sun/Ven

Can anyone tell me how to interpret this information?

MamaMinnee
01-02-2009, 11:13 PM
Moon's Nakshatra is "Shravana".Sound like you??? Shravana = "Hearing"- attentive to public opinion Excellent listeners who are attentive to public opinion and wish to maintain their social reputation at all costs.
They are allied with conventional standards for excellence and will not tolerate any challenge to what they hear as the rules for proper behavior in their subculture.
There is a certain negativity associated with this nakshatra which is the obvious downside of tale-telling, dishonesty or open disregard for those who might tarnish one's public reputation.
Shravana can be arrogant or uncharitable even (or especially) to close friends or family, should one's reputation come into danger from insinuation of untruthfulness or by unflattering association.
The upside is focused attention to religious teachings and tolerating only the purest spoken word in their homes. Parents disallow vulgarity to flow from the mouths of their children; will ill words be spoken by them in the public assembly.
Shravana will travel extensively to listen at the feet of the guru; but he will also ensure that his pious visits are publicly announced and established in the public mind.
Intellectually, the power of the ear is a huge asset; one listens attentively to the teacher and reads with close attention to detail. Shravana produces scholars of the highest order who pass long the lineage high values of their culture.
Marvelous historians, sociologists, and curators of traditional knowledge. Natural ability at public-relations, opinion-polls, political campaign managers, and holders of public office.
Deep emotional need to know one is held in good repute.

cassanra
01-02-2009, 11:51 PM
I am a Leo with my Moons Nakshatra as "Uttara Phalguni".
Dasha at birth =Sun/Rah/Jupiter and now jupiter/venus/saturn.
I did identify with the moon description of Leo. My natal moon is 22' 58 Virgo so this had me at 29' 40 leo.

MamaMinnee
01-03-2009, 01:09 AM
I am a Leo with my Moons Nakshatra as "Uttara Phalguni".
I did identify with the moon description of Leo. My natal moon is 22' 58 Virgo so this had me at 29' 40 leo.Which part do you identify with? And is it a better description than your Western Virgo Moon?

cassanra
01-03-2009, 02:42 AM
I am not sure what the Uttara Phalguni is but
here us what it had to say: source http://www.vedicastro.com/moon.asp
http://www.vedicastro.com/images/Leo55.gifhttp://www.vedicastro.com/images/space.gif
Leo
According to Vedic Astrology Classic:http://www.vedicastro.com/images/space.gif
You will have a broad face, will move fearlessly and as balanced as a lion, be physically fit and have beautiful and expressive eyes. The Lord of Leo is the Sun, known as the king of the planetary cycle, so you will have kingly qualities, be cultured, frank and open-hearted and liberal and honest. You will be liberal and large hearted. You will possess qualities of leadership and organization. You will be ambitious and will be desirous of achieving your goal. You will be independent but not impertinent. When you are enraged, you may be aggressive but will have the amazing quality of forgiving and forgetting. You will be fearless, bold, principled and unused of being ordered by others. You will complete your work with dedication but occasionally you may be lethargic and lazy. You may suddenly leave all work and sit down. You will try to live happily in all circumstances. You will be religious, charitable, egoistic and self-respective. You will have drawbacks like arrogance, being fond of flattering, self-praise, a tendency to impress others, self-exposure and partiality in behaviour.


I underlined phrases that were most key. The rest was a bit of a stretch and it might be others might say that but I am not quite so 'egoistic':)

cassanra
01-03-2009, 02:48 AM
I found this which is quite interesting as my north node is in my 7th house close to the DSC and not far from the vertex.
http://astrology.indianetzone.com/1/uttara_phalguni.htm
Phalgunis are known as marriage mansions. Natives of both the Nakshatra are best settled in marriage. But this particular Nakshatra makes the person more dependent in relationship, which often creates commitment to the wrong relationship as well. The people born in this Nakshatra also tend to be fixed and stable, and can focus mindedly work on their way to success. They are also very friendly and encouraging towards people.
Their positive approach to people is an added asset to their successful living. The natives are also known to amass prosperity through marriage.

This is another one I found: source http://www.astrojyoti.com/uttaraphalguni.htm

Uttara Phalguni nakshatra (Lionis) Spread from 26:40 Simha to 10: degree Kanya. The ruling planet is Sun, deity is Aryaman, symbol is a bed. Poorva Phalguni and Uttar Phalguni are pair together. Its attributes are much the same as those of Poorva Phalguni. The only difference is that generosity, kindness, patronage and an eagerness to help and succor the distress, to help friends and intimates and those who seek help are more pronounced in this star.
Those born in the Uttara Phalguni are wealthy; know the science of weapons, impotent, respectful and endowed with attractive eyes. They are fixed to the sciences and stingy in expending money. They are givers, kind hearted, happy and endowed with good qualities, famous, kingly, daring and extremely soft personalities. They win over their enemies, loved by women, experts in arts, truthful, and learned. They are obedient, religious, loved by people, stable and bright. They are fearful but good warmer

I love this stuff....:) I sound great! I am not wealthy. It does fit me better than the Virgo moon to some extent and Gemini sun. I have three planets natally in leo so in a way it is interesting that this brings it to the fore.

RockFish
01-03-2009, 03:04 AM
I have western Virgo moon at 22 degrees as well, my Vedic moon falls in Leo too, Uttara Phalgun.

Here's what I identify with:

You will have a broad face, will move fearlessly and as balanced as a lion, be physically fit and have beautiful and expressive eyes. The Lord of Leo is the Sun, known as the king of the planetary cycle, so you will have kingly qualities, be cultured, frank and open-hearted and liberal and honest. You will be liberal and large hearted. You will possess qualities of leadership and organization. You will be ambitious and will be desirous of achieving your goal. You will be independent but not impertinent. When you are enraged, you may be aggressive but will have the amazing quality of forgiving and forgetting. You will be fearless, bold, principled and unused of being ordered by others. You will complete your work with dedication but occasionally you may be lethargic and lazy. You may suddenly leave all work and sit down. You will try to live happily in all circumstances. You will be religious, charitable, egoistic and self-respective. You will have drawbacks like arrogance, being fond of flattering, self-praise, a tendency to impress others, self-exposure and partiality in behaviour.

I thought it was very accurate. The part of being unused of being ordered by others is perfect.

I have lots of Capricorn and Virgo in my chart, so astro reports in general stress the qualities of discretion, hard-work and seriousness of the signs. Few of them describe my ego in all its sizeable glory. :D

Only thing missing in the report above: "You plan to rewrite history and become a myth of the 21st century". ;)

MamaMinnee
01-03-2009, 03:44 AM
Cassandra and RockFish:
Radix Moon in Uttaraphalguni = "Horses" - impulsive & intuitive
(Surya-Surya, Surya-Budha)
Deeply friendly person who seeks to form bonds of companionship starting from the family & extending outward in the world.
Two traits are famous for Uttaraphalguni:

the need to be engaged in conversation (Budha)
the need for rational control (Surya).
Excellent position for executive leadership in demanding markets, where partnering & decision-making are both running at a raging gallop.
Can be overwhelming in some marriages, if the native focuses the hot rays of their enquiring light too intensely upon the partner.
This native needs to know what the partner is doing, and why. When emotional communication goes into short-loop repetition, behavior of the spouse is constricted, and co-dependent patterns may emerge.
Normally a true humanitarian. Fixed & sincere beliefs, including a grounded belief in the essential bonds of friends & family.
Values relationships with those of like mind. In the quarters of Virgo = a high-speed "bullet-train" thinker, whose thoughts run in a rather narrow but highly advanced channel. The native may prefer only the company of those who think in rather precisely the same way as oneself, and ideally with facility and speed.
Stable and reliable person. However, the Uttaraphalguni native needs reminding to keep that control thing, um, under control.

Deep emotional need to gather friends for a cause.

MamaMinnee
01-03-2009, 03:55 AM
Moon's Nakshatra:Mrigashira. Dasha is a duration of time where a specific planet rules that period. Thoughts on this?
Radix Moon in Mrigashira = "sensing the vibe"
(Shukra-Kuja-Chandra; Budha-Kuja-Chandra)
Intuitive & self-protective. Like a forest deer, the native is constantly traveling in company, searching & listening.
Usually gentle-natured; easy to work with, & instinctively caring. Natural host or hostess, excellent for professional entertaining.
However they can be skittish & bolt in fear, due to emotional hair-trigger based on their sense of smell. (Kuja-Shukra; Kuja-Budha).
Curiosity leads to distant traveling and intriguing relationships with interesting people. Likes to get to know people.
Often sniffing out others, likes to know where others have been, thus good at journalism, research etc.
Likes to socialize in the good company of friendly fellow-travelers.

Deep emotional need to travel & entertain.

Awakened_Pisces
01-03-2009, 01:12 PM
Moon's Nakshatra:Revati. Do you know where I can find out about this?

cassanra
01-03-2009, 01:58 PM
I just did a google search but Mamaminniee appears to have another source that is quite different in the approach.
There were some connecting phrases in what you posted Mamaminnee.
When emotional communication goes into short-loop repetition, behavior of the spouse is constricted, and co-dependent patterns may emerge
Deeply friendly person who seeks to form bonds of companionship starting from the family & extending outward in the world.
Two traits are famous for Uttaraphalguni:
the need to be engaged in conversation (Budha)
the need for rational control (Surya).

I suspect that is fairly similar to me. And I work in a field that is humanitarian. AS far as the Dasha Saturn is crossing my moon and jupiter is trining it. I am not sure about venus accept that I do seem to be having a lot of financial difficulty (2nd house issues) that I can not quite account for but this form of astrology is new to me.

MamaMinnee
01-03-2009, 04:07 PM
Moon's Nakshatra:Revati. Do you know where I can find out about this?I just love, love Barbara Pijan Lima and that is who I have been using. Revati is an excellent nakshatra--my daughter has it! http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Nakshatras/Chandra_in_27_Nakshatra/27_Revati_Chandra.htm.
Feedback....

MamaMinnee
01-03-2009, 04:13 PM
I love this stuff....:) I sound great! I am not wealthy... In India, the origins of Vedic/Jyotish Astrology, health is considered wealth (as it should be) because longevity is compromised there.

Awakened_Pisces
01-03-2009, 08:36 PM
There are two translations for Moon in Revati. And both describe a major part of my life I'll paste what is similar to myself:

Often emotionally damaged in childhood through failure of moral guidance from their own trusted leaders - particularly the father (guru).
The experience of betrayal through lack of moral character in the childhood guide (father or father-figure; may also be a failed spiritual teacher) will remind the Revati native of the lifelong human need for connection and redemption through forgiveness (http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Topics/Practice_Issues/Forgiveness.htm).



Fears:
being misled or betrayed

The_Sundance_Kid
01-03-2009, 09:18 PM
I'm not sure how helpful a nakshatra will be if taken out of the Vedic context. They have a whole moon chart done, where the moon is taken as the Asc, and planets interpreted in that way, using the whole sign house system.

Also, what does this:

which is approximately 23 degrees less than your Western Moon,

mean? Do you mean the precession thing? I thought I'd just check in case I was missing something.

PS I'm Kritikka too- it kind of fits me, but I find these descriptions are often slightly random, with some statements being quite vague and applicable to anyone, and some being very specific and fatalistic, and often not true. I think this is because a nakshatra is difficult to isolate.

MamaMinnee
01-04-2009, 11:23 AM
I'm not sure how helpful a nakshatra will be if taken out of the Vedic context. They have a whole moon chart done, where the moon is taken as the Asc, and planets interpreted in that way, using the whole sign house system. Like Western Astrology, Vedic also uses the birth chart/rasi, in addition to the harmonics, as well as the Chandra Lagna/Ascendant interpretation you mentioned, utilizing the Moon as the Ascendant. All will generate a wealth of information.
Also, what does this: which is approximately 23 degrees less than your Western Moon, mean? Do you mean the precession thing? I thought I'd just check in case I was missing something. If you are 24 degrees Taurus in Western, you end up being approximately 1 Taurus in Vedic (the eyeballing method).

The_Sundance_Kid
01-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Gotcha ;)

I should have said, in the vedic reports I've received in the past, the nakshatra never featured much in interpretations and was only used to determine rulership and subrulership of the moon for weighting purposes. So there was less about characteristics and more about overall fire and sub-lord of mercury bi-ruled with saturn detrimented by rahu blah blah.

All the reports, from various sources, did talk alot about my Taurus moon (in Western zodiac it in Gemini.) And their interpretation of that was pretty neat. They seemed to focus on sign rather than nakshatra, but maybe they were playing up to the western readership?

And their interpretation of the Taurus moon was very contrary to the Krittika moon, which I found difficult to understand. Apart from the sensuousness :)

MamaMinnee
01-05-2009, 01:09 AM
Confusedpisces... What about this for Revati?
--means 'wealthy' and is also associated with fertility, nourishment, abundance and prosperity on all levels.
--auspicious for spiritual growth and produces great intuitive gifts, as well as music and dance.
--loves animals and has a soft nature.
--absorbs the feelings of others.
--benefits by living by water.
...and tends to get most of the above from the mother...
Marlon Brando, Whitney Houston, James Taylor and Rodney King all have their Moon in Revati.
Compliments of Dennis Harness, Ph.D.

Awakened_Pisces
01-05-2009, 01:36 AM
-Means wealthy and is also associated with Fertility, nourishment, abundance and Prosperity on all levels:

My family is relatively wealthy but not rich. However, I've always had the strong aspiration for money and for a relatively big life. Must be that Jupiter in Virgo?

--Auspicious for Spiritual Growth and produces great intuitive gifts, as well as music and dance.

3.5 GPA over the last 3 years, I love music to death and have been over the last 5 months a practicing astrologer.

-Loves animals and has a soft nature:

I have owned now 5 cats in a span of 17 years :)

--Absorbs the feelings of others

Totally, then I was betrayed by them as the interpretation indicated.

-And tends to get the most of the above from the mother

If it means inheritance then no. I didn't inherit much if any of these skills from my mother. I inherited my kindness from my grandmother perhaps. But me and my mom are on different levels of communication and spirituality.

MamaMinnee
01-05-2009, 06:27 PM
...They seemed to focus on sign rather than nakshatra, but maybe they were playing up to the western readership?That was probably the case. The nakshatras are like Sabian symbols, a la Vedic style to me.And their interpretation of the Taurus moon was very contrary to the Krittika moon, which I found difficult to understand. Apart from the sensuousness :) You don't cook??!!! Hmmmm...
More on Krittika--see if this is more you, compliments of Dennis Harness, Ph. D.:
--fighter for a social cause, spiritual warrior.
--cuts away negativity to get to the deepest truth.
--beauty, elegance, fashionable dress.
--difficulties with diet and eating habits.
--childlike nature.
--primary motivation is kama/desire.
People with Krittika Moon: Bill Clinton, Frida Kahlo, Bob Dylan, Ronald Reagan.

freedomlover
01-17-2009, 10:14 PM
Sound like you???
Yes! Very much of it is right on the money!

Shravana = "Hearing"- attentive to public opinion Excellent listeners who are attentive to public opinion and wish to maintain their social reputation at all costs.
Yes, unfortunately. I've gone through a huge run of having my name smeared. I tried to keep on everyone's good graces - but finally learned: some people are not gonna like you no matter what you do. It doesn't really bother me much anymore.

They are allied with conventional standards for excellence and will not tolerate any challenge to what they hear as the rules for proper behavior in their subculture.
At some points in my life, I was obsessed with "rules" and "the proper way" - some due to my perfectionist mother, and some due to religious teachings in the church.

There is a certain negativity associated with this nakshatra which is the obvious downside of tale-telling, dishonesty or open disregard for those who might tarnish one's public reputation.
Ditto what I wrote paragraph before last.


Shravana can be arrogant or uncharitable even (or especially) to close friends or family, should one's reputation come into danger from insinuation of untruthfulness or by unflattering association.
Sort-of. Some of the people I've had to "write off" have been family members and many ex-close friends who were like family.


The upside is focused attention to religious teachings and tolerating only the purest spoken word in their homes. Parents disallow vulgarity to flow from the mouths of their children; will ill words be spoken by them in the public assembly.
Yes, I've spent the last 10 years of my life devoted to spiritual teachings from many religions. I've been especially interested in the "power of the spoken word"/decrees, etc.

Not so much the vulgarity - both my kids took after their fathers.


Shravana will travel extensively to listen at the feet of the guru; but he will also ensure that his pious visits are publicly announced and established in the public mind.
At one time, I did do much travel to listen to "gurus". I'm not sure I get the "pious visits" being announced part.

Intellectually, the power of the ear is a huge asset; one listens attentively to the teacher and reads with close attention to detail. Shravana produces scholars of the highest order who pass long the lineage high values of their culture.
This area has been both a gift and a curse to me. I have been a life-long scholar, self-taught in many areas -- although I do read voraciously and learn from others that way. I have had problems with my ears all my life. I'm partially deaf in my right ear. I've had recurrent life-threatening infections that began in my ears and spread. I've also had "spiritual deafness", where it was very hard for me to focus and listen to others. This was due to ear chakra blockages from harsh criticism as a child, as well as being forced to listen to others that thought they knew the way for me, but didn't. Also, being forced to learn things that I knew I did not need to learn.
Marvelous historians, sociologists, and curators of traditional knowledge. Natural ability at public-relations, opinion-polls, political campaign managers, and holders of public office.
Yeah, I could have those talents. I had a psychic tell me once that I would one day be interacting with people in politics. One of my first "jobs" as a young teen was doing the mailings for local politicians campaigns.
Deep emotional need to know one is held in good repute.Yeah, like I said, rebuilding my public reputation is a biggie with me. I'm finally getting over the pain from the false accusations that were spread about me.

Thanks, MamaMinnee!

Nexus7
01-18-2009, 08:52 AM
My Moon is in the Veic Sravana too, someone told me that it is very responsive to music, I certainly enjoy music. A lot of artwork I have done ar a lot like music set to paper.

I don't lnow aobut being sensitive to protocols and social mores, I have no time for petty mores whatsoever. At one time I tended to take on board what many books wrote as being virtually absolute spiritual authorities, but Ihave learnt to be a good deal more discriminating and critical since. I wouldn't have put that down to any Sravana thing though but rather more to do with a Mercury/Saturn aspect.

Tittle-tattling, gossip, I know the harm it can do. I do think there is a big difference between 'fair comment' gossip and malicious gossip, and with the later, I think it can go way beyong sticks and stones. From the 'fair comment' point of view: if nobody blew the whistle and said that this person isn't honest in business, for example, then a whole lot more people might get conned.

I don't really know much about the way Vedic is applied though.

The_Sundance_Kid
01-18-2009, 04:59 PM
That was probably the case. The nakshatras are like Sabian symbols, a la Vedic style to me. You don't cook??!!! Hmmmm...
More on Krittika--see if this is more you, compliments of Dennis Harness, Ph. D.:
--fighter for a social cause, spiritual warrior.
--cuts away negativity to get to the deepest truth.
--beauty, elegance, fashionable dress.
--difficulties with diet and eating habits.
--childlike nature.
--primary motivation is kama/desire.
People with Krittika Moon: Bill Clinton, Frida Kahlo, Bob Dylan, Ronald Reagan.

I think about fighting for social causes more than I actually fight for them. Beauty and elegance in abundance of course! :p As for fashionable dress...erm...no. The less said the better :eek: . I don't think my primary motivation is desire. I think that as Jupiter is my final dispositor and Saturn in is Sagittarius, my primary motivation is doing what I think is right. I take that waaay too seriously. In fact it seems my life's task is to control my desire.

Difficulties with diet and eating habits, childlike nature, cutting away negativity with truth... BINGO! I do try and cut away at negativity, I always thought that was Scorpio, interesting that the Nakshatra says the same. And I am vegetarian, eat erratically and unconventionally, don't cook much but when I do I like to do something traditional with a quirky twist, and I enjoy it.

Random bag of traits there.. has made me more interested.

You know the nakshatras are named after the constellations, but the indian months are also named after them in reverse, as the constellation will be in the midnight sky when in opposition to the sun. So the contellation of Kritikka (I think the Pleiades) might be up there near Taurus and Gemini, but the Indian month of Kritik is in November, and is generally seen to be unlucky and dark. I don't think Krittika is supposed to be particularly good, but Taurus and Venus definitely are!

MamaMinnee
01-18-2009, 07:18 PM
...So the contellation of Kritikka (I think the Pleiades) might be up there near Taurus and Gemini, but the Indian month of Kritik is in November, and is generally seen to be unlucky and dark. I don't think Krittika is supposed to be particularly good, but Taurus and Venus definitely are! Planets are strong and favourable when placed in their exaltation signs or in Moola Trikona signs so it depends on where in Krittika your Moon is placed. Not to be ungrateful, but my Moon is close to exaltation and I have to say: over-rated... Exaltation, Debilitation and Moola Trikona of Planets.


Planet Exaltation Debilitation Mooltrikona The Sun Aries 10º Libra 10º Leo 0º-20º The Moon Taurus 3º Scorpio 3º Taurus 4º-20º Mars Capricorn 28º Cancer 28º Aries 0º-12º Mercury Virgo 15º Pisces 15º Virgo 16º-20º Jupiter Cancer 5º Capricorn 5º Sagittarius 0º-10º Venus Pisces 27º Virgo 27º Libra 0º-15º Saturn Libra 20º Aries 20º Aquarius 0º-20º

Astrologer4U
02-11-2009, 03:58 AM
I find Vedic Astrology to be very interesting and accurate as well. My Vedic/Sidereal Moon is, Leo.

barthelemy
02-20-2009, 09:36 PM
i've had an interest in Vedic astrology for just over a year: these are my details


Vedic Moon: Libra 8�10'55"

Moon's Nakshatra: Swati

Dasha at birth: Rah/Rah/Ven

Dasha after birth: Jup/Jup (m/d/y) 8/12/2003

Current Dasha: Jup/Mer/Sun

Sun Sign (Western) : Virgo



From what I had read it’s scarily accurate and some of the information literally took my breath away – in the most negative way…… due to Effect of Moon, Mercury, Mars and Saturn in my birth chart. All in all the suggestion (from what I have read so far……it appears as if one with my lacks any sort of recognition for my hard efforts and largely ignored by people and live a life of solitude!!! This really disturbed me.

barthelemy
02-20-2009, 10:05 PM
06Thula40 - 19Thula59 Julia Roberts (http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Marriage/marr14_julia_roberts.htm) (actor)
Tom Cruise (http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Marriage/marr26_katie_holmes_tom_cruise.htm) (actor)
Alfred Hitchcock (film director)

U.S. Pres.#33 Harry Truman (http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Politics/Pol25_Harry_Truman.htm)
Eric Clapton (musician) Johnny Cash (musician)
Radix Moon in Swati = "Breath" - balanced & free

(Rahu - Shukra - Vayu)
Dreams of flying or floating on the wind. Wants to travel the world.
Artistic & intuitive. Socially gracious.
Due to Rahu instinct toward free expression, are quite capable of incorporating illicit & vulgar persons in their circle of relationships.
Talented in fine, literary & performance arts. Strong financial sense; attractive, interesting, good communicators.
Can seem superficial due to nice behaviors, but are actually quite deep & persistent in pursuing satisfaction of their deepest needs..
Likes to learn, dig deeper for insights, know secrets esp. re: life, love & beauty. Willing to break taboos to achieve freedom, esp. will break through one's own fears.
Wants transformative sexual partnership.
Succumbs to flattery of their beauty or talent.
Famed for their fickle heart & changing mind that may tempt into risky behaviors. Emotional restlessness seeking more intense love experience.
Deep emotional need for free movement.


found this ^. hmm, unsure. :confused: