radical chart or not?

[tikana]

Hey people

question

chart shoudl tell where is the true focus in a horary question is, right?

well... i am stuck a bit
the question is about my friend's love interest.
a young woman asked
"will so and so contact me without me contacting him first?" sounds oddly phrased.
so anyho...
dec 9 2008
5:57 pm
encino, ca
6 cancer rising
Ruler of hour Jupiter
jupiter/moon - no relation
moon is in 11th house
sun is in 6th
merc is in 6th as well
here is what is bothering me
Jupiter hot and moist
cancer is cold and moist
seems like the chart is not radical
I went to look everything in her chart to see if asce falls anywhere near her planets. answer is NO!
would you still go ahead and read this chart or throw it away?

http://www.geocities.com/tikana4/soso.gif

danke
T:)

[archergirl]

I would say that the simple fact that the Moon, her, is the faster moving planet and applying to Saturn, him, means that she will contact him first, probably because she can't wait.

AG:)

[RayAustin]

Hey Tikana, I find from reading on the web and etc that when the ascendant has no relation to the planetary hour.. no diginities in it, then it is somewhat a sign of a no in the question or the answer is less to the querent's expectations.

And by that alone the chart would not be considered radical.
The moon trining saturn, means the querent would call them since they are the faster and stronger planet.

[archergirl]

I went to look everything in her chart to see if asce falls anywhere near her planets. answer is NO!
would you still go ahead and read this chart or throw it away?

You're making it too complicated. :D Just look at what the planets are doing. If they don't make it clear (and in this chart they do) THEN start examining other things.

But this chart is radical simply because the strength of the Moon shows where the querent is at; just because it's a 'no' answer, doesn't mean there isn't an answer and the chart isn't fit to be judged. It just means that 'no, the quesited won't ring before the querent does; the querent is likely to ring first'. That's still a valid answer.

AG:)

[tikana]

Yeah AG

I had a feeling that would be the outcome of this contact

i wonder how will the yo-yo react... will he go to her with a reply...

i told her wait.. lol i know she wont... people these days!

heheh Triplicity.. he likes her but as a friend.. how sad!
she is very strong exalt triplicity and face

danke to both of you

T

[tikana]

Update

the querent did email the yo-yo

she got a reply on 7th of january, which is today!

moon/saturn - 9 something - nothing happend
we need something - 1 - 4 or 28
i do not see anything 28
the closest that i see is desc/moon - 5!

other than that.. nothing!

Cheers
T

[RayAustin]

I see, so she did contact him first? :D

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Hey Tikana, I find from reading on the web and etc that when the ascendant has no relation to the planetary hour.. no diginities in it, then it is somewhat a sign of a no in the question or the answer is less to the querent's expectations.

That's how I've come to base my radical charts. If the hour lord and ascendant agree, then I say it's radical regardless of whatever else is going on in the chart, so it's probably all indicative of something anyway. I tell you, I'm getting tired of Void of Course Moon's making everything not happen.

Anyway, this rule is definitely a good one to follow.

However...


And by that alone the chart would not be considered radical.

Actually, by the Hour Lord/Ascendant rule, it would be radical. Jupiter is the lord of the hour, and Cancer is on the Ascendant. What is Cancer to Jupiter?

[RayAustin]

Actually, by the Hour Lord/Ascendant rule, it would be radical. Jupiter is the lord of the hour, and Cancer is on the Ascendant. What is Cancer to Jupiter?

You're right, I wonder why my astrology program made a boo boo like that. :) It insists there's no relationship.

Here's something I've thought about -- I also consider the chart radical (as far as worth looking at) if the lord of hour happens to be a significator as well, but maintaining the ancient premise, the answer may not be up to the querent's expectations.

[fensi88]

we need something - 1 - 4 or 28
i do not see anything 28

Me too. Thanks for this chart, I always read that faster planet means that it will start contact, but according to this chart maybe we have to look at what signs are rulers- here his ruler is in mutable sign, her in fixed sign and maybe that is answer why he called first.

[RayAustin]

Me too. Thanks for this chart, I always read that faster planet means that it will start contact, but according to this chart maybe we have to look at what signs are rulers- here his ruler is in mutable sign, her in fixed sign and maybe that is answer why he called first.

I thought Tikana said she did contact him first

[archergirl]

the querent did email the yo-yo

she got a reply on 7th of january, which is today!


The querent was the faster moving planet. She emailed him first. Tikana said that the querent wouldn't be able to wait, and so it proved.

Tik, you wouldn't be able to find timing in this chart, because the querent was asking about timing for him to contact her on the condition that she did not contact him first. But she DID contact him first; the chart showed this.

AG:)

[RayAustin]

her in fixed sign

That is interesting which I did not notice. I am going to say that as her ascendant ruler is cardinal, there is a confliction of quality and a stubborn-ness/anxiousness going on. Being in a fixed sign, she was probably waiting, but cardinal wins -- she's a fast planet, and she couldn't wait anymore. :) I love astrology.

[fensi88]

[quote]That is interesting which I did not notice. I am going to say that as her ascendant ruler is cardinal, there is a confliction of quality and a stubborn-ness/anxiousness going on. Being in a fixed sign, she was probably waiting, but cardinal wins -- she's a fast planet, and she couldn't wait anymore. :) I love astrology.[quote]

Me too.

[tikana]

hi all!

She emailed him first ... it was not a matter of impatience but a chase who will send an email first....

anyho

i was scanning through my emails before I left for the new years .. i found an interesting chart...

will i get a reply from so and so before 7th
dec 27 2008
1:17 am
los angeles, ca
venus/mars - no aspect
moon/merc

bb soon with the chart

Tik

[tikana]

Okeeeey

update

the querent received a reply from the other party on 7th! early in the morning!

hehehe

welll.... this is interesting!

T