Is he really gay?

[Lynns]

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could interpret this chart for me..
Question: Is he really gay and could he change?

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I thought it's a rather humorous question to ask, but i did anyway..
Any insights would be appreciated.

Thank you!

Lynn

[Summery Joy]

In another thread in this forum called About Sex (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1356), Draco said

If the question is about sexuality, then Mars is the sex-drive, passion, desires, lust. Venus is tenderness, affection, romance, comfort. Mars is what the querent wants to give sexually, Venus is what they want to take sexually.

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Look to both Venus and Mars for the most rounded perspective. And yes, use the 1st and the 5th rulers to explore the querents relationship with sex.

This quote pretty much sums up the approach I'm going to use To answer your question.

Alright, here we go.

The ASC is in Leo so you are signified by the Sun in Aries in the 8th house. Leo rising is descriptive of a question revolving around sex since Leo generally co-rules it as a function and also happens to be one of the bestial signs.

I know whom you are asking about, so I'll use the 11th since the guy is technically your friend. The 11th house is in Gemini, so the guy is signified by Mercury at Pisces 14:!2 in the radical 8th house (his turned 10th). It is interesting that the cusp of the house that rules him and also his significator are in common (dual-natured) signs. Let's start with the significator.

Mercury is a planet whose gender astrologers where never able to agree on. It is generally accepted that Mercury is neutral, neither feminine nor masculine. Mercury is essentially debilitated by being in the sign of its fall. Pisces gives a deceptive colour here.

Mercury is received by Jupiter (turned 7th, 10th ruler) by sign. What matters more I believe is that it's received by both Venus and Mars, by exaltation and trplicity, both are pretty strong receptions. Other than that, Mercury is in its own term and face having some essential dignity.

Mercury is in the turned 10th house giving it strong accidental debility from his point of view. It also shows his interest in his public image.

Let's look at the turned 1st house and ASC. The turned ASC is in Gemini, as I have already said, and the first house contains Mars, the natural significator of the sexual drive. I think we can safely say that sexuality is a big part of his identity that he presents to the world.

Mars is in the dual, intellectual sign of Gemini, i.e. Gemini colours what he wants to give sexually. Gemini is also a humane sign, a sign that care about social affairs and courtesy. Let's study what he wants to take sexually; that is, the Venus placement. Venus is in Aquarius, another humane air sign colouring this significator with intellectuality and socially attendence. Aquarius is known to be a sign of shocks and kinkyness. Need I say more? It happens to be in the 9th house, expansion and different knowledge. Venus is not only a natural significator in this chart. It also rules his turned 5th house (sex and sexuality) which is the radical 3rd house in Libra, the sign of indecisiveness and balance.

OK. I think it is safe for me to say that my final interpretation is:

You're friend is bi-sexual. He likes it because it fulfills his needs for change, exploration of new things, feeling different and.. well.. kinky sexuality. He prefers to declare himself gay though because for some reason he thinks it'll give him some sort of social/public edge. Maybe he's ashamed of admitting that he's not totally decided on one lane of the street or he simply thinks that gay sounds cooler than bi-sexual. There's always a chance that he doesn't want to say that he's bi-sexual because he's avoiding a relationship with a girl or he's too proud to admit that he likes her, so the gay thing is a good cover. I cannot tell for sure why he prefers to be known as a gay guy, but this horary tells me that he's bi-sexual.

[Lynns]

Hi sorehearted,

The quote makes alot of sense.

The ASC is in Leo so you are signified by the Sun in Aries in the 8th house. Leo rising is descriptive of a question revolving around sex since Leo generally co-rules it as a function and also happens to be one of the bestial signs.
Interesting. i'm curious. Why am I in the 8th house? Is it because of the nature of the question?

Mercury at Pisces 14:!2 in the radical 8th house (his turned 10th). It is interesting that the cusp of the house that rules him and also his significator are in common (dual-natured) signs.
His ascendant is also in pisces.

I know whom you are asking about, so I'll use the 11th since the guy is technically your friend.
I was wondering why you didn't use the 7th house? Would it give different perception if the 7th was used? I see the ruler of the 7th is uranus, which usually represents homosexuality right? If uranus is in the 7th house, what does that mean? Sorry for asking so many questions, i hardly know how to interpret.
But you're right to use the 11th. he has always been my friend.

What matters more I believe is that it's received by both Venus and Mars, by exaltation and trplicity, both are pretty strong receptions.
Ahh, what does that mean? Does it describe his romantic nature, or the nature of my question?

It also shows his interest in his public image.
You're right on that.

Let's look at the turned 1st house and ASC. The turned ASC is in Gemini, as I have already said, and the first house contains Mars, the natural significator of the sexual drive. I think we can safely say that sexuality is a big part of his identity that he presents to the world.
Wow, the synchroniicity is baffling. everything points to gemini and pisces, the dual signs. Maybe I should wait for mars to go out of the gemini sign before I ask a question? lol.

Aquarius is known to be a sign of shocks and kinkyness.
Interesting, but from what i know, he is rather 'celibate' kind! But there may be skeletons in the closet that I'm not aware of!

Maybe he's ashamed of admitting that he's not totally decided on one lane of the street or he simply thinks that gay sounds cooler than bi-sexual. There's always a chance that he doesn't want to say that he's bi-sexual because he's avoiding a relationship with a girl or he's too proud to admit that he likes her, so the gay thing is a good cover. I cannot tell for sure why he prefers to be known as a gay guy, but this horary tells me that he's bi-sexual.
I think it's the ego too. Too bad things can't blossom because of the ego.
Thanks for your interpretation! :P

Lynn

[23]

I think the Mars square Uranus interesting. Adding kinkiness and something different to his sexuality. I suppose because it is also a link between the 11th and 7th house, it might mean he has more than one person at one time (11th being associated with Aqu and communities and collectives, 7th- relationships and libra).

I remember reading somewhere that a square or opposition between mars and uranus is a good indicator of male homosexuality and venus square/opposing uranus for females.

I don't know about just the Uranus in the 7th house (and Aqu) as you say, Lynns. That just means that he is more of a friend in (intimate relations) and is quite disruptive with his relations. And as said, gemini mars might add some neutrality in sexuality.

[Lynns]

Thank you, 23, that makes alot of sense!

So complicated, ha!

Lynn