Is there a plan to deliberately reduce world population

[Neptune Rising]

Hi:)

After watching information about 2012, I wanted to know if this was true, so the horary question was... Are the powers in authority planning to reduce the world's population by contaminating and manipulating their food genetically etc?

Well I'm still learning about this type of horary but here is my attempt.


The force in authority = 10th/Jupiter
People of the nations = Moon
Enemies of the nation = Saturn. I wasn't sure how to class this one, because if it is true, then the people in po wer are the emenies of the nation..? debatable.
Religion/travel issues/9th, and resources of enemy = Saturn

Nation's wealth = 2nd/Sun
Farming/agricultural things = 4th/Mercury
Epidemics/servants/working classes = 6th Jupiter
Secret things/institutions = Mercury

Mercury and Saturn are in strong mutual reception. In the dark side of its house.

Moon is strong, although in the 12th house, it is about to conjunct ascendant, so currently cadent. Does this show the people of the nation are in the house of the secret do da's?

Moon's final aspect is square to the POF. This POF is in Saturn's exhaltation? Fortune favours the enemies of the nation, the enemie's resources and travel/religions interests. The people of the nation will come into conflict with the enemies of the nation, rescoures, religion/travel things... this happens in 9 degrees.

Before this conflict, Moon does an inconjunct to Neptune, in the 8th house, the enemie's resources, on the cusp with the religion/travel house. Some sort of illusion, delusion, wool over the eyes to do with these issues. 1 degree. Im not sure of the timing in this sort of chart. Could this be 1 year, 2009...? At the same time Moon does another inconjunct with Lilith, on cusp of 6th, working classes. I never know how to interpret Lilith in mundane, does this emphasise the effect of Neptune? Lilith is a dark point, is something hidden here? It leads me to feel there is some deception there, with the nation's working classes and enemies' resources. But who is the real enemy?

Saturn is in Mercury's exhaltation, Jupiter's/10th terms and Jupiter's detriment, Venus' fall. (Venus rules intercepted sign in the 11th = friends of the nation, nation's hopes). Ok, so Saturn/people's enemy exhalts Mercury/12th and 4th ruler. The enemy exhalts the secret societies and the farming/land of the nation. And Saturn sits right on the nadir, not sure what this means, the enemy is closely linked to the nation's land? Also its below the horizon, kind of out of sight. Saturn is in Moon's triplicity though.

Moon in Cancer worships the authority of the nation/Jupiter, and its in Saturn's detriment. They don't like the enemy.

Jupiter is being welcomed into Saturn's sign, in Capricorn, and it will soon enter the 7th house. It will spend alot of time in Saturn's sign, also going next into Aquarius. Jupiter is also in Moon's triplicity and detriment. In its own terms and in fall. So authority is in bad shape, fall and cadent. Mutual reception with Saturn = Jupiter in Saturn sign, and Saturn in Jupiter's terms and detriment. This looks like Saturn has the upper hand. Juptier also below the horizon.

Jupiter, Saturn and Moon and POF are in the dark side of their houses.

Juptier/Saturn are about to trine, argh! Working classes/police, enemy, authority.

Uranus is also right on the MC. Sudden shock/disruption? Opposing Saturn. Not sure what to make of that aspect. Looks very significant. The enemy going to do something sudden involving the authority? Uranus is strong in this chart at the MC. In the light side of the house. Some disruption and upheavel involving the enemy and authority?

Moons doesnt do alot of aspects after those inconjuncts. After inconjunct Neptune/Lilith it squares Sun, inconjunct Pluto and squares POF in that order. Sun rules 2nd and 3rd/communications. Looks like, Moon/nation in conflict with their resources/communications, then adjustments with Pluto/transformation/power-in 6th/working classes? Then final square to POF. Then Moon into Leo looses its potency, and straight into Saturn's terms, face and detriment, Jupiters triplicity. Moon receptly opposed Jupiter, and sextiled Saturn.


I dont know how to tell about the reduction of population, but looking at that chart, I would say something is going on behind the scenes.

Any thoughts on my amature attempt?
20th Oct 08, 10.25pm, 21 Cancer
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/Jo75Tiger/population.gif

Thanks for looking
NR

[Moulin]

my feeling is yes

it's a feeling not horary though ;)

GREAT question!!!

[Erickaf]

not even looking at the horary...but yes!!!

[waybread]

I am not a horary astrologer, but just someone who has looked into global population and food supply just a bit. First off, China has had a strict "one child" policy since the 1970s. Most western/developed nations (including Japan, S. Korea, &c.) voluntarily reduced their populations without nefarious or coercive means, simply as a natural result of people's personal decisions, with the shift from a farm-based economy where more kids=labour, to an urban-industrial economy. Italy, for example, has about the lowest birth-rate in the world, despite the Catholic church's strong pro-natalist position. Even countries like India today are voluntarily lowering their birth rate, although it is still growing--just not as fast as it once did.

For some pro-natalist countries, they want soldiers and a kind of power-calculus in their regions: cf. Palestinians and Israelis.

I would relax on this one.

[Neptune Rising]

Wow thanks for the replies!

I think the horary shows what might be going on behind the scenes. Waybread you are right though, no need to fear anything. I had second thoughts after posting this. Just by believing in something, can make it happen. So I'm going to believe in good health. Eating healthy, preferably organic food. Fear/stress is a major cause of illnesses, so balance, calm and other good feelings can help. Positive energy to all!

NR

[Nexus7]

I don't know much about horary either, but I did have a disturbing experience with one of my students recently. He was talking about something called the Lugano project, which apparently is some kind of elite movement of the super-rich. He was suggesting to me that if I followed their supreme logic faithfully, then of course I would understand the need to make difficult decisions, and accept that the culling of a few poor groups and ethnically-inferior humans is the way to go.

Iam not sure how far-right he really is, or whether he was trying to attempt some kind of psychological game with me.

Still not sure whether to ditch him,as one or two friends have suggested, he really gave me the creeps in that session.

Anyone else heard of the Lugano project?

[Neptune Rising]

Nexus
Ouch, does that student really believe that?! Incredible that some groups think they have the right to manipulate/destroy others. Something seems intrinsically wrong about that. Unbalanced. The effect of their actions must surely have a negative result. It seems like a negative energy that that student had which you picked up on. I've felt that from a couple of people I met through a friend, I am a bit wary around them. They do mention some strange practices that just don't resonate with my vibration. When I get these feelings I meditate on my heart centre.

I'd like to know more about Lugano project..

[archergirl]

Oh, one of my favourite subjects at Uni: public health!:D

Waybread is right; broadly speaking, there is a correlation between the industrialisation of a country and a decline in birthrate, which is why you find, when you study population graphs, most industrialised countries (most of the West, Japan, Commonwealth nations, etc) have 'upside-down triangles' or a straight column effect (in other words, the older population is equal to or larger than the younger-aged population, e.g. infant to 25). In underdeveloped countries it is the reverse: you get a very bottom-heavy triangle with very few old people and a large population of under-25s. The thing to consider, of course, is that infant mortality rates in such countries are sometimes staggeringly high anyway, as usually they live in places with little access to clean water/food or education.

This is an interesting chart. We see 'the populace', the Moon, very strong on its own angle. The 'powers that be', the 10th, Jupiter, is in fall in a cadent house. The Moon is in the sign of Jupiter's exaltation and Jupiter is in the sign of the Moon's detriment. This might indicate a difference in the ideals of the populace about 'government' and the government's disinterest in the well-being of the populace. But the opposition is past...this might show past attempts by the government to curb population growth (it depends on what population, too; I'm thinking of Indira Gandhi and of course China). Note Uranus right on the cusp of the 10th, and the separating trine from the Moon. Revolution! Rebellion! As we've seen in both India and China, these enforced limitations don't work. The Moon is strong, angular, and Void. The Moon will do what it wants.

What does it want? The populace's ability to reproduce is Venus, peregrine and void in the 5th house, the place of Venus' joy. We won't stop having babies, but I think being peregrine and void, the population won't be 'going anywhere'; Venus receives Jupiter, perhaps indicating some government intervention (since Jupiter is in the 6th of 'health'). Venus' next aspect is to square Saturn...perhaps a natural slowdown in birthrates, as Saturn sits on the cusp of 'family'....and likely shows families getting smaller.

I don't think there's necessarily any covert about this chart, or about population control. There has always been an historical progression of family size according to socio-economic pressures; the wealthy Romans had much smaller families than the plebeians and farmers.

There are enormous public health campaigns to control populations or at least incorporate family-planning practices; this goes from the richest countries (*snort* apart from the US, who has the highest teenage pregnancy rate amongst the wealthy countries) to the poorest, like Bangladesh (where lack of education, poverty, and cultural practices make things difficult for women).

I could go on and on; I love this subject. But in a nutshell, I don't think the populace is being influenced maliciously by global governance.

A lowered global population wouldn't be a bad thing, anyhow; neither would limits on the number of children one is allowed to make during one's reproductive years. I'm all for 'childbearing licences'. Globally, we'd have to get rid of the ridiculous ideas that one gender is preferable over another first, and that will take decades of steady education and a huge change in many ancient cultural practices, which few are willing to release without a fight.

AG:)

[Culpeper]

With fruitful signs in critical locations in the chart, it does not look as if populations will decline soon. Cancer is on the first house cusp, and its ruler the Moon is very strong. In a mundane question the first house rules the people.

Scorpio is in the fifth house. Its ruler Mars has essential dignity. This is the house of children, this indicates lots of children. They may go to war some day but for now they are favored.

The 10 house of government is ruled by Pisces and Jupiter. Jupiter is weak; this indicates that governments are not exerting much effort toward population control.

Finally Saturn and Pluto the authors of secret plots are cadent. There does not appear to be any secret plans to control popluation. I have to conclude that there is nothing of real concern happening right now.

[Neptune Rising]

Thanks for your replies AG and Culpepper!
Very interesting!

I am wondering about Saturn on the cusp of the 4th. He seems quite strong. Uranus, Saturn and Moon look like the strongest planets in this chart. With Moon as the strongest though void.

I just had a thought, could Uranus on the 10th cusp indicate sudden changes, upheavels too?

Alo a strong but stuck Mars will make a sextile to Saturn, then trine to Uranus... war? War with the enemy, whoever that is..? And there is a mutual reception with Mars/Uranus. Last aspect of Mars is trine to Ascendant. Could that be a carrying of light to Uranus? Something that will affect the people?

NR

[tikana]

hi guys/gals

non-astrological comment from me..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck

it is a cycle therefore there is no govtal plan to shrink the population.

Tik

[Neptune Rising]

Hi all
Here is something I found.

Apparently there is an alliance here in the Uk I found out today that is partitioning in Europe to stop this codex alimentaruis thing. I need to find out the name of this alliance but what I found out is that they want to gradually control alternative therapies, medicines, and vitamins. Reducing their use and/or quality.

What happens next, hopefully not, but people will hear that alternative therapies are now harmful, this will go into the press and they will probably start to go off it.

http://www.hpathy.com/papersnew/boyce-homeopathy-uk.asp

http://www.utne.com/1998-09-01/the-codex-conspiracy.aspx

NR

[Neptune Rising]

Mercury/Saturn are in strong mutual reception, and right on the nadir. It looks to me like the 'secret enemy' is very close to home. It trines Jupiter the 6th ruler. Would the 6th be the health of the population? Its in quite bad health now, and will enter the house of the enemy, and trine it. :mad: Now I'm wondering what that Uranus at the 10th is going to do with the enemy when it opposes it..

NR

[Neptune Rising]

Here is some information on codex
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRxT_6L_pA

NR

[natasa812]

Dear Neptun Rising and dear all,
nothing bad will hapen to us. As long as we optimistic Sagittarius exist on this planet and have our arrows on man kind enemyes whith our strong legs running and making sure that neither one enemy will run away, with our eyes turned up to the bright suny sky bringing you the light, you are all safe and can sleep quietly... Life is beautifull, the Sun is always shyning in the Sagittarius world and the good lucky Jupiter of ours isnt worth anything if we dont share him with the rest of you...
Sagittarius / pisces (with the Mars in the 1. - existing there only for the ``good purpose`` - how is that and why - because I say so - :) - tipically Sagittariusly expressed

[DanaRenee]

Hello i would like to say that i have been advised that if you follow William Lilly's rules for "Is this rumor true," i would think this would be a great one to do for this, and so the rumor would be true just based on the fact that the moon is on the asc. Here is a wonderful link with more information:
http://www.qhdc.org/barclay/guide1.htm also there is this:


William Lilly, in his Christian Astrology (p.192-194), has a few pointers on determining whether a rumor is true.

Lilly says that the Moon in the Ascendant means the rumor is true;.
If Lord one is angular, the rumor is true;
If the angles are fixed, the tale is true;
The Moon angular makes the story true;
If the dispositor of the Moon is angular and in a fixed sign, the story is true.
If the Moon is separating from a malefic and applying to a benefic that is angular,




Also read up on the group Monsanto and you will know that this is not just a rumor.

[AquariusT]

I thought this yesterday. On that full moon in Scorpio recently they announced in the USA that all women should STOP doing self breast exams and not get mammos until 50! :surprised: WTH!! Yes I believe they are.

[AquariusT]

Dear Neptun Rising and dear all,
nothing bad will hapen to us. As long as we optimistic Sagittarius exist on this planet and have our arrows on man kind enemyes whith our strong legs running and making sure that neither one enemy will run away, with our eyes turned up to the bright suny sky bringing you the light, you are all safe and can sleep quietly... Life is beautifull, the Sun is always shyning in the Sagittarius world and the good lucky Jupiter of ours isnt worth anything if we dont share him with the rest of you...
Sagittarius / pisces (with the Mars in the 1. - existing there only for the ``good purpose`` - how is that and why - because I say so - :) - tipically Sagittariusly expressed


Sweet. But Sags never contribute to problem solving..right? Just HOPE for the best. :lol:

[waybread]

I can't see why Monsanto would want to limit the human population. The more mouths to feed, the more products they can sell, and the higher their profits.

See: http://www.monsanto.com . They're in the agricultural seed, GMO, and chemicals business.

I think they would like to control the world's food supply, however.

[tikana]

welll

is there a plan? non astrology talk here - probably No..
but then a theory less people = more oxygen but that does not kill global warming problem... hmmm

interesting!

Pondering

Tik

[DanaRenee]

Well, here is the thing Monsanto, Codex, and the FDA, are all in together, and they don't want to kill us all off per say, they just want to make us sick with the foods we eat, ie.... putting high frutose corm syrup in everything, which is subsided by the government. High amounts of sodium, and msgs, and additives, food coloring, hormones, and it is one of the reason that everyone is getting fat! So they make us sick enough to have to keep going to the doctors, and having to get medications which are a billion dollar industry for these people also linked to the pharmacuticals. Also who is behind the H1N1 vaccines, to create a deversion so that we will be worried about the swind flu and not knowing that they are meeting to get things passed.


If we were all healthy they would not make money!!! You can control the population by controlling the food, look at N. Korea, and they control their people by starving them.

Not to be sarcastic but groups like monsanto don't tell people what they are up to, so your not going to get them to put it on their website.:wink:

Monsanto is in to seeds but they control the seeds and it is all genetically altered seeds which you can not harvest and save for the next years planting, so there again they control what you plant and what you eat.
Just like our beef, chicken. pigs. sheep, they are all given steroids to make them fatter when they are butchered and we eat them and those hormones are not good for us, i mean come on why do you think little girls and some little boys are developing at earlier ages now, and i may be wrong on this, this is just my thought: i think that we are seeing such a high rate of depression, hormones can trigger depression. So I will ask the horary Will Codex get this passed by 12-09. So start getting stocked up on your vitamins and your seeds for your gardens!!!

Well this would be true with the sun (asc) being in the 4th house,
(towns, soil. gardens. orchards. hidden things in the ground) wow that is scarey, and the moon in the eighth house of death, now who can dispute this?

But would you use the 11th house cusp for societies? if so then the moon in the 10th house(authority) a angular house, which would make it true.
But then if you used the 10th house cusp, for authority, (venus) it is in house 7 also a angular house, so this would be true also. I think this is would be then true right? if so this is very scary!!!!

[DanaRenee]

This was forwarded to me from a friend and i don't have a link sorry:

Codex Alimentarius: Nutricide Will
Commence December 31, 2009

More and more people are becoming concerned about the shady, secretive organization that is Codex Alimentarius - the thinly-veiled propaganda arm of global conglomerates that does everything it can to control and limit individual options to maintain or increase health.

Codex alimentarius is one of the major bodies behind the effort to limit access to nutritional products and information. Its motivation is not rocket science and neither is the source of its funding - money that somehow expected to return a profit to its members. Most of the information available regarding codex alimentarius refers to its role in the USA, but it is not a US-specific body. Far from it, Codex has wiggled its dirty little tentacles into just about every national or international body concerned with public health. Posing as a benefactor, it then uses its significant financial and political clout to do its masters bidding.

Behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission is the United Nations and the World Health Organization working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. Its initial efforts in the US with the FDA were defeated, so it found another ally in the FTC. Now Codex, with the FTC and the pharmaceutical cartel behind it, it threatens to become a trade issue, using the campaign of Operation Cure-All to advance its goals.

Codex began in 1893 when the Austria-Hungarian empire decided it needed a specific set of guidelines by which the courts could rule on cases dealing with food. This regulatory set of mandates became known as Codex Alimentarius and was effectively implemented until the fall of the empire in 1918. The United Nations (UN) met in 1962 and decided that Codex should be re-implemented worldwide in order to protect health of the consumers. Two-thirds of funding for Codex emanates from the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) while the other third comes from the World Health Organization (WHO).

As the clock ticks toward the irrevocable implementation deadline of Codex on December 31, 2009, the Natural Solutions Foundation (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/) (NSF) and its medical director, Dr. Rima Laibow, are feverishly working to change Codex guidelines.

Codex is the enemy of everyone except those who will profit from it, according to Dr. Laibow. She points to its association with those who committed crimes during the Nazi regime. At the end of World War II, the Nuremberg tribunal judged Nazis who had committed horrendous crimes against humanity and sentenced them to prison terms. One of those found guilty was the president of the megalithic corporation I.G. Farben, Hermann Schmitz. His company was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, and had extraordinary political and economic power and influence with the Hitlerian Nazi state.
Farben produced the gas used in the Nazi gas chambers, and the steal for the railroads built to transport people to their deaths.

While serving his prison term, Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply. When he got out of prison, he went to his friends at the United Nations (UN) and laid out a plan to take over the control of food worldwide. A trade commission called Codex Alimentarius (Latin for food code) was re-created under the guise of it being a consumer protection commission. But Codex was never in the business of protecting people. It has always been about money and profits at the expense of people.

The purpose, so they claimed, is to 'harmonize' regulations for dietary supplements worldwide and set international safety standards for the purposes of increased trade. In 2002, the FAO and WHO had serious concerns about the direction of Codex and hired an external consultant to determine its performance since 1962 and to designate which direction to take the trade organization. The consultant concluded that Codex should be immediately scrapped and eliminated. It was at this time that big industry realized the full monetary potential of this organization and exerted its powerful influence. The updated outcome was a toned down report asking Codex to address 20 various concerns within the organization.

Since 2002, the Codex Alimentarius Commission has covertly surrendered its role as an international public health and consumer protection organization. Pharmaceutical interests stepped in and began exerting their influence. Instead of focusing on food safety, Codex is using its power to promote worldwide restrictions on vitamins and food supplements, severely limiting their availability and dosages. Under the helm of big industry, the sole surreptitious purpose of the new codex is to increase profits for the global corporate juggernauts while controlling the world through food. The implicit understanding of their philosophy is that if you control food, you control the world.

The same institutions that have been set in place to safeguard the public are the very ones who foist unfair trade practices and unsafe foods upon humanity. This is to bring about international 'harmonization.' While global harmony sounds benign, is that the real purpose of this plan? While the stated goal of Codex is to establish unilateral regulations for dietary supplements in every country, the actual goal is to outlaw health products and information on vitamins and dietary supplements, except those under their direct control. These regulations would supersede domestic laws of every country without the voice of its citizens.

There are 180 member countries, including such notables as Canada, the USA, every member state of the EU, Switzerland, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, China, Japan and Australia which have already signed agreements pledging total harmonization of their laws including food and drug laws to these international standards in the future.

Why is it Africans are starving when their governments ascribe to Codex Alimentarius? They are starving because their food is in Western shops for sale and not their own markets. Why are we drinking wines from Africa when those grapes could be dried into raisins and distributed to feed the children of Africa? Many Africans are starving because availability of indigenous hardy plant seeds is reduced and the prices of quality indigenous strains of seeds inflated.

Farmers in Africa and all over the non-western world are finding that GM and western plant seeds will not grow properly or at all, particularly when using the traditional farming methods in these areas. Crop failure equals starvation in many agrarian societies and GM crops have been a total failure for many poor farmers. The bottom line is they are starving because both governments and Codex Alimentarius are corrupt and serve not the public interest but the interest of the large multinational corporations, like Monsanto (http://www.google.com/custom?cx=008658674907507047567:ozcb-7cqbvu&cof=LH:48;CX:PreventDisease.com;FORID:1;S:http://www.preventdisease.com;L:http://www.preventdisease.com/images/PDlogo938.gif;LP:1&q="monsanto"&hl=en&client=pub-0663688274569192).

In the Western countries the influence of Codex Alimentarius and its corporate cronies is just as pervasive. In the USA more and more restrictive food laws are being passed as I write. A new bill introduced in the house of representatives, H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, has ominous implications for organic farmers. It also threatens farmers’ ability to collect and store their own seeds as they have been doing for centuries. In addition, the American government’s refusal to label products containing GM foods means that any food product sold or exported from the USA can potentially contain GM ingredients.

You may be exposing yourself to GM ingredients (http://www.google.com/custom?cx=008658674907507047567:ozcb-7cqbvu&cof=LH:48;CX:PreventDisease.com;FORID:1;S:http://www.preventdisease.com;L:http://www.preventdisease.com/images/PDlogo938.gif;LP:1&q="genetically%2Bmodified"&hl=en&client=pub-0663688274569192) even when buying organic products. A recent study done by Professors Mark Partridge and Denis Murphy, at Glamorgan University in Wales, detected traces of GM ingredients in 10 of the 25 organic food samples tested. Professor Murphy stated, “We have recently observed that many soya products now carry ‘GM free’ or ‘organic’ labels, both of which imply an absence of GM ingredients in these foods. However, most of the soya now produced in the world comes from GM varieties.”

Plants in non-GM crops are having their genetics affected by neighboring GM fields. Wind and insect borne cross-pollination is threatening many of the corn species in Mexico. GM pollen has also affected at least one man’s honey crop in Germany, causing him to dispose of his harvest and relocate his bees so they would not have access to GM plants.

A wide variety of livestock are fed GM grains and then people eat the eggs, milk products and meat from these animals. If the grain does not need to be labeled GM, how can you be certain you are eating eggs, dairy and meat that are organic?

On December 31, 2009, What Will Codex Bring To All Member Countries of the World Trade Organization (WTO)?

Keep in mind, that according to the projections of the WHO and the FAO, a minimum of 3 billion people will die from the Codex mandated vitamin and mineral guideline alone. Here are just a few of the guidelines Codex will implement:


Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.
All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that have any positive health impact on the body are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to "prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease"

Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices).
All advice on nutrition (including written online or journal articles or oral advice to a friend, family member or anyone) will be illegal.
The reintroduction of deadly and carcinogenic organic pesticides that in 1991, 176 countries (including the U.S.) have banned worldwide including 7 of the 12 worst at the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pesticides (e.g., Hexachlorobenzene, Toxaphene, and Aldrin) will be allowed back into food at elevated levels. All together, Codex allows over 3,275 different pesticides, including those that are suspected carcinogens or endocrine disrupters. There is no consideration of the long-term effects of exposure to mixtures of pesticide residues in food.

Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin).

Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.
Mandatory use of growth hormones and antibiotics on all food herds, fish and flocks.
Nutrients allowed will be limited to a Positive List developed by Codex which will include such beneficial nutrients like Fluoride (3.8 mg daily) developed from environmental waste. All other nutrients will be prohibited nationally and internationally to all Codex-compliant countries.
All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).

Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated).

All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.

Genetically modified food would be sold worldwide without labeling.
Monsanto, a member of Codex, will benefit greatly as production of genetically modified (http://www.google.com/custom?cx=008658674907507047567:ozcb-7cqbvu&cof=LH:48;CX:PreventDisease.com;FORID:1;S:http://www.preventdisease.com;L:http://www.preventdisease.com/images/PDlogo938.gif;LP:1&q="genetically%2Bmodified"&hl=en&client=pub-0663688274569192) (GM) foods are stepped up and more GM plants are given the green light. Terminator seeds will be approved for international trade. GM food animals will also be on the way.

Codex poses a significant threat to the food supply, according to Dr. Robert Verkerk, founder and director of the Alliance for Natural Health. About 300 dangerous food additives that are mainly synthetic will be allowed under Codex, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, tartrazine, and more. Dr. Verkerk is particularly concerned that no consideration has been given to potential risks associated with long-term exposure to mixtures of additives.

According to John Hammell, a legislative advocate and the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF), here is what we have to look forward to:

"If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex Alimentarius is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly and its bosses, the major pharmaceutical firms. Predictably, this scenario has been denied by both the Canadian Health Food Association and the Health Protection Branch of Canada (HPB).

The Codex Alimentarius proposals already exist as law in Norway and Germany where the entire health food industry has literally been taken over by the drug companies. In these countries, vitamin C above 200 mg is illegal as is vitamin E above 45 IU, vitamin B1 over 2.4 mg and so on. Shering-Plough, the Norway pharmaceutical giant, now controls an Echinacea tincture, which is being sold there as an over the counter drug at grossly inflated prices. The same is true of ginkgo and many other herbs, and only one government controlled pharmacy has the right to import supplements as medicines which they can sell to health food stores, convenience stores or pharmacies."

The world’s food supply is under attack due to corrupt governments and organizations like Codex Alimentarius. This is most obvious in Africa, but the signs of encroaching food control can now be seen in almost every nation on Earth.

It is now a criminal offence in parts of Europe to sell herbs as foods. An agreement called EEC6565 equates selling herbs as foods to selling other illegal drugs. Action is being taken to accelerate other European countries into 'harmonization' as well.

Paul Hellyer in his book, "The Evil Empire," states: "Codex Alimentarius is supported by international banks and multinational corporations including some in Canada, and is in reality a bill of rights for these banks and the corporations they control. It will hand over our sovereign rights concerning who may or may not invest in our countries to an unelected world organization run by big business. The treaty would make it impossible for Canadian legislators either federal or provincial to alter or improve environmental standards for fear of being sued by multinational corporations whether operating in Canada or not.

This will create a world without borders ruled by a virtual dictatorship of the world's most powerful central banks and multinational companies. This world is an absolute certainty if we all sit on our hands and do nothing."

Dr. Rima Laibow MD, from the Natural Solutions Foundation, educating people about how to stop Codex Alimentarius from taking away our right to freely choose nutritional health.

What Can You Do?

The only way to avoid such cataclysmic events are to fight with the dissemination of knowledge to everyone you know. It does not matter whether they are still asleep or hypnotized by the enslavement of daily life or too busy to pay attention -- the time to wake up is now!

Governments around the world and the collaborating media have been trying to distract us while all these egregious and mandatory standards are covertly passed. It is time to take action and you can do so by going to (www.healthfreedomusa.org (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/)) and following the latest updates on Codex. You can also sign a legal citizen's petition here: (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ind... (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=184)) .

John Hammell's International Advocates for Health Freedom
website: http://www.iahf.com (http://www.iahf.com/)

"The Health Movement Against Codex Alimentarius (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/index.htm#top)" - article from Dr. Rath's website

'U.S. and European Leaders Agree on Principles to Harmonize Dietary Supplement Regulations: 'http://www.crnusa.org/shellnr112000.html (http://www.crnusa.org/shellnr112000.html)

Federal Register where the FDA states its intention to harmonize with Codex standards: http://iahf.com/codx-fda.txt (http://iahf.com/codx-fda.txt)

Read, "WHOSE TRADE ORGANIZATION (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/158231001/ref=nosim/naturalheal0c-20)? Corporate Globalization and the Erosion of Democracy" by By Lori Wallach and Michelle Sforza,
Public Citizens Global Trade Watch:

http://www.tradewatch.org/publications/wtobook.htm (http://www.tradewatch.org/publications/wtobook.htm)
Sign the petition - Click on 'Sign Health Freedom Petition:'

http://www.iahf.com/index2.html (http://www.iahf.com/index2.html)

Also sign the European Anti-Codex petition at: www.laleva.cc (http://www.laleva.cc/petizione/english/intro_eng.html)

For more information go to: http://www.campaignfortruth.com (http://www.campaignfortruth.com/)





Genetically Engineered Food: A Cause For Great Concern (http://preventdisease.com/home/tips80.shtml)
http://preventdisease.com/home/tips103.shtml (http://preventdisease.com/home/tips103.shtml)
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[Neptune Rising]

Thank you for that information Dana.
Its quite chilling really to think they plan to do all that to us. Is the world really headed to that sort of fate?
I'm from the UK but dont really know how this Codex relates to the UK.

[Neptune Rising]

I went to the Codex website, and looking through their list of food standards, found aspartame, hydrochloric acid amongst other things on the food additives they recommend... http://www.codexalimentarius.net/gsfaonline/additives/details.html?id=178

even going to far to say they will put aspartame in rolled oats! I love porridge for breakfast in the winter because its one of the most natural things I can have, all the other cereals in the shops are packed with additives. If they have their way I can forget eating natural products, its almost like being force fed!