Car stolen. HELP PLEASE

[Summery Joy]

Hey guys,

My father's car was stolen this morning from right under our building. We found out about the robbery around 5:35 am on 21 March 2006 Cairo, Egypt, GMT+2 31e15 , 30n03. The car was probably stolen somewhere between 5:25 and then. What happened was this:

The doorman's wife got up in the morning and wanted to get out of their place. The door was stuck and she couldn't open it. She asked her husband (the doorman) for help. While he was trying to open the door, she looked out of their window and saw someone fiddling around my father's car (they live in the floor storey and their window shows the street but their view is blocked by a tree). The guy never answered and she sensed danger. She moved about a bit to get to see past the tree. She got a look at the portrait of the guy's face and immediately realized he's not my father. She started screaming and she figured out that the door was not stuck. Somehow the thief managed to lock them in. When the guy heard her screams, he immediately opened the car door, got in and drove away (showing that he had already got the car open). In a minute or so, the doorman finally got the door open and went out to chase the thief, but the latter was gone. So he came upstairs and told us what happened in very shaky, panicky voice. My father went down to the police station with the doorman and reported the robbery. Investigations have been on since then. My aunt knows the head of the police of our city so she called him up and told him what happened in hopes for increased help (which we are getting really).

I thought of this question "Will we get the car back?" at 5:44 am on 21 March 2006 Cairo, Egypt, GMT+2 31e15 , 30n03

Note that I was the one who asked the question but the car belongs to my father. Generally it's like a family car but he is the only one you uses it. I'm not even allowed near it if he's not around. So, I don't know whether to use my 3rd house or the turned 3rd house from the 4th. Besides, I'm not good doing my own horaries anyway.

Now this is a thought that I got hours after I thought of this question. Can this chart show clues on the thief? Can it tell me where the car is? See, it seems that kind of thing has been happening in the city lately and in many cases they found the car in the same district.


Here's the chart
http://www.geocities.com/sorehearted/carstolen.gif

Help, please.

[Radu]

Hi Sore

Don't worry, you'll get the car back! at least I hope so :)

First, the car is shown in the 2nd not the 3rd because it is an item (=2nd house) used for transportation (=3rd house). One wouldn't use the 3rd house but the 2nd house for a book that is used also for a 3rd house matter (reading).
Secondly, the question was phrased "will we", so no need to turn the chart, as "we" includes your father, and this is still a family car.

So "we" is 1st house = Jupiter (notice the Sun exalted in the 1st, that's your father).
The car is 2nd house ruler, Venus.
Both the Moon and Jupiter apply to Venus, so you should get the car back.

However, as Venus is not received by your significators, I think this will not happen easily. Mercury (7th house ruler), the thief is applying to the Pars of Fortune, so I suppose the thief will manage to sell the car and get some good money on it.
But Mercury is weak and retrograde and is disposed by Jupiter (also 10th house ruler, = the police), so eventually he will be caught. As Mercury is cadent, the thief is hiding now, but the Moon disposed by Jupiter (=the police) applies to it = police investigations will lead to the thief...

I hope you'll give us good news soon...!

[blumen]

Sorry for the car. I am going to have a look at the chart too. In the meantime, have you tried spreading the word in the neighbourhood, going through unofficial channels as well, to see if anybody may be able to help you buy back the car from the thieves?

[blumen]

Ok, it is likely that I will interpret this chart in a completely wrong way, but let’s see.

Your father is Jupiter and the Sun. The thief is Mercury and the car is Venus, lord of the second house.

At first I thought the car must have been grey or of a similar color. Because Saturn is grey/black and rules Aquarius, the sign where Venus is. Venus

.signifies white, or milky sky-colour mixed with brown, or a little green

Now I see that the 11th rules yellow. I stick to light grey, even though I must admit I have no clue.

The car is not near the house. But after re-reading your post, maybe it is in the same district where you live. After all we are talking about a 20 million people city. The Moon, ruler of the fourth house, (district where you live), is applying a sextile to Venus. The direction of the car is indicated by the placement of Venus in the eleventh house: South-South East.
Venus is in Mercury's terms and faces. The car is technically still controlled by the thief. BUT it has either been abandoned, or parked in a place where there is nobody. Being in Aquarius, Venus is in Saturn’s rulership, and in the exaltation of NO planet. I would say, the car is in a place where there is water. This is not because of Aquarius, of course, but because of the conjunction of Venus with Neptune. This is tricky, as on one hand can indicate water, quite literally. On the other, it could indicate transformation (Neptune= transforming, camouflage, changing the appearance of things, diluting influence). Therefore:

1. they are going to paint the car in a different color. OR
2. if there is a district in Cairo where there are underground waters, water, chemical plants, and which is quite lonely, or “alternative” then the car may be there if such is the will of God.

For the moment the car may be abandoned (Venus ruled by Saturn). In the place where it is now, the car cannot be seen easily. (Jupiter= to see and to be seen: 8H= occult house, hiding, Jupiter is retrograde, manifesting its worst qualities and furthermore squares Venus)

The thief is indicated by Mercury, retrograde and peregrine in its sign of detriment. This is really too bad. If the significator were only peregrine, I would say: natural, this is the thief, it must be peregrine.
But the retrogradation occurs in the 12 house. Also, Mercury is a few degrees from applying a conjunction to the significator of your father (Sun).
Mercury is in aspect with the primary significator of your father, Jupiter, and of the police (Jupiter)
Jupiter (the police, your father) disposes of Mercury. It may be that the police will be able to get hold of this person.

But I have a different hypothesis. Maybe it is too far fetched. But I see quite intricate rulerships here.
The thief and your father are both disposed by Jupiter, and Jupiter disposes the police as well. Strange, isn’t it?

Jupiter is retrograde, in Scorpio and in the eight house. It cannot be seen (Jupiter=view, to see; 8H=hiding). It communicates with the thief somehow (trine between Mercury and Jupiter). It controls the thief. It has authority over the police (Sagittarius). When I considered this I had a flash of intuition and thought: this is a criminal ring. But take this with a grain of salt because this interpretation may be biased.

There is a trine between Venus and Mars, and Mars is the ruler of the third house, and in Gemini. You could get news about the car. What we can see here is Mercury collecting the light both of Mars and of Jupiter. As if the thief is in touch with his boss and with somebody else signified by Mars. Mars in turn is the dispositor of Jupiter, of the thief and of your father. Quite complicated…….

Again, this may be extremely biased but I think that:

1. the police has infiltrated somebody and it is in this way that you will get news of the car.
2. we are dealing with a criminal ring, in which some people in the police may be involved. And this is how you will get news about the car. Through the help of some middleman.

I agree with Radu that there are very good chances to get the car back,

Let's wait and see what happens,

Blumen

[Summery Joy]

Thank you both for your replies. I'm calmer now.

Bluemen,

The car is black and grey :)

And I don't think that there's a ring with the police involved, but there may be some other kind of ring because the police preliminary investigation in the scene of the crime suggested that the thied is someone who had access to the car keys somehow. Maybe it's someone we know.

I'll keep you guys informed. Thanks again.

[fensi88]

Blumen,
What we can see here is Mercury collecting the light both of Mars and of Jupiter.

I think this is not right, you probably want to say something different!

[Springup]

oops.. sorry to hear that happened.. hope you are able to retrieve the car ASAP!

[Summery Joy]

OK. We never got the car back. No news at all. My father is about to buy a new car.

I have one last question the subject:

Now that it's been more almost 3 months, what has happened to the car?

08 June 2006.
Cairo, Egypt. 30n03, 31e15.
6:57 pm (GMT+3: daylight's saving time is on)