Mars in Taurus

[poshslob]

Any special insight on Mars in Taurus?

What are the positives and negatives of this placement?

[Nexus7]

That is my Mars placement, the handle of a bucket in the 6th House, aspecting both luminaries and opposing chart ruler.

Once it warms up, it is like an express train, from the point of view of getting involved in something. In areas to do with relationships, maybe because it is disposed by a Venus which is square Neptune, I often feel that there can be difficulties in judging when to be assertive, when to be diplomatic and I often feel that either I have been way too forceful and aggressive, or a total pushover, in things, for example, like negotiating. I consider it a big weakness of mine that the desire to be liked can sometimes mean that I am not as assertive with some people as I should be and at school especially, that was a big problem. But someone still once said to me at a fair once 'to watch that Mars of mine, probalby underestimating how it can come across.'

Being in the 6th, I did feel in the end that it might be better to work for myself rather than for others too.

[nejispirit]

Any special insight on Mars in Taurus?

What are the positives and negatives of this placement?

Well, with all my Aries planets and Mars in Taurus, I am not the typical Mars in Taurus kind of person I guess; I am not "slow to anger/temper", I am rather quick at it. My Mars is in the 9th and I think it definitely... it doesn't make me want to rush and travel, that's for sure but it can make me the type to eventually anger over intellectual debates easily.

Ah, let's see I have Mars opposition Pluto, Mars trine Ascendant and Mars trine Jupiter.

[Derestanne]

Isabel Hickey says of Mars in Taurus, "Money and Sex are important". :56:Whatever you have in Scorpio will give valuable clues to how you are likely to handle this energy. With Venus in Scorpio, be assured that relationships are going to be "push - pull" and jealousy and possessiveness will be often recurring themes. Neptune in Scorpio could mean addiction problems and your partner / spouse could be a probable source of this problem.

I've seen Mars in Taurus folks cheat to win; they are often too tenacious to admit defeat in most anything. But that can also translate into great stamina and persistence when the going gets tough! :cool:

[poshslob]

Whatever you have in Scorpio will give valuable clues to how you are likely to handle this energy.

I have North Node in Scorpio, no other planets. What clues would NN give?

Mars in Taurus is conjunct South Node.

[nejispirit]

Isabel Hickey says of Mars in Taurus, "Money and Sex are important". :56:Whatever you have in Scorpio will give valuable clues to how you are likely to handle this energy. With Venus in Scorpio, be assured that relationships are going to be "push - pull" and jealousy and possessiveness will be often recurring themes. Neptune in Scorpio could mean addiction problems and your partner / spouse could be a probable source of this problem.

I've seen Mars in Taurus folks cheat to win; they are often too tenacious to admit defeat in most anything. But that can also translate into great stamina and persistence when the going gets tough! :cool:

What does Miss Hickey have to say about Pluto in Scorpio?

[LionKing]

I have Mars in Taurus but it is in the 10H. I'd say 'military' seems to be an outstanding occurance in my life. That and I'm a pretty good keriokie singer... ha!:D Cheat?!! I don't think so. Never cheated on either ex-wife and I don't cheat people in anything. I guess that is the "Leo" in me. I always allow my opponent to pick himself off the ground before I kick him again... ha! Naa! All kidding aside... I'm not like that anymore. Besides... just turning 50.. I'm too old... ha!
V/r LionKIng:sunny:

[Derestanne]

Posh,

North Node in Scorpio opposing Mars in Taurus is something like "Jaws"! Relentlessly scout your prey, but as soon as the harpoon boats show up you dive deep into the sea with a whale of a splash to disappear from view!

South Node Conjunct Mars suggests you once considered yourself too evasive, fickle and lacking in commitment. By aligning South Node with Mars in Taurus you now have greater fortitude, stamina and "backbone" to take on lots of things that once scared you away. Heaven help the harpoon crew now! CHOMP! :eek:

Neji,

You need to read the whole section on Pluto in Scorpio and so does your entire Generation. Get a copy of "Astrology, A Cosmic Science" by Isabel Hickey.

Lion,

Maybe these days you're long in the tooth, but I bet you were nothing to fool with when you were age 25. Am I right or am I right?

[BobZemco]

Any special insight on Mars in Taurus?

What are the positives and negatives of this placement?

I don't know. Not much to go on. What house is Taurus and which houses are Scorpio and Aries?

Does Mars make any aspects to Venus, or is Venus in Scorpio or Aries?

[charmvirgo]

My long time neighbour/friend has Mars conj Sun in Taurus.

He applies his energy slowly, steadily and consistently, with ongoing steady and regulated output.
But I have to say he is incredibly dull and responsible in the use of this energy as he is always studying or working.
He has endurance and persistence for sure, even on the most boring and serious tasks. He is reliable and loyal.

[LionKing]

Derestanne... yea... I'm 6'1" and 200 pounds. Just retired from the navy but I still stay in great shape. I jog nearly every day. I watch what I eat and yea... a long time ago I use to be a bouncer... I can see a little age in my face but for just turning 50 and never smoked in my life... yea... I've done well physically. I'd like to stay this way when I'm 120 years... ha!
V/r LionKing

[poshslob]

I don't know. Not much to go on. What house is Taurus and which houses are Scorpio and Aries?

Does Mars make any aspects to Venus, or is Venus in Scorpio or Aries?

I have Taurus on the 5th, Scorpio on the 11th, Aries on the 4th.

Mars doesn't aspect Venus, Venus is in Virgo in the 9th.

I have a Mars/Moon/South Node conjunction in Taurus in the 5th.

[nejispirit]

Posh

Neji,

You need to read the whole section on Pluto in Scorpio and so does your entire Generation. Get a copy of "Astrology, A Cosmic Science" by Isabel Hickey.


Heh, I guess you aren't going to write a couple sentences for it- nah, it's cool, I can't really afford much of anything right now- but I'll get it sometime possibly.

Well you see, I do know that my entire generation has that, but my entire generation does not have Mars opposing Pluto, so that's what I meant.

[poshslob]

Heh, I guess you aren't going to write a couple sentences for it- nah, it's cool, I can't really afford much of anything right now- but I'll get it sometime possibly.

Well you see, I do know that my entire generation has that, but my entire generation does not have Mars opposing Pluto, so that's what I meant.

Nejispirit,

I have the same book. The Pluto in Scorpio section is pretty long and hard to summarize in a couple of sentences.

Maybe one day you can go to the bookstore and just read it there...you don't have to buy the book. It's worth a read.

[nejispirit]

Nejispirit,

I have the same book. The Pluto in Scorpio section is pretty long and hard to summarize in a couple of sentences.

Maybe one day you can go to the bookstore and just read it there...you don't have to buy the book. It's worth a read.

Hmm, I dunno- not really interested in reading up on a generational thing that far, maybe a few sentences in a bookstore- but not the whole thing :D

I suppose generational things are interesting but... not very specific, you know?

[BobZemco]

I have Taurus on the 5th, Scorpio on the 11th, Aries on the 4th.

Mars doesn't aspect Venus, Venus is in Virgo in the 9th.

I have a Mars/Moon/South Node conjunction in Taurus in the 5th.

The South Node is where you'll run for security. The problem here is the Moon/Mars conjucntion that might make you inclined to take some unnecessary risks, and that's more so with the 5th House ruling gambling/speculation. You need to be cognizant of that. It could be worse. You could have Mars conjunct Uranus or Neptune conjunct the South Node in the 5th. Your progressed Mars is never going to move to square your natal North/South Node, but your transiting Mars will, and when it moves into your 2nd House you need to direct your attention and energy toward the North Node in the 11th and resist the emotional temptation to run toward 5th House matters (especially if they involve gambling/speculation).

A lot of your energy will be directed to 4th and 11th House matters, which is nice. Your chart seems to indicate an affinity to children, and I don't think Taurus is a barren sign, so the other South Node issue is a tendency to bury/hide yourself with your home and children and use it as a safety net. Project yourself out into your friends and groups.

With Venus in the 9th, you might consider teaching as a career, especially with Mars/Moon in the 5th (where the Moon is exalted).

Other than that, I don't see any problems with Mars in Taurus in the 5th.

[jamiescott]

BobZemco, you say The South Node is where you'll run for security.

Thanks, I haven't heard it put that way. I find the opposite happens to me (my chart is in my public profile). I run home for safety. I want to live more in my 10th house. Do you think that the nodes can reverse? What do you think is happening here? I don't want to sidetrack this thread so if you have any imput : jamiesecott (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11836)

[doublecrossed fish]

My Mars is in Taurus in the 12th and I have Taurus rising. I've experienced this like a train. Hard to get going and just as hard to stop once it is going. Also, the idea of tracks is quite appropriate to Mars in Taurus, movement along a narrow pathway with no quick and easy turns. I would add inertia to Mars in Taurus.

Then there is the issue of aggression. Mars in Taurus can be paralyzingly easy going...until there is a disruption to the harmony. Then, the rage comes! After all, Mars is about survival. It rules the root chakra and the time of infancy when our predominant energy is red and we're single-mindedly, actually INSTINCTIVELY, focusing on growth and sheer survival. And, Taurus is the energy of the next phase. After the infant realizes that he will survive, he's ready to move from DOING, from Aries, to BEING, to Taurus. So, Mars in Taurus is a combination of the first two experiences we all have, the most basic doing and the most basic being energy in its most primal physical state.

[charmvirgo]

Then there is the issue of aggression. Mars in Taurus can be paralyzingly easy going...until there is a disruption to the harmony. Then, the rage comes!
Well, I deliberately didn't mention the rage factor with Mars in Taurus in my previous post, because I wanted to hear someone else say it first.

I think there is a similar rage quality for Mars in Libra.

[doublecrossed fish]

Interesting point. I don't have personal experience with Mars in Libra, but it makes sense to me that it would have some similarity with Mars in Taurus. Both signs are ruled by Venus, so it's more than a bit sexual having Mars in either sign. Also, Mars is in the opposite sign when in Libra, self and other. So there's that tension that can build. I would think that since Mars is involved in both cases that the anger can be physical in each case, yet the difference might lie in the WAY the anger is expressed. Taurus adds to the physicality while Libra's air would fuel the anger, the Mars fire, but would more quickly "burn-out".

That's all speculation. I wonder if anyone out there has any personal stories.

[charmvirgo]

The rage issue with Mars in Libra is disruption in the balance of communication, quite often caused by this person in the first place.
I am talking about a boss I once had with Mars in Libra.
Yet I also have known friends with this position who have always seemed totally peaceful so far.

My Mars/Taurus neighbour/friend (since 1978) lost his temper at me last night because I suggested we might watch the DVD at my flat instead of at his, as apparently I was trying to upstage him. He did then explain that he'd spent some time setting up a projector, but he only had to say that calmly.
In the past I used to take a cup of tea with me ready made when I went next door to see him, until he got annoyed by that saying I was rejecting his hospitality and that his tea was not good enough for me.

[Nexus7]

'My Mars/Taurus neighbour/friend (since 1978) lost his temper at me last night because I suggested we might watch the DVD at my flat instead of at his, as apparently I was trying to upstage him. He did then explain that he'd spent some time setting up a projector, but he only had to say that calmly.
In the past I used to take a cup of tea with me ready made when I went next door to see him, until he got annoyed by that saying I was rejecting his hospitality and that his tea was not good enough for me.'

That is never just Mars in Taurus!!

Sorry, but that sounds symptomatic of a much deeper problem with his ego for this rage to keep on erupting. I don't know what aspects he has to his Mars, the state of his Sun, Moon, Saturn...but there is a whole lot more to it than that, his Mars position alone, I would opine.

I would have to say 'guilty as charged' for a certain amount of raging, too.
I see it in part as 'hurry sickness,' trying to do too much in too little time - for a Taurus Mars, I don't know where the urge to do everything at breakneck speed comes from, but I know it is not the healthiest way to be, at all times. I also find that red-rag feeling emerging whenever I feel that a student has maybe not recognised that my time might be as important as me as his or hers is to her. One 'forgot' to tell me she was at a meeting more than once and this time I definitely got the sense that here was a touch of passive/aggressive over and above the genuine 'something came up: well, then, afterwards, fantasies of impaling and roasting such individuals live over a spit do tend to appeal....

[charmvirgo]

That is never just Mars in Taurus!!

You are right, he has Pluto square Mars but not a close orb, it obviously clouds his judment at times, but not strongly as the orb is not strong.

I already described him in my first post above as very steady fixed energy, studious and patient, always busy doing something serious, shy and he does not have a big ego, not as you are imagining him at all.

The outburst is very rare and only lasts for a short while. I have known him since 1978 and I am talking about just a few occasions over all those years. But rage is rage.

[Nexus7]

I don't mean that this person must be a an obvious and blatant prima donna, though on first reading this did smack of the kind of sensitivity of someone who feels easily overlooked on first occasion. I have had people get very angry with me for what sounds on the face of it to be very similar reasons to the seemingly trivial ones you mentioned. In the case of one such person who got very angry and critical with me more than once for various perceived oversights (and his Mars was in Cancer in this case, Venus in Virgo), an old friend really gave the the gypsy warning about getting too heavily involved with him.

'His mother spoilt him,' she told me. 'Such men are very sensitive.'

Maybe, in any case, there was a more obviously simple and Taurean cause for the rage: there were some carefully-laid plans that were upset.

[BobZemco]

That is never just Mars in Taurus!!

Correct. I might be willing to accept that if the situtation was Mars in Taurus in the 1st/7th Houses (Hello? Houses anyone?) but even so I would expect to find an aspect to Uranus or Pluto that debilitates Mars.

[doublecrossed fish]

Or something else in Cancer or the fourth house. I have Moon in the same degree as Uranus in Cancer with Jupiter three degrees ahead, plus south node in Cancer. The Moon/Uranus is binovile the Mars and the node is sextile it. So, they aren't really "afflicted". But the Mars is in my 12th and it seems that the Cancer hypersensitivity exacerbated by Uranus and exaggerated by Jupiter can make me suddenly (Uranus) very insecure. At that point I react chaotically with the Mars in Taurus, immediately tuning in to the darkest aspects of any provocation. The darkness is not fabricated, I'm just very sensitive to it and try to impulsively deal with it by going into rage. Cancer and Taurus aren't considered in conflict, but under these particular circumstances, they can be. Context means so much in astrology.

[charmvirgo]

[quote=Nexus7]
That is never just Mars in Taurus!!
You are right, he has Pluto square Mars but not a close orb, it obviously clouds his judment at times, but not strongly as the orb is not strong.

I already described him in my first post ab
ove as very steady fixed energy, studious and patient, always busy doing something serious, shy and he does not have a big ego, not as you are imagining him at all.

The outburst is very rare and only lasts for a short while. I have known him since 1978 and I am talking about just a few occasions over all those years. But rage is rage. As previously stated but perhaps not read?

[bigsky3]

I have mars in taurus in the first house with an aries rising. For me, it adds some weight and focus into a very airy chart. I enjoy working with my hands and taking the time for meticuluos work when I am inspired. I am generally a very easy going person and don't get mad at the small stuff. In an argument, I am very thorough and determined to win. My mars squares 4 planets in aquarius so it probalby gives me some trouble. I'm still learning my chart. As far as the rage thing, I am not a violent person, more like the opposite, but there has been some aggression towards me. The taurus vibe is different from the rest of my chart and I like that it's out there in the first house. It's 'slow to action' asks me to examine my choices and tame the impulsive nature of airies.