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Neptune Rising
09-26-2008, 07:16 PM
Hello :o

This was a weird day, I got arrested! Never have before. I got the wrong type of train ticket, got to the ticket barriers and was stopped. I offered to pay the correct fair as well as having another albeit wrong ticked but the refused my money, instead threatening to fine me maximum fair. I was late for an appointment that will give me my salary, if I don't attend this appointment I wont get any money, and I'm broke. So in desperation, a totally crazy no logic moment, thinking only of my salary, I made a run for it trying to get to my appointment, but there was police around the station and of course they chased me, caught me and cuffed me. I got let off though after all that comotion.


I was wondering what to look for for an arrest in this event chart. I'd be fascinated if there was something in this chart that shows it.

The only thing I can see is the POF squaring my significator Saturn.
Mars is the police.
Is the 9th house anything to do with it? That is critical, probably more Mars than Venus.

Anyway here is the chart for interest..

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/Jo75Tiger/arrest.gif

NR

LionKing
09-26-2008, 08:11 PM
Sorry to hear these things. I will say a few things and maybe others can also enter advice as well. Arrests and confinements are of the 12H and the ruler Jupiter was presently there. It does trine Sat., as eveyone knows at this time. And yes... you are correct Sat., is your ruler planet in this chart. The Moon is in asp., to Jupiter before it goes to your ruler planet. Maybe that was the significator on this one. If I remember I think lawyers and policemen are of the 9H and courts are of the 10H. Nasty to see that Mars was the ruler of both H. Hey I'm still an amateur at this so I hope others are of help. V/r LionKing :sunny:

Neptune Rising
09-27-2008, 12:14 AM
Thanks LionKing! :)

Ah yes 12th house of confinement! Quite right, ruled by Jupiter in fall, about to conjunct ascendant. Mars also in detriment.

Weird that Mars in Libra exhalts Saturn.
Saturn in Virgo doesnt recieve Mars, but is in Jupiter's detriment.

I wonder if Moon just recently trine Pluto had anything to do with it. There were so many police and immigration officers around the station, it was like they were doing a swoop or something like that.

And confinement got me! Juptiter and Saturn trine. Well I wasn't in a cell, but bad enough.


What an experience! I had some weird transits this day too to my progressed chart, couldn't see anything in my natal transits that could show that. Maybe I should post my progressed chart, it seems to be quite telling of an arrest. There is a strange yod being activated by Mars.

NR

RayAustin
09-27-2008, 12:17 AM
Sorry to hear these things. I will say a few things and maybe others can also enter advice as well. Arrests and confinements are of the 12H and the ruler Jupiter was presently there. It does trine Sat., as eveyone knows at this time. And yes... you are correct Sat., is your ruler planet in this chart. The Moon is in asp., to Jupiter before it goes to your ruler planet. Maybe that was the significator on this one. If I remember I think lawyers and policemen are of the 9H and courts are of the 10H. Nasty to see that Mars was the ruler of both H. Hey I'm still an amateur at this so I hope others are of help. V/r LionKing :sunny:

You made a run for it Neptune?! You're brave. :eek:

Had a question though Lion ~ The aspect between Jupiter and saturn is a separating trine, and has been separating for a while now ... maybe this is just horary rules but it seemed like if an aspect was separating it didn't mean too much. Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Neptune Rising
09-27-2008, 12:18 AM
Thanks again LionKing, your a star!

NR

jamiescott
09-27-2008, 12:22 AM
What did your transit chart look like? I thought Pluto ruled the cops?

Neptune Rising
09-27-2008, 12:24 AM
You made a run for it Neptune?! You're brave. :eek:


Haha a moment of madness! I somehow thought they would all forget about me if I just disapeared around the corner, just like in the movies :p Alas I had flip flops on, left my get away car at home with no petrol!

Ra, Saturn and Jupiter will trine again, a bit later I think, towards the end of November I think... I need to check.

NR

Neptune Rising
09-27-2008, 12:26 AM
What did your transit chart look like? I thought Pluto ruled the cops?

I'll post it in the transit section, I think it looks interesting. I think Lilith is involved also. Also 12th house in the progressed chart, and 9th house.

Not sure what Pluto rules. I'd love to find out. That Moon trine Pluto did look a bit ominous today. I knew I should have cycled there instead of getting the train!

NR

Neptune Rising
09-27-2008, 12:46 AM
Hi

Heres the progressed natal with transits



http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/Jo75Tiger/prognataltransits.gif?t=1222476943

There is an exact inconjunct with transiting Mars to my progressed natal Moon. I think thats the one!

Also progressed Venus and Moon are in sextile, so transit Mars is inconjunctin both of them. 9th, 2nd, and 4th houses involved. Venus also rules my prog 9th house, Moon rules the 7th.


Moon was opposite progressed Sun, then opposite Lilith. Transit Pluto is also sextile progressed Sun. And Moon was in square to Pluto. I don't know what all that means, especially Lilith, still trying to figure her out. Maybe transiting Moon activated progressed Sun.#

NR

23
09-27-2008, 10:46 PM
Ditto 12th house stuff being confinement (ruler of 12th on asc but also very lucky confinement) but you should take note of saturn in particular as (i) it rules authority (here police and transport authorities), (b) it is chart ruler. Capricorn is ruled by saturn and saturn is about restriction. The authorities took a suspicious view, they engaged their authority through searching means, see saturn in the 8th. Also the sun, mars, mercury are also all in the 8th. Now the interesting stuff is that saturn is opposed to uranus - meaning a shock of some sort (uranus). Uranus rules Aquarius, and Aquarius the sign here is intercepted in the first house. Interceptions are blockages and the 1st house is very personal, so I would say it is a shocking block which was very personal to you. Hurt and confusion and deception were caused to you - chiron, neptune, the situation had that flavour to it as well - NN in 1st in the interception as well. Also uranus is in 2nd - a shock to your values or pecuniary issues. Now sun is the ego of the chart, sun rules leo and leo is intercepted in the 7th house - blocking up of relations. The situation also might've gotten emotional because the moon was in the 7th but maybe somehow detached as it is in virgo, moon also rules the DC here - emotional relations. The start of Aries in intercepted - mars is in 8th - searching but detrmiment (libra), mercury is the ruler of the 6th and 8th - police doing their "service" to investigate. However, because of all the interceptions, what should be something ordinary ended up becoming an arrest. POF in sag and 12th house cusp in sag with jup on the asc was your lucky break and broke the 1st/7th house problems.

EDIT - also 11th house is duplicated with Sag - community issues and the law. POF in the middle of it.

cassanra
09-28-2008, 12:57 AM
What I noticed right away was that mars in conjunct your ninth house progressed cusp and then the rest follows. It is like a warning...aggression, 9th house, inconjunct ruler of 12th and and 9th....wow...I will look a little more closely to the cusps of progressions. That is amazing. I am sorry to here it though. Bless your heart....sorry.

Neptune Rising
09-28-2008, 02:24 AM
Wow thanks 23 that was a very interesting interpretation. All true. Yes it should have been an ordinary thing, normally the person is able to buy a ticket when they get off the train, at least in my experience. I thought they only fine if you cannot / will not pay. On this occasion it was different.

Yup they were definatley suspicious. About 15 or more police and immigration officers dotted all around the station, and more outside. Not sure who they were looking for. Houdini?!

:p

Chiron/Neptune yes I experienced that and it was certainly shocking/Uranus. Definatly felt decieved and fiddled. Arrested and taken to the station over a train ticket that I tried to pay initially. I never knew that side of the police existed before, I have a very different view of them now. They even mentioned abh because I made them run after me, and running could have made them damage themselves. But changed their minds about that charge.

Moon in 7th yes it did get emotional at first, quite scary, but I thought I just have to see this through so detached from my emotions.

11th and 12th Sag, maybe that was the immigration officers all around too, community issues.


I'm getting the bus next time!


Thanks again for the interpretation, I don't have much clue when it comes to event charts. It was fascinating. :)

NR

Neptune Rising
09-28-2008, 02:41 AM
What I noticed right away was that mars in conjunct your ninth house progressed cusp and then the rest follows. It is like a warning...aggression, 9th house, inconjunct ruler of 12th and and 9th....wow...I will look a little more closely to the cusps of progressions. That is amazing. I am sorry to here it though. Bless your heart....sorry.

Hi Cassanra

Thank you for the well wishes.:)
Yeah Mars there, and retrograde Mercury, I forgot about him going backwards. Haha so Mars and Mercury inconjunct Jupiter ruler 12th and Venus rules of 9th, and inconjunct progressed Moon. I wish I knew the signs before! :p Yes its amazing, I would have never guessed that those inconjuncts could lead to that.


So progressed Moon is in sextile with Jup/Venus, and a yod is formed by transiting Mars/Merc rx.


Hmm I'm paying attention now to when the Moon, Sun then Mercury passes over that same point 24 degrees Libra in October. Actually Sun passes that point on the day I start my yoga massage course. Travelling again that day! :eek:



Funny thing is, I just listened to Russell Grant video horoscopes, and he said for today, not to travel as something will go wrong!


Thanks for the interpretations!
NR