View Full Version : Which house for a benefactor/sugar daddy?
03-19-2006, 10:24 PM
Hi! Weird question, haven't seen an example of it on any sites....Hope someone can clarify.
The chart is radical, despite the ASC is JUST past 3 degrees.
Moon in 10th(has to do with boosting public image), in Libra(a partnership, luxury, not emotionally based).
Do you think the potential benefactor should be given...
the 7H- It would be a partnership...but not for a specific business, no contracts.
the 5H- Would be with the goal of fun more than commitment.
11H- Friendship, beneficial assistance?
Either which way, Moon applies trine to 5HR, Mars in 7H, and the 11HR...I'm seeing a positive outcome.
The chart was created...
March 15th, 2006 @ 11:46pm
Tampa, FL 82w28 27n57
03-19-2006, 11:42 PM
Lets have a look at this. Your question concerns a relationship, so regardless of the nature and quality of the relationship, then the 'other person' is always 7th house.
I would never look to the 5th unless sex is of particular interest, the 5th cusp shows sex itself and does not represent the other person, just the sex. Even if you are inquiring about a brief casual fling, then the other person is always 7th house, the 5th the sex itself.
I wouldnt say 11th house, if you were askng about a club, community, political party, social gathering, or inquiring about groups of friends etc. then this is the 11th house. If you are singling out one individual inparticular in regards to any question, then that 'other person' is always 7th.
Wheter or not this individual will be able to meet your requirements for a sugar daddy will be discerned in the ways in which yours and his significators relate.
I would have a look at the chart, but I am unsure as to the exact nature of what it is that you are asking.
03-20-2006, 12:02 AM
Thank you Draco!
In answer to your question, the exact nature I'd like for it to be...Would
be a friends w/ benefits type thing...Best I can describe it! ...typically an older man w/ no time for a real relationship, sharing his resources(advice, lifestyle, & money).
I have Mars in Cap..blame that.. lol
I'll look back at it now too and report back. :)
03-20-2006, 12:08 AM
So this question is not concerning a person that you are currently in a relationship, but is about the type of relationship you are hoping to have or the kind of person you are hoping to meet? Is this what you are asking?
eg: 'Will I meet a sugar daddy who can look after me?''.
If you could summarise your question into a single sentence, how would you sum it up?
03-20-2006, 12:17 AM
How you phrased it was what I wanted to know!
Sorry I wasnt clearer before...
03-20-2006, 01:46 AM
Okay...I see 7H & me both moving away, both maybe a little unsure in Rx mode. He's got accidently dig., but Combust by Sun. I'm even in a weaker position, Jup is also conj. my Natal Saturn/SR Moon..wonder what that means...
This could a NO answer, but also below these by antiscion I found...
7HR 1 degree from Moon conjuncting.
7HR about to be trined by Venus - 1 degree.
ASC.R then conjuncted by Venus-
7H ruler is also 10HR- Turned end of matter?
8th HOUSE cusp antisc....Funny how accurate this is!
27-28 deg Gemini
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03-20-2006, 02:26 AM
Ha ha! Yes, I thought so I just needed to clarify so as not to wander up the garden path in interpretation.
So then, let's have a look at this:
As Sagittarius rises, you are Scorpionic Jupiter retrograde in the 12th. :( Jupiter has a small amount of potential as it is in its own face here, but retrgrade and in a terribly weak house, accidental dignity makes it quite powerless to act upon this small potential.
Jupiter is the principle of expansion and outer worldliness, so retrograde, you are shown as retreating, as if you are somehow inhibited, inexuberant. The 12th house, the house of confinement and isolation, along with Jupiter's retrogradation all suggest to me that somehow you aren't getting out there with enough expansiveness as would be required to hook your man. Your placement seems to suggest serious reservations, or inhibitions about your ability to make a big enough impact in the minds of your would be consorts, or maybe this is how you feel? In short this placement suggests lack of self confidence, and that you probably require a boost to your personal esteem before you meet Mr. Right.
I just say this because the placement describes you as watching and waiting silently in retreat, like a spider waiting to capture a fly in it's web.
The prospective partner/s is shown by the 7th cusp which is Gemini, and so the elusive Mr. Right is Mercury. Ouch! Mercury is in terrible condition, detriment, fall, retrograde, and if it couldn't get any worse, combust.
If this planets shows your hoped for sugar daddy, then this isn't good, as Mercury, patron of counting, buying and selling is ruler of money, and having such terrible essential debility and being retrograde, it seems more likely that your prospective partners will be people who spent more than they earn, perhaps in debt or spendthrifts, but this certainly does not convey the idea of a generous sugar daddy. If the potential partners described do not show people who struggle for money, then the sugar daddy in any case would be a bit of a miser, Mercury retrograde stops to pick up every penny.
Mercury is combust, and a combust planet is rendered invisible by the light of the Sun. This may indicate that seek as you might, the sugar daddy, unsatisfactory as he would prove to be, will remain illusive, but then, you are that spider waiting in the web, you must seek him, he will not come to you.
Both significators retrograde is not a good sign, both parties are too preoccupied with their own self interests.
It interests me that the Sun is the ruler of the 9th, so whatever it is that is keeping your sugar daddy from view would have something to do with this. The Sun ruling the 9th may indicate that he is invisible to you now because the intended resides in a foreign land.
Mercury is in the 4th house (daddy), and this gives it strong accidental dignity and so a lot of power to act, yet Mercury being so debilitated as it is, then this shows power to act in a derimental fashion. Just as well it i separating from Jupiter.
In the aspect, a water trine, Mercury in his retrogradation separates from Jupiter, making him ever more distant and elusive.
It is of interest to me in this chart that Saturn and Venus are in opposition, Saturn and Venus would symbolise the older man and the younger girl, yet they oppose one and other, and Venus separates, she is dissatisfied. Another poor indication.
Jupiter, your significator is in the sign of Mars' domicile and triplicity, so this would indicate what qualities that you are holding in high esteem in regards to a man. Mars is in Gemini in the 7th. Mars in Gemini would represent a man who works manually with his hands, with an ascerbic wit, a penetrating mind and who is good at initiating and winning arguments, mental sharpness and precision is his keynote. It would seem that what you are really seeking in a man is someone with whom you could experience mental stimulation, argue with, clash ideas with and compete with, while all the time being in love with, as Mars is in the 7th house.
We notice also, that Venus, symbol of feminine sexuality, applies a trine to this Mars, unlike old Saturn, whom she separates an opposition from.
What this says is that, your longing for a sugar daddy is unlikely to come to pass, you are better keeping your eyes peeled for the Mars in Gemini guy, a younger guy closer to your own age, who by his 7th house placement and receptivity to Venus' air trine, is the one who is meant to take you into his strong arms. This is who you should be looking for.
The sugar daddy so far is described as being unavailable, and not a good option anyway all things considered. Much better and more promising is the relationship of a man who is more your own equal (Mars in Gemini), and with whom you can find mental rather than financial stimulation with.
It is interesting that Mars is in Mercury's sign, bringing us back to Mercury retrograde - this may suggest the prospect of the lover who has money problems, but much better this than the little hope that is offered by the sugar daddy. I think that Mars shows your soulmate, your equal. Mercury retrograde will apply a square to Mars, so he will have finacial hardships, but this is the one meant for you, which is probably why the chart is saying forget about the sugar daddy.
Looking at the Moon it is conjunct the SN, telling you to turn back and reconsider what you have asked, it goes on to trine Venus, triggering your sexual instincts and then goes on to translate light from Venus to Mars, placing you in the arms of your true love.
This air trine across human signs shows intelligence, sensitivity and communication.
So in short, no, you will not meet this sugar daddy, all the indicatins for that are very poor, yet the indications for you to meet someone more your own age, and perhaps even with financial difficulties is what is intended for you, if only you'd see it. This is the person who will stimulate your mind and emotions, with whom you are sexually and spiritually compatible. This is your soul mate, but he isn't a sugar daddy.
I'm a bit tired and I'm not sure I've done too well with this, by tomorrow I'll probably disagree with my own interpretation, but this is what I came up with for the chart.
Hope it aroused your interest.
Post back with your thoughts.
03-20-2006, 02:29 AM
You sent your last post as I was typing.
Read that sabian again, in relation to the one represented by Mars who will have money problems, but who is the one for you.....
03-20-2006, 02:55 AM
Wow!!! I wasn't expecting you to put so much time into looking at it, thank you so much, how kind. :)
Yes this rings true, I would much rather have a real relationship!
Correct, I am not doing all I can, like a spider lurking.
I got burned up real bad by past crushes(either too distant or too clingly), these extremes make me VERY suspicious of love.
In fact I am interested in a man, who is a martial artist teacher & radio DJ/comedy writer. He's just getting over a divorce, so that could be the money problems. Tomorrow, which would be 5 days after the questions asked, is when he's calling to discuss a trip I was invite on..his daughter's BDay of all things.
He may also assist in future employment in media, or as a PA.
I have a date with a potential SD though, March 31st...This is showing he may back out last minute?
Hmm...The sabian would be Mars' turned 4H? :) Interesting....
I gotta look at it again!
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