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jamiescott
09-23-2008, 07:01 PM
This point keeps coming up lately in charts I do. Every person, with this a planet on this point has some fascination with Osama Bin Laden.

John McCain has Mars here. Barak Obama has Sun here. See link below to fixed star Kochab, 13Leo19.

The link to Osama Bin Laden is geographical: From Star-Names and Their Meaning (Allen) pages 451..452.

"Ursa Minor under the North Pole, which is called by another name Tramontane (i,e. because of one side of the Mons Coelius, whereon sits the Pole Star); ...frequent references are met with in early records to some mountain located in the North as the seat of the gods ....Sayce writes: In early Sumerian days the heaven was believed to on the peak of "the mountain of the world" in the far northeast, where the gods had their habitation (cf. Isai. xiv, 13) [the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north]....Von Herder....identified it with "the holy mountain of God" alluded to in the Book of the Prophet Ezekiel, xxviii, 14 and Professor Whitney quoted from the 62d verse of the 1st chapter of the Surya Siddhanta: the mountain which is the seat of the gods; and from the 34th verse of the 12th chapter: A collection of manifold jewels, a mountain of gold, is Meru,* passing through the middle of the earth-globe, and protruding on either side.
*Whatever geographical foundation there may be for this Meru probably lies in the Pamir, the Roof of the World, that has lately become of strategical importance in Asia."

Allen wrote this in 1963 from the work of Stechert in 1899. The Pamir is a mountain range bordering Afganistan, Pakistan, Russia and India.

http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Kochab.html

gesso
09-23-2008, 07:11 PM
thats a strange coincidence...
I have been researching this degree the last few days because its the 'activation'
point for my yod
In a few weeks the south node will conjunct it i believe

gesso
09-23-2008, 07:14 PM
Correction: nodal axis will be touching that degree Nov 2-13

jamiescott
09-23-2008, 07:18 PM
I first came across thi about 6 weeks ago doing a chart for a guy on the street who's been on methadone for 30 years, kept raving on about JC and Osama. When I found this link doing his chart, I had psychic connection. It physically knocked me out for about 12 hours. The next day on the news I heard they had tried bombing him but he had apparently just moved on.

freedomlover
09-23-2008, 07:24 PM
I don't know about fascinations with Bin Laden.... but I have been monitoring this degree for about a year now, noticing what comes up in my life as each planet crosses this degree. So, naturally this degree caught my eye.

I've also made the remark several times lately, "I've never had any interest in Presidential elections before. But, for some reason, I'm really interested in this one - between Obama and McCain"-( almost becoming a "fascination" with it.)

I guess your statement explains it:

John McCain has Mars here. Barak Obama has Sun here.
My natal Vertex is 13'33" Leo in 8th. The Sun rules my 8th, so maybe that's why I'm for Obama?:rolleyes:

LionKing
09-23-2008, 08:23 PM
Hmm nearly freaked me out I knew that I was close... but a degree off (thank God) I have Uranus 12Leo41. Ha! V/r LionKing

jamiescott
09-24-2008, 02:24 AM
Gesso, what do you mean "nodal axis will be touching". I'm interested to learn as this is when your election is.

skywatcher1221
09-24-2008, 02:54 AM
I have the Vertex here at 12 Leo 54. Saturn transiting this point by conjunction has resulted in the expected "fated encounter" (and consummation that followed) but it seems most significant in synastry. I can't say, however, that I have been fascinated by Bin Laden, no more than the average American at least.

gesso
09-24-2008, 04:28 AM
Gesso, what do you mean "nodal axis will be touching". I'm interested to learn as this is when your election is.

Right now the transiting south node is at 17 Leo and north node is opposite at 17 aqua....it moves backwards through the signs, so it will be at 13 Leo Nov 2-13
:)
heres a little link about the nodes http://www.astrologycom.com/nodes.html
I watch them closely in my chart, as they have proven to major timers for important life changes
(for example, south node conjunct my 8th house pluto, and my dad died at that time)

zootsuit
07-01-2011, 01:38 AM
I did a free Astrolabe online search of my birth chart, and it indicates that my Sun is in 13 degrees of Leo. I don't have any particular interest in Bin Laden or John McCain, but I do support Obama. It is probably obvious that I don't know much about astrology. Is there any significance for me personally because my Sun is in 13 degrees of Leo? Are the free online charts like the one from Astrolabe reliable? Thank you for your replies.

Lion o ness
07-01-2011, 01:50 AM
I dont have anything on 13 Leo.. But my Merc/Moon is at 14Leo my Sun at 16Leo...

Im not so much fascinated with Osama Bin Laden.. I do have strong opinions (as most people do)

I think the world has made him an icon for terrorists. Everyone knows him, and remembers him.. He will be in Us history books.. I think thats exactly what he wanted... He wanted to be known for the man that attacked the US.. He got his way...
That really bothers me, that he's getting what he wants.. He should be faceless/nameless.. Only yes I know its part of history and goes along with the story.. The sad thing is none of the victims will be in the history books.. Only a "number of people" will show.. The victims are faceless and nameless.. As he should be..
I do know there are to many victims to name... and thats horrible in its self..

positive
07-01-2011, 11:11 AM
according to vehlow it is the german axis ( when I am exact now.. but near this degree at least, maybe somebody knows?)