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DofS
09-19-2008, 06:44 PM
So, I've been reading about the houses and what not. And the 8th house is susposely have to do with sex. Unfortunately for me, last time I looked at my chart. There is no planet on the 8th house!! But there's Gemini in 8th house though.

Help please?

DOB:
City: Montreal
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Date: January 14th 1992

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 06:56 PM
Lets talk about sex baby :D , my partner has Gemini on 8th and he talks during sex (I may delete this later, way too much information :p lol) but you don't need planets to be in the 8th for sex, you have the ruler of 8th like you said, and planets like Venus which involves the sensual and romantic side of sex. And Mars for the passionate sex, and Pluto too (read Jeff Green's Pluto vol 2) I can't repeat the sexual stuff in there. And other planets can be involved. I think you bring all of you in bed not just the 8th house. I have no planets in the 8th and I have a sex life. :)

Night Sky
09-19-2008, 07:15 PM
What about 5th house?

There is a traditional vs. modern discussion to be had.:38:

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 07:31 PM
Hey Nightsky don't be starting the 5th/8th house sex debate, you know what trouble it causes on here :D . There is no point because the 8th house rules sex :p .

To be fair in Modern the 8th rules sex and if you study traditional the 5th house rules sex. Both have valid interpretations. :)

Night Sky
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
Hey Nightsky don't be starting the 5th/8th house sex debate, you know what trouble it causes on here :D . There is no point because the 8th house rules sex :p .

To be fair in Modern the 8th rules sex and if you study traditional the 5th house rules sex. Both have valid interpretations. :)

Looks like i was looking for trouble doesn't it.

Traditional works with a different mindset anyway. They didn't have sex in the olden days, they had marriage. :38:

aquarius7000
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
I agree with Ray, there's more to sex than just the eight house.:D

With the fifth house being the house of pleasures, sex here would be seen mainly as an act of pleasure (of course, sex should bring pleasure, but you do know what I mean;)), whereas, the eight house being connected with partnerships, sex here holds the meaning of what it is really all about.

Oh and btw, I have Jupiter in the eight..

:)aquarius7000

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 08:10 PM
With Jupiter in the 8th, you must have lots of sex! Only Joking :D . I should be more serious on sex threads. I agree the 8th house is the house of shared emotions connected with partnerships in a more intimate way than the 7th house of relationships, the 8th house represents the exposure of ourselves, this can mean being "naked" psychologically/emotionally. We show all our childhood baggage in this house.

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 08:12 PM
:) I have Neptune ruling my 8th. No jokes please :p .

aquarius7000
09-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Nah, can't make any jokes, as I am in the same (watery) boat myself:p. Got Nep on the eight, too. Now, now, do I hear a chuckle there.

:Daquarius7000

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 08:29 PM
Your just as confused about sex as me :D. What goes where again?? Nah just kidding. Deep down were really sensitive when it comes to sex, but isn't everybody. It's rarely an area you want to talk to people in depth about. No planets in the 8th can mean that it is not an area of focus, planets placed in other houses become more important in life. Unless of course other sexual aspects show some difficulty.

aquarius7000
09-19-2008, 08:41 PM
Right, with Nep ruling the eight, you could say that compassion and passion combine (eight being the Sco house); the latter more so, if there is a direct influence of Mars/Pluto there. Having said this, Nep's influence on the eight could also mean that sex is used as a way to 'escape' the harsh realities for eg.

However, I'd just like to mention here (for astrology beginners) that the eight house is much more than just sex.

:)aquarius7000

Shining Ray
09-19-2008, 10:18 PM
Your right the 8th isn't all about sex. Neptune in the 8th can be interpreted as sex addiction as you said a way to avoid the harsh realities of life. Hilter had Neptune in the 8th, as well as Marquis de sade (if data is correct).

Night Sky
09-19-2008, 10:41 PM
How about 8th ruler in a tight square with Neptune? Neptune rules 7th...

Ang
10-12-2008, 03:23 PM
I have Mars and Venus conjunct in an Aries 8th house (and Jupiter in the 5th). Sex bomb!

...actually, no. While I am pretty "sexual", I could do without the actual physical sex part, thank you.

BobZemco
10-12-2008, 05:00 PM
There is no planet on the 8th house!

The fact that a particular house has no planets means nothing.

Each house has a natal chart ruler plus 1 or 2 natural rulers.

In your case, you have Mercury ruling the 8th, plus Mars and Pluto. You want to find where they are in your natal chart and what aspects they make to other planets.

etoilestar
10-12-2008, 09:06 PM
I have no planets in my 8th

Melanie

nejispirit
10-13-2008, 02:31 AM
I have Mars and Venus conjunct in an Aries 8th house (and Jupiter in the 5th). Sex bomb!

...actually, no. While I am pretty "sexual", I could do without the actual physical sex part, thank you.

Heh, lucky for you- I have a Moon-Venus-Mercury Aries stellium in the 8th, as well as my Sun, Lilith, Eros, and many more asteroids; without sex, I feel rather incomplete.

siamese_dream
10-22-2008, 06:48 AM
You should also take asteroids into consideration (as nejispirit mentioned Lilith and Eros). I have no planets in the 8th house either. I have the asteroids Lust and Juno conjunct in the 8th house, and, well yeah...

You should also check out what Mars is doing, as this represents physical energy (sexual energy included).

The 5th house was mentioned, but this too!!

I cannot look at your chart right now, as I need my beauty sleep! But perhaps tomorrow. :)

astro.teacher
10-24-2008, 03:30 AM
Im suprised that the 7th House hasnt been mentioned with regards to sex, I mean it is the house of unions, the opposite sex, public enemies (which sometimes make good bedfellows), whores, chaste virgins, & etc. If that doesnt scream sex, then I dont know what does. I would defnately consider the 7th House with this regard. Furthermore I stand by my belief that sex is more defined by Venus than by any House. As for having no Planets in a house, that is no major issue since the Lord of the cusp of that House will define that House most more than a Planet being placed there.

nejispirit
10-24-2008, 04:46 AM
Im suprised that the 7th House hasnt been mentioned with regards to sex, I mean it is the house of unions, the opposite sex, public enemies (which sometimes make good bedfellows), whores, chaste virgins, & etc. If that doesnt scream sex, then I dont know what does. I would defnately consider the 7th House with this regard. Furthermore I stand by my belief that sex is more defined by Venus than by any House. As for having no Planets in a house, that is no major issue since the Lord of the cusp of that House will define that House most more than a Planet being placed there.
Sex doesn't necessarily mean that you have a "union" with someone- yes technically you are physically in a union with someone for a few seconds, a few minutes or perhaps longer- but after that, it doesn't mean that you are bound to that person in anyway; to me the 7th house is one of more serious "unions" or "partnerships", ie an important business partership or a long term marriage, not a quick/however long sexual "union" ;)

There is no one planet that is best coupled with sex as an act/concept, it all depends on what you view sex as- sure it can be associated with Venus for you, but what about those who do not equate love with sex and vice versa?

astro.teacher
10-24-2008, 06:59 AM
There is no one planet that is best coupled with sex as an act/concept, it all depends on what you view sex as- sure it can be associated with Venus for you, but what about those who do not equate love with sex and vice versa?

That is truely the beauty of Planets, the can go from one extreme into another. During a previous discussion I discussed this similar topic. Venus being dignified usually indicates one whose values concerning sex are based around venereal ideals (chastity, virginity, love & marriage), whereas Venus debilitated in a chart tend to produce individuals who disregard the connections between love and sex, sometimes indicating those who go over the top with its regards, to put it lightly, it may even indicate whores or simple people who enjoy sex with no strings attached. When Venus is found in the terms of Jupiter, love and sex take on religious natures, & etc. The mutability of a Planet and its associations is why I believe sex to be represented by Venus rather than any House (of which significations are more fixed).

nejispirit
10-24-2008, 07:14 AM
That is truely the beauty of Planets, the can go from one extreme into another. During a previous discussion I discussed this similar topic. Venus being dignified usually indicates one whose values concerning sex are based around venereal ideals (chastity, virginity, love & marriage), whereas Venus debilitated in a chart tend to produce individuals who disregard the connections between love and sex, sometimes indicating those who go over the top with its regards, to put it lightly, it may even indicate whores or simple people who enjoy sex with no strings attached. When Venus is found in the terms of Jupiter, love and sex take on religious natures, & etc. The mutability of a Planet and its associations is why I believe sex to be represented by Venus rather than any House (of which significations are more fixed).
I do know many individuals who are either engaged/about to be married or whom are exclusively dating one person who have a Venus in detriment/whatever you want to label that; I believe if you were to put a "dignified" Venus in an odd house perhaps close to let's say, Uranus, you might come up with something different ;).

For example, I know a girl with a Venus in Aries who is waiting for marriage to engage in sexual intercourse, so how would you explain that?

astro.teacher
10-24-2008, 07:56 AM
For example, I know a girl with a Venus in Aries who is waiting for marriage to engage in sexual intercourse, so how would you explain that?

Because there is a marriage element, the 7th House would have to be observed. If there is any Jupiter quality, the morals and beliefs of this individual can illustrate their willingness to wait for marriage. There are a variety of factors that can change (as I have said before) the meaning of the interpretation, I gave singular testimonies, remember its the multiple testimonies that provide the definitive answers. Also Venus in Aries does not make her complete debilitated, for she can still have a Term or Face in this sign. Not to mention, being found in the terms of Jupiter also helps with moral and religious beliefs (if this virginity is preserved for the sake of a religious or moral belief).

nejispirit
10-24-2008, 07:26 PM
Because there is a marriage element, the 7th House would have to be observed. If there is any Jupiter quality, the morals and beliefs of this individual can illustrate their willingness to wait for marriage. There are a variety of factors that can change (as I have said before) the meaning of the interpretation, I gave singular testimonies, remember its the multiple testimonies that provide the definitive answers. Also Venus in Aries does not make her complete debilitated, for she can still have a Term or Face in this sign. Not to mention, being found in the terms of Jupiter also helps with moral and religious beliefs (if this virginity is preserved for the sake of a religious or moral belief).

So now it has to do with the Houses and you said before that it can be narrowed down to just Venus? I'm very confused.

No, her Venus is not found in terms of Jupiter at all- and I do know that Venus in Aries isn't always a bad thing eh, I have it myself.

In fact, I don't think of it usually as being in "detriment"- it's just another sign coupled with another planet.

rogue_red
10-25-2008, 02:13 AM
I dont think sex can be limited to the eighth house. Although modern astrology denotes eighth house ruling sex, there is far more to the sexuality of a person that whats in the eighth house. I myself have nothing in seven or eight and yet sex is a hugely important aspect of my personality. Im going to be a little personal here so if you are easily offended then best you dont read on.
For me, I function best as a person when my sexual needs are being regularly attended to.:o I both need and enjoy it. In relationships, I need for sex to be frequent, synastic and satisfying. I was deeply in love with a man once and when we finally had sex I cried because it just wasnt 'right' and I knew that if I couldnt express my affection in a satisfactory way that I would begin to resent him and eventually it would destroy the relationship. So I broke up with him.
So you can see that the absence of planets in eight hasnt stifled my sexuality at all. The fifth house indicates pleasure and things you do for fun, Mars is an indicator for sexually energy and drive, Venus for love and pleasure and the moon for your emotional needs. Dont limit your interpretations to cut and dried house/planet situations. We are extremely complex individuals and as such many things determine our character.

nejispirit
10-25-2008, 08:08 PM
I dont think sex can be limited to the eighth house. Although modern astrology denotes eighth house ruling sex, there is far more to the sexuality of a person that whats in the eighth house. I myself have nothing in seven or eight and yet sex is a hugely important aspect of my personality. Im going to be a little personal here so if you are easily offended then best you dont read on.
For me, I function best as a person when my sexual needs are being regularly attended to.:o I both need and enjoy it. In relationships, I need for sex to be frequent, synastic and satisfying. I was deeply in love with a man once and when we finally had sex I cried because it just wasnt 'right' and I knew that if I couldnt express my affection in a satisfactory way that I would begin to resent him and eventually it would destroy the relationship. So I broke up with him.
So you can see that the absence of planets in eight hasnt stifled my sexuality at all. The fifth house indicates pleasure and things you do for fun, Mars is an indicator for sexually energy and drive, Venus for love and pleasure and the moon for your emotional needs. Dont limit your interpretations to cut and dried house/planet situations. We are extremely complex individuals and as such many things determine our character.

Of course the 8th house isn't the only indicator of a hot, steamy sex life, or just one in general- it's just the house that, in one of the many things it symbolizes, typically speaking "represents sex" ;);

You can look to the 5th for sex, to the 8th, and planetary aspects, signs in planets, and etc- also transits, progressions and what not, pretty much a whole bunch of things in Astrology can indicate sex :D.

My boyfriend has an empty 8th house but he sure does enjoy a good romping around :rolleyes:;):D- having an empty house doesn't mean that you don't have that at all in your life, I have an empty 5, 7 and 11 and I am creative/in a love affair, not sure about being married in the future/currently not in any business partnerships, and with the 11th obviously I have many friendships/hopes/wishes/dreams and I do, every once and a while, partake in [non-sexual] group activities ;).

Although the 5th house can indicate pleasure/fun/sexual activities, it all really depends on what is going on in the 5th house, planets, aspects, transits, progressions- what's around the 5th house, possibly directly across the 5th house (all those things I listed before)- and same goes with the 8th house ;).

In anything involving Astrology, people try to answer questions to everything under the sun and then some using the same "cut and dry house/planet situations"- this problem comes up time and time again, someone not liking the answer to something provided, a mere opinion mind you, and thus this.

It's alright, it's all just fun and games :D.