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Springup
03-12-2006, 11:16 PM
:D Hi

My mom can't find her jade and she is very bothered by it. She kept it in her bed room's closet and the jade was placed inside a little red pouch. The jade was a gift from my deceased great grandmother. It has great sentimental value.

Where the jade is and if it was being taken away, who took it?

Singapore, Singapore
13 March 2006
8.11am

Thanks!

Arian Maverick
03-13-2006, 02:13 AM
Here is the horary chart...hopefully, I did this correctly :roll:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8443/jadehorarychart2nq.png (http://imageshack.us)

Aquarian Maverick

fensi88
03-13-2006, 06:08 AM
Because ruler of 2H is in 11H look:
Near windows(Ruler of 2nd house in Aq), at meeting place in your home, friend may have seen it or put it someplace. Any work area in the nome.
DIRECTION: South by East (ruler in 11H)

Placement of POF in Virgo (16Vi17) indicate that jade maybe is:
where she study, in library, bookcases, closets, pantries, often not visible, in a pocket, drawer or cupboard (ruler in Vir).

Because POF is in 6H jade maybe is:
At work or someone at work may have it or have seen it or put it someplace. A pet may have dragged it away. Where you keep clothes, or in the linen closet. Often out of sight.
DIRECTION: Northwest

Because of applaying aspect of Moon and POF, or Moon and Ruler of ASC, she will find it but not so soon, for about 2,5 or 11 or 15 weeks!

Summery Joy
03-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Aquarian Maverick,
Yes, you did it correctly. Thank you for the time you put in this. I have a tip for you though. In charts of horaries of lost things, you might wanna add Pars Fortunae to the chart ;)

fensi,

You did a wonderful job as always, but who asked that question the first place, SG or her mom. Coz if it was SG, then maybe we should use the 2nd from the 10th. I don't know if I'm right, but i'll do that interpretation anyway so that SG has both.

SG,

If you were the one who asked the question, then you are signified by Mars in the 3rd house. I use MC as a ruler of mothers, so she's signified by Saturn Rx in the 5th house (her turned 8th). The jade is then ruled by the 2nd from the 10th (the 11th) in Aquarius which makes the significator the same as you mother's, Saturn Rx.

The Moon and Pars Fortunae are co-significators of the jade.

Venus is a co-significator of jewelry and gemstones.

The Moon is below the horizon showing that it hasn't been found yet, but the Sun is above the horizon showing good odds of finding it again.

Venus, as a natural benefic, is in the turned 2nd house. This is another argument for recovery.

Saturn Rx in the 8th house is an argument against recovery.

Turned ASC in an earth sign = South
Turned 2nd cusp in an air sign = West
Turned 4th cusp in a fire sign = East
Saturn is in a fire sign = East
Moon is in an earth sign = South
PF is in an earth sign = South



Saturn is in the 8th house = West South West
Moon is in the 9th house = South South West
PF is in the 9th house = South South West


Saturn Rx nearer to the turned DSC = West
Moon and PF are nearer to turned MC = South

Moon is less than 30 degrees away from turned ASC ruler (Saturn) shows that the jade might be at home or some where close to your mother.

Fire signs indicate places near heat or fire: near chimneys or radiators or where fires have been, near iron or the walls and partitions of a house.

Earth signs indicate places on the ground, under or near the pavement or floor, near mud or clay.

Fixed signs (Leo) indicate woods, parks, low places, near the earth, well hidden, or on level ground.

Mutable signs (Virgo) indicate places near water, the eaves of houses, covered places, closets, antechambers and rooms within rooms. The significator of the property in a common sign can also indicate that it is inside the home.

Humane signs (Virgo) indicate that the lost object will be found in a place frequented by people -such as the home or office, rather than outside in a secluded area.


Leo is specific shows Woods, parks, magnificent buildings and palaces, near the chimney or a source of heat.
Virgo is specific shows Studies, closets, storage areas, drawers, barns, dairy houses, places where corn or crops are processed & stored.

Virgo may also shows that the person who has to has last seen the jade may be someone from work, help around the house or a pet.

The 8th house may show that a partner or a thief has it.


Does you mom wear this jade somehow or just keeps it around the house? Because if she wears it, the jade maybe at work or at a partner’s or a best friend. If she keeps it around the house then it may have fallen in a corner where it cannot be seen, stolen by someone who helped around the house or been dragged away by a pet. Although the fact that your mom and the jade both have the same significator may show that it’s not too far from her.

The only significator that is casting an aspect is PF and it is mutually applying to its own dispositor, Mercury Rx. Although the opposition is not a smooth aspect, the mutual application is an argument for recovery. Maybe someone signified by Virgo found it (or took it) and will return it. The PF and Mercury Rx are 4-5 degrees away. Maybe that’s the number of days or weeks.

Also, Mercury Rx rules the turned 6th house in this chart, another pointer towards the same people signified by Virgo.


Hope you guys find the jade.

fensi88
03-13-2006, 01:12 PM
You did a wonderful job as always, but who asked that question the first place, SG or her mom.
You are right, we have to look 11H ruler, because jade belongs to her mother. Jade will be find for sure because ruler of turned 2nd house of mother(radical 11H) is retro planet, Sa rx.

Springup
03-14-2006, 03:01 PM
:D Thanks sorehearted and Goga!!

The question is asked by me. The jade was kept in my mom's bedroom in a wooden closet. The wooden closet has few compartments where one is for clothes, one where my mom kept her dairies and one is for her jewelleries.

I have a dog at home too. :) If my dad or brother open the drawer and the red pouch fell on the floor un-noticed, there is a high chance that my dog might have dragged it to his hiding place. I've searched the corners where my dog often hides his "treasures" but to no avail.

Sorehearted, my brother is a virgo and he works for my mom, could it be him who took it out and forgot to place it back?

For direction wise.. is where I am consider north?

I've told my mom that the jade will be found and she is very happy with the news. I'm keeping a look out on how the jade will be recovered and I'll post an update here.

Really appreciate of your help! And thank you both on behalf of my mom. Thanks!

Arian Maverick
03-14-2006, 03:28 PM
Aquarian Maverick,
Yes, you did it correctly. Thank you for the time you put in this. I have a tip for you though. In charts of horaries of lost things, you might wanna add Pars Fortunae to the chart

Ok, I'll try to remember :roll:

Aquarian Maverick

Springup
03-14-2006, 03:41 PM
:D Beth!!

Thank you so much for linking the chart for me!! Your kind gesture is so sweet! :D

Summery Joy
03-14-2006, 09:57 PM
Sorehearted, my brother is a virgo and he works for my mom, could it be him who took it out and forgot to place it back?

Maybe. Ask him :)

In order to check in the directions indicated by the horary, stand in the middle of the room where you suspect the jade is misplaced, figure out where North is and then go in the direction of your choice. I highly recomment south west.

Do you have a garden or a yard where your pet may have burried the jade?

Also, check under closets and rugs...

I think the Mercury Rx signifies finding the jdae suddenly or in an unexpected way.

Summery Joy
04-08-2006, 01:16 PM
Springup,

Was you mother’s jade found? I sure hope so, because I have recently come across some new information that says that this jade was stolen and will not be recovered.

Take a look:

The dispositor of the Moon and the ruler of the turned 2nd house (the radical 11th), Mercury Rx and Saturn Rx, do not separate from one another. This is the only argument against theft.

The dispositor of the Moon and the ruler of the turned 1st house (the radical 10th), Mercury Rx and Saturn Rx, are not conjunct. The jade may be far from your mother’s home.

The ruler of he turned 1st house, Saturn Rx, does not separate from Jupiter. It’s unlikely that your Mom has mislaid the jade and forgot about it.

Saturn Rx is the planetary hour ruler. It’s not near the turned 1st house. The jade is away from your Mom’s home.


The ruler of the 2nd, Saturn Rx separates from Venus. This is an argument for theft.
The dispositor of the Moon, Mercury Rx, separates from Jupiter Rx. This is another argument for theft.

The dispositor of the Moon is peregrine. Another argument for theft.

The thief is ruled by the turned 7th house (the radical 4th) in Cancer. The significator of the thief is the Moon itself.

PF is cadent and its dispositor is both peregrine and in essential and accidental debility. This may count as an argument for theft.


This jade was stolen!

No aspects between the Moon and the Significator of the jade. No recovery.
The planetary hour ruler is a natural malefic in Rx motion. No recovery.
The sign and term ruler of the Moon, Mercury, is in Rx motion. No recovery
The ruler of the turned 1st house is in detriment. No recovery.
The dispositor of the 2nd house ruler by sign, the Sun doesn’t apply to it. No recovery.
The turned 2nd house ruler is not in the 10th. No recovery.
No relationship between the turned 1st and 4th house rulers. No recovery.
The Sun is not in opposition to the Moon. The thief is not likely to be caught.
The Sun does not behold the turned ASC. No recovery.
The Moon is not in the 1st house. No recovery.
Both the Sun and the Moon are cadent and do not behold one another. No recovery.
The ruler of the 2nd house is in the 8th. No recovery. The jade is probably already sold by the thief.


Sorry :?