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What placements would one look for in a natal chart that would indicate an interest in astrology?
Uranus seems like the logical answer, but I've noticed a lot of people who are deeply interested in astrology don't have the typical Uranian influence that would be expected.
Would Neptune or water signs possibly be an indication?
Shimmy26
03-12-2006, 07:19 AM
I remember reading something about this not too long ago, but of course I have no memory of where (I don't even know if it was in a book or online!). What I have discovered though, is that when I was reading through posts on this forum awhile ago, everyone I came across around my age (16) had Aquarius rising. Sorry this is all I have to offer at this time - I'm still trying to find the answer to this question myself (although of course there won't be an exact answer - this is astrology we're talking about! :D
Arian Maverick
03-12-2006, 01:40 PM
What I have discovered though, is that when I was reading through posts on this forum awhile ago, everyone I came across around my age (16) had Aquarius rising.
That is so funny, Shimmy! Leave it to us Aquarians to discover the off-beat areas of life before our peers! :mrgreen:
I'm curious now...how many others around our age have you discovered? I know I've always felt like the baby of the forums :roll:
Aquarian Maverick
This is anecdotal and tangental (of course) but I have Aquarius rising and Uranus in the Ninth house. Comparatively, I'm not a great astrologer because I don't know the rules yet, but I do really really like it and always have.
I can remember being in first grade (7 years old) and "guessing" the month my classmates were born. My classmates gathered around me in a circle, and I would feel them out as individuals and try to find where their solar energy was. I was right about 80% of the time, and managed to gather a bit of attention I soon recognized I felt uncomfortable with: "How do you DO that? How do you know?"
I didn't know how I knew, just that I knew. ?!?!
I must have come here with this awareness, along with an ingrained fear of witchhunts and burning at the stake. Things got to be a little "weird" when I couldn't explain how I knew what month their birthday was, and I really started to panic and started intentionally giving wrong answers so I wouldn't be singled out as a freak in the first grade. The attention fizzed and they backed off, but I was left with a new realization about myself.
It's too bad, because I had to wait until my twenties to start to get into astrology and other fun stuff. I was forced to "be" Catholic until I was 18 and legally responsible for myself, but in the meantime, I was stuck listening to my Born-Again-Christian relatives tell me that all us crystal-weariing, astro-charting, Judas loving, tree huggers were all going to hell.
FOR CERTAIN.
Pagan/Cosmological and Satanic meant the same thing.
Pretty supportive, eh? I think this is why Uranus gets so wrathful.
Cool thread to start,by the way
Sita :wink:
I'm curious now...how many others around our age have you discovered? I know I've always felt like the baby of the forums :roll:
Ha, I believe I'm a bit younger than you :)
I can remember being in first grade (7 years old) and "guessing" the month my classmates were born. My classmates gathered around me in a circle, and I would feel them out as individuals and try to find where their solar energy was. I was right about 80% of the time, and managed to gather a bit of attention I soon recognized I felt uncomfortable with: "How do you DO that? How do you know?"
I didn't know how I knew, just that I knew. ?!?!
I must have come here with this awareness, along with an ingrained fear of witchhunts and burning at the stake. Things got to be a little "weird" when I couldn't explain how I knew what month their birthday was, and I really started to panic and started intentionally giving wrong answers so I wouldn't be singled out as a freak in the first grade. The attention fizzed and they backed off, but I was left with a new realization about myself.
It's too bad, because I had to wait until my twenties to start to get into astrology and other fun stuff. I was forced to "be" Catholic until I was 18 and legally responsible for myself, but in the meantime, I was stuck listening to my Born-Again-Christian relatives tell me that all us crystal-weariing, astro-charting, Judas loving, tree huggers were all going to hell.
FOR CERTAIN.
That's awesome, Sita. Perhaps you were an astrologer in a past life?
I can relate to the social pressure as well. I've always been attracted to astrology and the like, and it's difficult when you receive no support from those who are supposed to love you the most.
Could you guys post your natal chart for me, and do you feel that you were always interested in astrology? I ask this so we can differentiate between what was a natal influence and what was a transiting influence, or maybe a combination of both. Thanks :)
Sam, Hi.
I know there is a better way to post a chart, but here's a link for now.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&add=20&add=22&add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&add=23&sday=12&smon=3&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=8d3filegbpf9Z-u1132608114&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=
I bet there are websites out there that have done similar things with astrologers charts for you to look at also. Keep me posted on what you find. This should be fun!
Another tangent for you, hope that's ok with you:
I'm pretty sure I was a yogi of sorts in India. I think this is where I got the astrology stuff from. I was a woman. I have a few random past live memories of travelling to see people of wisdom who gave me tea and welcomed me in to stay and learn with them. I also have a dream memory of my death in that life, also. Very crazy. I saw a post mortem viewing of my body where my body was lying on the pyre on the Ganges (dead but still lingering nearby) and my two daughters were grieving the loss of me before the pyre was lit and to be sent away down the river. One daughter was completely distraught, and as she was wailing and sobbing and grieving my death, the power of her despair SUCKED me into her soul. She took me in and engulfed me. At that moment I became aware as HER, and as SHE was feeling. I woke up from that "dream" sobbing hysterically, as I was grieving my own death from my daughter's perspective. I somehow became her, and I'm not sure where my soul went after that.
Nutty.
Sita
Sam, Hi.
I know there is a better way to post a chart, but here's a link for now.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=19&add=20&add=22&add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&add=23&sday=12&smon=3&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=8d3filegbpf9Z-u1132608114&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=
I bet there are websites out there that have done similar things with astrologers charts for you to look at also. Keep me posted on what you find. This should be fun!
Another tangent for you, hope that's ok with you:
I'm pretty sure I was a yogi of sorts in India. I think this is where I got the astrology stuff from. I was a woman. I have a few random past live memories of travelling to see people of wisdom who gave me tea and welcomed me in to stay and learn with them. I also have a dream memory of my death in that life, also. Very crazy. I saw a post mortem viewing of my body where my body was lying on the pyre on the Ganges (dead but still lingering nearby) and my two daughters were grieving the loss of me before the pyre was lit and to be sent away down the river. One daughter was completely distraught, and as she was wailing and sobbing and grieving my death, the power of her despair SUCKED me into her soul. She took me in and engulfed me. At that moment I became aware as HER, and as SHE was feeling. I woke up from that "dream" sobbing hysterically, as I was grieving my own death from my daughter's perspective. I somehow became her, and I'm not sure where my soul went after that.
Nutty.
Sita
Whoa! That's pretty crazy. Did you feel anything when you saw your body, like sadness or anything? Were you in an altered state while you saw that like meditation or sleep?
Thank you for the chart. :D
Sam,
you're welcome, and thank YOU. :wink:
I dreamed that in a period of my life where I was consistently "on the ball," i.e: focused, clear, progressing and grounded. I was very well supported, and knew it.
When I saw my body, I felt satisfaction, pleasure at how beautiful and feminine I had appeared, and the sweet sadness involved in parting and leaving, but knowing. Dying was beautiful.
Sita
Arian Maverick
03-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Ha, I believe I'm a bit younger than you
I know, but I've been on the forums for quite some time now and it's hard to adjust one's thinking :wink:
Anyway, thank you for sharing your story, Sita! I believe I am able to understand your internal conflict because I am experiencing something of a similar nature; like you, I was born and raised Catholic, except my parents rarely attended mass themselves. Ironcially, I was the one who immersed myself back into the Church and feel virtually no pressure from my parents to continue to do so, yet I find myself mindlessly reciting prayers and murmuring the appropriate congressional responses week after week. I love the choral and youth group I belong to, and I do not wish to abandon them, yet I feel like a hypocrite sometimes :?
Aquarian Maverick
amelia
03-12-2006, 10:05 PM
Sam, Hi
I would like to add my point of view. I was born on 13th February 1966, 13.30pm. I started studying Astrology at the age of 13. My sun sign is Aquarius and my Ascendant is at 29o Gemini. Now, according to an interesting theoty by Nickolas Stojanovic, www.astrologyinserbia.com, the 29th degree of each sign indicates clairvoyance. I still think I'm an amateur in interpreting charts, but there have been many times that while watching at someone's chart (totally strangers to me) I mentioned facts about their lives I wouldn't know otherwise. I would really like to know if there is an explanation to this. :?
Amelia.
Sam, Hi
I would like to add my point of view. I was born on 13th February 1966, 13.30pm. I started studying Astrology at the age of 13. My sun sign is Aquarius and my Ascendant is at 29o Gemini. Now, according to an interesting theoty by Nickolas Stojanovic, www.astrologyinserbia.com, the 29th degree of each sign indicates clairvoyance. I still think I'm an amateur in interpreting charts, but there have been many times that while watching at someone's chart (totally strangers to me) I mentioned facts about their lives I wouldn't know otherwise. I would really like to know if there is an explanation to this. :?
Amelia.
That's cool! And thank you for sharing your insights. :)
Lunar Pisces
03-13-2006, 02:23 PM
Bob Marks said this in his forum a while back:
Uranus in aspect to the Mid-Heaven can make a good TECHNICAL astrologer. Neptune makes a good READER of charts. Mercury trine Uranus also seems to occur in the charts of astrologers. The late Charles Emerson told me that all of the charts of astrologers that he had seen (and he saw quite a few) had the hypothetical trans-Neptunian "planet" Haydes in some aspect to the Mid-Heaven (he counted the minor aspects here).
Bob Marks
The thread was here: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1578
Uranus does play a part in astrological interest, in not technical ability as Marks
suggests. One common aspect is Uranus trining MC - this is often found in asreologer's
charts. I have this aspect myself. Moreover in my case, I have a 1st house
Libra Uranus singelton. My mercury in conjunct my MC, so it trines my Uranus
as well. I consider myself a fairly good techincal astrologer, although I am a bit
of a renegade (perhaps that my Aqua Mars tringin my Uranus, as I don't follow
the rules by rote and definitely have my own opinions. I'm also largely self-taught.
I have Neptune (also a singelton) conjunct Jupiter in the 3rd which is considered
by some a highly psychic placement. Whether it makes my a good astrologer
I don't know, but it does make me very intuitive and empathic, attributes I do use
when I am doing astrology. I personally consider astrology an "intuitive science."
Sometimes the 8th house, Scorpio and Pluto indicate interest in astrology or the
occult. However, I haven't seen these linked specifically with doing astrology
rather than simply being attracted to it or believing. Transits and progressions
into Scorpio or the 8th are likewise often said to bring about a new or renewed
interest in occult matters. I personally have Pluto rising and Chiron and Pallas in
the 8th. Jupiter, which conjunct my Neptune singleton in Sag, is in Scorpio.
Scorpio also rules my 3rd, where this conjunction resides.
I had long been interested in astrology. It just sort of fascinated me. I didn't
realize I have a knack for it until I was in my 20s. I don't think there was any
reason I started that late other than I had not realized how indepth astrology
could be until the internet came about.
As I mentioned before, I am a Catholic. I personally have no issue with Christians
being interested in astrology. I think it's a tool, and like any tool it can be misapplied
and abused. I question predictive astrology, and don't use it, but as much out of
intellectual scepticism as religious objection. That asidesI know that Christians
and Jews had used astrology for centuries before the Enlightenment. Seeing
I disagree with several of the prevailing negative assumptions made of more
intuitive ways of thinking and investigating that are the symptom of Enlightmenment
rationalism gone awry, I see no reason why I should be patient with such narrow-minded
and ignorant attitudes. In short, some people think astrology is bogus, and others
think it's evil. I couldn't care less. I'll do whatever I choose to do. I'm VERY
Uranian in this way.
I have Uranus in Leo in the 6th house trine the MC and part of Grand Trine with Saturn in Sag, Moon/Mars in Aries.
I have Jup in 8 in the last degree of Virgo sextile the midheaven. What's most interesting to me is the experimental work I've been on lately. For instance, I have an opposition between Uranus in the sixth in 6 Leo 37 and Chiron in the twelfth 8 Aquarius 15. I decided to look at this opposition using a second harmonic chart. What this harmonic does is show oppositions as conjunctions.
Looking at the second harmonic chart, Uranus is now at 13 Sag 13 and Chiron is now at 16 Sag 30. I then calulated the midpoint which is Sabian 15 Sag which reads:
255__(15°)
GROUND-HOG, OUT OF ITS WINTER SLEEP, LOOKS FOR ITS SHADOW Revelation of basic life- purposes and cycles through omens. Universal patterning of life-relationship. Keen divination.
___*When positive, the degree is a natural talent for determining the proper course of action or reaction in any given issue, and when negative, lack of self-stability and ingrained timidity.
I've probably seen both sides of this but find it very helpful in getting the gist of the opposition. In this case, I think it shows not only my interest in astrology but a strong affinity to it.
Kite
Thanks!
Here's my chart if anyone's curious.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1578/achartmbwfileytcniou1120777276.gif
The only Uranian aspects of much influence I see is Uranus conjunct Sun, sorta, and Uranus square midheaven
wilsontc
03-14-2006, 05:49 AM
Sam,
You also have Aquarius (friends, also astrology) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 8th house (transformation, also occult), indicating you may have future goals of learning more about the occult side of astrology. In addition, you have a T-square focused on Pluto (transformation, also occult) between the nodes, further indicating the interest in the occult.
Occulting astrologically,
Tim
Interesting thread!
I have Uranus conjunct the North Node (can't get enough astrology) distantly square Saturn (8 deg.orb - a little technical in my approach) in the 11th house (internet, websites) and Scorpio (interested in research of little known patterns rather than interpreting people's charts).
Arian Maverick
03-14-2006, 11:55 AM
What a perfect chart for an astrology webmaster! :mrgreen:
Aquarian Maverick
I´m not a profesional astrologer but I have been drown to the occult since I was a little girl, always curious as my Moon in Gemini conjunct Asc reflects... Started studying Astrology by myself at the age of 11 (also some quiromancy, numerology and tarot ... self taught ... is somthing quite uranian...
Also played a lot with EPS and medium games, ok I have scorpio ruling my 5th house (Ceres also in Scorpio in the 5th) But Astrology fits much more with me, so I continued buying books and teaching myself.
Aquarius rules my 8th house cusp (occult) and it placed in the 5th house (hobbies) is actually aspecting my 10th house ruler, mars but I´m not pursuing and astological career right now. I always say that I may and would love to study professionaly astrology and do interpretations when I´m older, maybe retired (Jupiter which is dispositor of Uranus is in Scorpio in the 4th house, .... the last planet in my 4th house (very late in life) also it´s close to the 5th house cusp and conjunct pluto ruler of 5th house.
Another aspect they told me could provide pyschic ability would be my heavy aspected neptune conjucnt dark moon in the 6th opposed to my ASC at 29º (claryvoiance) Gemini conjunct 28º 54´ moon (next to be clarivoyant , haha kidding). My moon works in the 12th trines Pluto and Jupiter in scorpio in the 4th.
My chart ruler, Mercury is in the 11th house, I read in a old astrology book that mercury in the 11th would be found in a lot of astrologer (obvoiusly with a lot of other aspects that support that idea) My mercury is conjunct chiron, .. an it´s the apex of a yod formed with a neptune-lilith-pluto sextile.
What else?.... mmm I´m thinking.. I guess that´s all... What do you think?
Frisiangal
03-14-2006, 02:33 PM
Hi,
What would the traditional astrologer(s) here, who don't recognize the influence of the outer planets, reply to this question? Astrology was a craft based upon the original 7. Would it be something to find under Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, the 9th or 11th houses ?
I was brought up with modern astrology but it's interesting that my 9th house Mercury is semi-square Saturn in Gemini, and 9th house Sun is square Jupiter. Anyone else have astrological configurations'in their charts without using the modern planets?
I was born with Aquarius on 6th house cusp, Uranus conjunct Gemini M.C, and an 11th house N.Node in Cancer. A continuing journey ? :)
F.
Mary, our Moon is on the same degree of Gemini. I am 28'18" Gemini, with a Jupiter conjunction at 0, 1' Cancer. Fifth house, though. Do we have anything else in common?
Sita
Hey you guys, I happened to stumble on a list of some fixed stars and their meaning. Some of them indicate interest in the occult.
http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html
Turns out, my Mars in Scoprio is on the same degree as is the fixed star Bungula. Bungula's interpretation is, "Occult and philosophical learning, self analysis, honours, stubborn, cruel"
Thought this might be of some interest :)
Arian Maverick
03-18-2006, 04:12 AM
Thanks for the link, sam!
The best indicator of astrological interest from this list would probably be my North Node one degree away from Deneb Adige, whose keywords include: intelligent, creative, original, naive, astrology, writing, the public, dog bites
I hope I can escape that last one! :wink:
Beth
Thanks for the link, sam!
The best indicator of astrological interest from this list would probably be my North Node one degree away from Deneb Adige, whose keywords include: intelligent, creative, original, naive, astrology, writing, the public, dog bites
I hope I can escape that last one! :wink:
Beth
Haha, dog bites. How did they get so specific? :lol:
Shimmy26
03-18-2006, 10:25 PM
Menken - Wisdom, astronomy, divination, medicine, botany and music 12° Scorpio 18
This is in the same area of astrology, I suppose, with astronomy and divination. Oh, and this is conjunct my Pluto in the 8th house at 12° Scorpio 33.
Hey! I just found one exactly conjunct my south node, to the minute! - Alphard * Sudden death by poison or drowning. Problems with law, love affairs, drugs 27° Leo 08
Could this possibly relate to a death in a previous life? Hopefully not in this life....... :|
So I'm sticking with my Aquarius rising and Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th to explain my interest in astrology. :wink:
Arian Maverick
03-18-2006, 10:46 PM
So I'm sticking with my Aquarius rising and Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th to explain my interest in astrology
That sounds good to me! I no longer have an Aquarius Ascendant, but I share your exact Pluto placement--Pluto in Scorpio in the eighth house :twisted:
Arian Maverick
Draco
03-18-2006, 11:45 PM
Hi,
Don't shoot the messenger here but I think that I would consider Mercury as appropriate ruler of astrology and astrologers rather than Uranus.
I found this quote from 'The Real Astrology', by John Frawley, worth consideration.
P65
Complementary to this is the idea that these new planets rule things that had no existence prior to thier discovery. So Uranus rules television and computers. It requires the finest splitting of hairs to claim that these things are essentially different from anything that existed before: both these examples would be ascribed to Mercury in the traditional model, in his capacity as ruler of calculation and communication. What else a television or computer might be other than a box for performing these functions is not clear.
Which leads on to the point:
P67
As part of this desire for titillation, astrology itself has been given to rulership of Uranus (astrology presumably not having existed before 1781), a planet which has developed a reputation for amiable eccentricity. In the tradition, astrology was ruled by Mercury. Where once astrologers saw themselves as thinkers, they now style themselves as eccentrics. This may well fit in well with the desiderata of the New Age, but is not necessarily an improvement.
This is a fair point. Mercury is the appropriate ruler of astrology and astrologers, for astrology is about calculation, interpretation and communication. It surprises me that Mercury has been absolutely overlooked here in favour of Uranus, and doesn't even get a mention as co-ruler of astrology and astrologer's and yet the association should be obvious.
Draco :(
I found this quote from 'The Real Astrology'
This is the fourth time I've seen a reference to that book in the past two days! I stumbled across the author's website last night after looking for more information on horary, then I saw it referenced on Skyscript, and then someone mentioned it on another forum! Creepy... :|
Complementary to this is the idea that these new planets rule things that had no existence prior to thier discovery. So Uranus rules television and computers. It requires the finest splitting of hairs to claim that these things are essentially different from anything that existed before: both these examples would be ascribed to Mercury in the traditional model, in his capacity as ruler of calculation and communication. What else a television or computer might be other than a box for performing these functions is not clear.
Which leads on to the point:
P67
As part of this desire for titillation, astrology itself has been given to rulership of Uranus (astrology presumably not having existed before 1781), a planet which has developed a reputation for amiable eccentricity. In the tradition, astrology was ruled by Mercury. Where once astrologers saw themselves as thinkers, they now style themselves as eccentrics. This may well fit in well with the desiderata of the New Age, but is not necessarily an improvement.
This is a fair point. Mercury is the appropriate ruler of astrology and astrologers, for astrology is about calculation, interpretation and communication. It surprises me that Mercury has been absolutely overlooked here in favour of Uranus, and doesn't even get a mention as co-ruler of astrology and astrologer's and yet the association should be obvious.
Draco :(
Yeah, I came across something similar not too long ago about Mercury being the traiditional ruler of astrology, but then again astrology used to be part of a typical intellectual study.
Considering the common view on astrology today, there isn't a lot of exposure to any real horoscopic astrology. There's the astrology section in newspapers and such, but as far as the complex art that it once was, it's practically unknown. That leads me to think that in order for someone to look behind the common view, s/he would have to have a strong Uranian influence. That's just how I see it, though.
Draco
03-19-2006, 12:13 AM
Hi Sam,
This is the fourth time I've seen a reference to that book in the past two days!
The powers that be are obviously prompting you to buy that book!
I know what you mean. Never the less, astrology it is still Mercurial in it's nature: inquisitive, investigative, calculative and concerning knowledge, thought and idea.
For me, Mercury, first and foremost, was, is and always will be the planet of astrology and astrologers.
Draco :wink:
Hi Sam,
This is the fourth time I've seen a reference to that book in the past two days!
The powers that be are obviously prompting you to buy that book!
Heh, apparently. :P
I know what you mean. Never the less, astrology it is still Mercurial in it's nature: inquisitive, investigative, calculative and concerning knowledge, thought and idea.
For me, Mercury, first and foremost, was, is and always will be the planet of astrology and astrologers.
Draco :wink:
Yeah, that makes sense, too. What Mercury placements would be looked for?
wilsontc
03-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Draco,
You said:
Don't shoot the messenger here but I think that I would consider Mercury as appropriate ruler of astrology and astrologers rather than Uranus. I found this quote from 'The Real Astrology' , by John FrawleyComplementary to this is the idea that these new planets rule things that had no existence prior to thier discovery...astrology itself has been given to rulership of Uranus (astrology presumably not having existed before 1781), a planet which has developed a reputation for amiable eccentricity. In the tradition, astrology was ruled by Mercury. Where once astrologers saw themselves as thinkers, they now style themselves as eccentrics......astrology it is still Mercurial in it's nature: inquisitive, investigative, calculative and concerning knowledge, thought and idea. For me, Mercury, first and foremost, was, is and always will be the planet of astrology and astrologers.
Not for the purpose of shooting the messenger, but for the purpose of extending this discussion, let's take another look at Mercury energy and what it has to do with astrology. Mercury energy is about the energy of details, symbolically it is the early stage in our life where we are gathering the details around us and trying to put them in context: we have just become aware of our "physical" nature (2nd house), are not quite sure "where we are" (not yet in the 4th house of home), and are putting together a list of "things" we have and are associated with (3rd house, ruled by Mercury). So Mercury by itself can get absorbed in the details of things, but does not put those details into a valuable social context. Mercury is about "Social Learning", learning the basics of social things without knowing yet how to apply them.
Now consider Uranus and 11th house. 11th house is about "Social Security", understanding how we fit into a social context and figuring out what we are going to do about it. Unlike 3rd house, 11th house is very FAR along our personal development (there is only one house after the 11th house, the 12th house, before we complete the cycle of houses, symbolic of our life development). Also 11th house (ruled by Uranus) has to do with "other people's self-expression, so 11th house is the area where we focus on other people and helping them find a social context in life. This is MORE than just loading up on social details, this is helping people to USE those social details to become more "settled" with who they are.
Unlike John Frawley, I believe in an EVOLUTION of sign rulerships, that things which USED to be ruled by one planet can now be ruled by a DIFFERENT planet due to our evolution in "planetary energy consciousness" (such as when Uranus took over rulership of Aquarius from Saturn (ancient ruler of Aquarius) ). As we become more used to using and developing Uranian energy in ourselves and around us (an ability which will grow during the Aquarian age we are in (Uranus rules Aquarius) ), we become more used to using the FULL extent of Uranian energy, not just its immature "rebellion" at everything, but also its ability to energize those around us for their betterment.
As evidence of this, look at the growing inter-relation of astrology and the computer (all ruled by Uranus, according to the theory I have been proposing). Computers and astrology, while at one-time only distantly related have been coming closer and closer together, to the point that many modern astrologers couldn't imagine being an astrologer without a computer - particularly in having access to the Internet. And computers have freed us from needing to go through all the details simply to do astrology. Now the computer handles the details and we handle the interpretation. While some people have said this creates a "dumbing down" of astrology, to me it creates a greater accessibility to astrology: while charting can a complex, difficult business, being able to push a few buttons on the computer and create a chart eliminates the "data" focus and creates the possibility of a "person" focus.
Also, with the decrease of focus on getting the "details", there is an increase in the number of people who can now do astrology and help others. Thanks to the Internet and astrology software, MANY people can now get their feet wet in astrology, offering their thoughts and ideas, sharing their life learnings with others, and work to help out complete strangers. While some astrologers would not regard these people as "real" astrologers, since they don't have astrological "clients" in the traditional sense, to me they are VERY MUCH astrologers, because they are using their time and effort to try to help develop other's social security and understand their "place" in the world.
And, to me, that is what astrology, ruled by Uranus, is all about! ;)
Uranistically,
Tim
starsong
03-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Hi everyone, new recruit here.
I just wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly with everything wilsontc said in his last post.
I've been interested in astrology for as long as I can remember (and that is a LONG time!) Until the last few months I've been unable to progress satisfactorily past beginner stage, for various reasons. I invested in some astrology software which has made all the difference to my studies. Whilst I suspect that I'll never be a "proper" astrologer, and will probably never know the joys of drawing up a chart with pencil, paper and ephemeris, I can now see so much . With the aid of information freely and voluminously available on the internet - how can any inspired newbie fail to learn?
With regard to the original point of this thread, I 'm not sure there needs to be a "ruler" of astrology. Many different configurations might steer an individual towards studying the subject, I suppose. From what I've picked up by reading around various forums it seems that Scorpio, 8th house, Uranus, and strong Mercury all figure somewhere in the picture.
My own indicators might be: Uranus conjunct South Node 11th house (Taurus)with North node in Scorpio, Aquarius Sun in 8th house, Pluto in 1st house and Mars at 28.54 Scorpio. Someone mentioned fixed star Bungula earlier I think, and that's conjunct my Mars too.
Perhaps I qualify - but if not, I'll continue studying anyway.... :wink:
Frisiangal
03-19-2006, 06:28 PM
Never the less, astrology it is still Mercurial in it's nature: inquisitive, investigative, calculative and concerning knowledge, thought and idea.
For me, Mercury, first and foremost, was, is and always will be the planet of astrology and astrologers.
Draco :wink:[/quote]
And not forgetting that Mercury is ruler of Virgo! Astrology is all about reading symbolism and making A+B=C. :wink: :wink:
F.
I'm terribly sorry for resurrecting this thread again, but I've stumbled upon something else! :P
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
This page lists "Part of Astrology" (Ascendant + Uranus - Mercury) as one of its options and I calculated mine and it's 1 degree away from my Jupiter, indicating interest and learning (Jupiter) about astrology.
Arian Maverick
04-16-2006, 02:38 AM
I'm terribly sorry for resurrecting this thread again, but I've stumbled upon something else!
Great timing...it's Easter Vigil! :P
Arian Maverick
I'm terribly sorry for resurrecting this thread again, but I've stumbled upon something else!
Great timing...it's Easter Vigil! :P
Arian Maverick
Haha! :wink:
Draco
05-01-2006, 03:57 AM
Hi all,
And not forgetting that Mercury is ruler of Virgo! Astrology is all about reading symbolism and making A+B=C.
Indeed, Virgo is the acquisition of data, the techniques, the charts, methodical analysis, and all the practical rudiments of erecting a chart. Gemini is the thought, idea, symbolism, imagination, interpretative and communicative side. Both are Mercurial influences.
Not that I see Mercury as exclusively ruling over astrology by any means, but I find it suprising that s/he is almost totally overlooked, given that astrolgical study (Gemini) and practice (Virgo) depends upon such Mercurial activity.
Draco :wink:
Sorry for resurrecting this post but I was asking this question in another post and it is interesting reading it. I have always pretty much been interested in astrology as far as I can remember. I remember a friend of mine told me that I was a Capricorn when I was 4 years old (my friend was 4 as well) but I later discovered the next year that I was an Aquarian (she was born on 19 Jan and me on 23). Since, then I have flirted with astrology but have never truly dived into it.
I am also going to answer a question that I asked on another post (asking whether I should take up astrology professionally despite my what I feel lack of knowledge) and say that my interest in astrology comes from Aqu sun and mercury that are conjunct (10th house) and that are being squared by Uranus in Scorp (in 7th). Therefore, maybe I might be half decent as an astrologer (after a lot of reading/training).
I have noticed that I am thoroughly interested in people's natal charts and their relationships rather than other forms of astrology. Must have something to do with the 7th house Uranus.
Lioness725
06-13-2006, 03:46 AM
I have read some things about Neptune in the third house and Pluto in the first house as a possible indicator. Basically because of interest in deeper things, always wanting to unravel mysteries, knowing there is so much unexplained things in life....ect. I have both these placements, that is why I know about them. I can't tell you about apsects I haven't read about.
Shining Ray
08-29-2006, 09:51 PM
I was recently looking at my sister's chart, I hadn't really looked at it because we have never been close as sister's. I was quite surprised she had Uranus in the 3rd trine the Moon and her Mercury conjunct Uranus. I have in my chart Uranus in the 3rd trine Moon/Mercury conjunction. I always thought of these as my interest in Astrology aspects but my sister has similar placements and is not interested in Astrology.
I think the difference must be the strong Neptune in my chart. With my Jupiter in Leo 11th house. I have my Uranus in the 3rd house 7 degrees away conjunct I.C oppose M.C. My uranus is in Scorpio and hers is in Sagittarius. My Uranus is staitionary in 3rd not too sure if hers is. :p
Plus she only has one planet in water and 6 in fire she has a stellium of 5 planets in the 3rd house (she is never off the phone, doesn't talk to me though,) the only planet above the horizon is her Moon in 7th. I would say she is more for friends than family. I don't mean her boyfriend and two kids. But siblings and my mum although she speaks to my mum all the time on the phone but doesn't really visit. Not that I can talk my stellium is in the 7th I spend all my time concerning my relationship and baby. It is interesting with us both having Uranus in 3rd and not being close as siblings. I can see how different we are in our charts.
My sister only has two little squares but I suppose 3 personal planets conjunct Uranus must mean something. I am compelled to read her whole chart now. I only got my siblings birth data to compare careers in the chart. (and yes my sister has worked in sales with her massive stellium in 3rd).
Sibling Rivalry hey :D
Shining Ray
My partner has no interest in astrology, despite having saturn, part of fortune and mars in the 8th - must be the leo influence on it that detracts. He also has Ura, Moon, SN in Sco/11th but that doesn't really turn him on astrology. He has an intercepted 6th house-12th house - probably causes his disbelief.
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