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angelina
03-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Well. We had major unexpected correspondences back and forth this week which opened up alot of feelings.

I asked What Happens Next with Us? (Will this eventually lead to a stronger relationship or just weaken the bond? Will he flee or stay?)

I note that as Cancer I am the Moon and he is Saturn. The two are closely conjunct with Saturn (but shaky) as retrograde but moving to the moon. Before however, it looks like The moon will oppose Venus first (sorry the trine to the NN just happened maybe that's why the conversation seemed beneficial and fated). Venus in Aqua 8th House trines Mars in Gemini. The moon also trines Mars and will mvoe to a perfect trine. The last lunar aspect will be a trine to Pluto in the 6th!?(weird). What does that mean?

If there any good news here at all?

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Summery Joy
03-12-2006, 12:36 PM
We had major unexpected correspondences back and forth this week

Isn't this soooo Mercury Rx :)

OK. Angelina,

This is not a yes or not question, so it is quite difficult to answer. I will try to help though.

Yes, normally you would be signified by the Moon and him by Satrun. But the fact that Moon perfects an aspect with Venus before it does with Saturn cannot be considered frustration (or whatever it’s called) because what you are asking about is what’s next, not if you’ll become his girlfriend of something.

The fact that your significator is the Moon will make things easier for me actually. Alright. We can do this in two ways; 1) we see the next aspect of the Moon and track the houses and issues it signifies in this chart and we can use natural significators of the matter. Let’s do both.

First of all, the Moon is at Leo 3:56 in the 2nd house. It is received by the Sun by sign and triplicity. The Sun is the natural significator of Men in general and happens to be the ruler of the 2nd house in this chart. It is also received by Saturn by term and face. Saturn is the natural significator of restriction and old, unkind men and happens to be the significator of the 7th house in this chart. Although the fact that Saturn receives the Moon, the reception is of minor effect and doesn’t mean much concerning the guy’s affection. Also, the Moon is tinted by the detriment of Saturn (Leo).

The Moon has no essential dignity and thus is essential peregrine. However, it has some accidental dignity by being in the 2nd house.

The Moon is on the same degree as the North Node. I don’t know how to interpret that, but I’ve seen in many horaries that it’s not the best sign. Appart5 from that, the Moon is casting an opposition to Venus. This is the first aspect that the Moon will apply in this sign. The last one was a trine with Mercury Rx when it was still in Cancer. Mercury is the natural significator of communication and rules the 4th and 12th houses in this chart. This suggests that what you were last doing before the sudden communication between you to was basically stay home and feel bad. I don’t know if I’m correct here though because I don’t know if we should consider the last aspect of the Moon if it was in a different sign.

However, we MUST consider the next aspect which is that opposition. First let’s study Venus. Venus is the natural significator of love, commitment and young women. In this chart, it happens to rule the 11th house which is him if you consider him to be a friends, or the turned 5th from the 7th if you consider him to be a prospect boyfriend, or the 7th from the 5th if you consider him to be someone you’ve had fun dating but never took seriously. Whichever way, Venus has a lot to say.

Venus is at Aquarius 4:27 in the 8th house. It is at its own face, so it has some minor essential dignity. It is also received by Saturn by sign, triplicity and term. Now, if we consider the 7th house to signify the guy, this placement will show tremendous selfishness on his part. Also, this would mean that your significator is in his 8th house and his in yours. The 8th house is not a very good place and these placements may signify co-dependant relationship were both of you are in for the wrong reasons.

But if we ignore this chart significators and use natural ones, the Moon will signify you and the question. Venus love and also you, and Mars him. There is an applying trine between Venus and Mars, but it’s too wide for horary orbs to consider. Also, the Moon will not be able to translate the light from Venus to Mars because it will bump into Saturn Rx first.

OK. I think I’m just confusing you instead of helping. I’ll just tell you what I think. I believe that you are interested in a love relationship, but he simply enjoys the one you have now. You have more romantic feelings for him than he does for you because he is distracted by other issue on his mind. And even if he notices your interest and figures, “why not?”. But he will not be as into it as you will be. I guess what I’m saying is, it’s not a good time for him and if things develop with you guys, there’s a great chance you will get hurt unless he manages to get over his issues and move on.

I’m so sorry. I hope I’m wrong.

angelina
03-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks a bunch. Do you think it makes a difference that we are both separated from others but still married?

Not sure if that changes a thing and some of what you said really resonates like this:

He simply enjoys the one you have now. You have more romantic feelings for him than he does for you because he is distracted by other issue on his mind. ... it’s not a good time for him and if things develop with you guys, there’s a great chance you will get hurt unless he manages to get over his issues and move on.

That sort of it in a nutshell

Summery Joy
03-13-2006, 09:36 AM
Yeah, pretty much.

I didn't know you were married to him. Now that this piece of information is available, I think that the Rx motion of Saturn may signify him considering getting back together with you.

But since the Moon perfects an aspect with Venus (the ruler of your 11th house and his 5th) before it perfects one with Saturn, I think you will be the one to stop the relationship from moving forward because of new information from a friend of yours or an ex non-serious lover of his. Did he have an affair?

angelina
03-13-2006, 02:29 PM
Thanks sorehearted. I am ridiculous. No. He and I are definitely not married, intense very long time friends! We are married to other people and we are both separated from those people.

Summery Joy
03-13-2006, 02:36 PM
Thanks sorehearted. I am ridiculous. No. He and I are definitely not married, intense very long time friends! We are married to other people and we are both separated from those people.

Oh. Heh. Sorry. My bad.

Well, it still doesn't change my initial interpretation.